Who would you rather face in the first round: Memphis or Dallas?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I say Dallas. I know the Spurs own Memphis lately but Dallas would place less wear and tear on the Spurs.

On the flip side, Memphis would be a good tune up for the Rockets in terms of guarding big men.

[Blizzardwizard]

I say Dallas, but fear that Dirk and Carter would go 60% each from the field in the series.

[Mel_13]

I'll take the team with 22nd ranked defense, Alec.

[Prime Time]

Dallas, easily. I have no idea why some users would prefer Memphis.

[Boomersgold]

The team that Blair's on

[Budkin]

Dallas all day.

[bklynspursfan]

Dallas. Memphis can wear out OKC and be extra physical with them.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Dallas. Memphis can wear out OKC and be extra physical with them.

touche'

[dg7md]

Dallas, because the Grizzlies match up excellently against the Thunder and could give them a difficult time.

[HarlemHeat37]

Doesn't really matter, tbh..

Spurs probably sweep Memphis..Dallas could get 1 behind a hot game from Dirk or Ellis, but it would still be an easy series win..

OKC would easily beat Memphis, but at least there would be the hope that Tony Allen gets Durant with a cheap shot, or Z-Bo gets angry and breaks Ibaka's jaw:lol..

[ajballer4]

Memphis. I like the way Dallas matches up with OKC

[playbonner15]

The team that Blair's on
This, tbh.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Memphis. I like the way Dallas matches up with OKC

That's the other thing, I think Dallas would give Okc a much harder time than Memphis

[BillMc]

Doesn't really matter, tbh..

Spurs probably sweep Memphis..Dallas could get 1 behind a hot game from Dirk or Ellis, but it would still be an easy series win..

OKC would easily beat Memphis, but at least there would be the hope that Tony Allen gets Durant with a cheap shot, or Z-Bo gets angry and breaks Ibaka's jaw:lol..]

This. 100%

[spurspokesman]

Either, we would have it easier against dallas or if we played memphis there is a chance dallas knocks off okc or wears them down severely

[Blake]

Memphis so that Dallas plays OKC

[superbigtime]

Dallas. Short flight.

[Spursfanfromafar]

You always prefer the team that plays the poorer defense :)

[FvckMavs]

Dallas. Memphis beat OKC 4-1 in WCSF last year. OKC did not have Westbrook in that series though.

[Dex]

http://i.imgur.com/8vko74R.gif

Doesn't matter. Spurs gonna swag like this little kid right here.

[loveforthegame]

I voted Dallas but SA should make quick work of either one.

[BatManu20]

Dallas. OKC's bigs wear on ours. And I like the idea of Gasol and Z-Bo making life hard on OKC down low for a series.

[Cry Havoc]

Memphis.

I never want to face Dirk in the playoffs if I can avoid it. That crazy German can win 2 games basically by himself.

The Mavs would be favored to go to the ECF out East, it's crazy.

[dallasmaverickslose]

There's nothing better than sending Dallas home.

[exstatic]

There's nothing better than sending Dallas home.

Other than maybe punishing Memphis again. That shit never gets old. With Jet gone, I just don't hate Dallas half as much.

[dallasmaverickslose]

Other than maybe punishing Memphis again. That shit never gets old. With Jet gone, I just don't hate Dallas half as much.

Ya know, Mark Cuban still owns the Mavs...

[romsho]

Dallas. Memphis can wear out OKC and be extra physical with them.

Exactly. More about Memphis playing OKC than anything.

[Raven]

They both suck, but dallas i guess

[exstatic]

Ya know, Mark Cuban still owns the Mavs...

Yeah, but I've never hated anyone in the Dallas organization, past or present like Jet-turtle.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Yeah, but I've never hated anyone in the Dallas organization, past or present like Jet-turtle.

Yeah, Jet is up there as one of my all time most hated players.

In terms of players who are in their prime right now, I probably hate Westbrook the most.

[Chinook]

Dallas. Memphis sucks, though. I don't know why people can't seem to understand that. I think they may be the worst of all 16 playoff teams, although Charlotte and Atlanta are pretty bad.

[DesignatedT]

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[hater]

agree both are bad. Dallas is less physical and Spurs pretty much play at home when in Dallas. Dallas would be a lot less fatigue on the body and mind.

[rmt]

Dallas plays OKC well so Memphis - as long as Pop plays Splitter vs MEM, Spurs are ok.

[hater]

never seen a fanbase as scared of a team as Spursfan of Thunder.... let me go bump my thread with the same title.... :rolleyes

[Cry Havoc]

Exactly. More about Memphis playing OKC than anything.

Disagree. OKC matches up VERY well with Memphis due to their bigs being able to somewhat contain Memphis. Meanwhile, the Thunder have NO answer for Dirk. None. Not even close. Dirk shits on everyone including Thabo.

OKC - Memphis is done in 5-6

OKC - Dallas goes AT LEAST 6, IMO.

[Cry Havoc]

Dallas. Memphis sucks, though. I don't know why people can't seem to understand that. I think they may be the worst of all 16 playoff teams, although Charlotte and Atlanta are pretty bad.

Worst take of the month. Memphis is a 50+ win team. They would be a 3 seed in the East and I'd have them going to 7 against the disfunctional Pacers.

[Aztecfan03]

Disagree. OKC matches up VERY well with Memphis due to their bigs being able to somewhat contain Memphis. Meanwhile, the Thunder have NO answer for Dirk. None. Not even close. Dirk shits on everyone including Thabo.

OKC - Memphis is done in 5-6

OKC - Dallas goes AT LEAST 6, IMO.

Not in the only game Thabo played against Dallas this year.

Be honest. Are you all saying Dallas matches up well just because of Dallas' two wins which were against teams without 2 and 3 of their starters?

[Chinook]

Worst take of the month. Memphis is a 50+ win team. They would be a 3 seed in the East and I'd have them going to 7 against the disfunctional Pacers.

Lol. Let me guess: You thought Memphis was going to win last season, didn't you?

[TD 21]

Grizzlies. The lack of anything resembling a dominant offensive player makes them less dangerous and the fact that they're far superior defensively is largely irrelevant, considering they too are unable to slow down the Spurs.

This series isn't so much about winning for the Spurs (because it should go without saying) as it is winning it in no more than 5 games. If it somehow extends beyond that, it's a loss in the grand scheme of things.

[Cry Havoc]

Not in the only game Thabo played against Dallas this year.

Be honest. Are you all saying Dallas matches up well just because of Dallas' two wins which were against teams without 2 and 3 of their starters?

What? I couldn't give two shits about the regular season. Check my post history. I don't give a fuck about what happened in games that don't matter. I just know that between Memphis and Dallas, Dirk would be far and away the best player on either team, and the most consistent threat to put up 35+.


Lol. Let me guess: You thought Memphis was going to win last season, didn't you?

Why would you say that? Me debating your thought that the Grizzlies are, at best, the 3rd WORST team in the playoffs means I think they were going to beat us last year? Come on now. I had the Spurs in 7 last year over the Griz. Again, this is a team that, playing in the West, would be a 3 seed out East. So yeah. Not buying them as the 16th best team in the league when they're sitting a game out of 50 wins.

[$pursDynasty]

Whomever will give OKC a harder opening round, I want the other team. Dallas gave OKC more run in the regular season, but who is to say the Grizzlies might give the Thunderefs a harder first round matchup. I like the Spurs chances against either. I only felt the young athletic Suns was the scariest Spurs matchup.

[Chinook]

What? I couldn't give two shits about the regular season. Check my post history. I don't give a fuck about what happened in games that don't matter. I just know that between Memphis and Dallas, Dirk would be far and away the best player on either team, and the most consistent threat to put up 35+.



Why would you say that? Me debating your thought that the Grizzlies are, at best, the 3rd WORST team in the playoffs means I think they were going to beat us last year? Come on now. I had the Spurs in 7 last year over the Griz. Again, this is a team that, playing in the West, would be a 3 seed out East. So yeah. Not buying them as the 16th best team in the league when they're sitting a game out of 50 wins.

You thought Grizz would lose in seven, which is basically a coin flip from them winning. I thought sweep or five at most. Memphis sucks. They just do. They can't even beat the Clippers unless Blake is hobbled.

I don't think it's a stretch to say they're the worst team in the Western bracket. You think they're below Indiana and Miami. So we're debating four teams really. I like Brooklyn over them due to better offense and still sound defensive pieces. Toronto is about even--more upside but less proven. Washington is similar to Toronto in that they have more talent but haven't shown enough. Chicago is pretty much Memphis North with a strong defense built around a star big but lacks any upside. I'd takr Chicago's superior coaching and heart, though.

The only team I couldn't see beating Memphis is Charlotte. The Cats just have no upside at all. For being so bad for so long, the team just has no talent. I think Atlanta would win easily if they had Horford.

We can squabble over specific hypothetical matchups if you want. But I stand by my assertion that Memphis is overrated. There's a reason why Hollinger keeps breaking up the roster bit by bit.

[RD2191]

How in the hell is a team who won 49 games in the west overrated? Not to mention Gasol missed a good amount of games. They could of easily been a top 4 seed this season.

[BanditHiro]

Mavs. I rather the Thunder get beat up by the Grizz and Mavs vs Spurs will make the forum interesting.

[RD2191]

Memphis sucks against the Spurs, doesn't mean they can't hang with other top teams. They went in raw on Houston a couple of times.

[Cry Havoc]

You thought Grizz would lose in seven, which is basically a coin flip from them winning. I thought sweep or five at most. Memphis sucks. They just do. They can't even beat the Clippers unless Blake is hobbled.

For starters, that's unproven. The Griz could potentially take out the Clippers in a series. And even if they lost to them, the Clippers are an incredibly dangerous team this year. Several of their players have made strides. You can't say getting beat by the Clippers is a mark of disdain anymore, a lot of people have them favored over even OKC. The Grizzlies were just in the fucking Western Conference Finals, for fuck's sake. That doesn't happen by accident.


I don't think it's a stretch to say they're the worst team in the Western bracket.

I'd give them even money against Dallas, Portland, and Golden State. Also, waving your hand over the Western bracket like it's a standard year is ridiculous. This is, quite possibly, the most loaded conference in the history of the NBA this season. It's absurd. The TWolves would likely be a top 5 seed out East, and they can't sniff the playoffs now.


You think they're below Indiana and Miami.

Says who? I'd give them a real shot at beating the Pacers right now.


So we're debating four teams really.

Nope.


I like Brooklyn over them due to better offense and still sound defensive pieces. Toronto is about even--more upside but less proven. Washington is similar to Toronto in that they have more talent but haven't shown enough. Chicago is pretty much Memphis North with a strong defense built around a star big but lacks any upside. I'd takr Chicago's superior coaching and heart, though. The only team I couldn't see beating Memphis is Charlotte. The Cats just have no upside at all. For being so bad for so long, the team just has no talent. I think Atlanta would win easily if they had Horford.

This is pretty hilarious stuff. You'd take a team that could barely get to .500 in the East against a borderline 50 win team in a ridiculous conference that hasn't even had their best defender for a large part of the season. Ok chief. I would take Memphis over everyone except maybe Brooklyn, and I think it'd be even money with the Nets. It's apparently so easy to win 50 games out East but you think the 43 win Wizards are worthy of respect. K.

[SilverSpur]

Dallas, because I believe Memphis gives OKC a better series.

[8FOR!3]

Edit: Wrong Thread lol.

[Chinook]

For starters, that's unproven. The Griz could potentially take out the Clippers in a series. And even if they lost to them, the Clippers are an incredibly dangerous team this year. Several of their players have made strides. You can't say getting beat by the Clippers is a mark of disdain anymore, a lot of people have them favored over even OKC. The Grizzlies were just in the fucking Western Conference Finals, for fuck's sake. That doesn't happen by accident.



I'd give them even money against Dallas, Portland, and Golden State. Also, waving your hand over the Western bracket like it's a standard year is ridiculous. This is, quite possibly, the most loaded conference in the history of the NBA this season. It's absurd. The TWolves would likely be a top 5 seed out East, and they can't sniff the playoffs now.



Says who? I'd give them a real shot at beating the Pacers right now.



Nope.



This is pretty hilarious stuff. You'd take a team that could barely get to .500 in the East against a borderline 50 win team in a ridiculous conference that hasn't even had their best defender for a large part of the season. Ok chief. I would take Memphis over everyone except maybe Brooklyn, and I think it'd be even money with the Nets. It's apparently so easy to win 50 games out East but you think the 43 win Wizards are worthy of respect. K.

So let me get this straight: Your only defense is records? Because you've literally brought up no other arguments. The fact that they're a poorly built team who's second-best player is in massive decline and who's rotation after their third-best player is barely playoff worthy means nothing to you?

Look, I get it: You want to be flashy and condescending and all that. Whatever. But at least bring something better to the table than what you have here. You seem to think Memphis is in a certain tier that they're just not in as far as I can see. They weren't even close to a contender last year when you thought they could take the Spurs to seven games. I didn't go around calling that a horrible take even though I thought it was absurd. Now you come back with the same belief in them, and you want to call me out for dismissing them?

Let's be clear: None of us are psychic or experts. We're all just giving opinions. It's fine to disagree with me, because you may well end up being right. But don't come here thinking your view is somehow superior, especially since your last take on Memphis ended up being so far off base.

[Mugen]

The Thunder would roll the Grizzlies in 5 or less tbh. Maybe Dirk can ball out and push a Thunder series to 6 games but I doubt it.

It's a coin flip as I think the Spurs would sweep both. Dallas wins because of proximity IMO.

[Cry Havoc]

So let me get this straight: Your only defense is records? Because you've literally brought up no other arguments. The fact that they're a poorly built team who's second-best player is in massive decline and who's rotation after their third-best player is barely playoff worthy means nothing to you?

My best defense for the Grizzlies is.... defense. Their stellar defense in the post to be precise (and very very good with Allen on the wing). Just to be clear, your rationale for putting the Wizards and Raptors over a team that has proven that it can win long playoff series repeatedly in the past 3-4 years of the playoffs is that they "have upside". No elaboration or elucidation. Just that they have upside and they haven't proven themselves yet. And yes, records are a BIG deal when the Grizzlies have played the 8th most difficult schedule, while the Raptors and Wizards rank 19th and LAST, respectively. Despite this, the Grizzlies have a better margin of victory (4.71) than the Raptors (3.57) or the Wizards (2.33) over the last 25% of their schedule (i.e., Gasol playing). To say nothing of the fact that the playoffs are decided by teams that win defense and can slow down the clock and grind out possessions. Do you think the Wizards or Raptors can get stops when they need to? I don't. There's no "upside" for me in either team this season. Perhaps down the road, absolutely, but to put Memphis beneath both of them is unrealistic.

And you're still ignoring the fact that this is anything but a normal year, even for a typically difficult conference. How much does it say about the quality of teams in the West that the NBA commish is entertaining the idea of changing the entire playoff format because the West is such a murderers' row of teams? That is not something the NBA jumps at the chance to do. They would be loathe to do so and would switch to a 16 seeded playoff only if it were absolute necessity by GMs/fans/etc.


Look, I get it: You want to be flashy and condescending and all that. Whatever. But at least bring something better to the table than what you have here. You seem to think Memphis is in a certain tier that they're just not in as far as I can see. They weren't even close to a contender last year when you thought they could take the Spurs to seven games. I didn't go around calling that a horrible take even though I thought it was absurd. Now you come back with the same belief in them, and you want to call me out for dismissing them?

Har har, coming from the person who made the assumption that I was a cliff jumper last year. But *I'm* being condescending. Ooookay.


Let's be clear: None of us are psychic or experts. We're all just giving opinions. It's fine to disagree with me, because you may well end up being right. But don't come here thinking your view is somehow superior, especially since your last take on Memphis ended up being so far off base.

So far off base: I said a series would go 7. Two games went to overtime, and the last one was close throughout. That is not "far off base". That is being right about a playoff series being extremely close and difficult to call. It was 2 points away from going 6, and we got the better end of things. The fact that you don't remember or won't acknowledge how tight every game in that series was after the first is on you.

Speaking of which, experience speaks volumes about how the playoffs are completed. You can't just hide under the umbrella of unpredictability. We know a lot about how the playoffs change the landscape and favor certain teams.

Memphis is a veteran laden, playoff tested, very tough defensive team one year removed from being one of the four teams left standing.

The Raptors and Wizards are very young, not at all tested in the playoffs, and when is the last time they've won a game that meant anything?

[Sean Cagney]

Other than maybe punishing Memphis again. That shit never gets old. With Jet gone, I just don't hate Dallas half as much.

JET GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, I hate that dude till this day. I saw a finals replay from 011 on TV the other day when getting food and saw Jet with those socks and headband and had flashbacks! I can't stand that guy.

[50 cent]

Dallas. I have Floor Seats for the Mavs first home playoff game and I badly want to see the Spurs in seats like that.

Pretty much means we are going to get Memphis.

[RD2191]

Fellas settle down, both are good takes. You could have robdiaz level takes and then you would really look like assholes.

[TE]

My best defense for the Grizzlies is.... defense. Their stellar defense in the post to be precise (and very very good with Allen on the wing). Just to be clear, your rationale for putting the Wizards and Raptors over a team that has proven that it can win long playoff series repeatedly in the past 3-4 years of the playoffs is that they "have upside". No elaboration or elucidation. Just that they have upside and they haven't proven themselves yet. And yes, records are a BIG deal when the Grizzlies have played the 8th most difficult schedule, while the Raptors and Wizards rank 19th and LAST, respectively. Despite this, the Grizzlies have a better margin of victory (4.71) than the Raptors (3.57) or the Wizards (2.33) over the last 25% of their schedule (i.e., Gasol playing). To say nothing of the fact that the playoffs are decided by teams that win defense and can slow down the clock and grind out possessions. Do you think the Wizards or Raptors can get stops when they need to? I don't. There's no "upside" for me in either team this season. Perhaps down the road, absolutely, but to put Memphis beneath both of them is unrealistic.

And you're still ignoring the fact that this is anything but a normal year, even for a typically difficult conference. How much does it say about the quality of teams in the West that the NBA commish is entertaining the idea of changing the entire playoff format because the West is such a murderers' row of teams? That is not something the NBA jumps at the chance to do. They would be loathe to do so and would switch to a 16 seeded playoff only if it were absolute necessity by GMs/fans/etc.



Har har, coming from the person who made the assumption that I was a cliff jumper last year. But *I'm* being condescending. Ooookay.



So far off base: I said a series would go 7. Two games went to overtime, and the last one was close throughout. That is not "far off base". That is being right about a playoff series being extremely close and difficult to call. It was 2 points away from going 6, and we got the better end of things. The fact that you don't remember or won't acknowledge how tight every game in that series was after the first is on you.

Speaking of which, experience speaks volumes about how the playoffs are completed. You can't just hide under the umbrella of unpredictability. We know a lot about how the playoffs change the landscape and favor certain teams.

Memphis is a veteran laden, playoff tested, very tough defensive team one year removed from being one of the four teams left standing.

The Raptors and Wizards are very young, not at all tested in the playoffs, and when is the last time they've won a game that meant anything?
Good take man. :tu

[tmtcsc]

I want Dallas because it would prepare the Spurs better for a second round match up against either Portland or Houston. But as many have said, it really doesn't matter. It's just a preference.

[TheGoldStandard]

Dallas because it's a small drive up to Dallas from SA and then the same for a Houston matchup in round 2 and OKC is not that far away either.. less fatigue from the travel schedule if we go several games.

[Chinook]

My best defense for the Grizzlies is.... defense. Their stellar defense in the post to be precise (and very very good with Allen on the wing). Just to be clear, your rationale for putting the Wizards and Raptors over a team that has proven that it can win long playoff series repeatedly in the past 3-4 years of the playoffs is that they "have upside". No elaboration or elucidation. Just that they have upside and they haven't proven themselves yet. And yes, records are a BIG deal when the Grizzlies have played the 8th most difficult schedule, while the Raptors and Wizards rank 19th and LAST, respectively. Despite this, the Grizzlies have a better margin of victory (4.71) than the Raptors (3.57) or the Wizards (2.33) over the last 25% of their schedule (i.e., Gasol playing). To say nothing of the fact that the playoffs are decided by teams that win defense and can slow down the clock and grind out possessions. Do you think the Wizards or Raptors can get stops when they need to? I don't. There's no "upside" for me in either team this season. Perhaps down the road, absolutely, but to put Memphis beneath both of them is unrealistic.

And you're still ignoring the fact that this is anything but a normal year, even for a typically difficult conference. How much does it say about the quality of teams in the West that the NBA commish is entertaining the idea of changing the entire playoff format because the West is such a murderers' row of teams? That is not something the NBA jumps at the chance to do. They would be loathe to do so and would switch to a 16 seeded playoff only if it were absolute necessity by GMs/fans/etc.



Har har, coming from the person who made the assumption that I was a cliff jumper last year. But *I'm* being condescending. Ooookay.



So far off base: I said a series would go 7. Two games went to overtime, and the last one was close throughout. That is not "far off base". That is being right about a playoff series being extremely close and difficult to call. It was 2 points away from going 6, and we got the better end of things. The fact that you don't remember or won't acknowledge how tight every game in that series was after the first is on you.

Speaking of which, experience speaks volumes about how the playoffs are completed. You can't just hide under the umbrella of unpredictability. We know a lot about how the playoffs change the landscape and favor certain teams.

Memphis is a veteran laden, playoff tested, very tough defensive team one year removed from being one of the four teams left standing.

The Raptors and Wizards are very young, not at all tested in the playoffs, and when is the last time they've won a game that meant anything?

You wrote a whole bunch of stuff there. Let me try to sift through it. I apologize if I miss things. It's miserable trying to type long posts on my phone.

Memphis no longer has an elite defense. They're eighth in defensive efficiency, behind Charlotte and just ahead of Washington and Toronto (literally just fourth tenths of a point). They have little defensive advantage. Post defense itself is overrated in today's league, so unless the Grizz meets Charlotte in the Finals, they won't have a major advantage there. If you want to say Memphis has the more-experienced defense, sure I can understand. If you want to claim they're just rounding into form, I would be dubious but not dismissive. But I can't agree with the reasoning that Memphis has been superior.

I think you're overstating the strength of the West this season. Sure, seven teams will have won fifty games, but there are still only two contenders. Memphis was a 56-game winner last year when the Spurs showed how inferior they were. Records aren't a reliable indicator for playoff success. That's especially true given that Memphis can still finish with the same record as Chicago and Toronto.

I don't know why you keep trying to split hairs. I asked if you picked Memphis last year, or accused you if it makes you feel better. You replied that you picked the Spurs in seven and now continue to act indignant that I would say your take was off base. The Spurs dominated them. They don't have to have blown them out in every game for that to be true. They beat them in every way possible, wire-to-wire, comeback, almost choking, overtime. They beat them with Splitter and Duncan dominating, and they beat them using perimeter guys while the bigs stumbled. It wasn't close. No sweep is ever close. Memphis wasn't a match for the Spurs, and it wasn't just because SA was so good.

So the debate comes down to experience versus upside. You take experience, which is a perfectly acceptable bet to take. I am taking upside, by which I mean that I am of the believe that Toronto and Washington have more gears to racket up their performance than Memphis does. I don't believe the Grizz can play any better than they have recently. The Spurs are a contender because they have both experience and upside.

I'm not trying to tell you that you picked the wrong side of the debate. We won't know if you have until June. I am simply explaining why my side exists and why it's legitimate. I have no faith in Memphis as a true playoff team. I've seen nothing here that changes that belief.

[Biernutz]

I don't know if it is posted anywhere else but TNT will have the Western Conference games and
ESPN the East.

[GritandGrind]

I'm a Grizz fan and I know you guys will sweep us winning by 20 every game.But there is no way we go down in the first round without taking some Dirty/cheap shots at you guys especially in the first round.We are not the hawks(east) we survive the West with Gasol missing half the season plus we know what it takes to win as a 8th seat.

[Budkin]

I don't know if it is posted anywhere else but TNT will have the Western Conference games and
ESPN the East.

The only games that are exclusive are the Conference Finals I believe. Either way, thank God.

[BatManu20]

I'm a Grizz fan and I know you guys will sweep us winning by 20 every game.But there is no way we go down in the first round without taking some Dirty/cheap shots at you guys especially in the first round.We are not the hawks(east) we survive the West with Gasol missing half the season plus we know what it takes to win as a 8th seat.

So you're already conceding that your team will lose to the Mavs tonight, eh?

[Brazil]

Dallas, Mem would be a more physical match up

[Arcadian]

The better question now is, who do they prefer in round 1? Does Memphis tank tonight's game to get the Spurs? Do the Mavs? Does either team prefer the Spurs over the Thunder?

[BC3]

according to some mavs fans on the mavs forums they want no part of the spurs and would rather try their luck against thunder. smart guys.



quotes by mavs fans as seen on mavs forums related to who they might face in the first round...

"I guess we're gonna go all out on Wednesday against the Grizzlies. We both have the same record (49-22)... the winner gets to not get swept by the Spurs. Let's do this!!"

"Let's beat the Griz and hope Westbrook decides to play hero ball. I want no part of the Spurs in the first round."

"I'd give us a fighting chance against OKC, after all we won the regular season series against them. Still think a sweep is more likely than the upset, but against the Spurs a sweep is more likely than us trading away first round picks"

[crc21209]

The only games that are exclusive are the Conference Finals I believe. Either way, thank God.

This. TNT doesnt have ALL the Western Conference games. They're just the exclusive home for the Western Conference Finals, and ESPN has the Eastern Conference Finals this year. In Rounds 1 and 2, both networks show both conferences.

[hitmantb]

Memphis got Tony Allen, very dirty player, and generally a much more physical team. Would much rather have Tony Allen try to hurt Westbrook instead of Parker, with a bit of luck they can do quite a bit of physical damage to thunder.

Neither will actually beat Thunder barring major injuries, rather have the team that can do most physical damage on Westbrook.

I also think Memphis would have easily finished ahead of Dallas if Gasol didn't go down. They are a better team than their record indicates.

[EP Money Man]

93-93 13 secs left griz ball

[SpurPadre]

LOL, both teams are playing like it's Game 7 in the Finals right now. None of them want to play us.

[EP Money Man]

Overtime. Classic.

[MR-Clutch]

I would rather thunder play grizzlies as the grizz match up well with them. We will sweep either team.

[MR-Clutch]

Both teams are playing hard to avoid us right now.

[Horry Hipcheck]

LOL, both teams are playing like it's Game 7 in the Finals right now. None of them want to play us.

Both probably have to like how they match up with OKC pretty well, too. Neither will pull off the upset but they know they're more likely to do damage to the Thunder.

[TheRemix]

Looks like were getting memphis tbh

[TheRemix]

Monta ellis exploding

[Horry Hipcheck]

Looks like were getting memphis tbh

I'm fine with it. Dallas could make noise against OKC.

[FromWayDowntown]

Memphis had this until Conley decided to bowl over Harris late in the 4th at +3. Grizz gonna squander this and get some Fiesta next week.

[Horry Hipcheck]

Aaaaaand Memphis ties the game.

[Cry Havoc]

Dirk goes KABOOM

[DatBoyGood]

Conley about to choke.

[DatBoyGood]

Take that back :lol oh well Memphis can beat up on OKC and frustrate KD and Westbrook

[$pursDynasty]

obviously they both want that 50 win season and do NOT want to play the Spurs.

[$pursDynasty]

Danny better get a lot of sleep so he is ready to check Ellis. IF Memphis holds on to win. Dirk will be Dirk

[crc21209]

This shit is really coming down to the wire...:lol

[Russ]

OKC pulls it out at the end. Mavs lose at the end.

Every year, on the last day, every f**ing game goes wrong.

Every year.

2003 an inside straight had to happen for the Spurs to get the three-time defending champ Lakers in the 2d round. And they did.

(Of course, the Spurs did win the title that year.)

[superjames1992]

Dallas, it is.

[DatBoyGood]

BIG D it is!

[Biernutz]

it's Dallas

[crc21209]

That dude Monta not as clutch as Dirk...

[Beaverfuzz]

Got who we wanted. Reverse jinx wins again!

[$pursDynasty]

man ellis got his shot just missed

[Russ]

OKC just got the red carpet to the WCF. (Memphis rather than Dallas in the 1st round, HCA vs. Clips in the 2d round.)

[ironman2886]

The 50 win excuse is BS. Both teams didn't want the Spurs.

[Horry Hipcheck]

Ahhh. Another classic entry to the Spurs-Mavs playoff saga.

[SpurPadre]

Dallas is preferable, tbh. Travel is easier, less bruising play, and we own them just as much as we own the Grizzlies, who will give OKC a bruising. All good.

[Horry Hipcheck]

OKC just got the red carpet to the WCF.

Lol how so? Because they won't face the Mavs? Please. Neither Dallas nor Memphis would have beaten them and they still have to deal with the Clips in the second round, if all teams make it.

[ironman2886]

OKC just got the red carpet to the WCF. (Memphis rather than Dallas in the 1st round, HCA vs. Clips in the 2d round.)
Clippers aren't going to be a walk in the park for them.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

MEM just beat DAL, so DAL is our first rd opponent.

I'm happy with that - I think we will beat DAL handily. I also think we would win the series against MEM, but they'd beat us up a lot more which is something we don't need.

[TheRemix]

Lol dallas It is. Easy series

[Johnny RIngo]

OKC pulls it out at the end. Mavs lose at the end.

Every year, on the last day, every f**ing game goes wrong.

Every year.

How is this bad for us? Spurs won't have much trouble with Dallas.

[Fireball]

This game showed neither team wanted a part of the Spurs. No cocky confidence when Dallas comes to San Antonio and less physical series (also less travelin) than against Memphis. Lets go ...

[MR-Clutch]

I would rather thunder play grizzlies as the grizz match up well with them. We will sweep either team.

[timtonymanu]

Yeah I don't want Tony Allen's bitch ass trying to hurt our guys.

Spurs Mavs it is.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

OKC just got the red carpet to the WCF. (Memphis rather than Dallas in the 1st round, HCA vs. Clips in the 2d round.)

That makes no sense to me. MEM will pound on OKC all series, as will the Clips. That is no easy road.

[Beaverfuzz]

OKC just got the red carpet to the WCF. (Memphis rather than Dallas in the 1st round, HCA vs. Clips in the 2d round.)



Huh? Slippers are beating OKC no matter who has HCA. Wake up and sniff the cocaine.

[SpurPadre]

Yeah I don't want Tony Allen's bitch ass trying to hurt our guys.

Spurs Mavs it is.

Unfortunately, it looks like we'll have Beverley's bitch ass trying to hurt our guys in the 2nd round, tbh.

[TVI]

I hope the Spurs aren't taking Dallas lightly. They got enough talent to make it a tough series. Monta is getting more comfortable in their system, and Dirk is still Dirk. I hope Parker is healthy because he plays well against Dallas.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I'm not at all worried about the Dallas series, but HOU in the second round (if they beat POR) is a bit of a concern. I know we have the better team, but our inability to beat them during the regular season was odd, and Harden just loves beating the SPurs and seems to be one of those players who gives us trouble (even though his 4-16 the other night against our bench was pathetic).

[ElNono]

I hope the Spurs aren't taking Dallas lightly. They got enough talent to make it a tough series. Monta is getting more comfortable in their system, and Dirk is still Dirk. I hope Parker is healthy because he plays well against Dallas.

I hope they take them lightly AND sweep them...

[timtonymanu]

I hope the Spurs aren't taking Dallas lightly. They got enough talent to make it a tough series. Monta is getting more comfortable in their system, and Dirk is still Dirk. I hope Parker is healthy because he plays well against Dallas.

Playoffs are here. Our team is done coasting. They're ready.

[TVI]

OKC pulls it out at the end. Mavs lose at the end.

Every year, on the last day, every f**ing game goes wrong.

Every year. Meh. From my perspective, this worked out pretty good for the Spurs. Neither team was going to be a cakewalk, but Memphis is better than their record indicates. They play tough defense, and sometimes get downright dirty. Dallas has some players that can get hot, but there's less chance of getting an injury playing against those guys. Let the Grizz pound on Oklahoma for a series, and then let OKC go seven against the Clipps.

[look_at_g_shred]

I hope they take them lightly AND sweep them...
Taking teams lightly can develop bad habits going forward. Having said that, I don't think they will. It's the playoffs, and we have some unfinished business.

[ElNono]

Taking teams lightly can develop bad habits going forward. Having said that, I don't think they will. It's the playoffs, and we have some unfinished business.

plus I was being facetious...

[DAF86]

Dallas, easily. I have no idea why some users would prefer Memphis.

Because of matchups. Memphis can't shoot for shit, we swept them last year and this year they suck even more. Dallas is the second best 3pt shooting team in the NBA and Dirk always plays well against us, I'm sure there will be at least 1, maybe 2 games in the series against them where they shoot lights out and beat us. Against Memphis it would have probably been a sweep.

[DAF86]

Another reason why I would have rather play Memphis is 'cause that way OKC would have had to face the Mavs against whom they had a lot of problems this season.

[DubMcDub]

Answer should be Dallas. Very unlikely the Mavs even win a game, and if they do, it'll be just one. Even if Dirk goes for 30 every game (unlikely), the Spurs will get just about whatever they need back from the Mavs' D.

Just keeping it real.

(Note: I'm not factoring in whether Memphis or Dallas would be a tougher out for OKC, although I think the answer there is probably Dallas.)

[Biernutz]

Games 1 in SAT... Sunday at noon.....Game 2 in SAT...Wed. at 7PM.......Game 3...in Dallas on Sat 3:30Pm....Game 4...in Dallas Mon. 8:30.....

[scanry]

Games 1 in SAT... Sunday at noon.....Game 2 in SAT...Wed. at 7PM.......Game 3...in Dallas on Sat 3:30Pm....Game 4...in Dallas Mon. 8:30.....

2 days of rest in between the first 3 games.

[superbigtime]

Starting off with a noon game is going to be tough. Seriously.

[DAF86]

lol most of you morons that picked Dallas. If these were the Grizzlies we would be up 20 and resting the starters since the midway point of the 3rd.

[Mel_13]

lol most of you morons that picked Dallas. If these were the Grizzlies we would be up 20 and resting the starters since the midway point of the 3rd.

:wakeup

[Horry Hipcheck]

I regret picking Memphis. I mean, I'm confident the Spurs would have won a series against them, but Memphis smells blood in the water against OKC and they look dangerous as hell.

[DAF86]

:wakeup

That was a clear desperate jinx attempt, tbh.

Still, I do believe the Grizzlies would have been an easier out.

[Aztecfan03]

I regret picking Memphis. I mean, I'm confident the Spurs would have won a series against them, but Memphis smells blood in the water against OKC and they look dangerous as hell.

which is the reason why many people wanted spurs to play Dallas.

[Horry Hipcheck]

which is the reason why many people wanted spurs to play Dallas.

I saw Dallas as an athletic matchup problem, and Dirk is Dirk. The Spurs haven't had a real problem with Memphis since 2011, so naturally I assumed they'd be a pushover. Maybe they would be still. They sure don't look like it right now though.

[Mel_13]

I regret picking Memphis. I mean, I'm confident the Spurs would have won a series against them, but Memphis smells blood in the water against OKC and they look dangerous as hell.

I think a lot of people were influenced by those 2 Dallas wins over OKC in March, but OKC was down 3 starters in the first game and down 2 starters on the back end of a B2B in the second game. Before that, they had beaten Dallas 11 times in a row. Meanwhile, Memphis not only eliminated OKC last season (without Westbrook) but they took them to 7 games in 2011. That OKC team had the same 5 starters as this year's team plus Harden as 6th man. Memphis is clearly capable of giving OKC a better fight than Dallas ever could.

[rmt]

Go Memphis!

[DAF86]

Sup?

[spursfan1000]

Sup?
Dallas is a far better matchup.

[DAF86]

Dallas is a far better matchup.

How?

[slick'81]

Neither Dallas or Memphis are your typical 7 or 8th seed both are gonna be tough outs it looks like

[DAF86]

Seriously all of you fucking morons tell me how the fuck so.

We swept a better in-form Grizzlies team last year. Yes they have a good defense but they don't have the firepower to keep up with a team with as many weapons as the Spurs.

Dallas has the second best 3 pt shooting team in the NBA and a Spurs killer in Dirk (he hasn't gone off yet :lol). Yes, they don't have as good a defense but they have Carlisle who is great at adjusting and coming up with defensive schemes. Besides that, there's the little rivalry thing. I thought Spurs fans would know better than to think Dallas was going to be easier than Memphis.

[DAF86]

:wakeup

:wakeup

[DAF86]

I have to go but before I do that...

lol all of you fucking ignorant morons.

[Johnny RIngo]

lol most of you morons that picked Dallas. If these were the Grizzlies we would be up 20 and resting the starters since the midway point of the 3rd.

lol at arguing about Dallas or Memphis. If Spurs were as good as their record, they shouldn't be worried about who they play in the first round.

Besides, Parker's been resting all season. How much rest does the fucker need?

[u4lakers14]

sup?

[poo-doe wayne-o]

not much. sup wit u?

[DAF86]

How I wish we would be playing a worse 3pt shooting team, tbh.

[romsho]

Disagree. OKC matches up VERY well with Memphis due to their bigs being able to somewhat contain Memphis. Meanwhile, the Thunder have NO answer for Dirk. None. Not even close. Dirk shits on everyone including Thabo.

OKC - Memphis is done in 5-6

OKC - Dallas goes AT LEAST 6, IMO.

You sure?

[rascal]

lol at arguing about Dallas or Memphis. If Spurs were as good as their record, they shouldn't be worried about who they play in the first round.

Besides, Parker's been resting all season. How much rest does the fucker need?

Spurs are lucky they got Dallas. Memphis will do the dirty work of finishing off OK City. The Spurs were not going to beat OK City.

[Cry Havoc]

You sure?

I didn't expect Durant to completely wither. No one did. This series is really damn close even with Durant and Westbrook being liabilities on offense.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I didn't expect Durant to completely wither. No one did. This series is really damn close even with Durant and Westbrook being liabilities on offense.

Memphis is downright physical and they are wearing OKC out. This is exactly what I wanted the Spurs to avoid in the 1st round. Dallas has been playing their asses off, but they aren't even close to the physical levels Memphis plays.

Even Portland or the Rockets aren't as physical of a team. They are fast pace high scoring teams. Probably the most physical team in the entire playoffs are the Grizz and the Spurs won't have to face them until the WCF, if both teams advance that far.

[Cry Havoc]

Memphis is downright physical and they are wearing OKC out. This is exactly what I wanted the Spurs to avoid in the 1st round. Dallas has been playing their asses off, but they aren't even close to the physical levels Memphis plays.

Even Portland or the Rockets aren't as physical of a team. They are fast pace high scoring teams. Probably the most physical team in the entire playoffs are the Grizz and the Spurs won't have to
face them until the WCF, if both teams advance that far.

Sure.

That said, we swept them a year ago. And I think we're better now than we were then. Dallas had been anything but a pushover and actually have some defensive weapons as well, and are MUCH more dangerous on offense. Our D was good enough to just prevent the Grizzlies from getting reliable production last year.

[Johnny RIngo]

Sure.

That said, we swept them a year ago. And I think we're better now than we were then. Dallas had been anything but a pushover and actually have some defensive weapons as well, and are MUCH more dangerous on offense. Our D was good enough to just prevent the Grizzlies from getting reliable production last year.

No ,we're not. We had two top-ten players last year in Duncan and Parker. Duncan's clearly not as effective this year (though still damn good considering his age). Parker hasn't been a top ten point guard all year, let alone a top ten player. His decline hurts the Spurs the most since this system is built around him. Put last year's Parker on this year's team and we'd be well on our way to sweeping Dallas. Mavs are a decent team(anybody that wins 50 games is) but Spurs are only struggling against them because TP sucks right now. Pop's less than stellar coaching isn't helping either.

[Raven]

pointless discussion is pointless, both teams showed much more strength than expected.

[Raven]

Sure.

That said, we swept them a year ago. And I think we're better now than we were then. Dallas had been anything but a pushover and actually have some defensive weapons as well, and are MUCH more dangerous on offense. Our D was good enough to just prevent the Grizzlies from getting reliable production last year.

well, that doesn't make any sense tbh

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Sure.

That said, we swept them a year ago. And I think we're better now than we were then. Dallas had been anything but a pushover and actually have some defensive weapons as well, and are MUCH more dangerous on offense. Our D was good enough to just prevent the Grizzlies from getting reliable production last year.

Two OT games and another really close one that could have gone to OT. Memphis could have easily won last year, don't forget that. But do you honestly see the Spurs getting outta of the 2nd round after having to endure a series like the one OKC is in now with them. I knew Dallas would be no cakewalk, but they aren't beating the Spurs up like Memphis would have. They just are playing with High Energy, especially the 1st 3 games, but you saw them dwindle down in game 4 and i expect to see a carryover of this into game 5. Look at my previous thread, this is exactly what I called. They won't be able to hang with the Spurs especially now the games only have 1 game off in between.

Just like last year, if the Spurs did have to face the Grizz, I hope it was in the WCF. Having to play the most physical team in the playoffs in the 1st round is something I would want the Spurs to avoid.

[romsho]

I didn't expect Durant to completely wither. No one did. This series is really damn close even with Durant and Westbrook being liabilities on offense.

It was about Memphis being the toughest matchup for OKC. Which they have been and are. Memphis would have been an easier matchup for the Spurs, but if it means OKC getting knocked out in the 1st round, then its worth it. I was just hoping for a long physical series. Might get the bonus plan.

[Oh, Gee!!]

even after 4 games of close games, I still say Dallas. Memphis is looking tough these days

[Cry Havoc]

Two OT games and another really close one that could have gone to OT. Memphis could have easily won last year, don't forget that.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda. The Spurs are about execution. You think it was a fluke that we won 3 close games? It wasn't. We had the horses to go and Memphis didn't. Look how horribly OKC is playing and remaining in games -- the Grizzlies simply don't have a ton of weapons to hurt you with. They're a VERY good basketball team but they don't have a guy that puts them over the top. Miller isn't that dude because he's not a triple threat who will burn you from anywhere, he's just a great 3 point shooter.


But do you honestly see the Spurs getting outta of the 2nd round after having to endure a series like the one OKC is in now with them.

Houston looks like shit. Dallas has been playing much better ball as of late, and the Rockets are an untested team in the post-season. Portland will be a tough matchup obviously, but just because we are struggling against the Mavs doesn't mean much. We won a title one year going 4-2 every single series.


I knew Dallas would be no cakewalk, but they aren't beating the Spurs up like Memphis would have. They just are playing with High Energy, especially the 1st 3 games, but you saw them dwindle down in game 4 and i expect to see a carryover of this into game 5. Look at my previous thread, this is exactly what I called. They won't be able to hang with the Spurs especially now the games only have 1 game off in between.

Matchups. I don't understand how Memphis has suddenly become a team that's too physical for the Spurs when we swept them last year. What, was the Grindhouse just not a physical team last year or something?


Just like last year, if the Spurs did have to face the Grizz, I hope it was in the WCF. Having to play the most physical team in the playoffs in the 1st round is something I would want the Spurs to avoid.

Well, we won't play the Griz until the WCF. And Griz Clips, if it happens, will be a barnburner.


It was about Memphis being the toughest matchup for OKC. Which they have been and are. Memphis would have been an easier matchup for the Spurs, but if it means OKC getting knocked out in the 1st round, then its worth it. I was just hoping for a long physical series. Might get the bonus plan.

Perhaps. They're definitely giving them a run for the money. I just thought Durant had evolved more as a player than what has actually happened. Dude is getting bodied by a 6'4" SG. It's unreal. Shades of Dirk in 2007. But Dirk seems way more calm under that kind of pressure than Durant is. And Westbrook is a fucking cancer to that team right now.

[hater]

Memphs would be wipping that ass. We dodged a bullet. Stilk this series is far from over

[DAF86]

even after 4 games of close games, I still say Dallas. Memphis is looking tough these days

Against a team that doesn't know how to play them.

[Cry Havoc]

Against a team that doesn't know how to play them.

Seriously, the Thunder are the most mentally weak "contender" the NBA has seen in a long time. They're supposed to have 2 of the 5 best players in the league and they can't get it done against a 7 seed.

[DAF86]

Game 7. Fuck your colective ignrorant asses.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Shit. Now i dont know

[DAF86]

Seriously guys, fuck your fat, not knowing, ignorant asses. Prefering Dallas over a team that can't shoot. Bunch of idiots. :lol

[DAF86]

None of you pussies are going to come here and accept the ignorance?