Is The Lord A Good Law Maker?

[Koolaid_Man]

He created the sun, moon, rain, stars, and mountains....he gave us the 10 Commandments...sadly mankind has perverted his word to make us believe slaves should be beholden to the slave owners...in such a case it was only to keep balance and order...


his ways are higher than ours..never forget...ok Rogue :lol

[Katherine Robinson]

Did you give the rundown of your portfolio to Alan, Capri? The investors at Brevan Howard want to prepare for our visit to the Islands.

[Rogue]

Are we (meaning white males, no other race/gender really matters) just completely fucked? When in college, we are supposed to work our ass off to get that good job correct? Now once we do we either end up being a) doctor b) lawyer c) banker d) engineer or e) w/e DD is doing but it's another job where you travel a lot/make great $$$$. And a lot of these jobs we are sacrificing our health, time, etc just to make good shekels and provide for the family

but once we get that good job, provide for our family we have fuck ups like

a) JT
b) black people

that come in and try to cuck us since we're away for so long and they have nothing better to do. Then it's "lolzzzz you work too much, you're a horrible father, lose half of everything and your kids loser!!!!!!1"

but when we settle for the lesser paying job we're losers who can't provide for the family. Or, we can just say fuck it, and not make a family but the n!ggers/beaners win in the end because we aren't re-populating.

Is there a solution to any of this?

[Rogue]

sorry to you religious people but I don't believe there ever existed a "Lord", and even if he really existed at one time who created all these things, I'm inclined to say that he's just as bad a law maker as Obama is a policy maker tbh, because there have been so many injustices and unfairnesses in this world...

first of all, we don't get rewarded fairly for our efforts. Some people spent great deals of time and money on education, receiving extensive schooling, but in the end of day found themselves stuck in shitty jobs where no hope could be seen (like my nigga Jacob). While some others who barely finished high school are making handsome money without working much (if at all, you know the examples), so they have considerable spare time to spend posting on the internet preaching their false ideologies to our generation of young dudes.

On a national/international level, we're being punished for our violation of natural rules. We allowed the Japs to possess nuclear materials for "peaceful" uses, only to hit ourselves hard in the back when a tsunami leaked out the radiative materials into the Pacific Ocean whose impacts extended to as far as the western coast. Meanwhile, terrorism has infiltrated from Afghanistan/Pakistan well into the US mainland, as terrorist attacks are frequently taking place at domestic levels (most recently the pennsylvania knife crime conducted by a highschool student which caused 30+ injuries, not to mention the boston marathon bombing, sandy hook shooting etc...). Last but not least, the Globe is getting outrageously warm, summers are hot as hell and even make your shoes melt, not to say air pollution which may cause 4-5 foggy days each week.

If the Lord is punishing us for our greed, laziness, or our original sin, then is it safe to say the terrorists are the Lord's missionaries who're getting the job done for Lord in our world (assuming that Lord can't make no direct impact on us). Then the terrors are representatives of him on the earth, and we're fighting the terrorists on the global scale treating them like rats, which further enraged the Lord and made him punish us even harder?

[Rogue]

you forgot to make a Poll, Jesus Kool...

[Rogue]

been thinking about this question all afternoon and just came up with one thought... the Lord might be a good lawmaker, he chose the right orbit for earth so our planet is neither too far away from nor too close to the Sun, which makes life possible. And everything is running smoothly in the pre-historical era, the Sun rises and sets, water clear air fresh... but he clearly lacks the power to enforce his laws on the earth that's why terrorists can do us harm and get away with their crimes. the Lord is like a MacDaddy who created babies (us humans) but refused to take the responsibility of raising us. We're all God's kids, illegitimate kids though...

[Koolaid_Man]

you forgot to make a Poll, Jesus Kool...

just lie to your professor about the poll dude...I had so much shit going on I forgot...

[Koolaid_Man]

If we're talking Physical Laws consider that the earth wobbles a great deal in it orbit. The eccentricity of the Earth's orbit is such that over the course of a year our distance from the sun varies by about four million miles, which is about 3%....any closer we all burn in hell any further away we all freeze to death....it's a perfect law

[Koolaid_Man]

tell your professor that kool said:

Accept jesus into your life let him lead and direct it

1) accept that you are a sinner and that you need jesus in your life

2) accept the fact that jesus died on the cross for your sins

3)accept the fact that on the third day he rose again

4) acknowledge that he is who he says he is....

if you do all this you will enter the kingdom of paradise which he created for all his followers. choose to accept this free gift while it's still free


only the fool in his heart says there is no god

[The Reckoning]

neil de grasse himself said the main reason why god probably doesn't exist is because he's a terrible law maker lol

[Koolaid_Man]

neil de grasse himself said the main reason why god probably doesn't exist is because he's a terrible law maker lol

he's just upset that he has big lips and nappy hair :downspin:

[Rogue]

excellent take, Jesus Kool. The physical law is perfectly made that's why there exist life on the earth to begin with, it's always the humans themselves that are hard to control because they're too smart (because their ancestors stole and ate the fruit from the tree of wisdom. We don't need no laws for animals because they all abide by their norms, but humans are so smart they always behave beyond what they should do and even though in our world humans have made laws to restrict their behaviors, there're still millions of people infringing/breaking the laws.

Greed is the source of all evils imho. Animals also have greed but fortunate to the earth they don't have such power to unleash their desire to such an extent where the ecosystem could be endangered, but humans do have such greed and such power. The tornadoes/earthquakes etc... can be seen as punishments on us for our improper activities, our excessive abuse of the nature, yet we never learn. We're still abusing the earth as well as our own lives and at the end of day humans will go extinct not because of comet/asteroid hitting the earth but our own "smartness" and greed, imho.

[Sybok]

If we're talking Physical Laws consider that the earth wobbles a great deal in it orbit. The eccentricity of the Earth's orbit is such that over the course of a year our distance from the sun varies by about four million miles, which is about 3%....any closer we all burn in hell any further away we all freeze to death....it's a perfect law

Yes of course... post hoc ergo propter hoc. Oh look, there's mold on the shower curtain... the curtain was made for mold to live there because it supports the mold by being near water, and in a warm environment. All hail great shower curtain god.

[Leetonidas]

You realize that our of the entire earth, a small percentage of that is actually nice and habitable for humans? Yep, totally a "perfect" creation

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You realize that our of the entire earth, a small percentage of that is actually nice and habitable for humans? Yep, totally a "perfect" creation

Yeah seriously anyone who considers earth or the human race "perfect" has a pretty strange definition of that word.

[The Reckoning]

we evolved to the earth. it certainly didn't evolve to us. we're basically really intelligent coyote primates imo.

[Koolaid_Man]

If I'm not mistaken the Bible says that god saw all his works and noticed they were good. it didn't say perfect..which indicates he was tinkering around with things trying to see what works like a scientist. That god didn't snap his fingers and everything into existence shows that he values hard work.

I'm really helping you out here Rogie...you should get an A in class

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

If I'm not mistaken the Bible says that god saw all his works and noticed they were good. it didn't say perfect..which indicates he was tinkering around with things trying to see what works like a scientist. That god didn't snap his fingers and everything into existence shows that he values hard work.

He values hard work even though he wasn't willing to work hard enough to make the world perfect :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

He values hard work even though he wasn't willing to work hard enough to make the world perfect :lol

Started with a perfect couple...they decided to pervert it....I've already commented on this....he created and then left his angels in charge...one angel decided he wanted to turn bad and mislead the people he was tasked with overseeing...which has resulted in untold suffering....life is a test for all of his in many different ways...I personally believe the reason people never come back to earth after they die is because once they die (depending on their destiny) the spirit world is so glorious they don't want to come back

[The Reckoning]

If I'm not mistaken the Bible says...


stopped reading after that

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Started with a perfect couple...they decided to pervert it....I've already commented on this....he created and then left his angels in charge...one angel decided he wanted to turn bad and mislead the people he was tasked with overseeing...which has resulted in untold suffering....life is a test for all of his in many different ways...I personally believe the reason people never come back to earth after they die is because once they die (depending on their destiny) the spirit world is so glorious they don't want to come back

Why wouldn't he make sure the angel he leaves in charge is perfect?

[Leetonidas]

If I'm not mistaken the Bible says

This tells me that you have never even read the book you base your entire religion on, like most religious people. You can shut the fuck up now :tu

[Koolaid_Man]

This tells me that you have never even read the book you base your entire religion on, like most religious people. You can shut the fuck up now :tu

no it doesn't...if anything it tells you I haven't read it or been to church in a while but it doesn't say I haven't read it....

[Koolaid_Man]

Why wouldn't he make sure the angel he leaves in charge is perfect?

who says he didn't....ever heard of free will...it's deep and can get complicated...but he left Lucifer in charge and he decided to turn bad and mislead humans into bad behavior...the devil will get his in due time...

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

who says he didn't....ever heard of free will...it's deep and can get complicated...but he left Lucifer in charge and he decided to turn bad and mislead humans into bad behavior...the devil will get his in due time...

If an angel is perfect it wouldn't use its free will to mislead people and destroy the supposedly perfect world god created.

Nothing about it is deep and complicated, you just make it deep and complicated to try and explain how much a supposedly perfect creation contradicts reality.

[Koolaid_Man]

If an angel is perfect it wouldn't use its free will to mislead people and destroy the supposedly perfect world god created.

Nothing about it is deep and complicated, you just make it deep and complicated to try and explain how much a supposedly perfect creation contradicts reality.

Surprised you of all people don't see the complete and utter fallacy of your own viewpoint :lol let's examine the definition of perfect and free will...so after reading the definitions below you're either being willfully ignorant or just plain ole retarded if you can't see that being perfect only means that the angel met god's standard of completeness...since the angel wasn't a robot he could then exercise his free will to do as he pleased for good or bad....to honor his creator or not to...pretty simple concept tbh :hat

per·fect
adjective
adjective: perfect
ˈpərfikt/
1.
having all the required or desirable elements, qualities, or characteristics; as good as it is possible to be.


free will
noun
noun: free will; noun: freewill
1.
the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion.


synonyms:
self-determination (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=UZR&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&biw=1280&bih=661&q=define+self-determination&sa=X&ei=ReJKU5fKJ6ae2gXB14DoAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQ_SowAA), freedom of choice, autonomy (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=UZR&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&biw=1280&bih=661&q=define+autonomy&sa=X&ei=ReJKU5fKJ6ae2gXB14DoAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCgQ_SowAA), liberty (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=UZR&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&biw=1280&bih=661&q=define+liberty&sa=X&ei=ReJKU5fKJ6ae2gXB14DoAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCkQ_SowAA), independence (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=UZR&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&biw=1280&bih=661&q=define+independence&sa=X&ei=ReJKU5fKJ6ae2gXB14DoAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCoQ_SowAA)

[Blake]

He gave us the 10 Commandments...


thou shalt not kill


23 Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!” 24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number.

It's ok to kill if they're making fun of receding hairlines.

[Koolaid_Man]

It's ok to kill if they're making fun of receding hairlines.

Ohh come off it Blake...the bible is full of simile's, metaphors, figure of speech's, personifications, literal and symbolic meanings....get off your high horse bruh....:lol

[KoolAid Mans Brother]

Ohh come off it Blake...the bible is full of simile's, metaphors, figure of speech's, personifications, literal and symbolic meanings....get off your high horse bruh....:lol

The Bible was written in a completely different language by a human being from half-way across the earth. Why do you hold the human being who wrote it in such high regard?

[Blake]

Ohh come off it Blake...the bible is full of simile's, metaphors, figure of speech's, personifications, literal and symbolic meanings....get off your high horse bruh....:lol

literal or not, explain the moral of the story to killing kids over making fun of a bald guy

[Koolaid_Man]

literal or not, explain the moral of the story to killing kids over making fun of a bald guy

respect the lord's prophets...or bad things will and can happen to you is the moral of the story...the story (not literal) hyperbole...was meant to show the true disdain the lord has for mocking his chosen one...:toast

[Rogue]

any law is used only on the poor imho. The richest muthafuckers may do whatever crime they like and still get away jail free. As to the second world war, the red army broke the Geneva convention just as much as the Nazis did (raping female Polish & German civilians all the way to Berlin, torturing POWs which was well attested by the fact that Paulus's surrendered army, which was still 89,000 men strong the time they surrendered, only had about 5,000 survivors after the war who returned home)

[spurraider21]

there are countless planets. some are bound to have conditions that are favorable for human inhabitants

[spurraider21]

Yes of course... post hoc ergo propter hoc. Oh look, there's mold on the shower curtain... the curtain was made for mold to live there because it supports the mold by being near water, and in a warm environment. All hail great shower curtain god.
:lol nice

[Blake]

respect the lord's prophets...or bad things will and can happen to you is the moral of the story...the story (not literal) hyperbole...was meant to show the true disdain the lord has for mocking his chosen one...:toast

What a thin skinned god you got there.

Lol you want to hang out with that jackass for eternity

[Rogue]

there are countless planets. some are bound to have conditions that are favorable for human inhabitants
even if there exists such a planet somewhere deep in the universe with all the elements necessary to sustain lives, it'd still be total coincidence that inorganic compounds turn into organics and thus life comes into existence. Everything is moving according to the natural rule, but as Newton described it, there had to be an initial push by God. The Lord found the right places and sowed them with the seeds of life.

[spurraider21]

even if there exists such a planet somewhere deep in the universe with all the elements necessary to sustain lives, it'd still be total coincidence that inorganic compounds turn into organics and thus life comes into existence. Everything is moving according to the natural rule, but as Newton described it, there had to be an initial push by God. The Lord found the right places and sowed them with the seeds of life.
with billions among billions of planets with different/unique compositions, properties its not really coincidence. its just math. with so many planets, with so many possibilities, even the unlikeliest of events can happen and shouldn't be a surprise. think if you have a big jar of marbles that have different colors all organized. the bottom 3 rows are only blue marbles, the middle 3 rows are all only red marbles, and the top 3 rows are only yellow marbles. imagine you shake that jar for 10 seconds. surely they will be scrambled. mathematically speaking, it is possible, yet very unlikely, that if you shake it for another 10 seconds, it will again be completely organized as it was originally. the math doesn't favor this to happen, but if you are given trillions of attempts, you could get lucky

[Koolaid_Man]

with billions among billions of planets with different/unique compositions, properties its not really coincidence. its just math. with so many planets, with so many possibilities, even the unlikeliest of events can happen and shouldn't be a surprise. think if you have a big jar of marbles that have different colors all organized. the bottom 3 rows are only blue marbles, the middle 3 rows are all only red marbles, and the top 3 rows are only yellow marbles. imagine you shake that jar for 10 seconds. surely they will be scrambled. mathematically speaking, it is possible, yet very unlikely, that if you shake it for another 10 seconds, it will again be completely organized as it was originally. the math doesn't favor this to happen, but if you are given trillions of attempts, you could get lucky


:lol no sir ain't enough luck in the world...:lmao atheists on the losing side of math...one scientist said it best..the universe being a product of evolution is bout as likely as a person taking all the letters of the alphabet....shaking them up and then throwing them in the air...when the letters hit the floor they form the phrase:" To be or not to be that is the question." :lmao Not happening

[Rogue]

with billions among billions of planets with different/unique compositions, properties its not really coincidence. its just math. with so many planets, with so many possibilities, even the unlikeliest of events can happen and shouldn't be a surprise. think if you have a big jar of marbles that have different colors all organized. the bottom 3 rows are only blue marbles, the middle 3 rows are all only red marbles, and the top 3 rows are only yellow marbles. imagine you shake that jar for 10 seconds. surely they will be scrambled. mathematically speaking, it is possible, yet very unlikely, that if you shake it for another 10 seconds, it will again be completely organized as it was originally. the math doesn't favor this to happen, but if you are given trillions of attempts, you could get lucky
the suitable environment doesn't always guarantee the appearance of life imho. Like a bitch's womb, it has all the necessary resources to sustain lives but a dick has to be inserted there to make things possible. You may get 1000 bitches and deny them any possible access to dicks, then I can assure you the number of people will remain 1000 for their lifetimes and is only going to decrease when/if some of them die.

[spurraider21]

:lol no sir ain't enough luck in the world...:lmao atheists on the losing side of math...one scientist said it best..the universe being a product of evolution is bout as likely as a person taking all the letters of the alphabet....shaking them up and then throwing them in the air...when the letters hit the floor they form the phrase:" To be or not to be that is the question." :lmao Not happening
With at least 200 billion galaxies out there (and possibly even more (http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/09/28/the-deepest-view-of-the-universe-ever/)), we’re very likely talking about a Universe filled with around 1024 planets, or, for those of you who like it written out, around 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets in our observable Universe.


give yourself that many attempts with your alphabet example and you can write fucking shakespeare eventually

[spurraider21]

the suitable environment doesn't always guarantee the appearance of life imho. Like a bitch's womb, it has all the necessary resources to sustain lives but a dick has to be insert to make things possible. You may get 1000 bitches and deny them any possible access to dicks, then I can assure you the number of people will remain 1000 for their lifetimes and is only going to decrease when/if some of them die.
i never said it guarantees life. i said its quite likely due to the math.

there are many planets that are SUITABLE for life, and even fewer that probably do hold life (maybe even just 1)

[Koolaid_Man]

With at least 200 billion galaxies out there (and possibly even more (http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/09/28/the-deepest-view-of-the-universe-ever/)), we’re very likely talking about a Universe filled with around 1024 planets, or, for those of you who like it written out, around 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets in our observable Universe.


give yourself that many attempts with your alphabet example and you can write fucking shakespeare eventually


and yet we can't find no one out there and they dam sure haven't found us :lmao

[Rogue]

there are many planets that are SUITABLE for life, and even fewer that probably do hold life (maybe even just 1)[/QUOTE]
it's not about math bro. Say if you kill all men on this planet while leaving the bitches intact, the human race would still die out within a century because no rule of math could impregnate a bitch imho.

[spurraider21]

and yet we can't find no one out there and they dam sure haven't found us :lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w5JqQLqqTc

[spurraider21]

life would go on, maybe not human life

[xmas1997]

Ohh come off it Blake...the bible is full of simile's, metaphors, figure of speech's, personifications, literal and symbolic meanings....get off your high horse bruh....:lol

This is true, but when it comes to someone like Blake, to believe, someone has to want to believe, and he doesn't want to simply because he wants someone to force him beyond all his doubts to have faith.
In other words he wants to be able to have to believe because of the proof someone or some entity shows to him.
Faith however is believing without the proof so is quite subjective in nature and is much more difficult, not the easy way.
It's quite simple really. Blake does not possess faith, faith demands a bit of effort and he wants it to be easy.

[Blake]

This is true, but when it comes to someone like Blake, to believe, someone has to want to believe, and he doesn't want to simply because he wants someone to force him beyond all his doubts to have faith.
In other words he wants to be able to have to believe because of the proof someone or some entity shows to him.
Faith however is believing without the proof so is quite subjective in nature and is much more difficult, not the easy way.
It's quite simple really. Blake does not possess faith, faith demands a bit of effort and he wants it to be easy.

Oh look. a bunch of gibberish with my name mixed in.

Who could have seen that coming.

[xmas1997]

Oh look. a bunch of gibberish with my name mixed in.

Who could have seen that coming.


Well, he was talking about you.
I was only elucidating your central problem for your benefit.
And that is the point, it's YOUR problem, not mine.
I cannot solve it for you, you won't learn anything if we do it for you.
:lol

[Blake]

Well, he was talking about you.
I was only elucidating your central problem for your benefit.
And that is the point, it's YOUR problem, not mine.
I cannot solve it for you, you won't learn anything if we do it for you.
:lol

There's no problem. And if there was, I never said it was YOUR problem.

More incoherent babble mixed with whine.

[Chewbacca]

Well, he was talking about you.
I was only elucidating your central problem for your benefit.
And that is the point, it's YOUR problem, not mine.
I cannot solve it for you, you won't learn anything if we do it for you.
:lol


:lmao

[xmas1997]

There's no problem. And if there was, I never said it was YOUR problem.

More incoherent babble mixed with whine.

Then I will explain it to you.
When it comes to believing, you have to want to believe. And you don't want to simply because you want someone to force you beyond all your doubts to have faith.
In other words you want to be able to have to believe because of the proof someone or some entity shows to you.
Faith however is believing without the proof so it is quite subjective in nature and it is much more difficult, it"s not the easy way.
You want the easy way, something that doesn't use brain cells.
Now do you understand?
:lol
It's quite simple really. you do not possess faith, faith demands a bit of effort and you want it to be easy.

[Blake]

Faith is for children on Christmas eve......not for adults.

[xmas1997]

Then I will explain it to you.
When it comes to believing, you have to want to believe. And you don't want to simply because you want someone to force you beyond all your doubts to have faith.
In other words you want to be able to have to believe because of the proof someone or some entity shows to you.
Faith however is believing without the proof so it is quite subjective in nature and it is much more difficult, it"s not the easy way.
You want the easy way, something that doesn't use brain cells.
Now do you understand?
:lol
It's quite simple really. you do not possess faith, faith demands a bit of effort and you want it to be easy.


Faith is for children on Christmas eve......not for adults.

Reread the quote above yours.
It applies to you most of all.
Maybe you'll learn something for a change.

[Blake]

I read it. You talked about faith.

If the Bible is legit then prove it. If it takes faith to believe in it, then it's useless.

Again, faith in magic stories and myths is for little kids. Not for educated adults that would like to move society forward to a better place.

[xmas1997]

I read it. You talked about faith.

If the Bible is legit then prove it. If it takes faith to believe in it, then it's useless.

Again, faith in magic stories and myths is for little kids. Not for educated adults that would like to move society forward to a better place.


I'm talking about faith and God here, not one of the many books like the bible.
If all the education you ever got about faith and God came from just the bible, then you are even more ignorant than I thought you were.
You are a very sad excuse for a man, and you'll die a very lonely death.
:lol

[Blake]

I'm talking about faith and God here, not one of the many books like the bible.
If all the education you ever got about faith and God came from just the bible, then you are even more ignorant than I thought you were.

Yes, every god(s) out there takes faith to believe in.

You'll have to give some reasons why faith isn't a waste of time or you're wasting time saying it's relevant.



You are a very sad excuse for a man, and you'll die a very lonely death.
:lol

Actually, I'm pretty happy.

You're clearly having a miserable day though. Your meltdown in the yard sale thread was spectacular. :tu

[xmas1997]

Yes, every god(s) out there takes faith to believe in.

You'll have to give some reasons why faith isn't a waste of time or you're wasting time saying it's relevant.



Actually, I'm pretty happy.

You're clearly having a miserable day though. Your meltdown in the yard sale thread was spectacular. :tu

I don't believe that, if any of your posts are any indication, but I won't bother you anymore since there is a bigger fish to scale, unless you attack me again.

[spurraider21]

"you have to want to believe" is a load of shit tbh :lol. if it was compelling enough to believe it would be believed. if you "have to want to believe" it that means its horsecrap and ignorance is bliss

[Blake]

I don't believe that, if any of your posts are any indication, but I won't bother you anymore since there is a bigger fish to scale, unless you attack me again.

I don't care what you believe.

:cry don't attack me bro :cry

[xmas1997]

"you have to want to believe" is a load of shit tbh :lol. if it was compelling enough to believe it would be believed. if you "have to want to believe" it that means its horsecrap and ignorance is bliss

That is very shallow reasoning on your part sorry to inform you.

[Blake]

That is very shallow reasoning on your part sorry to inform you.

No, it's very logical reasoning.

and feel free at any time to explain the god you believe in and why you do.

[Avante]

Aren't those who are so simple they can't believe anything they can't see funny? Try and explain the cell phone to primitive man, they'd call you crazy.

[xmas1997]

Aren't those who are so simple they can't believe anything they can't see funny? Try and explain the cell phone to primitive man, they'd call you crazy.

Very true.
And now Blake, a proven troll by his own words, wants me to explain God and why I believe?
He needs to get real. Who in their right mind would endeavor to explain anything to a troll?
:lol

[spurraider21]

xmas masquerades but he's a bible thumper, as evidenced by his claims that noah's ark was found :lol

to answer blake's question, xmas' belief in god is seen in the bible

[xmas1997]

xmas masquerades but he's a bible thumper, as evidenced by his claims that noah's ark was found :lol

to answer blake's question, xmas' belief in god is seen in the bible

Sure I know the bible. That doesn't make me a thumper.
I sure as hell don't interpret it "literally".
I know many other great books too, but don't interpret them literally either. and have even studied Wiccan.
That doesn't make me evil or good.
I've explained this countless times on here ad infinitum (Latin for "to infinity").
I am an investigator if anything, I accept nothing for granted or because some other idiot says I have to believe a certain way.
But you are welcome to your opinion on the matter.

[spurraider21]

your claim that noah's ark was discovered tells me you take at least that story literally, which is one of the most fantastic tales told in the book

[xmas1997]

your claim that noah's ark was discovered tells me you take at least that story literally, which is one of the most fantastic tales told in the book

I was referring to the Discovery channels documentary about it which I found very revealing and quite surprising.

[spurraider21]

I was referring to the Discovery channels documentary about it which I found very revealing and quite surprising.
what you were referring to is irrelevant. it would be moronic and illogical to make the claim that noah's ark was discovered only to go on to say that you don't believe the story of noah's ark

[xmas1997]

what you were referring to is irrelevant. it would be moronic and illogical to make the claim that noah's ark was discovered only to go on to say that you don't believe the story of noah's ark

Not necessarily. If it has truly been discovered and is petrified as they claim, how much of the biblical story is real or fictionalized? Those are questions that are still not answered.
I still find it hard to believe that two of every kind of animal was on it.
There are countless accounts of biblical type floods so that isn't too much of a stretch, but the animals?
To me it's no different than alien abduction stories.

[POPownsJackson]

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[Blake]

Aren't those who are so simple they can't believe anything they can't see funny? Try and explain the cell phone to primitive man, they'd call you crazy.

Except the cell phone isn't an intelligent entity that refuses to show himself.

[Blake]

Not necessarily. If it has truly been discovered and is petrified as they claim, how much of the biblical story is real or fictionalized? Those are questions that are still not answered.
I still find it hard to believe that two of every kind of animal was on it.
There are countless accounts of biblical type floods so that isn't too much of a stretch, but the animals?
To me it's no different than alien abduction stories.

It hasn't been discovered. You're just too lazy to go research it.

[Blake]

Very true.
And now Blake, a proven troll by his own words, wants me to explain God and why I believe?
He needs to get real. Who in their right mind would endeavor to explain anything to a troll?
:lol

if you want to have a real discussion, you need to clearly state your beliefs and why you believe them.

But you don't want to. You'd rather spend your time whining about people trolling you.

[xmas1997]

It hasn't been discovered. You're just too lazy to go research it.


According to that documentary it has, or did you miss the special?


if you want to have a real discussion, you need to clearly state your beliefs and why you believe them.

But you don't want to. You'd rather spend your time whining about people trolling you.

Get it right. I love discussing it with normal people.
I won't discuss it with simple minded trolls like you who are the village idiots of forums like this.
:lol

[Blake]

According to that documentary it has, or did you miss the special?

the documentary has been thoroughly debunked, lazy ass.




Get it right. I love discussing it with normal people.
I won't discuss it with simple minded trolls like you who are the village idiots of forums like this.
:lol

Neh, I think you're simply afraid to share your belief.

[xmas1997]

the documentary has been thoroughly debunked, lazy ass.




Neh, I think you're simply afraid to share your belief.

If it had been debunked there would have been a special debunking it as there almost always are and at the very least internet debunks.

And you really should quit thinking so much because it isn't one of your strong suits, you usually make a fool of yourself simply because people give you VALID reasons that you foolishly try to negate, like I just did.
:lol

[Blake]

If it had been debunked there would have been a special debunking it as there almost always are and at the very least internet debunks.

There are plenty of internet debunks, lazy ass.

Lol a special tv program just to debunk it



And you really should quit thinking so much because it isn't one of your strong suits, you usually make a fool of yourself simply because people give you VALID reasons that you foolishly try to negate, like I just did.
:lol

Neh, I think you're still chickenshit until you prove otherwise.

[Blake]

If it had been debunked there would have been a special debunking it as there almost always are and at the very least internet debunks.

There are plenty of internet debunks, lazy ass.

Lol a special tv program just to debunk it



And you really should quit thinking so much because it isn't one of your strong suits, you usually make a fool of yourself simply because people give you VALID reasons that you foolishly try to negate, like I just did.
:lol

Neh, I think you're still chickenshit until you prove otherwise.

[xmas1997]

There are plenty of internet debunks, lazy ass.

Lol a special tv program just to debunk it



Neh, I think you're still chickenshit until you prove otherwise.

And this just goes to prove my point that "thinking" is judt really not one of your strong points, thus your label as "village idiot".
:lol

[Blake]

And this just goes to prove my point that "thinking" is judt really not one of your strong points, thus your label as "village idiot".
:lol

It doesn't prove anything about me.

But keep proving how lazy and cowardly you are.

[xmas1997]

It doesn't prove anything about me.

But keep proving how lazy and cowardly you are.

It's pretty obvious I am right on on the thinking part.
And it appears to be eating you up pretty badly.
You're awfully close to having a chumpdown.
:lol

[Blake]

It's pretty obvious I am right on on the thinking part.
And it appears to be eating you up pretty badly.
You're awfully close to having a chumpdown.
:lol

just made up gibberish. You still have no idea what a meltdown is and how your recent ones have been outstanding.

[Koolaid_Man]

Except the cell phone isn't an intelligent entity that refuses to show himself.

you can't see the wind yet you believe it's there..

[Koolaid_Man]

It doesn't prove anything about me.

But keep proving how lazy and cowardly you are.


James 2:19
New International Version (NIV)

19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.

[Blake]

you can't see the wind yet you believe it's there..

wind can be measured and tested, but what's that have to do with this thread topic?

[Blake]

James 2:19
New International Version (NIV)

19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.

Why are demons so stupid?

If they've seen Heaven and it's so great, why don't they just ask for forgiveness and go back?

[Blake]

James 2:19
New International Version (NIV)

19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.

Why are demons so stupid?

If they've seen Heaven and it's so great, why don't they just ask for forgiveness and go back?

[Koolaid_Man]

Why are demons so stupid?

If they've seen Heaven and it's so great, why don't they just ask for forgiveness and go back?

because there's no sacrifice for their sins..hence they can't be forgiven like you and I...same case with Adam. :hat

[Blake]

because there's no sacrifice for their sins..hence they can't be forgiven like you and I...same case with Adam. :hat

That contradicts the verses that say god forgives

[Koolaid_Man]

That contradicts the verses that say god forgives

nope it doesn't...the bible states that God doesn't forgive blasphemers and by applied extension perfectly created entities that commit sin or should I say those perfect entities that exercise their free will to commit sin. ;-)

you obviously have a very rudimentary basis for your disbelief in God.

[xmas1997]

Why are demons so stupid?

If they've seen Heaven and it's so great, why don't they just ask for forgiveness and go back?

Why do you believe in demons but not in God.
Talk about stupid!

[Blake]

Why do you believe in demons but not in God.
Talk about stupid!

I don't believe in either. You're terrible at reading comprehension.

[xmas1997]

I don't believe in either. You're terrible at reading comprehension.

If you don't believe in them then why ask if they are stupid?
One first has to figure that they exist before you can make assessments about them.
You asked why they were stupid.
It would be idiotic to ask why something that does not exist would have any traits whatsoever.
It must be the village idiot coming to the fore again.
:lol

[Blake]

If you don't believe in them then why ask if they are stupid?
One first has to figure that they exist before you can make assessments about them.
You asked why they were stupid.
It would be idiotic to ask why something that does not exist would have any traits whatsoever.
It must be the village idiot coming to the fore again.
:lol

It's similar to me calling Lois stupid for not figuring out Clark is superman.

smh ivy league

[xmas1997]

It's similar to me calling Lois stupid for not figuring out Clark is superman.

smh ivy league

Terrible analogy.
Lois, Clark, and Superman all exist in a fictitious comic book way.
Demons do not exist unless you believe they do.
Or are you saying they are comic book fictions too.

[Blake]

Terrible analogy.
Lois, Clark, and Superman all exist in a fictitious comic book way.
Demons do not exist unless you believe they do.
Or are you saying they are comic book fictions too.

Yes dumbfuck, that's exactly what I'm saying.

smh ivy league

[xmas1997]

Then to answer your question for him, comic book demons exist only in fiction, lard ass, and thus subject to the creative whims of their authors.
Since you couldn't figure that out for yourself, it just further confirms why you are the village idiot of ST.
:lol

[spurraider21]

he is comparing the bible to a comic book, in that the contents are thus subject to the creative whims of their authors

[Blake]

he is comparing the bible to a comic book, in that the contents are thus subject to the creative whims of their authors

Yeah but he graduated from an ivy league school

[spurraider21]

:lol my ass

[Koolaid_Man]

wind can be measured and tested, but what's that have to do with this thread topic?

the development of the universe can't be measured or tested and yet you believe a big bang occurred :lol touche?

[Blake]

the development of the universe can't be measured or tested and yet you believe a big bang occurred :lol touche?

do you believe in Zeus too or just Bible god?

[Koolaid_Man]

do you believe in Zeus too or just Bible god?


:lol You're funny Blake....don't pivot because I constantly own you when going head to head...I like how you try though...but to answer your question Greek mythology doesn't pre-date the bible or should I say the old testament. :hat it's clear though that jesus was a demi-god based on his earthly powers.

[xmas1997]

:lol You're funny Blake....don't pivot because I constantly own you when going head to head...I like how you try though...but to answer your question Greek mythology doesn't pre-date the bible or should I say the old testament. :hat it's clear though that jesus was a demi-god based on his earthly powers.

Blake believes in Zeus, Yahweh, and Odin. He multi-tasks.
:lol

[Koolaid_Man]

Blake believes in Zeus, Yahweh, and Odin. He multi-tasks.
:lol

his belief system is very rudimentary....he tries to masquerade as some enlightened intellectual when he's really just an angry dip-shit....

[xmas1997]

his belief system is very rudimentary....he tries to masquerade as some enlightened intellectual when he's really just an angry dip-shit....

According to his ex-wife an impotent mentally challenged angry dip shit.

[Blake]

:lol You're funny Blake....don't pivot because I constantly own you when going head to head...I like how you try though...but to answer your question Greek mythology doesn't pre-date the bible or should I say the old testament. :hat it's clear though that jesus was a demi-god based on his earthly powers.

Your logic so far is "we can't see the wind but we know it's real, so god is probably real since we can't see him either".....which is mind blowingly brilliant.

It shouldn't take much more than average intelligence to figure out that the story of Jesus rising from the dead was probably ripped off from the Greek god Dionysus.

[Koolaid_Man]

Your logic so far is "we can't see the wind but we know it's real, so god is probably real since we can't see him either".....which is mind blowingly brilliant.

It's also clear hercules was a Demi god based on his earthly powers.

A billion people don't believe in Herc but they do in the Christ ;-)

[Koolaid_Man]

Your logic so far is "we can't see the wind but we know it's real, so god is probably real since we can't see him either".....which is mind blowingly brilliant.

It shouldn't take much more than average intelligence to figure out that the story of Jesus rising from the dead was probably ripped off from the Greek god Dionysus.

and my logic is we can't see God but we can see his creations all about us...especially when we glaze the universe ;-)

[Blake]

A billion sheep.

Dionysus is a better answer than Herc.

[Blake]

and my logic is we can't see God but we can see his creations all about us...especially when we glaze the universe ;-)

Zeus loves you

[Blake]

Blake believes in Zeus, Yahweh, and Odin. He multi-tasks.
:lol

Lol ivy league

[Blake]

According to his ex-wife an impotent mentally challenged angry dip shit.

Lol ivy leaguer resorting to lying

[xmas1997]

Lol ivy leaguer resorting to lying

Lying and over exaggeration are your schticks, not mine.

[Blake]

Lying and over exaggeration are your schticks, not mine.

no, but laziness and ignorance are yours.

Lol ivy leaguer

[xmas1997]

no, but laziness and ignorance are yours.

Lol ivy leaguer

:lol
And out comes another lie showing you to be the ignorant one, not I, grade school failure.

[Blake]

:lol
And out comes another lie showing you to be the ignorant one, not I, grade school failure.

nope. There's even been a large number of people calling you out on your ignorance today.

it's been a bad day for you, ivy.

[xmas1997]

nope. There's even been a large number of people calling you out on your ignorance today.

it's been a bad day for you, ivy.

And out comes another lie.
Don't you ever get tired of lying through your teeth, or ass?
This has been a glorious day for me, but not a very good one for you sadly.
:lol

[Blake]

And out comes another lie.
Don't you ever get tired of lying through your teeth, or ass?
This has been a glorious day for me, but not a very good one for you sadly.
:lol

Lol no. The proof is there without a shadow if a doubt in the yard sale thread.

[xmas1997]

Lol no. The proof is there without a shadow if a doubt in the yard sale thread.

And out comes lie number three.
You just never stop with them.
Thankfully the intelligent poster knows better than to believe you and your constant lying.
Yes, there are a few of us intelligent posters still on here, unfortunately you are not one of them.
:lol

[Blake]

I don't think you're intentionally lying, tbh.

I think you're really just that dense to not understand the beat down you've taken today.

Lmao ivy league

[xmas1997]

I don't think you're intentionally lying, tbh.

I think you're really just that dense to not understand the beat down you've taken today.

Lmao ivy league

I've taken no beat down.
I've laughed and laughed and laughed at your pathetic failed attempts to troll me all the while inflicting bash after bash.
You give me lots of practice and I'm getting better and better at it tbh.
It is what it is and you are coming out the worse for it.
Sorry, the truth must truly hurt you really bad.
A chumpdown is probably coming from you next.
:lol

[Blake]

I've taken no beat down.


oh yes you have

It's been hilarious, ivy. :lol :lol

[xmas1997]

I guess you are right, I am a total idiot.

It's been hilarious, ivy. :lol :lol

It is what it is.