Who wins this game? Spurs vs Spurs

[spursfan1000]

David Robinson
Robert Horry
Kawahi Leonard
Sean ******
Tony Parker

Tiago Splitter
Tim Duncan
George Gervin
Vinnie Del Negro
Avery Johnson

I would say consider everyone as how they were on their best year as a spur. sorry just trying to make this last week go by fast

[DesignatedT]

Why doesn't Manu get to play in this game.

[313]

Why doesn't Manu get to play in this game.
Probably coming off the bench

[Prime Time]

Why doesn't Manu get to play in this game.
Who else is going to warm Vinnie's seat?

[spursfan1000]

David Robinson
Robert Horry
Kawahi Leonard
Sean ******
Tony Parker

Tiago Splitter
Tim Duncan
George Gervin
Vinnie Del Negro
Avery Johnson

I would say consider everyone as how they were on their best year as a spur. sorry just trying to make this last week go by fast

I think putting him in either team would automatically make them win. 2005 manu was too beast

[SupremeGuy]

Team A. They're dangerous from every position, whereas Team B would have to be carried by Timmy and Gervin.

Holy fuck, the amount of destruction that David Robinson would do to Tiago. Possible jail time after and shit.

[johnpaulwall21]

Team A is full of versatile players, while team B has 3 one dimensional players. I would still go with Team B because TD and Iceman would be a lethal one two punch.

[spurraider21]

Team A. They're dangerous from every position, whereas Team B would have to be carried by Timmy and Gervin.

Holy fuck, the amount of destruction that David Robinson would do to Tiago. Possible jail time after and shit.
i would imagine team A would assign Robinson to guard Duncan with Horry checking splitter

[SpursFan86]

Team A

[SpurPadre]

Spurs beat the Spurs last year, tbh.

[gilmor]

Robinson in his prime < Duncan in his prime

I, myself, am not sure whether this is true..

[Dex]

Holy fuck, the amount of destruction that David Robinson would do to Tiago. Possible jail time after and shit.

:lmao

[scanry]

Team B only if they didn't have Del Negro & Avery. That's 2000-2002 all over again. Heck even if you replace Tiago with Hakeem, i'll still take Team A.

[hater]

easy. the Heat

[sexinthatsx]

David Robinson
Robert Horry
Kawahi Leonard
Sean ******
Tony Parker

Tiago Splitter
Tim Duncan
George Gervin
Vinnie Del Negro
Avery Johnson

I would say consider everyone as how they were on their best year as a spur. sorry just trying to make this last week go by fast

What if it was Sean Marks and not Sean ******??? lol

[Brazil]

I'd go with team A tbh. Parker and Sean would just destroy Johnson and negro while David, Kawhi and horry would put a good fight. Spacing would also be in favor of team A.

[johnnySpurs]

Robinson in his prime < Duncan in his prime

I, myself, am not sure whether this is true..

It is not true.

[wildchild]

Team B.

As much as I appreciate Robinson and Leonard...Duncan and Ice could score on anyone.
People don't remember how dominant Ice was offensively, every team put their best defender on him, and Gervin still took them all night long.

Having said that, I still give props to today's game and players like Leonard, Iguodala, Tony Allen. The overall defensive intensity of the game is much higher now, the team defense wasn't nearly as sophisticated, and the greater athleticism of today's game is most noticeable on the defensive side.
But Ice would kill these guys.

[Brazil]

Team B.

As much as I appreciate Robinson and Leonard...Duncan and Ice could score on anyone.
People don't remember how dominant Ice was offensively, every team put their best defender on him, and Gervin still took them all night long.

Having said that, I still give props to today's game and players like Leonard, Iguodala, Tony Allen. The overall defensive intensity of the game is much higher now, the team defense wasn't nearly as sophisticated, and the greater athleticism of today's game is most noticeable on the defensive side.
But Ice would kill these guys.

Leonard is capable of doing decent job on dudes like durant and lbj... I'm sure he wouldn't be ridiculous against ice, now negro and johnson would take a bath against parker, sean

[101A]

Team A, and it's not close.

Their length and speed would utterly shut down the other team. AJ doesn't have the range to spread the defense - Del Negro doesn't have the quicks. Prime Robinson would have either the entire front court in foul trouble (Duncan's a good defender, but stopping prime Admiral without racking up fouls was nearly impossible) - they would HAVE to double. Sean. Kawhi & Horry would rain on them. Parker also doesn't have to think before he is in the teeth of the defense, everyone's collapsing; all goes to hell - not to mention Ninja's first step vs. Ice's defense? Please.

Team A - it's not close.

[DocDoc]

Robinson in his prime < Duncan in his prime

I, myself, am not sure whether this is true..

Different players. If DRob was drafted today, I suspect he would be the world's most brutal Center/SF combo - Center on D, SF/slasher on O. He was a lot more of a face the basket player than Duncan and had the speed and hops to score inside.

On that team, Gervin on D is the weak link - they just didn't play D at the level of the current NBA - not saying he couldn't, but they didn't. For those who didn't get to see Gervin, think Durant with finger rolls :)

[Brazil]

Team A, and it's not close.

Their length and speed would utterly shut down the other team. AJ doesn't have the range to spread the defense - Del Negro doesn't have the quicks. Prime Robinson would have either the entire front court in foul trouble (Duncan's a good defender, but stopping prime Admiral without racking up fouls was nearly impossible) - they would HAVE to double. Sean. Kawhi & Horry would rain on them. Parker also doesn't have to think before he is in the teeth of the defense, everyone's collapsing; all goes to hell - not to mention Ninja's first step vs. Ice's defense? Please.

Team A - it's not close.

this

[kuato]

The one with Manu in it.

[Skull-1]

Why doesn't Manu get to play in this game.

Because that would skew the question. Manu would help the other team win, obviously.

[Skull-1]

Robinson in his prime < Duncan in his prime

I, myself, am not sure whether this is true..

Completely untrue. Duncan was never as good as peak David...

[Gagnrath]

Are we playing with hand checking, zone d, 3 seconds?

Also how did splitter show up on this team?

Also is team B's secret weapon having Robinson in his prime constantly stop and apologize to splitter? "I'm sorry tiago, I didn't realize blocking your pseudo hook with my collarbone and knocking you down through the ball was even possible. I sorta thought I would have to jump to block your shot since you are about 6'11"."

[Gagnrath]

Completely untrue. Duncan was never as good as peak David...

I don't know peak Duncan has better range, better passing, and better positioning on defense.

DRob was an explosive athlete, but prime Duncan was deceptively fast not an explsove leaper but quick.

In a bunch of ways drob was a stronger Garnett without as good of a jumper, or maybe the world just wasn't ready for a face up center.

[Phenomanul]

I don't know peak Duncan has better range, better passing, and better positioning on defense.

DRob was an explosive athlete, but prime Duncan was deceptively fast not an explsove leaper but quick.

In a bunch of ways drob was a stronger Garnett without as good of a jumper, or maybe the world just wasn't ready for a face up center.

????

Robinson's jumper (with his unique high release above his head) was money. He consistently hit 15-17 ft jumpers....

[Malice]

Vinny? Seriously? I couldnt stand that assholes game.

[101A]

Robinson 93 - 94




Min 40.5
FG% .507
3p% .345
FT% .749


RPG 10.70
APG 4.8
SPG 1.74
BPG 3.31

PPG 29.8



Just so we all understand what's what. As good as Duncan has been, his peak wasn't > that.

[101A]

Put Manu in for Vinnie, and swap AJ with Strickland - then you might have a game.

But why are we talking about this? The playoffs START next week. This is an August thread.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I think a lot of folks here don't remember Robinson in his prime.

Team A, +25.

[Mugen]

It'd be illegal what a prime D-Rob would do to my Golden God Tiago tbh.

[Embedded]

Team A. They're dangerous from every position, whereas Team B would have to be carried by Timmy and Gervin.

Holy fuck, the amount of destruction that David Robinson would do to Tiago. Possible jail time after and shit. LMAO

[superbigtime]

I'm obviously going with the team with Sean Marks.

[Phenomanul]

Robinson 93 - 94




Min 40.5
FG% .507
3p% .345
FT% .749


RPG 10.70
APG 4.8
SPG 1.74
BPG 3.31

PPG 29.8



Just so we all understand what's what. As good as Duncan has been, his peak wasn't > that.

And that's with stronger defenses in an era with other great centers (Hakeem, Ewing, Shaq, Mourning, etc...) Before the restricted arc was introduced (in 1997 IIRC)...

[Beaverfuzz]

David Robinson
Robert Horry
Kawahi Leonard
Sean ******
Tony Parker

Tiago Splitter
Tim Duncan
George Gervin
Vinnie Del Negro
Avery Johnson

I would say consider everyone as how they were on their best year as a spur. sorry just trying to make this last week go by fast


Dallas wins by three.

[DD]

I'll take the team w/o the biggest playoff pussy in NBA history (i.e. Team B)

[RD2191]

I'll take the team w/o the biggest playoff pussy in NBA history (i.e. Team B)

[RD2191]

I'll take the team with the 4 time NBA Champ.

[Aztecfan03]

I'll take the team w/o the biggest playoff pussy in NBA history (i.e. Team B)

Who would that be?

[Arcadian]

Robinson 93 s 94



Min 40.5
FG% .507
3p% .345
FT% .749


RPG 10.70
APG 4.8
SPG 1.74
BPG 3.31

PPG 29.8



Just so we all understand what's what. As good as Duncan has been, his peak wasn't > that.

I don't buy it. Dave had more impressive stats, but Tim was the better player. I would absolutely take 03 Tim > 94 Dave. In this case, the stats really don't tell the whole story. One could probably rationalize it with reference to the playing styles, different offenses, different competition, etc...but even aside from all that, I think Tim was better regardless. It could be that I prefer traditional low-post/rebounding centers, but that is a winning formula, clearly.

[DD]

Who would that be?

Do you seriously not know the answer to this?

[Aztecfan03]

Do you seriously not know the answer to this?

I didn't follow the spurs until Leonard and didn't really follow much basketball before that. And i am not sure if i am understanding you right? You would take team B, or Team B has the plsyer you are talking about? I was taking it the first way so assumed you were talking about parker or DRob.

[DD]

I didn't follow the spurs until Leonard and didn't really follow much basketball before that. And i am not sure if i am understanding you right? You would take team B, or Team B has the plsyer you are talking about? I was taking it the first way so assumed you were talking about parker or DRob.

Yes, I would take Team B any day of the week and twice on Sundays...and I have nothing against Parker...he's a 3x champ, a Finals MVP, and has been their team MVP since the 2007 Finals

[spursfan1000]

I tried to make this team as even as possible but i guess not lol

[Aztecfan03]

Yes, I would take Team B any day of the week and twice on Sundays...and I have nothing against Parker...he's a 3x champ, a Finals MVP, and has been their team MVP since the 2007 Finals

Well, some Spurs fans like to shit on Parker so i wasn't sure.

[Phenomanul]

I don't buy it. Dave had more impressive stats, but Tim was the better player. I would absolutely take 03 Tim > 94 Dave. In this case, the stats really don't tell the whole story. One could probably rationalize it with reference to the playing styles, different offenses, different competition, etc...but even aside from all that, I think Tim was better regardless. It could be that I prefer traditional low-post/rebounding centers, but that is a winning formula, clearly.

Robinson WAS a rebounding center (despite the fact he had to share rebounding role with a master rebounder in Dennis Rodman)... as for his sub-Duncan back-to-the-basket game, well that only works if you're surrounded by great shooters... clutch shooters when it matters most... Duncan has been fortunate to have great shooting casts his entire career... Robinson's Spurs, despite their gaudy RS records, never had that consistency from the perimeter... so the thing missing from your list is "different teamates" - because they most certainly matter...

[iManu]

I gotta say Team A, because Avery, Vinnie, and Thiago can't guard Tony, Luck_the_Fakers_Luck_the_Fakers_Luck_the_Fakers_Lu ck_the_Fakers_Luck_the_Fakers_, and Horry (and definitely not Robinson). Robinson couldn't stop Hakeem, but he could have with some help defense from a bunch of all stars. I'm afraid this game would be a blowout once Kiwi shuts down Ice.

[wildcardX]

Take Splitter out and put my boy Terry Cummings on that team. Also which team do the refs screw over?

[Brazil]

I'll take the team w/o the biggest playoff pussy in NBA history (i.e. Team B)

In dat particular case team B would have his ass kicked

[SnakeBoy]

Team B gets destroyed in the paint. Team A wins every time.

[iManu]

Robinson
Horry
Kawhi
Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_
Parker

vs.

Duncan
Cummings
Gervin
Manu
Strickland

Might be a better pairing. (In this case, I'd probably take Team B, but Prime Elliott would make it close... and this is also considering that Horry would not be in his prime, otherwise I'd take Team A all day).

Prime Duncan and Prime Robinson would be epic to watch.

I'm sorry, but Prime Del Negro and the Prime General sucked. :hat

[iManu]

Manu or Strickland would probably blow the game in the last seconds, though, tbh. :lol

[DD]

Also, who has HCA (if there was such a thing in this series)? If it's Team A, you know damn well they're gonna lose.

[iManu]

Imo, tbh, this is the best team that we could put on the court, tbh.

Robinson
Duncan
Gervin
Manu
Parker

Honorable mention: Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_

:toast

[Johnny RIngo]

Team A has two of the biggest post-season choke artists in Spur history(Parker, Robinson). I'll take team B,

[Brazil]

Team A has two of the biggest post-season choke artists in Spur history(Parker, Robinson). I'll take team B,

I sometimes forget how dumb you are tbh

[wildchild]

Leonard is capable of doing decent job on dudes like durant and lbj... I'm sure he wouldn't be ridiculous against ice, now negro and johnson would take a bath against parker, sean

Agree. Tony and Sean could destroy Vinny and Avery.
But neither of these two guys dominated the league like Ice and Tim in their prime, and my post was about them. It means you have in the same team the best PF in the history and one of the greatest scorers in the history, 4 leading scorer championship (only 4 player won that, Chamberlain, Jordan, Iverson and Ice), 11 time All Star, etc.

[spursfan1000]

Agree. Tony and Sean could destroy Vinny and Avery.
But neither of these two guys dominated the league like Ice and Tim in their prime, and my post was about them. It means you have in the same team the best PF in the history and one of the greatest scorers in the history, 4 leading scorer championship (only 4 player won that, Chamberlain, Jordan, Iverson and Ice), 11 time All Star, etc.
Thats what i was thinking when I made the teams

[JR3]

Def team A. Robert Horry spreading the floor and Parker running pick and role with robinson would be unstoppable. Plus, Parker can beat del negro and Johnson all day. Probably shouldn't have had del negro in this game lol.

[Skull-1]

I think a lot of folks here don't remember Robinson in his prime.

Team A, +25.


Exactly, exactly.

[spursfan1000]

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