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[Avante]

When will they colorize/HD Casablanca/Citizen Kane/King Kong 1933? Would love to see "On the Waterfront" in color/HD,

[DD]

Part of the charm of those films is that they're B&W...particularly Casablanca. The lighting on Ingrid Bergman's face/eyes is beautiful and classic.

[Biernutz]

Some movies just need to stay B&W........

[DJR210]

OP is a rapist

[Brazil]

Casablanca in color would be a damn shame... this movie is meant to be black and white

overall colorization sucks

[leemajors]

lol HD'ing a movie

[Avante]

Part of the charm of those films is that they're B&W...particularly Casablanca. The lighting on Ingrid Bergman's face/eyes is beautiful and classic.

Yes I know but we've all seen them in B&W, would love to see a different look.

[Avante]

OP is a rapist

You still on that kick, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Would someone please explain to this jerk how things work over there? Ya know military and bars.

[Avante]

Casablanca in color would be a damn shame... this movie is meant to be black and white

overall colorization sucks

Why is it "meant" to be in black and white?

[Reck]

lol HD'ing a movie

Found that particularly funny too. lol

They're more likely to do a remake then do a paintjob over it.

[Avante]

lol HD'ing a movie

Obviously you haven't seen the HD ...The Godfather...it's as if you'd never seen it before.

When those old 1920 records were made they were never meant to be listened to on CD and a megawatt six speaker system, which makes them sound so much better than they did back in 1926 on a buildin speaker record player.

[Avante]

Found that particularly funny too. lol

They're more likely to do a remake then do a paintjob over it.

I just saw The Godfather in HD.

[Reck]

I just saw The Godfather in HD.

Remastering a movie into HD and actually slapping funny colors on a black and white movie are two entirely different things.

[Brazil]

Why is it "meant" to be in black and white?

Movie has a particular cache and is absolutely gorgeous in b&w.

[Brazil]

Colorization usually sucks

[Avante]

Remastering a movie into HD and actually slapping funny colors on a black and white movie are two entirely different things.

This black and white classic seems to have been colorized pretty well. You see any funny colors?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqwk2wXcYRw

[Avante]

Movie has a particular cache and is absolutely gorgeous in b&w.

Would "Gone With the Wind" or "Lawrence of Arabia" be better in black and white?

[Avante]

Colorization usually sucks

Such as in what movie?

[Reck]

This black and white classic seems to have been colorized pretty well. You see any funny colors?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqwk2wXcYRw

By today's standards? By a mile.

That yellow hue is hilariously awful. Is he in a dream?

[Brazil]

Would "Gone With the Wind" or "Lawrence of Arabia" be better in black and white?

Lawrence of Arabia should be great in b&w IMHO

[Brazil]

Lawrence of Arabia should be great in b&w IMHO

Doctor zhuvago too btw

[Avante]

By today's standards? By a mile.

That yellow hue is hilariously awful. Is he in a dream?

I've seen that movie at least a dozen times, even the uncut version in a cinema arts class in college. It was never better than that colorized version. A huge step up in class.

[Avante]

Lawrence of Arabia should be great in b&w IMHO

So all the Arabs are wearing the same color turbans and dress, nay!

[hater]

agree. some movies need to stay in BW

currently watching entire collection of Alfred Hitchcock Show

[Avante]

agree. some movies need to stay in BW

currently watching entire collection of Alfred Hitchcock Show

Nobody is saying dump the black and white, we can have both ya know. I'd just like to see some of those old classics in color and HD.......ALSO!

Alfred Hitchcock, the master!

[leemajors]

Obviously you haven't seen the HD ...The Godfather...it's as if you'd never seen it before.

When those old 1920 records were made they were never meant to be listened to on CD and a megawatt six speaker system, which makes them sound so much better than they did back in 1926 on a buildin speaker record player.

Depends entirely on what the source film was shot on - for example, 2001 was shot on 70mm film, which is natively a higher resolution than 1080p hdtv in the first place. You can't take something shot on shit stock and make it look way better in HD.

[ChumpDumper]

Depends entirely on what the source film was shot on - for example, 2001 was shot on 70mm film, which is natively a higher resolution than 1080p hdtv in the first place. You can't take something shot on shit stock and make it look way better in HD.

Makes me sad every time I watch Brideshead Revisited. Minor miracle that one was made in the first place.

Colorization is still shitty. Ted Turner ruined a ton of movies that way and it has only gotten marginally better since. Was able to stand it for WW I in color but a flat no to features. The contrast in those movies is usually pretty great in b&w.

[Thread]

agree. some movies need to stay in BW

currently watching entire collection of Alfred Hitchcock Show

Some damn good ones in there. The 30 minute episodes are better than the hour long ones. It is uncanny & a sturdy testament how they can tell a story in 25 minutes of air time. I watched one the other nite entitled "Road Hog" and had the estimable Robert Emhardt as a traveling salesman of gambling devices (punch cards) and light pornagraphic implements who travels the back roads selling this shit. They give a fleeting glimpse that he may also be a child molester/abuser early on, but, it's left alone as the story takes on it's significance. He blocks a man and his sons from passing on a dirt road and the man's son dies of his wounds from being gored by a bull. Vengeance is then taken in a most ingenious way and it is thru this act that we're informed as to the victim's father's place and power in this small community.

This is fine television, just superb story telling, acting, production and execution.

[mrsmaalox]

Why is it "meant" to be in black and white?

It's meant to be in black and white because that's how the director made it.

[mrsmaalox]

That King Kong colorization is hideous. I'm not saying that the black and white version is perfect, but considering the level of technology at the time it is at least innovative. The problem with colorization is that the colors run together like water color. There hasn't been a method developed yet that contains the colors within an "outline" so the edges are "crisp" and realistic----I don't know if that describes what I mean. Also, it's not possible to interpret the lighting and shadows that the director intentionally used to achieve the final product. Directors like Hitchcock were geniuses with the black and white, there is absolutely no reason to manipulate his work.

[Spur-Addict]

It's meant to be in black and white because that's how the director made it.

:lol

Bygone eras should just be left as is. Changing it would tamper with the mystique of it all.

[mrsmaalox]

Also, colorization of Citizen Kane was attempted by Ted turner in the 80's. Luckily, Orson Welles had made his dislike of colorization well known and the only way would be to obtain legal permission from his estate. He's not the only director who made sure his films were safe from it, thank goodness.

[Avante]

It's meant to be in black and white because that's how the director made it.

As we know back then it cost a lot more to deal with color in film, keep in mind Casablanca was made in 1942, few color films had been made by then. But, I do remember something about black and white being the choice anyway.

[Avante]

I'm a big fan of King Kong, and it was cool to see it in color, and would be really cool to see it in HD also. I own the black and white original so if I need to see the original, there it is. Why not have it all?