Phil Jackson zings San Antonio

[Budkin]

:rolleyes Let this argument rage again... are we or are we not a dynasty? PJ says no, obviously.


Phil Jackson is the Knicks’ president now, but he couldn’t help himself from taking a little shot at the San Antonio Spurs, one of his chief rivals when he coached the Lakers.

Jackson was talking about wanting Carmelo Anthony to take less money in free agency in order for the Knicks to have more flexibility. He cited Tim Duncan, who has done it in San Antonio to help keep the Spurs together and contending.

But right after Jackson praised the Spurs, he retracted his statement and gave them a little zing.

“Tim Duncan making the salary he's making after being part of a dynasty - not a dynasty, I wouldn't call San Antonio a dynasty -- a force, a great force,” Jackson said. “They haven't been able to win consecutive championships but they've always been there. San Antonio has had a wonderful run through Tim's tenure there as a player. He's agreed to take a salary cut so other players can play with him so they can be this good. And that's the beginning of team play.”
Jackson guided the Lakers to five titles - a three-peat and one back-to-back – in 11 seasons as coach. They beat the Spurs four times in the playoffs under Jackson and were beaten once by San Antonio.

The Spurs have won four titles since 1999, almost won their fifth last season and had the best record in the NBA this season.

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[Kool Bob Love]

Phil Jackson fuck off you damn hippie.

[hater]

he's got a great point. But even an unbiased person like me sees the dynasty. Most winning franchise in the past 20 years, 4 times champions, most winning coach, 2nd most winning big 3 in history. There are no if ands or buts. It's a dynasty.

I see no big problem with what he said. BUT uttering Carmelo in the same sentence as Duncan now.... :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao v

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

& I wouldn't call Phil a great coach.

Pippen, Jordan, Rodman, Grant, Kobe, Shaq, Malone, GP. Del Negro could win a title with that.

[Walton Buys Off Me]

What's that saying about imitation and flattery?

[HemisfairArena]

4 Titles in the Duncan era is a dynasty,,,,saying we didn't defend a title so we arent is just semantics.

[BillMc]

Whether he's wrong or right, there's a condescending smugness from Phil that makes me hate him. Even back in his Bulls days, when there was no rivalry with the Spurs, and therefore I had no reason to hate him, I still hated him. Hope he crashes and burns with the Knicks.

That said, he is a hell of a coach though.

[justinandimcool]

:lol who gives a fuck :lol

[baseline bum]

Whether he's wrong or right, there's a condescending smugness from Phil that makes me hate him. Even back in his Bulls days, when there was no rivalry with the Spurs, and therefore I had no reason to hate him, I still hated him. Hope he crashes and burns with the Knicks.

That said, he is a hell of a coach though.

Phil don't give a shit if he crashes and burns in New York, as he's getting paid huge money in a last NBA job either way.

[cd98]

As there is not a universally accepted definition of a dynasty in sports, his opinion is just as self serving as Spurs fans.

[Budkin]

Even though Phil likes to troll Pop and the Spurs, he still respects the hell out of them. It's obvious.

[BatManu20]

Phillip's just salty his last coaching gig ended in a 2nd round sweep tbh. Even with Kobe, Bynum, and Gasol he got broomed by a team with one All-Star.

Na he's always taken jabs at the Spurs though. Just part of the rivalry. He also picked us to beat Miami last year though.

[Joseph Kony]

lol he said dynasty first then corrected himself. Just Phil trolling, nothing to see here

[gameFACE]

Phil aside since he's taking pot shots, I would say SA was a dynasty from 03-'07. After that no.

[NASpurs]

:lol people here last year were kissing his ass after he complimented the Spurs

[RD2191]

3 titles in 5 years is a dynasty.

[weeks]

it's hard to hate phil, he's such a smug jackass. he's earned it, the prick.

[IrisHockey]

In what sport is 3 titles in 5-6 years not a dynasty? :lol...

[BillMc]

As successful as he has been and despite the championships Phil has brought to their organizations, it is interesting to note how much both Jerry Krause and Jerry Reinsdorf and then the Buss family members not named Jeanie, all seemed to hate him.

[Juggity]

Phil lashes out passively aggressively when feeling threatened tbh.

[Arcadian]

Bullshit. First of all they should have won 5 straight titles 03-07. Even still, they were the most dominant team for most of the last decade and refused to die in the current decade. So yes it's a dynasty, fuck you, period.

[spurraider21]

I wouldn't call Phil a great coach.
:lmao

[ohmwrecker]

Yeah, he really burned 'em with that one. Wicked . . .

[spurraider21]

Bullshit. First of all they should have won 5 straight titles 03-07. Even still, they were the most dominant team for most of the last decade and refused to die in the current decade. So yes it's a dynasty, fuck you, period.
that literally means nothing. there's getting it done, and there's not getting it done

[Hoops Czar]

Must be a silent zing. That or people don't know how to take compliments.

[Mal]

& I wouldn't call Phil a great coach.

Pippen, Jordan, Rodman, Grant, Kobe, Shaq, Malone, GP. Del Negro could win a title with that.

Malone didnt ring

[Mikeanaro]

Malone didnt ring
But he tried to finger Kobe´s wife ring that must be something.

[Arcadian]

that literally means nothing. there's getting it done, and there's not getting it done

Disagree - if you're a contender 5 years in a row, that means a lot.

By that logic, the 2013 Spurs would be equal to the 97 Spurs because they both "didn't get it done." It's a false dichotomy.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lmao

Notice the chink didn't quote the second part of my post ^

[spurraider21]

Notice the chink didn't quote the second part of my post ^
a) chink? :lmao
b) i didn't need to. after a moronic statement like that, anything after that is just blablablabla

seriously though. first of all, i've made my nationality publicly known tbh, so if u want to use nationality as a diss, at least get it right
secondly, annoucning somebody's nationality isn't a diss. calling harlem canadian isn't a diss. calling me chinese (which is just wrong) isn't a diss.

[spurraider21]

Disagree - if you're a contender 5 years in a row, that means a lot.

By that logic, the 2013 Spurs would be equal to the 97 Spurs because they both "didn't get it done." It's a false dichotomy.
being a contender is one thing. saying :cry they should have won those years :cry is different

[TD 21]

& I wouldn't call Phil a great coach.

Pippen, Jordan, Rodman, Grant, Kobe, Shaq, Malone, GP. Del Negro could win a title with that.

As if coaching great talent automatically disqualifies someone from being considered a great coach. Obviously great talent is the main ingredient in championship teams (with the odd exception, such as the '04 Pistons), so a coach can almost never win without it, but it's not as simple as that. If it were, the Lakers would have won it in '04 and the Heat in '11.

Despite his history, I don't really see this as a shot at the Spurs, so much as it is an antiquated mindset. Professional sports are a lot different today than they were 10-20 years ago, from the constant turnover in personnel to the immense scrutiny, etc. In this day and age, 3 championships and sustained excellence for the better part of a decade constitutes a dynasty and the fact that the Spurs have eclipsed both thresholds easily makes them that. You'll see a team go back-to-back many times over before you see a comparable to them.

[Sybok]

There's not been a dynasty since the Chinese ones way back when Culburn was a pup. Not counting the sand crickets.

[jag]

That Phil Jackson coaching tree speaks volumes.

[Reck]

Good old Phil think like most fans. If you dont win consecutive titles=default on it not being a dynasty.

You dont domininate and win 4 championship in a 10 year span and not call it a dynasty franchise. At least with the Duncan era for sure.

[Mark in Austin]

Just Phil being Phil. Nothing new.

[xmas1997]

I have never ever liked the man.

[BatManu20]

Phillip upset about his weight gain tbh.

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[HemisfairArena]

Plus, Phil got fat.

459030528487067648

He's making 12 mil/yr and bangin' an ex-Playboy model who owns half of the Lakers,,,,,life is good for him.

[jag]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bl7KF_WCIAA0XTJ.jpg

Phillip needs to add some squats and deadlifts to his routine. That should help balance out his abdominal and chest gains.

[UZER]

Phil lashes out passively aggressively when feeling threatened tbh.


:lol just like laker fan

[Prime Time]

3 titles in 4 years. There's no arguing tbh.

[cjw]

& I wouldn't call Phil a great coach.

Pippen, Jordan, Rodman, Grant, Kobe, Shaq, Malone, GP. Del Negro could win a title with that.

The last two of those don't belong when talking about his successes (well, Payton did win with Miami a few years later). Actually, pretty embarrassing that team couldn't win more than a game against a relatively unheralded Pistons team.

[The_Worlds_finest]

http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4339033/Phil-Jackson-Coaching-Tree.png

[td4mvp2k]

:lol people here last year were kissing his ass after he complimented the Spurs

:lol spurfan

[200 miles]

He's making 12 mil/yr and bangin' an ex-Playboy model who owns half of the Lakers,,,,,life is good for him.

:lol

[JohnRambo]

LOL. Who is Phil Jackson?

[hsxvvd]

I'm going to have to take your first answer on that one Phil.

[hsxvvd]

http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4339033/Phil-Jackson-Coaching-Tree.png

:rollin

[Dex]

Because I really give a shit what Phil Jackson thinks about San Antonio.

[heyheymymy]

& I wouldn't call Phil a great coach.

Pippen, Jordan, Rodman, Grant, Kobe, Shaq, Malone, GP. Del Negro could win a title with that.

yeah and the opposite concept works too because pop could've won a title with donyell marshall, hasheem thabeet, the spurs coyote, kwame brown, a jv middle school point guard, and jeff ayres.

jackson had it good but pop does more with less which makes him better imho

[lefty]

Haha Phil is AWESOME.

LOL sensitive Sperms fans

[lefty]

http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4339033/Phil-Jackson-Coaching-Tree.png

Yeah because Pop's coaching tree is so much better

[TampaDude]

The Spurs are the winningest team in all of professional sports over the past 16 years. Fuck yes they are a dynasty.

[exstatic]

http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4339033/Phil-Jackson-Coaching-Tree.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bl7KF_WCIAA0XTJ.jpg

[exstatic]

Yeah because Pop's coaching tree is so much better

Actually, it is. Thanks for pointing it out.

[Johnny RIngo]

Disagree with Phil but it's hard for me to criticize him when Pop has had his share of playoff mishaps. Getting outcoached by Avery Johnson when you had prime TD/prime Manu and homecourt advantage is pretty damn embarrassing. Gave the title away to Miami last year too.

[exstatic]

Phillip needs to realize that artificial hips have a shelf life, and eating Ben and Jerry's out of business won't help that longevity.

[The_Worlds_finest]

Haha Phil is AWESOME.

LOL sensitive Sperms fans

Sam Presti, Doc Rivers, Avery Johnson, Danny Ferry. All have had much more successful careers post Pop

[lefty]

Actually, it is. Thanks for pointing it out.
:lol potato head
:lol whoever is coaching Philly
:lol AJ choked 2 seasons in a row
:lol but Bud - lol Leastern conference
:lol doc rivers won thanks to the big 3, not doing better than Del Nigro
:lol whoever brought up Ferry and Presti, they are not coaches

[Johnny RIngo]

SA fans always seem to have an inferiority complex arouind Phil. There's a reason he has 11 championships. Dude's the GOAT coach - has the right to talk trash. He wouldn't have lost to Avery Johnson with homecourt and prime TD/prime Manu. He also wouldn't have choked away that championship to Miami last year by sitting Tim.

[therealtruth]

SA fans always seem to have an inferiority complex arouind Phil. There's a reason he has 11 championships. Dude's the GOAT coach - has the right to talk trash. He wouldn't have lost to Avery Johnson with homecourt and prime TD/prime Manu. He also wouldn't have choked away that championship to Miami last year by sitting Tim.

This. Pop coaches scared and it shows in the results.

[EVAY]

Phil Jackson is a poor sport. He is the poorest sport I have ever seen in a coaching level.

He is also petty and arrogant. His good fortune with coaching the highest caliber stars of his eras does not make him a decent human being.

He is a very small, very mean (indicating small) charactered man.

Next to the definition of low-class in the dictionary is a picture of Phil Jackson.

[Pound the rock]

I would like to see him coach a team built from scratch and lead them to a ship, instead of inheriting superstars or having the luxury of ring chasers coming to him.

[jdelar03]

Who gives a good golly gosh of a fuck what PJ says he's going to go down as the greatest coach not because of his coaching, but because of his psychology and ability to control crazy ass egos with his ...bs zen.

[Kidd K]

In the end all "dynasty" is, is a word that a small amount of people decided the definition of for basketball terms. That shit wasn't voted on. So there is no defined description for it. The Rockets won b2b, but sure as hell weren't a dynasty.

Spurs taking 4 titles in 9 years and 3 in 5 plus staying a major threat for the vast majority of 18 years = dynasty imo. Jackson is just taking the one thing he has over Pop and saying it's a requirement. No doubt if SA went b2b he'd say they had to 3peat.

[Johnny RIngo]

Phil Jackson is a poor sport. He is the poorest sport I have ever seen in a coaching level.

He is also petty and arrogant. His good fortune with coaching the highest caliber stars of his eras does not make him a decent human being.

He is a very small, very mean (indicating small) charactered man.

Next to the definition of low-class in the dictionary is a picture of Phil Jackson.


SA fans always seem to have an inferiority complex arouind Phil.

[Biernutz]

Phil has this bad back thing along with his hips. It's from patting himself on the back so much.

[Sean Cagney]

Phil aside since he's taking pot shots, I would say SA was a dynasty from 03-'07. After that no.

You are fully correct, they could have won 5 in a row then, were in deep contention then.. After that NO. What happened after was just icing on the cake. They were dynasty for those years though, after that no.

[Spurs21Fan4Ever]

The Lakers were the luckiest team in NBA history. 2000 was their only legit championship with Kobe and Shaq. 2001 Duncan injured, and 2002 Derek Anderson injured and they need the refs to literally cheat to beat Sacramento. Spurs or Sacramento should've won in 2002 no doubt, but the Luckers got lucky.

[Johnsyounger]

I will enjoy watching Phil fail with the Knicks, almost as much as the Lakers sucking for the rest of Kobes tenure.....See what Phil does with Melo, so far he's talking to Odom :lmao

[Thebesteva]

Phil Jackson fuck off you damn hippie.

He's right technically Kanye lover. Spurs are a great team, but have been unable to win back to back in order to be called a dynasty. Most dont even refer to that Lakers team as a dynasty. The word is grossly overused now a days anyway