Does Kawhi deserve a 5 yr max extension

[Gino-Step]

I say yes. He is better than Gordon Hayward, Kyrie Irving, Tyreke Evans type dudes.

[hoopdreams11]

I think Paul George got the max

[Gino-Step]

Kawhi is a better defender and shooter and way better at rebounding and posting up vs. Paul George who is a better athlete.

[Richie]

He should get our 5 year extension, but maybe just under the max.

If the max is $78m/5yr (Harden deal), I'd like to see if we could get Kawhi for $65m/5yr

[Dex]

When the coach starts calling you the "future face of the franchise", then you start to expect max extension money. Kawhi may not quite be on the same superstar tier as Durant and James, but he could certainly get that money elsewhere.

That being said, this franchise is known for being financially conscious, and has a line of Hall of Famers that have set the example of taking less money for the team. Hopefully, Kawhi buys into that and follows the example. Otherwise, if the Spurs have to spend max money to keep him...I still think he is worth it.

Kawhi could be the difference from this team continuing to be a perennial playoff team, or becoming a cellar dweller for a rebuild bid.

[Gino-Step]

Melo is about to get 130 over 5. I'd say Kawhi is easily worth 80. With Tiago making 9 a year, there's no chance Kawhi makes less than 15/per.

I say you offer him the max. Slightly lower to include an opt out and tell him to figure out a lower number for himself if he chooses to.

Kawhi will be making more per year than Manu or Tony ever made.

[KawhiLeonard]

5year/60 millions is fair

[cjw]

Melo is about to get 130 over 5. I'd say Kawhi is easily worth 80. With Tiago making 9 a year, there's no chance Kawhi makes less than 15/per.

I say you offer him the max. Slightly lower to include an opt out and tell him to figure out a lower number for himself if he chooses to.

Kawhi will be making more per year than Manu or Tony ever made.

There's no chance he makes more than $15mm a year either unless the cap goes above $60mm. 25% of cap unless he makes two all NBA teams, starts two ASG Ss or is MVP. They'll offer him the 5 year extension (won't pull a TWolves with Love) and probably in the $12-$13 range (around what Richie above said and Tony's current deal). Love got the opt out and look where it left them...

[Nathan89]

5year/60 millions is fair

This is what he needs to accept in order for the Spurs to have some potential of building a solid team.

[Chinook]

Giving Leonard a max deal really won't hurt the cap much. But if he gets the Rose max, that would be too expensive.

[SpursIndonesia]

70 mil/5 years sounds good.

[apalisoc_9]

70 mil/5 years sounds good.

this..

Anything over that is overpaying IMO.

[Russ]

Lakers must be salivating. Riverside kid to save their bacon and no one else on the horizon.

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Not max but maybe like 65 or 70% of max.

[crc21209]

Gotta lock him up. He's the real deal on both sides of the court, humble as well, which is very hard to find in the league nowadays..

[SpurSwag]

60 over 5 would be such a bargain tbh...

if we can somehow get him to make only ~10 M a year annually though we are set for the future. The problem with that though is he saw Tiago get 9 M a year and he probably thinks that he should definitely be making more than Tiago. He's not wrong at all and absolutely deserves a fat contract, but it'd be great if he could go easy on us lol

[Baam]

Max players are offensive beasts, this thread is so stupid, it's like people can't wait to become Denver...

[Baam]

60 over 5 would be such a bargain tbh...

if we can somehow get him to make only ~10 M a year annually though we are set for the future. The problem with that though is he saw Tiago get 9 M a year and he probably thinks that he should definitely be making more than Tiago. He's not wrong at all and absolutely deserves a fat contract, but it'd be great if he could go easy on us lol

That's a great point, the Tiago extension fucked the salary scale for the near future tbh... That's one of the not so obvious tribute they paid for continuity...

[cd021]

No way. 5 years, 60 million would be ideal ($12 million per) at most 5 years, 70 million (14 million per)

[cd021]

That's a great point, the Tiago extension fucked the salary scale for the near future tbh... That's one of the not so obvious tribute they paid for continuity...

His contract actually descends, so I'm not sure how it messes up the cap.

[SpurSwag]

His contract actually descends, so I'm not sure how it messes up the cap.

It messes it up not so much in terms of its actual impact on the cap itself, but on the implications it has. Kawhi clearly has more potential and is a better player, and just saw a big man on his team who can't even stay on the court in certain matchups get paid about 9 million a year annually. You don't think Kawhi saw that and thought shit if he got 9 M i better be getting at least an 8 figure salary? He definitely deserves it, but Tiago's contract kind of set the bar for what Kawhi should get.

[Seventyniner]

His contract actually descends, so I'm not sure how it messes up the cap.

It helps with the cap because the Spurs are well over the cap this season and will be well over it next season. By the time the Spurs potentially get significant cap space (summer of 2015), Tiago's salary will be $8.5M. If it were an increasing contract with max raises it would have been about $9.3M in year 3 (the structure would be roughly $8.09/$8.7/$9.3/$9.91). So about a $800k savings.

[Chinook]

It messes it up not so much in terms of its actual impact on the cap itself, but on the implications it has. Kawhi clearly has more potential and is a better player, and just saw a big man on his team who can't even stay on the court in certain matchups get paid about 9 million a year annually. You don't think Kawhi saw that and thought shit if he got 9 M i better be getting at least an 8 figure salary? He definitely deserves it, but Tiago's contract kind of set the bar for what Kawhi should get.

Not really. Tiago got paid about average money for a starting center. He's actually still a good deal, but we'll leave that for another thread. Splitter making $9 Million is like Leonard making $7 Million. Leonard making $11-12 Million would be like Splitter making $14-15 Million. Look at the best teams and see how many of them have no bigs among their highest salary players. Outside OKC, I can't think of any who don't have one in the top two.

[TD 21]

I suspect what he get's is partially dependent on the number they have in mind for Parker, who's been underpaid on his current contract (and has mentioned that he was willing to take below market value because he believed Pop would take care of him), which means he'll probably be overpaid on his next one. I say that because I can't imagine them paying him more than Parker.

That said, $12-14M is the likely range. Whether is skews to the lower or higher end of that is largely irrelevant though, considering the Spurs' clean cap sheet going forward.

[cd021]

It messes it up not so much in terms of its actual impact on the cap itself, but on the implications it has. Kawhi clearly has more potential and is a better player, and just saw a big man on his team who can't even stay on the court in certain matchups get paid about 9 million a year annually. You don't think Kawhi saw that and thought shit if he got 9 M i better be getting at least an 8 figure salary? He definitely deserves it, but Tiago's contract kind of set the bar for what Kawhi should get.


I don't agree with that at all. Different situations. Splitter is an accomplished big man with years of pro (international) experience. He got an extension that was market value (Portland was reportedly interested in him). Leonard is certainly going to have a bigger payday anyway so I'm not sure why Splitter getting 4 year, $36 million matters to him.

Leonard certainly has more potential at the moment both have similar value to the team. Splitter provides rim protection and rebounding (especially important when Duncan is off the floor and when he eventually retires). Leonard's perimeter defense, rebounding along with efficient scoring.

Big men with talent get payed north of $10 million.

There are 57 players currently making $10,000,000+

Centers-19 (33%)

Small Forwards-13 (22%)

It would be like wide receiver looking at a running backs contract and asking for similar cash.

Leonard should, at the very least, get $12 million a season. I'd peg his next deal at 5 years, $60-70 million (12-14 million annually)

[SpurSwag]

Not really. Tiago got paid about average money for a starting center. He's actually still a good deal, but we'll leave that for another thread. Splitter making $9 Million is like Leonard making $7 Million. Leonard making $11-12 Million would be like Splitter making $14-15 Million. Look at the best teams and see how many of them have no bigs among their highest salary players. Outside OKC, I can't think of any who don't have one in the top two.

I was thinking that while making my post actually that Tiago's value as a center may be higher than Kawhi's as a wing man, but i realized that's not something players probably care about. Maybe Kawhi is different, but all I know is that if I was in that situation all I'd be thinking is I'm better than Tiago, so I should get more money and as many years. Hopefully I'm wrong though, because you're definitely right that centers' contracts are naturally inflated by the lack of good centers in the league.

In a perfect world tiago would be like 7 M and Kawhi like 9, but oh well

[SpurSwag]

I don't agree with that at all. Different situations. Splitter is an accomplished big man with years of pro (international) experience. He got an extension that was market value (Portland was reportedly interested in him). Leonard is certainly going to have a bigger payday anyway so I'm not sure why Splitter getting 4 year, $36 million matters to him.

Leonard certainly has more potential at the moment both have similar value to the team. Splitter provides rim protection and rebounding (especially important when Duncan is off the floor and when he eventually retires). Leonard's perimeter defense, rebounding along with efficient scoring.

Big men with talent get payed north of $10 million.

There are 57 players currently making $10,000,000+

Centers-19 (33%)

Small Forwards-13 (22%)

It would be like wide receiver looking at a running backs contract and asking for similar cash.

Leonard should, at the very least, get $12 million a season. I'd peg his next deal at 5 years, $60-70 million (12-14 million annually)

Yeah you're right, like i just said hopefully you guys are right.

[TheyCallMePro]

Kawhi still isn't the 'go to guy' that Paul George and Lebron are. Right now he's still mostly a role player, which Lebron and Paul George certainly are not. Furthermore, he's not in the same class athletically as those two. Isn't his vertical jump like one of the lowest on the Spurs?

He had a great game guys...but the Spurs haven't paid anyone the max for a long, long time. And for a reason. The Spurs system relies on having quality role players (Green, Diaw, Belli,) to run it, and you have to be able to pay those guys as well.

I think we should wait on Kawhi. If we make a deep run in the playoffs this year, and Kawhi plays great throughout like he did tonight, then fine, give him a max extension this summer. But if not, then just wait until he's a restricted free agent next year and you have more time to evaluate whether he deserves that kind of money.

[Dverde]

Not right now. 10m per year seems right. Barring no crazy playoff numbers

[Chinook]

I was thinking that while making my post actually that Tiago's value as a center may be higher than Kawhi's as a wing man, but i realized that's not something players probably care about. Maybe Kawhi is different, but all I know is that if I was in that situation all I'd be thinking is I'm better than Tiago, so I should get more money and as many years. Hopefully I'm wrong though, because you're definitely right that centers' contracts are naturally inflated by the lack of good centers in the league.

In a perfect world tiago would be like 7 M and Kawhi like 9, but oh well

Oh hell no. Kawhi is worth eight figures easy. If you think the Spurs are assuming he's going to get less than Splitter got, then I can understand why you posted what you did. But there's no way Leonard doesn't get at least $10 Million a year, and that has nothing to do with Splitter. Kawhi is going to chase money during his second contract. Every player who can does.

And the Spurs can still build around him if he takes a max offer. He and Spltter would only count for $24 Million of the $65 Million or so salary cap. If Leonard takes $12 Million a year, the Spurs would be able to have him and Splitter, re-sign Parker, Diaw and Green (and a guard like Joseph, Mills or Beli) have some rookies come over from Europe, sign a $3 Million bench player, AND add an eight-figure borderline-star player.

[testies]

It messes it up not so much in terms of its actual impact on the cap itself, but on the implications it has. Kawhi clearly has more potential and is a better player, and just saw a big man on his team who can't even stay on the court in certain matchups get paid about 9 million a year annually. You don't think Kawhi saw that and thought shit if he got 9 M i better be getting at least an 8 figure salary? He definitely deserves it, but Tiago's contract kind of set the bar for what Kawhi should get.

oh shut up..

[Mel_13]

The Splitter salary is absolutely irrelevant to the amount that Kawhi will get in an extension or a second contract. His agent isn't going to compare him to a center on the Spurs. He's going to compare him to SFs around the NBA. Batum got 4yrs/46M. Kawhi will get more than that.

[spurs10]

It's a given he gets a 5 year extension. Really happy for him...:toast

[Spursfanfromafar]

Kawhi should and will get the 5 yr extension, but I also suspect he could be persuaded to leave a bit on the table in order to let the Spurs to contend.

[SpurSwag]

Oh hell no. Kawhi is worth eight figures easy. If you think the Spurs are assuming he's going to get less than Splitter got, then I can understand why you posted what you did. But there's no way Leonard doesn't get at least $10 Million a year, and that has nothing to do with Splitter. Kawhi is going to chase money during his second contract. Every player who can does.

And the Spurs can still build around him if he takes a max offer. He and Spltter would only count for $24 Million of the $65 Million or so salary cap. If Leonard takes $12 Million a year, the Spurs would be able to have him and Splitter, re-sign Parker, Diaw and Green (and a guard like Joseph, Mills or Beli) have some rookies come over from Europe, sign a $3 Million bench player, AND add an eight-figure borderline-star player.

all good points, thats why i said that 12 M would be a bargain and what i'm realistically expecting him to get. I just said the 7 M and 9 M numbers cuz that would be in a perfect world because as much as I love kawhi i'm still not entirely sold on his ability to actually be a 20 ppg scorer. I know he's shown it at times, especially recently, but i just don't know. His shot has been really great lately which helps but he can be streaky with it, if he gets that to be as consistent as it is now though he'll easily be worth max contract

[xellos88330]

If he can start getting to the rim in the half court he is worth max money. Right now I would say probably around 14m a year would be good.

[Kabals]

So far he doesn't deserve one.

He is playing great but max contract are for player like Durant, James, Duncan ... superstar. If he get one only based on potential then that is a bad contract.

Now if his agent do a great job, he can probably can get the max somewhere but I doubt the Spurs would give it, that would kill their chance of getting a title.

[FkLA]

Most players during the Duncan era that have been re-signed have at one point or another been underpaid.

5 years/~50 mill would be ideal for Kawhi tbh.

[spurraider21]

Most players during the Duncan era that have been re-signed have at one point or another been underpaid.

5 years/~50 mill would be ideal for Kawhi tbh.
Splitter got 9 mil/year. Kawhi will get more than 10 imo. by the time his rookie deal expires, tim and manu will likely be retired

[apalisoc_9]

Do the spurs have to match offers?

I don't really understand contracts tbh, but I\m guessing if they have to match, they will have to match a highs salary

I can see some desperate team offering a 80 million contract for five years

[spurraider21]

Do the spurs have to match offers?

I don't really understand contracts tbh, but I\m guessing if they have to match, they will have to match a highs salary

I can see some desperate team offering a 80 million contract for five years
i'm not even sure he'd be eligible for that much, but as a restricted free agent, any team could sign him to an offer sheet, and the spurs have the right to match it (it's what happened with roy hibbert when Portland tried to sign him).

iirc it was somewhere in the 4 year 60 million range

[FkLA]

Splitter got 9 mil/year. Kawhi will get more than 10 imo. by the time his rookie deal expires, tim and manu will likely be retired

Yeah, but he's a bigman and he's 29. Pretty sure his initial two year(?) contract when he came over was a bargain too.

There's a lot more example of players being underpaid. The Big 3 themselves have been ridiculously underpaid at one point or another. Green, Diaw, Barry to a lesser extent, etc.

[spurraider21]

Kawhi is younger than Splitter, so the age 29 thing isn't really helping your case. In fact, Leonard is worth more since he is:

a) already the better player
b) unlike Splitter during his free agency, he has room to improve his game

Kawhi would easily get an offer sheet from another team worth a lot of money, certainly more than Splitter's annual salary

[FkLA]

Kawhi is younger than Splitter, so the age 29 thing isn't really helping your case. In fact, Leonard is worth more since he is:

a) already the better player
b) unlike Splitter during his free agency, he has room to improve his game

Kawhi would easily get an offer sheet from another team worth a lot of money, certainly more than Splitter's annual salary

The point was that the Spurs can always take care of Kawhi later on, like they have with Manu/plan to(?) with Tony, not that Splitter is worth more because he's older.

Can't the Spurs extend him before he becomes a free agent like they have with Tony ?

[spurraider21]

The point was that the Spurs can always take care of Kawhi later on, like they have with Manu/plan to(?) with Tony, not that Splitter is worth more because he's older.

Can't the Spurs extend him before he becomes a free agent like they have with Tony ?
they sure can. i would think its fair to compensate him. the "take care of you later" thing could be sold if you were doing it in order to keep a championship roster together with a franchise rock like Tim Duncan in place. but Kawhi is a guy that has had knee problems early in his career. he'd want to be taken care of now, and rightfully so.

i think kawhi would agree to an extension at the right price, but he'd be a fool to accept a lowball offer considering what he'd be receiving on the open market. i'm not trying to sell kawhi as a guy that's just after the money, but you have to look at it realistically

[Mugen]

5yr/60mil for Leonard would be a solid deal for both parties tbh.

[FkLA]

they sure can. i would think its fair to compensate him. the "take care of you later" thing could be sold if you were doing it in order to keep a championship roster together with a franchise rock like Tim Duncan in place. but Kawhi is a guy that has had knee problems early in his career. he'd want to be taken care of now, and rightfully so.

i think kawhi would agree to an extension at the right price, but he'd be a fool to accept a lowball offer considering what he'd be receiving on the open market. i'm not trying to sell kawhi as a guy that's just after the money, but you have to look at it realistically

He'd get more in the open market no doubt. Tony would've too if he had tested the waters. I'd just like to think Kawhi is a good soldier that wants to continue winning and gives the Spurs that discount we've become accustomed to. Besides it's not like 5 years/~50 mill isn't enough to be set for life. :lol

Manu's first contract after his rookie one was 6 years/48 mill if I'm not mistaken.

[spurraider21]

He'd get more in the open market no doubt. Tony would've too if he had tested the waters. I'd just like to think Kawhi is a good soldier that wants to continue winning and gives the Spurs that discount we've become accustomed to. Besides it's not like 5 years/~50 mill isn't enough to be set for life. :lol

Manu's first contract after his rookie one was 6 years/48 mill if I'm not mistaken.
they signed Tony when has value was lowest and we still had george hill iirc

[venitian navigator]

In these kind of contracts, probably an important role is decided by taxes...for what I red texas is a good place to play (and, for example, canada is not) because of the limited taxes. So a ten million dollars per year offer made by us could be equal or better, for example, of a 11/12 million offer per year made by another team...

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Kawhi has the highest winning % of any player in the league over the past 3 seasons. That in itself is quite impressive and tells you how valuable you are to your team.

I don't think Max deal, but a 5 year 60-65mil is around the ball park the Spurs will be paying. His next contract, assuming he get better and sustains his level of play, will definitely be more.

[look_at_g_shred]

Of course he does. 5 years $60 mill and the face of the franchise sounds good to me.

[Drom John]

Kawhi Leonard of the Spurs may be the Jason Heyward of the Braves.
The tendonitis and hand have hurt Leonard cumulative value and the hand, appendicitis and jaw hurt Heyward.
Both Heyward and the Braves wanted to sign a longterm contract this offseason, but Heyward wanted to be paid for his potential, the Braves considered playing time to be a projectable stat.

I'd expect a Heyward like medium per/year relative to Leonard's draft class two-year contract with maybe a player option the second year.

[DesignatedT]

12/yr seems like a fair contract. If he wants 14 then you have to give it to him but 12 would be a fair #.

[wildchild]

In these kind of contracts, probably an important role is decided by taxes...for what I red texas is a good place to play (and, for example, canada is not) because of the limited taxes. So a ten million dollars per year offer made by us could be equal or better, for example, of a 11/12 million offer per year made by another team...

Agree. One of the many reasons behind Dwight Howard's choice.

Rare and valuable skills, Leonard is able to impact the game both on offense and defense. Maybe his offense isn't nearly as elite as his defense right now but it's still dangerous, he has proved that last games being a prolific and versatile scorer.

In a league where two-way players are more en vogue than ever, a young and legit two-way player like Leonard can be of tremendous value for a team.

[Baam]

Kawhi has the highest winning % of any player in the league over the past 3 seasons. That in itself is quite impressive and tells you how valuable you are to your team.

I don't think Max deal, but a 5 year 60-65mil is around the ball park the Spurs will be paying. His next contract, assuming he get better and sustains his level of play, will definitely be more.

Who knows, potential has a shelf life...

Also he has missed a lot of games due to injury... Steph Curry got 11M x 4 years...

It's safe to say he's getting north of 10M and yeah Splitter's contract does matter whether some like it or not...

But I don't think he's getting a lot above 10M, 11M seems fair given the injury concern... Anything above 12M would be meh...

[DesignatedT]

Not really an injury concern at all tbh. Getting jumpers knee is pretty common among players and that has fully gone away after a couple months rest this Summer. Breaking a bone in your hand could happen to anyone and probably has if you have played enough basketball in your life. Curry rolls his ankle three times a year.

[r0drig0lac]

if you pay less than 63/5 will be a steal for the Spurs

[Chinook]

Kawhi's not taking less money just so the Spurs have more cap space. Players just don't do that coming off second contracts. It just doesn't happen outside small hometown discounts for mid-tier players like Green. Anyone who thinks former Spurs players did that during their second contract completely misremembers the team's history.

[TheyCallMePro]

Good point on Parker. He expects to be taken care of this summer with a multi-year extension. And a lot of Spurs fans just don't understand how much $$ that's going to entail. He's a superstar PG, only 31, and he's been underpaid his entire career while scrubs like John Wall are getting 5 years/80 million.

Parker is going to get PAIIIIID. Think 4 years/60 million. And he deserves it. He's only been the best PG for the last decade plus.

As for Kawhi, I agree, only superstars get max contracts. Kawhi is not close to a superstar. He'll get something like 5 years/64 million though, and if he won't take that, then he's an idiot.

[Mel_13]

Good point on Parker. He expects to be taken care of this summer with a multi-year extension. And a lot of Spurs fans just don't understand how much $$ that's going to entail. He's a superstar PG, only 31, and he's been underpaid his entire career while scrubs like John Wall are getting 5 years/80 million.

Parker is going to get PAIIIIID. Think 4 years/60 million. And he deserves it. He's only been the best PG for the last decade plus.

As for Kawhi, I agree, only superstars get max contracts. Kawhi is not close to a superstar. He'll get something like 5 years/64 million though, and if he won't take that, then he's an idiot.

That's not true at all. You named John Wall. Rudy Gay is another. There are plenty more.

5/64 is probably a good guess for where is he is now, but Kawhi has performed better in the playoffs than the regular season so far in his career. If he raises his level of play in another deep playoff run, he may be able to get even more.

btw, I don't believe TP gets anything close to that. He'll be 33 with 14 years of year round play on his body when that extension would kick in. He may get close to that annual salary, but more likely for two years rather than four.

[007nites]

5year/60 millions is fair

Sounds good to me.

Year 1: 6mil
Year 2: 8mil
Year 3: 12mil
Year 4: 16mil
Year 5: 18mil

[spurraider21]

I doubt Parker gets that much. Pay him for his age 31-35 seasons. You aren't paying him for previous years. If you think otherwise ask yourselves why teams don't pay retired superstars base on past performance

[Mel_13]

Sounds good to me.

Year 1: 6mil
Year 2: 8mil
Year 3: 12mil
Year 4: 16mil
Year 5: 18mil

That sort of structure is not possible. The maximum raise from year to year is 5.5%.

[Chinook]

That's not true at all. You named John Wall. Rudy Gay is another. There are plenty more.

5/64 is probably a good guess for where is he is now, but Kawhi has performed better in the playoffs than the regular season so far in his career. If he raises his level of play in another deep playoff run, he may be able to get even more.

btw, I don't believe TP gets anything close to that. He'll be 33 with 14 years of year round play on his body when that extension would kick in. He may get close to that annual salary, but more likely for two years rather than four.

I don't think he realizes that there are multiple levels of max contracts and that Kawhi's max would be about $7Million less per year than say Lebron.

Also, it should be noted that Parker will likely not get longer than a three-year contract/extension since he'd be under the over-36 restriction if he had a longer deal than that.

[lurker23]

So, here's some interesting new data on this subject, buried within a Nate Silver article at FiveThirtyEight.com:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/when-to-sign-an-nba-player-to-the-max/

It's a long article, but the table in question is about 3/4s of the way down:

http://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/silver-datalab-draftmax-table21.png?w=305&h=803

Based on his regression analysis, players 95th percentile or above deserve max contracts, while those in the 94th percentile or below don't (statistically speaking).

My two major takeaways are this:

1. Kawhi's performance is just as good statistically as it is passing the eye test (something that several others have pointed out at various times this year), and
2. This data supports the idea that he deserves a very good extension, but not a max one.

[Baam]

The way Pop talks about him he will make a point to give him the max, it's almost uncomfortable to listen to Pop talking about his amazing body...

[Old School 44]

Kawhi will get max money if he wants it. He doesn't need to average 20 pts per game, but I do think he's capable. How many guys in this league can defensively go toe-to-toe with forwards James, Durant, Aldridge, George, Anthony, Nowitzki and still have the versatility to guard a Westbrook, Wade, Lillard, Harden, Curry, Paul, Irving, Wall? Not many.

Make no mistake Kawhi will get whatever he wants.