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50 cent
04-12-2014, 10:13 PM
I'm not smart enough to figure this out. Dallas is now in. What are the different scenarios for who we will matchup with?

I really wanted Dallas in the first round, but would prefer Memphis over Phoenix.

RD2191
04-12-2014, 10:15 PM
I want no part of the Suns, that much I know.

HarlemHeat37
04-12-2014, 10:17 PM
If Dallas beats Memphis, they're 7th..

If Memphis or Sacramento beats Phoenix, the Suns are out..

If Memphis beats the Lakers, Suns and Mavs, they're 7th..

LoneStarState'sPride
04-12-2014, 10:17 PM
Don't quote me, but I believe if Memphis wins out, they'll get the 7 seed and bump Dallas to 8th.

01Snake
04-12-2014, 10:17 PM
I believe that Memphis needs one win and they are in. They hold the tiebreaker with Phoenix

EDIT: Didn't realize Memphis plays LA tomorrow.

Texas_Ranger
04-12-2014, 10:23 PM
Memphis needs 2 more wins. They'll win the next game cause it's against the Lakers and then they have the Suns, against which they can lose but still make the playoffs if they win the last game vs. the Mavs, who will probably not play for real.

spurs1990
04-12-2014, 10:25 PM
So in other words we shoulda been rooting for Phoenix in tonight's game.

Assuming we all wanted Dallas that is.

exstatic
04-12-2014, 10:25 PM
Memphis needs 2 more wins. They'll win the next game cause it's against the Lakers and then they have the Suns, against which they can lose but still make the playoffs if they win the last game vs. the Mavs, who will probably not play for real.

This is pretty much it. My preference for #8 would be, in order: Memphis, Dallas, Phoenix. Dallas is in, and Memphis controls their own destiny. After tonight, Phoenix needs help to get in.

Trainwreck2100
04-12-2014, 10:28 PM
Memphis needs 2 more wins. They'll win the next game cause it's against the Lakers and then they have the Suns, against which they can lose but still make the playoffs if they win the last game vs. the Mavs, who will probably not play for real.


If they lose to the suns and beat the mavs they'll force a three way tie which forces Memphis out. Unless Phoenix loses to the kings.

Mugen
04-12-2014, 10:28 PM
who cares tbh, the Spurs sweep any of those teams and the Thunder probably win in 5 or less.

313
04-12-2014, 10:30 PM
If they lose to the suns and beat the mavs they'll force a three way tie which forces Memphis out. Unless Phoenix loses to the kings.
Wait, what?

Trainwreck2100
04-12-2014, 10:39 PM
Wait, what?

Mephis and the mavs have 32 lossses if Phoenix beats memphis then Memphis will have 33 losses. Then Memphis would have no choice but to beat the mavs which would give the mavs 33 losses. Which would lead to a 3 way tie, unless Phoenix loses to sacto

DesignatedT
04-12-2014, 10:40 PM
I think the tie breaker would come down to this:


Better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams.

http://www.nba.com/standings/playoff_picture.html

313
04-12-2014, 10:41 PM
Mephis and the mavs have 32 lossses if Phoenix beats memphis then Memphis will have 33 losses. Then Memphis would have no choice but to beat the mavs which would give the mavs 33 losses. Which would lead to a 3 way tie, unless Phoenix loses to sacto
oop, sorry I read your post wrong at first. I though it said, "Unless Phoenix loses to the Suns"

50 cent
04-12-2014, 10:55 PM
I'm more confused than ever.

Mel_13
04-12-2014, 10:58 PM
Dallas is in and will be the 7th seed unless Memphis wins out. If Memphis wins out, they will be the 7th seed and Dallas will be 8th.

Phoenix loses all tiebreaker scenarios. The Suns can only make make the playoffs by finishing ahead of Memphis in the standings. If Phoenix finishes ahead of Memphis, the Suns will be the 8th seed and Dallas will be the 7th seed.

Clear as mud.

Beaverfuzz
04-12-2014, 11:06 PM
Fuck all of them, five games at most with either of the three teams. I still think Memphis is #8 when it's all said and done, and Phoenix is fishing.

The_Coyote
04-13-2014, 01:18 PM
I know it's been pointed out many times, but if PHX and MEM were in the East, they'd be fighting for homecourt in the first round.

soxxx
04-13-2014, 03:37 PM
I want the Grizzlies, those assholes threw games to play us in 2011. Now they are in a positin where they cant throw shit and if they do win they will face us.

Id much rather have Dallas play OKC because Dallas has OKC's number, the games are ALWAYS decided in the final minutes. (I would expect OKC to win in 5 but ya never know)

Mel_13
04-13-2014, 03:49 PM
I want the Grizzlies, those assholes threw games to play us in 2011. Now they are in a positin where they cant throw shit and if they do win they will face us.

Id much rather have Dallas play OKC because Dallas has OKC's number, the games are ALWAYS decided in the final minutes. (I would expect OKC to win in 5 but ya never know)

If Memphis beats the Lakers and the Suns, then Wednesday's game with Dallas will be for the 7th seed. So, we could see the Grizz throw a game to get the Spurs.

tmtcsc
04-13-2014, 03:53 PM
We're getting Dallas in the first round. Book it.

ajballer4
04-13-2014, 04:02 PM
I want Memphis. Like a poster above said, Dallas matches up well with OKC. Not saying by any means that they're going to win the series, but it'll be a fun series that could go six games or so. Whether we play Dallas or Memphis, we've owned both of them for two straight seasons. I'm not worried about either.

Fireball
04-13-2014, 04:24 PM
I fear neither of those teams. My concern is the second round because the Spurs have found no clue yet against Aldridge/Lillard or Harden.

Seventyniner
04-13-2014, 04:30 PM
I want the Mavs. No-defense teams are generally not a threat in the playoffs. The Grizz can (grit and) grind the Thunder down a little. The Thunder win that series in 6 but it will take a lot out of them.

exstatic
04-13-2014, 04:33 PM
I want the Mavs. No-defense teams are generally not a threat in the playoffs. The Grizz can (grit and) grind the Thunder down a little. The Thunder win that series in 6 but it will take a lot out of them.

Grizz haven't done shit with OKC, but the Mavs are 3-1.

Mel_13
04-13-2014, 04:44 PM
Grizz haven't done shit with OKC, but the Mavs are 3-1.

2-1. OKC had won 11 straight over Dallas until losing to them twice in March.

Those games have to be taken with a grain a salt. The first game was the front end of a B2B and OKC played without Westbrook, Sefalosha, and Perkins. The second game was the back end of a B2B without Sefalosha and Perkins.

I'd rather see the Spurs play Dallas and OKC play Memphis. Both series will be short, but Dallas will put up less resistance than Memphis in a series with the Spurs.

DesignatedT
04-13-2014, 04:51 PM
Dallas
Memphis
Phoenix

In that order. Dallas plays no defense whatsoever. Leonard and Green will be able to guard Ellis and whoever else. Spurs can do a solid job on Dirk with our personnel .Dejuan Blair..... Lol

spurraider21
04-13-2014, 04:57 PM
the spurs would cruise by any of these teams. i'd rather play dallas in the first round and let OKC tango with memphis

BatManu20
04-13-2014, 05:01 PM
Rather play Dallas cause Memphis will be harder on our bigs, but Dallas matches up better with OKC and miiight be able to push that series to 6 games. Likely only 5 though. I think OKC would sweep Memphis.

Embedded
04-13-2014, 05:44 PM
I think Dallas would rather play OKC. We've beaten Dallas like the last 2 years, yet Dallas has beaten OKC twice this year.

heyheymymy
04-13-2014, 06:23 PM
i guess the best scenario would be to get the grizz and give okc dal or phx. that's what i'm hoping happens if possible.

DesignatedT
04-14-2014, 10:08 AM
So how does Portland jump Houston?

Portland has to win its remaining game and Houston has to lose its remaining 2 games?

bklynspursfan
04-14-2014, 10:11 AM
So how does Portland jump Houston?

Portland has to win its remaining game and Houston has to lose its remaining 2 games?

That's what it looks like. Though Blazers play in LA (Clippers) their last game and we don't know what Pop will do tonight vs Rockets. Rockets won the season series 3-1

bklynspursfan
04-14-2014, 10:11 AM
Jeff McDonald ‏@JMcDonald_SAEN (https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)
Grizzlies win would clinch playoff spot, and eliminate Suns from list of potential first-round foes for the Spurs. ...


Jeff McDonald ‏@JMcDonald_SAEN (https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN) 15m (https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/455721077516550144)
In that case, Spurs' first-round opponent would be decided head-to-head in the final game of the season between Memphis and Dallas.


Jeff McDonald ‏@JMcDonald_SAEN (https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN) 14m (https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/455721317808230400)
If Suns beat Grizzlies tonight, Suns stay alive. If GSW also beats Minnesota, Dallas clinches No. 7 seed, avoids first-round date w/Spurs.

DesignatedT
04-14-2014, 10:12 AM
That's what it looks like. Though Blazers play in LA (Clippers) their last game and we don't know what Pop will do tonight vs Rockets. Rockets won the season series 3-1

Clips are locked into 3 so its a winnable game for sure for Portland. LAC might not dress people.

Rockets have us and NOP. I don't see them losing both even if the Spurs were to somehow pull it out tonight. I don't expect the Spurs to win though.

Venti Quattro
04-14-2014, 10:17 AM
1 SAS
8 MEM
SAS in 4. 5 or 6 if they get unlucky

2 OKC
7 DAL
OKC in 6. Probably will be the West's best R1 series.

3 LAC
6 GSW
LAC in 7.

4 HOU
5 POR
HOU in 6.

Venti Quattro
04-14-2014, 10:21 AM
1 IND
8 ATL
LMAO... IND in 4.

2 MIA
7 CHA
MIA in 4

3 TOR
6 WSH
TOR in 6. Has the potential to be the East's best R1 series.

4 CHI
5 BKN
CHI in 6.

DesignatedT
04-14-2014, 10:21 AM
So...

Memphis wins their last 2 games = Spurs get Dallas
Memphis splits their last 2 games = Spurs get Memphis
Memphis loses their last 2 games = Spurs get Phoenix (assuming Phoenix beats SAC)

bklynspursfan
04-14-2014, 10:35 AM
Clips are locked into 3 so its a winnable game for sure for Portland. LAC might not dress people.

Rockets have us and NOP. I don't see them losing both even if the Spurs were to somehow pull it out tonight. I don't expect the Spurs to win though.

I thought the Clips were locked into the 3, but they kept saying during yesterdays OKC/Pacer game that OKC was trying to hold on to the #2 spot with the Clippers right there. But yea I don't see OKC losing out which is what would have to happen I think.

Rockets/Blazers will be an interesting matchup

Spurish
04-14-2014, 10:40 AM
The most probable scenario is Suns beating Grizzlies tonite, followed by Grizzlies beating already clinched Mavs in a must-win game Wednesday...that leaves Dallas in 7th and Memphis in 8th

313
04-14-2014, 11:30 AM
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If I'm reading these scenarios correctly, Suns win tonight vs Memphis ensures Mavs finish no lower than 7. Could still get 6, but not 8.
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FromWayDowntown
04-14-2014, 12:00 PM
In theory all of the top 7 seeds could be locked up (in order) by the close of business tonight:

Spurs are locked in at #1.

OKC clinches #2 (and LAC clinches #3) if the Thunder win in New Orleans.

Houston clinches #4 (and Portland clinches #5) if the Rockets win tonight over the Spurs.

Golden State clinches #6 with a home win tonight against Minnesota.

Dallas clinches #7 if the Suns beat the Grizzlies tonight in Phoenix.

boutons_deux
04-14-2014, 12:55 PM
http://www.nbaplayoffsbracket.com/2014/index.php

Richie
04-14-2014, 01:06 PM
I want OKC to go through Memphis. I expect both teams beat the Grizz, but it would be much easier for the Spurs than Thunder

Beaverfuzz
04-14-2014, 03:55 PM
We're getting Dallas in the first round. Book it.

So Spurs are finishing 2nd in the conference? Dallas owns all tiebreakers with Phoenix and Memphis.

DesignatedT
04-14-2014, 04:31 PM
So Spurs are finishing 2nd in the conference? Dallas owns all tiebreakers with Phoenix and Memphis.

If Memphis wins their last 2 remaining games they are 7 and Dallas is 8. It's possible.

StoneBuddha
04-14-2014, 04:51 PM
I want Dallas because no they play no D but also to stick to Cuban and Mavs one more time. I still haven't gotten over 2006-- that was almost as bad as last year.

TheyCallMePro
04-14-2014, 05:04 PM
(1) Spurs vs (8) Memphis
(2) Thunder vs (7) Mavericks
(3) Clippers vs (6) Warriors
(4) Portland vs (5) Houston

All Memphis has to do is beat Dallas at home who will be resting all of their starters. It's done.

DesignatedT
04-14-2014, 05:08 PM
(1) Spurs vs (8) Memphis
(2) Thunder vs (7) Mavericks
(3) Clippers vs (6) Warriors
(4) Portland vs (5) Houston

All Memphis has to do is beat Dallas at home who will be resting all of their starters. It's done.

Well if Golden State loses tonight to Minnesota than Dallas could still technically move to 6 which could give them an incentive to not rest against Memphis.

and you need to flip Houston and Portland. Houston will get 4.

Aztecfan03
04-14-2014, 05:15 PM
So...

Memphis wins their last 2 games = Spurs get Dallas
Memphis splits their last 2 games = Spurs get Memphis
Memphis loses their last 2 games = Spurs get Phoenix (assuming Phoenix beats SAC)

edit: WHat am i thinking. that's right.

Aztecfan03
04-14-2014, 05:19 PM
So Spurs are finishing 2nd in the conference? Dallas owns all tiebreakers with Phoenix and Memphis.

Tiebreakers don't help if you have less wins.

spurraider21
04-14-2014, 05:34 PM
there are a handful of scenarios and if i'm not mistaken we can still end up playing any of these teams. just wait it out instead of calculating specific scenarios. heck its still possible we get golden state

Beaverfuzz
04-14-2014, 07:18 PM
If Memphis wins their last 2 remaining games they are 7 and Dallas is 8. It's possible.

So you're saying there's a chance? It's the Grizz.

Beaverfuzz
04-14-2014, 07:19 PM
Tiebreakers don't help if you have less wins.

No one said they'd have less wins but you. Memphis is coming to town baby!

tmtcsc
04-14-2014, 07:23 PM
So Spurs are finishing 2nd in the conference? Dallas owns all tiebreakers with Phoenix and Memphis.

I think Memphis wins out which includes loss # 33 for Mavs in last game of season.

Aztecfan03
04-14-2014, 08:56 PM
No one said they'd have less wins but you. Memphis is coming to town baby!

I didn't say they would. but they could. Your post insinuated that memphis could not pass Dallas.

exstatic
04-14-2014, 09:28 PM
OKC plays Durant 42 minutes with no Westbrook and no shot at #1, and they're going to lose their game.

TVI
04-14-2014, 11:08 PM
OKC plays Durant 42 minutes with no Westbrook and no shot at #1, and they're going to lose their game.Chuckers gonna chuck. 9/23 tonight.

LakerHater
04-14-2014, 11:30 PM
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BatManu20
04-14-2014, 11:36 PM
Would rather play Memphis, but wouldn't mind Dallas. Plus, I wouldn't mind seeing Memphis play OKC in the first round, either.

Sean Cagney
04-14-2014, 11:36 PM
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We are going to get Dallas, I can feel it.

timtonymanu
04-14-2014, 11:37 PM
Both teams can give OKC fits, but the Spurs would possibly sweep both. Can't ask for a better 1st round, tbh.

DesignatedT
04-14-2014, 11:37 PM
So you're saying there's a chance? It's the Grizz.


No one said they'd have less wins but you. Memphis is coming to town baby!

Still so sure?

justinandimcool
04-14-2014, 11:50 PM
Dirk/Ellis can beat us by themselves, no one on the Grizz can. Go Mavs on Wednesday tbh

RD2191
04-14-2014, 11:52 PM
Lets not get too cocky. Respect all opponents.

spurraider21
04-14-2014, 11:56 PM
i think ideally we get Dallas and let OKC deal with the Grizz. not that the Grizz worry me (we take that in 4 or 5), but they're more physical and more likely to wear on us. Also, their style of play really gives OKC fits. Dallas plays virtually no defense so we'd shred them like a typical regular season game

Biernutz
04-15-2014, 12:32 AM
Dallas and the Grizz are in a dead heat. They play each other in Memphis on Wed. night and the loser plays us.

spurraider21
04-15-2014, 12:34 AM
Warriors clinched the 6 seed.

Loser of the Dallas @ Memphis game plays us round 1, winner plays OKC.

LakerHater
04-15-2014, 12:51 AM
icewater:

Dirk tweaked an ankle his last game. There’s a large probability Carlisle would rather rest Dirk vs. Grizz (effectively conceding the game) to have a healthier Dirk in the playoffs than try to play matchup games and potentially lose Dirk in the process

50 cent
04-15-2014, 12:59 AM
That would be perfect.

T Park
04-15-2014, 01:05 AM
Memphis could take OKC to 7. Wouldn't be shocked if they won. It's a bad bad matchup for OKC.

Biernutz
04-15-2014, 01:13 AM
I don't think the Grizz or Mav's want to play OKC. " How do you double tank"

wildchild
04-15-2014, 01:36 AM
This season
OKC vs Dallas 1-2
OKC vs Memphis 3-1

So...Go Mavs on Wednesday!

jiggy_55
04-15-2014, 05:30 AM
This season
OKC vs Dallas 1-2
OKC vs Memphis 3-1

So...Go Mavs on Wednesday!

This. Go Mavs! I do not want to see Dirk hitting crazy shots in the first round. Let him give OKC some fits. Memphis are easy and we've taken care of them recently, Spurs in 4/5.

silverblackfan
04-15-2014, 08:42 AM
I hope the Spurs get Memphis. It is more physical, but hell it is the playoffs. All we need is someone from the Grizzlies to mouth off about how they wanted the Spurs this year...

DesignatedT
04-15-2014, 12:10 PM
Grizz record vs both since the 2011 playoffs when Griz beat Spurs in 6 and lost to OKC in 6.

SAS: 2-14
OKC: 8-8

DesignatedT
04-15-2014, 12:19 PM
Another crazy curveball for Dallas. Big decision for them:


A win vs Grizzlies causes the Mavericks to lose a 1st round pick in a loaded draft but sets up a match with OKC
A loss vs Grizzles sends the mavericks to San Antonio but we get a 1st round pick as a consolation prize

BillMc
04-15-2014, 12:46 PM
A win vs Grizzlies causes the Mavericks to lose a 1st round pick in a loaded draft but sets up a match with OKC
A loss vs Grizzles sends the mavericks to San Antonio but we get a 1st round pick as a consolation prize

Based on this, they should just rest, take the loss to Memphis, and collect their pick. They're not getting out of the first round either way.

Aztecfan03
04-15-2014, 02:04 PM
This season
OKC vs Dallas 1-2
OKC vs Memphis 3-1

So...Go Mavs on Wednesday!

In their losses to the mavs they were missing 2 starters once and 3 starters once.

Aztecfan03
04-15-2014, 02:08 PM
Another crazy curveball for Dallas. Big decision for them:

I'm pretty sure they can lose and still lose their pick. They are still top 10 if toronto or chicago don't pass them. Toronto and chicago are both 1 game back but im not sure on the tiebreakers if they end up tied with dallas.

BatManu20
04-15-2014, 02:21 PM
Random, but pretty remarkable, tbh.

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wildbill2u
04-15-2014, 10:09 PM
This is the Western Conference playoffs. There are no 'gimmes' and you can probably throw out past performances against specific teams because of injuries and such.

I expect OKC to beat either team--but it might be helpful if Memphis beat up on them for seven games, giving them back some of the physicality the Thunder dishes out on defense.

FromWayDowntown
04-15-2014, 10:15 PM
If the Clippers win tonight, I wonder if OKC would be tempted to tank the finale to fall to 3 and set up a matchup with the Bogut-less Warriors. If LAC somehow jumps OKC and Memphis wins, you'd get Clippers v. Grizzlies for the third year in a row. Wonder, too, if the Coippers would rather have the 2 and second round HCA against anyone or ensure that they avoid Memphis.

Beaverfuzz
04-16-2014, 06:19 PM
Still so sure?



Yep, Mavs win tonight.

tmtcsc
04-16-2014, 10:31 PM
I think Memphis wins out which includes loss # 33 for Mavs in last game of season.

tbh.

DesignatedT
04-16-2014, 10:32 PM
Yep, Mavs win tonight.

Good call man. You know your shit.

tmtcsc
04-16-2014, 10:33 PM
If the Clippers win tonight, I wonder if OKC would be tempted to tank the finale to fall to 3 and set up a matchup with the Bogut-less Warriors. If LAC somehow jumps OKC and Memphis wins, you'd get Clippers v. Grizzlies for the third year in a row. Wonder, too, if the Coippers would rather have the 2 and second round HCA against anyone or ensure that they avoid Memphis.

The Thunder need to get their shit together and not slip up against the Grizz. I've been waiting two years to see the Playoff Spurs vs. Playoff Thunder. The regular season is meaningless.

$pursDynasty
04-16-2014, 10:33 PM
did the Nets tank in order to get on the Heat's side of the bracket LOL?

Beaverfuzz
04-17-2014, 05:00 PM
Good call man. You know your shit.

The Mavs did win and so did the Spurs.


Think Rosie Perez from White Men Can't Jump.