so who is to blame for this epic loss?

[HI-FI]

ideas? complaints?

[gilmor]

TONY PARKER

[benstanfield]

Pop.

[poop]

The basketball gods

[3 Legged Dog]

Officiating

[Horry Hipcheck]

Obviously, not getting a solid contribution from Mills overall hurt, as did another big day for Ellis.

However, it's easy to overlook the fact that the Spurs made an amazing string of clutch plays late.

[Mugen]

Pop tbhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[SpursRock20]

Vince Carter. He made a great shot to win it. Spurs played a helluva game but didn't find a way to win it, no biggie. Just got to go out and get the next one.

[Chewbacca]

http://i60.tinypic.com/2ptoyz5.jpg

[The Reckoning]

god

[Mal]

both teams played hard

[hater]

Ginobili tbh

terrible D on Carter

[Darius Bieber]

Obama

[siraulo23]

tony parker

and pop's inability to be decisive on their defensive scheme on ellis' pick and rolls

[Malik Hairston]

1. Pop
2. Defense(which is partly Pop's fault)


Parker was out of gas, can't fault him after playing so well in the 1st half..

Vince Carter is one of the best tough-shot makers and game-winning shot makers in NBA history, he made a great shot, the game wasn't lost on 1 possession..

[Skull-1]

Manu of course...again.


Forget the terrible defense on the three at the end (surprised he didn't foul...again). His last three attempt (brick) when we were up by five (early in the shot clock...again....as usual) when a two seals the game....let Dallas back in it.

Per par.

[Boomersgold]

Pop tbhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Why Pop? He can't be blamed for Carter's flukey three? (And neither can Manu)

[kuato]

San Antonio management for not getting Scola

[Mugen]

Why Pop? He can't be blamed for Carter's flukey three? (And neither can Manu)

His gameplan and subsequent adjustment or lack thereof tbh have really killed the team so far. The rotation is completely shot.

Carlisle has badly outcoached him so far.

[Expert]

Manu of course...again.


Forget the terrible defense on the three at the end (surprised he didn't foul again). His last three attempt (brick) when we were up by five (early in the shot clock, as usual) when a two seals the game....let Dallas back in it.

So a two seals the game but Manu scored two after that and the Spurs lost. How does a 2 seal the game?

[daslicer]

I blame it on bad luck. Its not Manu's fault he did a great job guarding that shot its a shot that 9 out of 10 times Carter misses but this time it came in.

[Nathan89]

Coach Bud the true genius behind the Spurs strategies.

[UZER]

Sad to say, Bonner WAS actually spacing the floor this game when he came in. Helped the spurs regain control in the 4th.

[Skull-1]

So a two seals the game but Manu scored two after that and the Spurs lost. How does a 2 seal the game?


Because then we are up by five with 1:40 to play. Instead Dallas went the other way.

[poop]

BONNER

[HI-FI]

His gameplan and subsequent adjustment or lack thereof tbh have really killed the team so far. The rotation is completely shot.

Carlisle has badly outcoached him so far.
IF Spurs lose this, Pop needs to retire. You just don't blow shit like this after last year's Finals.

[UZER]

I blame it on bad luck. Its not Manu's fault he did a great job guarding that shot its a shot that 9 out of 10 times Carter misses but this time it came in.

9-10 times he misses, 6% chance the thunder come back, 1% they lose game six.


Those things seem to keep happening to this team..

[Boomersgold]

BONNER
Nah, Bonner played surprisingly well in the few minutes that he was on the floor. Didn't do anything bad on the defensive end, and hit a jumpshot on the other end.

[DD]

Manu. He had another 1.5 seconds to work with before he shot.

[dallasmaverickslose]

TE

[ElNono]

tony parker

and pop's inability to be decisive on their defensive scheme on ellis' pick and rolls

[Expert]

Because then we are up by seven with 1:40 to play. Instead Dallas went the other way.

Dallas scored 5 in a row. How's the 7 make the game sealed?

[TheRemix]

just knew manu should've waited a second longer before making his clutch layup

[wildchild]

Pop


Vince Carter is one of the best tough-shot makers and game-winning shot makers in NBA history, he made a great shot, the game wasn't lost on 1 possession..

Ray Allen, too. So we have a case.

[Expert]

Manu. He had another 1.5 seconds to work with before he shot.

I knew before he did it that he went too soon. Still, I'll take that 2pt lead with 1.7 seconds on the clock any day of the week over going into overtime with all the fouls being called.

[UZER]

His gameplan and subsequent adjustment or lack thereof tbh have really killed the team so far. The rotation is completely shot.

Carlisle has badly outcoached him so far.

Pop always panics with the rotations. Its either "we just keep doing what we do" and they run off the cliff, or he panics ands starts playing crazy lineups. Why no green on Ellis? Why keep going under the screen on Ellis?

[Skull-1]

Dallas scored 5 in a row. How's the 7 make the game sealed?


100-97. Spurs had the ball. Manu bricks with 15 on the clock at 1:45. Dallas goes the other way. Four-point swing plus time left for Dallas at the end. We get two there we are up by five instead of one. Game over.

Manu has no discipline and his three ball sux.

There was no way he would make that three. He should have passed it.



And nice back court toss to the invisible man, too. Wtf?

[ElNono]

Vince hit a great shot... but the Spurs can't just be in that position... Manu carried is in the 4th today... Timmy was pretty good all game...

It's not about one possession, it never is. We had piss poor transition defense for stretches... and we keep on getting killed by scrubs like Calderon and Brandan Wright... that has to change...

[Spurs_Be_Beastin']

Manu was a little late getting to vc tbh, he should've been on him tighter. He was behind Vc chasing him and that's why bit on the pumpfake.
You have to be face guarding everyone in that position, stay In Front of your man.
Manu should've been in front of him with a hand up

[ElNono]

At least we now know Manu will probably start the next game, tbh...

[Brazil]

:lol at blaming ginobili

[wildchild]

TE

We need a OP winner thread next game!! (Please not Amundcurse or a guy like him).

[DarrinS]

Maybe someone can get some stats on Danny Green for the series? MF is MIA.

[Hoops Czar]

The bench defense has been atrocious and Mills and Green are MIA. Fluke shot or no fluke shot, the Spurs have been burned by end of quarter ahots all season long.

[Hoops Czar]

At least we now know Manu will probably start the next game, tbh...
If the Spurs want bench production, they won't.

[ElNono]

If the Spurs want bench production, they won't.

Pop "adjustment"

[ginobilized]

I will go against the grain and blame Dallas

they flat out wanted it more, they played their asses off

Spurs are not playing well, sucks, but true

[rmt]

Why did Parker play only 33 minutes - this is the playoffs - they're in a dogfight. What is Pop doing having Parker on the bench in crunchtime?

[AFBlue]

Vince Carter. He made a great shot to win it. Spurs played a helluva game but didn't find a way to win it, no biggie. Just got to go out and get the next one.

+1 tbqh

[DarrinS]

Danny Green has 9 points in 3 games

[Hoops Czar]

Pop "adjustment"

Mills and Belinelli can't run the offense so unless you're suggesting Parker off the bench ( not happening), I don't see how this can be an adjustment for the better. You don't overreact to a one point loss. The Spurs will be fine.

[DD]

Danny Green has 9 points in 3 games
DPG21920, would you say those are scrub-like #'s? Btw, big-ups to your other "non-scrubs" (Mills and Beli)--they are definitely defending your argument this postseason.

[Virgil]

San Antonio management for not getting Scola

We would be sad because we weren´t be getting our 8th ring.

[jbspurs]

1. Pop
2. Defense(which is partly Pop's fault)


Parker was out of gas, can't fault him after playing so well in the 1st half..

Vince Carter is one of the best tough-shot makers and game-winning shot makers in NBA history, he made a great shot, the game wasn't lost on 1 possession..


Parker was out of gas for dribbling too much..

[Virgil]

Douchebags fans (ours)

[DPG21920]

DPG21920, would you say those are scrub-like #'s? Btw, big-ups to your other non-scrubs (Mills and Beli)--they are definitely defending your argument this postseason.

Silly argument. Where was that last year? This series over?

[timtonymanu]

DPG21920, would you say those are scrub-like #'s?

Green isn't even the worst of the bunch, imo. Patty Mills looks like a playoff choker. Belinelli is just awful. Diaw is reverting back to being a lazy fatass.

Green is going to have his scrubby games shooting since he isn't getting his touches.

Looks like your theory about the Spurs needing talent to win is looking right so far. :lol But that was what worried me going into the playoffs.

[Ozballer]

Q2 team effort (lack of)...they got blown by the Mavs. They gave 1Qtr of basketball away. The other 3 Qtrs the Spurs were on top. Long story short, you do not get a sense that the Spurs (players) want it hard enough this year if the are not mentally ready to compete hard for the entire match. However, the second half was the best half of BBall they've played all series. Therefore, this could be a turn of events?...

[DarrinS]

Later -- I'm going to go get pissed (drunk)

[Boomersgold]

If the Spurs want bench production, they won't.
Actually, this would elevate their performance. Manu on the floor forces Mills to play the catch and shoot role, and so far, he looks really uncomfortable playing it. All of his best performances this season (in our wins against Clippers, Blazers, Bobcats) have come from him creating the offense.

[Diego20]

The bench except for Manu.

[lurker]

Rick Carlisle

[DD]

Silly argument. Where was that last year? This series over?

Well, last year Beli wasn't on the Spurs, Patti was waving a towel, and Green went AWOL in the 2 most pivotal games of the series. So....

[DarrinS]

Green isn't even the worst of the bunch, imo. Patty Mills looks like a playoff choker. Belinelli is just awful. Diaw is reverting back to being a lazy fatass.

Green is going to have his scrubby games shooting since he isn't getting his touches.

Looks like your theory about the Spurs needing talent to win is looking right so far. :lol But that was what worried me going into the playoffs.


Is Green playing like a starter?

[timtonymanu]

Rick Carlisle

Props. This must be revenge for 2010. It's been going that way so far. :lol

[DPG21920]

Pop being outclassed. Manu & others shooting poorly making poor decisions (getting Kawhi only 8 shots, Tim 5 last game..)

[TheGoldStandard]

Pop has Shit the bed on defense all series long, too much 1 on 1 play on the offensive end. Mills and Diaw have let us down in a huge way.

The Spurs don't want it they're not hungry. They are complacent and playing like they're in the regular season

[ElNono]

Mills and Belinelli can't run the offense so unless you're suggesting Parker off the bench ( not happening), I don't see how this can be an adjustment for the better. You don't overreact to a one point loss. The Spurs will be fine.

You need to look up "humor" in google.

[DPG21920]

Well, last year Beli wasn't on the Spurs, Patti was waving a towel, and Green went AWOL in the 2 most pivotal games of the series. So....

Silly argument unless your arguing Neal isn't a scrub & Belli is on top of Green breaking record for finals 3's made in finals + spurs getting to finals.

[Boomersgold]

Actually, this would elevate their performance. Manu on the floor forces Mills to play the catch and shoot role, and so far, he looks really uncomfortable playing it. All of his best performances this season (in our wins against Clippers, Blazers, Bobcats) have come from him creating the offense.
See this for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTGQNyuS44A

[kaji157]

For me Leonard not being the great player everyone thought he was is really killing our spirit.
Silly fouls, missed FT at key times, idiotic turnovers. Seems he is a little nervous, hope he brings it next games.

[Hoops Czar]

You need to look up "humor" in google.

Right after you look up "reality".

[ElNono]

Right after you look up "reality".

dude, it was a joke. :lol

[DD]

Silly argument unless your arguing Neal isn't a scrub & Belli is on top of Green breaking record for finals 3's made in finals + spurs getting to finals.

Brah, I'm flying into D/FW tomorrow...you're driving me to the Marriott as promised, right?

[Hoops Czar]

Actually, this would elevate their performance. Manu on the floor forces Mills to play the catch and shoot role, and so far, he looks really uncomfortable playing it. All of his best performances this season (in our wins against Clippers, Blazers, Bobcats) have come from him creating the offense.

Huge difference between RS and playoff basketball. Would you entrust the second unit with a guy who's had his first real taste of playoff basketball? If anything, I'd like to see more CoJo and less Mills because I'm tired of watching Mills get abused on defense. If he's not knockig down shots, he serves little purpose.

[Hoops Czar]

dude, it was a joke. :lol


Sorry, sometimes I can't tell with you.

[SpurSwag]

Vince Carter. He made a great shot to win it. Spurs played a helluva game but didn't find a way to win it, no biggie. Just got to go out and get the next one.

I don't understand how there are different posts than this, or basketball gods, or something along those lines. We played a fine game, they just got the last good break. I can understand the collective meltdown if this were to happen in game 4 and we were down 3-1, but if we come back and get game 4 we head back to san antonio tied 2-2 with home court. It's all good everyone calm down lol

[ElNono]

Sorry, sometimes I can't tell with you.

its all good

[therealtruth]

At least we now know Manu will probably start the next game, tbh...

You think it's time for that already?

[wildchild]

For me Leonard not being the great player everyone thought he was is really killing our spirit.
Silly fouls, missed FT at key times, idiotic turnovers. Seems he is a little nervous, hope he brings it next games.

:idiot
Yeah...not Pop, not Patty, not Marco, not Green, just Leonard. He was playing better than last game, but he's really killing Spurs spirit...

[Splits]

Both teams played hard

[therealtruth]

Isn't somebody injured? We can blame it on that like Manu in '11?

[TD 21]

Why did Parker play only 33 minutes - this is the playoffs - they're in a dogfight. What is Pop doing having Parker on the bench in crunchtime?

Apparently, he was permanently gassed after going hard for one quarter, after playing twice in nine days, playing less than 30 minutes in one of those games and being babied all season.

The usual, the going get's tough and Parker is inexplicably playing limited minutes and essentially conceding the offense down the stretch to Ginobili/Duncan, as if this is the old days.


As far as the question, Pop and Parker are 1A and 1B, with the defense just behind. From the time the Mavs came back from 9 down, it seemed like they either made a field goal, got to the free throw line or got an offensive rebound and then did one of those two things damn near 90% of the time. The defense felt at least 20 points worse than the total they gave up, which was high itself.

[poeticism707]

IF Spurs lose this, Pop needs to retire. You just don't blow shit like this after last year's Finals.

Agreed.

If Pop loses the first round, to an eighth seed, with no injury excuse, I hope Holt fires him.

[therealtruth]

Agreed.

If Pop loses the first round, to an eighth seed, with no injury excuse, I hope Holt fires him.

I wouldn't go that far. But he should step down. Probably better off in some sort of advisor role.

[HemisfairArena]

Peter Holt for keeping Popovich around.

[pjjrfan]

It was a team effort, everyone made a bonehead play somewhere in that game, but overall Manu and Tim have been the guys keeping us in it. Tony's done well in the 1st half but has lost steam in the 2nd half, even in game one he had a terrific last 5 mins, but before that he couldn't repeat what he did in the first half. These guys saw something on film, they are attacking as soon as they get possession of the ball, he are letting Tony run wild but making him work and he has faded in all 3 games as the game goes on. I don't blame pop it looks like the guys are tired and slow. They are playing hard but so far the Mavs have outhustled them on just about every facet of the game.

[Expert]

100-97. Spurs had the ball. Manu bricks with 15 on the clock at 1:45. Dallas goes the other way. Four-point swing plus time left for Dallas at the end. We get two there we are up by five instead of one. Game over.

Manu has no discipline and his three ball sux.

There was no way he would make that three. He should have passed it.



And nice back court toss to the invisible man, too. Wtf?

It's not a four point swing. If there was an offensive goaltending, you might have a point. The shot could have been missed regardless of the time on the clock. Every miss is a 2 point swing. But everyone knows Manu is Tony Allen with more talent.

[doldrums]

Manu. He had another 1.5 seconds to work with before he shot.

file under stupidest post of the night

[Skull-1]

It's not a four point swing. If there was an offensive goaltending, you might have a point. The shot could have been missed regardless of the time on the clock. Every miss is a 2 point swing. But everyone knows Manu is Tony Allen with more talent.


It it is a four-point swing either way (or even five) because ten seconds come off the clock and Dallas never has a chance to win at the end. Manu is a washed up chucker who amazes with his ability to pass the ball to the fans sitting under the opposing team's basket.

[rascal]

If the spurs flame out it is the front offices fault for coming back with the same team year after year. I am tired of watching the same script year after year with the same team. This core should have been broken up years ago.

[ElNono]

If the spurs flame out it is the front offices fault for coming back with the same team year after year. I am tired of watching the same script year after year with the same team. This core should have been broken up years ago.

You can always go watch your Lakers... oh wait :lol

[baseline bum]

Gotta put it on Parker and the French National Team last summer.

[baseline bum]

LOL faggot rascal wanted to blow up a team that was 6 seconds from a title

[Mikeanaro]

I blame the frogging.

[Sean Cagney]

Rascal I know you are a Lakers fan on the low trolling, I agree with you a few times but honestly you are not mad at all the Spurs lost and you appear to be a fan trying to act like a fan of another team to troll some. I do agree at times on this series and with some things you say though, you are not upset though the Spurs are losing or lost today or the Finals last year and you know it.

[Johnny RIngo]

If the spurs flame out it is the front offices fault for coming back with the same team year after year. I am tired of watching the same script year after year with the same team. This core should have been broken up years ago.

Keeping Bonner at 4 mil was stupid...especially when it was clear that he was washed up. His salary was only partially guaranteed too. Wasting the MLE on Marco and Ayres made no sense ether. Jeff was a fucking nobody - tore his ACL and barely played in Indiana. The fucker didn't deserve anything more than the vet min and Spurs handed him a portion of the MLE. As for Marco, they should have offered him the room exception. If he accepted, great. If not, fuck him - he's not that good anyway.

[Ditty]

The basketball gods

+1

Some Spurs fan(s) must have pissed them off seriously.

[rascal]

LOL faggot rascal wanted to blow up a team that was 6 seconds from a title

Last year was a fluke lucky playoff run that needed injuries to the top competition to advance. Last year has fooled you and many others to think that team is good enough to make it back if other teams stay healthy.

The same core hasn't even been able to get to the finals since 2007 outside of the fluke of last year. The team should have been broken up years ago but conservative thinkers(not willing to take any risks and being tight fisted financially when it comes to free agents only locking up their own players to dumb contracts) like you and the Spurs management keep running out the same team year after year.

[baseline bum]

Last year was a fluke lucky playoff run that needed injuries to the top competition to advance. Last year has fooled you and many others to think that team is good enough to make it back if other teams stay healthy.

The same core hasn't even been able to get to the finals since 2007 outside of the fluke of last year. The team should have been broken up years ago but conservative thinkers(not willing to take any risks and being tight fisted financially when it comes to free agents only locking up their own players to dumb contracts) like you and the Spurs management keep running out the same team year after year.

LOL dumbass, you said years ago so the team that got 6 seconds from a title would have already been broken up.

[baseline bum]

Rascal I know you are a Lakers fan on the low trolling, I agree with you a few times but honestly you are not mad at all the Spurs lost and you appear to be a fan trying to act like a fan of another team to troll some. I do agree at times on this series and with some things you say though, you are not upset though the Spurs are losing or lost today or the Finals last year and you know it.

rascal bitched when the Spurs won the title in 03 because they were boring, were bigman-centric, and didn't run. Now that they run he bitches because they're not bigman-centric.

[rascal]

Rascal I know you are a Lakers fan on the low trolling, I agree with you a few times but honestly you are not mad at all the Spurs lost and you appear to be a fan trying to act like a fan of another team to troll some. I do agree at times on this series and with some things you say though, you are not upset though the Spurs are losing or lost today or the Finals last year and you know it.

I am not trying to act anything. I want the spurs to lose because I don't like most of the people on this board. Too many arguments over the years. I am ready for some new younger players on the spurs and out with this same old team and hopefully a new front office. And I am not a laker fan(suffered watching Magic and Showtime beat Gervin in the 1980s) but am not a fan of the people on this board.

[Sean Cagney]

rascal bitched when the Spurs won the title in 03 because they were boring, were bigman-centric, and didn't run. Now that they run he bitches because they're not bigman-centric.
03 my fave title team, if you bitched after that as a SPURS fan you are NOT A REAL FAN!!!!! PERIOD. He is an LA fan, trolling IMO. He brings some takes here or there to stay low key but the rest of the time he is clearly an LA fan here trolling.
I am not trying to act anything. I want the spurs to lose because I don't like most of the people on this board. Too many arguments over the years. I am ready for some new younger players on the spurs and out with this same old team and hopefully a new front office. And I am not a laker fan(suffered watching Magic and Showtime beat Gervin in the 1980s) but am not a fan of the people on this board.

Okay if you say that then I can see not liking most on here Rascal! I just can't tell on these boards! Someone said you bitched after our 03 title though when the Spurs were still very young! I have no clue if you did that there? I am going by posts, you seem to hate this team lol. Would you rather the Spurs just fade out fast like most of the teams of the 00's and be done now or would you still enjoy playoff bball like we are at times?

[rascal]

rascal bitched when the Spurs won the title in 03 because they were boring, were bigman-centric, and didn't run. Now that they run he bitches because they're not bigman-centric.

The Spurs don't run. They ran in the 1970s, those teams were exciting.

[rascal]

03 my fave title team, if you bitched after that as a SPURS fan you are NOT A REAL FAN!!!!! PERIOD. He is an LA fan, trolling IMO. He brings some takes here or there to stay low key but the rest of the time he is clearly an LA fan here trolling.

Not a Laker fan.

[RD2191]

Rascal trolling niggas:lol

[rascal]

LOL dumbass, you said years ago so the team that got 6 seconds from a title would have already been broken up.

Yep and they probably would of had a title.

[Sean Cagney]

The Spurs don't run. They ran in the 1970s, those teams were exciting.

So you hate the 03 team because they did not run and had some great D? That wins Rascal! Would you take the exciting one over the team with some lockdown D that won titles? SERIOUSLY? I take that Gritty ass D team all day who can win titles. Run is the Suns and Fun yes, but later on does not win titles.

[baseline bum]

The Spurs don't run. They ran in the 1970s, those teams were exciting.

And shitty

[rascal]

Rascal trolling niggas:lol

Who is niggas ?

[baseline bum]

Yep and they probably would of had a title.

What would their championship core be?

[Sean Cagney]

And shitty

:lol yep and true.....

[RD2191]

A championship contending team should be able to win if they score 108 points. Defense just isn't there.

[RD2191]

Who is niggas ?

Niggas.

[rascal]

And shitty

Not shitty at all. The 1979 team was great and robbed of going to the finals. That was the one spur team that was really robbed, not any of the current teams. Too bad you are too young to remember those great early spur teams and players.

[baseline bum]

Not shitty at all. The 1979 team was great and robbed of going to the finals. That was the one spur team that was really robbed, not any of the current teams. Too bad you are too young to remember those great early spur teams and players.

They choked 3-1 and they're your model team :lol

[Capt Bringdown]

The FO is still hypnotized by the 2007 championship. Methinks they've forgotten what it takes to win it all. The big 3 can carry a bunch of nonathletic, jump-shooting softies to year after year of regular season glory, but they'll be no more river parades.

[rascal]

:lol yep and true.....

Another too young to remember. Those were the most exciting teams the spurs have ever had.

[Boomersgold]

Huge difference between RS and playoff basketball. Would you entrust the second unit with a guy who's had his first real taste of playoff basketball? If anything, I'd like to see more CoJo and less Mills because I'm tired of watching Mills get abused on defense. If he's not knockig down shots, he serves little purpose.
Mills actually played decent defense last night. He held Harris to 0 points (Harris' only made field goal was a 3 pointer against Parker).

[RD2191]

The FO is still hypnotized by the 2007 championship. Methinks they've forgotten what it takes to win it all. The big 3 can carry a bunch of nonathletic, jump-shooting softies to year after year of regular season glory, but they'll be no more river parades.

[baseline bum]

Another too young to remember. Those were the most exciting teams the spurs have ever had.

That was really exciting seeing them bounce back from the 3-1 choke in the 79 ECF with a 41-41 season and being knocked out by Houston tbh

[rascal]

They choked 3-1 and they're your model team :lol

Game 7 was taken away from them. It is not all about winning, but how you play the game. Those spur team were run and gun and exciting. The Spurs front office back then was way better than the front office today. They did not get robinson and Duncan to fall in their laps. They made moves with trades to acquire star players.

[TE]

Niggas.
:lmao sup bro

[dallasmaverickslose]

Game 7 was taken away from them. It is not all about winning, but how you play the game. Those spur team were run and gun and exciting. The Spurs front office back then was way better than the front office today. They did not get robinson and Duncan to fall in their laps. They made moves with trades to acquire star players.

They also won 0 championships.

[Sean Cagney]

Another too young to remember. Those were the most exciting teams the spurs have ever had.

Like the SUNS, they never won shit.... Show me banners, period. Exciting is fun to watch during the regular season, later on not so much as they exit the playoffs. The Spurs title teams played D and had TIMMAY! I take that anyday over that running crap.

[baseline bum]

Game 7 was taken away from them. It is not all about winning, but how you play the game. Those spur team were run and gun and exciting. The Spurs front office back then was way better than the front office today. They did not get robinson and Duncan to fall in their laps. They made moves with trades to acquire star players.

Bob Bass :lol

[RD2191]

:lmao sup bro

Chillin, feeling like shit because of yesterday's loss. :lol

[rascal]

That was really exciting seeing them bounce back from the 3-1 choke in the 79 ECF with a 41-41 season and being knocked out by Houston tbh

Again you place too much on winning. The spurs have won playing ugly. It is not coincidence the rest of the country calls the spurs boring. At one time the rest of the country was calling the spurs exciting but you were not around to see it. Those were the most exciting spur teams ever.

[baseline bum]

Again you place too much on winning. The spurs have won playing ugly. It is not coincidence the rest of the country calls the spurs boring. At one time the rest of the country was calling the spurs exciting but you were not around to see it. Those were the most exciting spur teams ever.

Yeah, .500 ball fucking owns

[SpurPadre]

We need to start calling out Green more. He's shitting the bed worse than the '12 WCF vs. the Thunder. Whether Pop starts Manu the rest of the series or not (he won't), Green has to find a way to contribute defensively at least but even on that end, he seems lost out there.

[TE]

Chillin, feeling like shit because of yesterday's loss. :lol
I feel like it's partially my fault, never making another playoff game thread, wheres that dude Mel_13? We need him doing them :lol

[rascal]

Like the SUNS, they never won shit.... Show me banners, period. Exciting is fun to watch during the regular season, later on not so much as they exit the playoffs. The Spurs title teams played D and had TIMMAY! I take that anyday over that running crap.

Not me. the Spurs could have won playing exciting basketball like the Showtime Lakers but chose to surround Duncan and Robinson with boring players. You have Robinson and Duncan on the same team and only win 2 titles in 6 years you failed as a front office. Those two together should have had a min of 4 titles had the front office gotten some good players to surround them.

[RD2191]

I feel like it's partially my fault, never making another playoff game thread, wheres that dude Mel_13? We need him doing them :lol

No way man, the Spurs just look out if it. Don't know what the hell is going on. Tbh.

[Capt Bringdown]

That '79 team was great, but I don't think they would have fared well in the finals vs the Sonics, due to Dennis Johnson's defensive prowess against Ice.

[Sean Cagney]

Not me. the Spurs could have won playing exciting basketball like the Showtime Lakers but chose to surround Duncan and Robinson with boring players. You have Robinson and Duncan on the same team and only win 2 titles in 6 years you failed as a front office. Those two together should have had a min of 4 titles had the front office gotten some good players to surround them.

D ROB got old at the end and was hurt alot, no way you call 2 titles a failure. Showtime Lakers! Your fave team! Magic had 5 rings, Tim had 4 rings! NOT FAR OFF! I would say they did well. Manu boring? In his prime? LOL 4 titles, Tim was too young his first year to deliver a title and learned more in his second and helped them RING! The years after D ROB was old and busted up, you act like he was in his prime for a good time with Duncan there! NOT EVEN CLOSE after 00, stop it! D ROB had a bad back etc. in his latear years, he was not a star anymore.

[rascal]

Yeah, .500 ball fucking owns

.500 ball is exciting when you are a new startup franchise in a small market like san antonio which never even had any major sports team.
The Hemisphere area was a more exciting place to watch a basketball game then what they have today.
But they didn't play .500 ball throughout the 1970s. They became so good they were accepted to join into the NBA. If they were not good they would have folded the team like so many other ABA teams.
Yes they were good. Angelo Drossos/ Doug Moe not Bob Bass

[Expert]

It it is a four-point swing either way (or even five) because ten seconds come off the clock and Dallas never has a chance to win at the end. Manu is a washed up chucker who amazes with his ability to pass the ball to the fans sitting under the opposing team's basket.

So 10 seconds and a missed shot with over a minute to go is a 4 point swing? I learn something new every day.

[rascal]

D ROB got old at the end and was hurt alot, no way you call 2 titles a failure. Showtime Lakers! Your fave team! Magic had 5 rings, Tim had 4 rings! NOT FAR OFF! I would say they did well. Manu boring? In his prime? LOL 4 titles, Tim was too young his first year to deliver a title and learned more in his second and helped them RING! The years after D ROB was old and busted up, you act like he was in his prime for a good time with Duncan there! NOT EVEN CLOSE after 00, stop it! D ROB had a bad back etc. in his latear years, he was not a star anymore.

two titles is a major failure with two hall of fame bigs on the roster. Most teams did not even have one Hall of Fame big. Robinson was still playing good, they even won a title in his final year and that was the one year he was the most injured with his back problem. You do not lose with Robinson and Duncan. The crappy players the Spurs surrounded robinson/Duncan with during the lakers run of 3 titles was a joke.

[Capt Bringdown]

That was really exciting seeing them bounce back from the 3-1 choke in the 79 ECF with a 41-41 season and being knocked out by Houston tbh

How excited are we going to be this year? Spurs choke away a title and then lose in the first round to the fucking Mavs the following year?
BTW, the year after the Rockets knocked the Spurs out, they went to the finals. They were hardly chopped liver, unlike these laughable Mavs.
Spurs are getting punked by Shawn Marion & Vince Carter ffs.

[Johnny RIngo]

Not me. the Spurs could have won playing exciting basketball like the Showtime Lakers but chose to surround Duncan and Robinson with boring players. You have Robinson and Duncan on the same team and only win 2 titles in 6 years you failed as a front office. Those two together should have had a min of 4 titles had the front office gotten some good players to surround them.

Can't really blame Duncan when you have one of the worst post-season performers of his generation(Tony Parker) chucking away the Spurs chances in multiple series('04 against Lakers, '06 against Mavs, '13 against Heat)

[Skull-1]

So 10 seconds and a missed shot with over a minute to go is a 4 point swing? I learn something new every day.


Context is everything. Chance to go up five with 1:30 you don't brick a three! You take the high percentage shot. Even if you miss you have burned clock!


No time. No score. Spurs win. Duh.

Instead we not only give them two points but 15 precious seconds they need to complete the comeback victory.


This failure repeats over and over and over. An older team cannot hold off a run without burning time off the damned clock, especially come playoff time--or the Finals.


Bottom line: That was a braindead shot by Manu. Per par.

[baseline bum]

How excited are we going to be this year? Spurs choke away a title and then lose in the first round to the fucking Mavs the following year?
BTW, the year after the Rockets knocked the Spurs out, they went to the finals. They were hardly chopped liver, unlike these laughable Mavs.
Spurs are getting punked by Shawn Marion & Vince Carter ffs.

:lol

The Lakers choked against that shitty Rockets team in 81 back when they had 3 game first round series and then Houston beat a Kansas City team whose best player was Scott Wedman in the WCF.

[DD]

file under stupidest post of the night

His bad-timing also allowed VC to get off a pumpfake, which "guess who?" bit on.

yikes

[Capt Bringdown]

:lol

The Lakers choked against that shitty Rockets team in 81 back when they had 3 game first round series and then Houston beat a Kansas City team whose best player was Scott Wedman in the WCF.

Wasn't KC's best player, Otis Birdsong, injured in that series?

[HI-FI]

The FO is still hypnotized by the 2007 championship. Methinks they've forgotten what it takes to win it all. The big 3 can carry a bunch of nonathletic, jump-shooting softies to year after year of regular season glory, but they'll be no more river parades.

I have to wonder if its ownership though. I read somewhere that Peter Holt said after '07 they're all in together (meaning big 3, Pop etc....) til the end. Great for scrapbooks and memorabilia, not sure if that's good enough to win a championship though. I guess they got close last year, we'll see about this one.

[Expert]

Context is everything. Chance to go up five with 1:30 you don't brick a three! You take the high percentage shot. Even if you miss you have burned clock!


No time. No score. Spurs win. Duh.

Instead we not only give them two points but 15 precious seconds they need to complete the comeback victory.


This failure repeats over and over and over. An older team cannot hold off a run without burning time off the damned clock, especially come playoff time--or the Finals.


Bottom line: That was a braindead shot by Manu. Per par.

Spurs had a 2 point lead with less than 2 seconds on the clock. Context is indeed everything. It's not a recorded event being played back... Dallas would run different plays if they needed more points. They wouldn't just do the exact same thing and score the exact same points. Get stops. Only neophyte ball watchers think the problem is always the offense.

[slick'81]

Spurs can't get stops .not to say Ellis didn't push off or Manu was fouled but this series spurs aren't stopping the mavs for shit where the fck is that defense

[quentin_compson]

As for Carter's last shot, I thought Manu maybe shouldn't have gambled and gone for the steal. But he recovered quite nicely and still made it tough on Vince. It was just a great shot. Sometimes these things are falling, sometimes they aren't. And of course Manu just had made a clutch play himself.

Overall, the defense just isn't good enough on a consistent basis. It seem the Mavs are dictating how the games are being played more than the other way around. That is surprising.

[Captivus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHCH25hPQho

[smeagol]

The fans

[Skull-1]

Spurs had a 2 point lead with less than 2 seconds on the clock. Context is indeed everything. It's not a recorded event being played back... Dallas would run different plays if they needed more points. They wouldn't just do the exact same thing and score the exact same points. Get stops. Only neophyte ball watchers think the problem is always the offense.
Defense wins championships. Sloppy possessions lose them. Duh.

[Chomag]

Spurs just showing how vulnerable they are. A few of us called it out earlier in the season were laughed at and told "its only (insert month)" or that they have the best record that we are idiots and there is nothing to worry about.

[Skull-1]

You don't come back from a nutpunch like Game Six, as Game Seven showed. Been saying all year we would be lucky to get out of the second round.


Harbingers of doom include Coach of the Year, Number One Seed, and scoring so many points early. We did that against the Flakers for years. They always roared back to kill us.

[dallasmaverickslose]

You don't come back from a nutpunch like Game Six, as Game Seven showed. Been saying all year we would be lucky to get out of the second round.


Harbingers of doom include Coach of the Year, Number One Seed, and scoring so many points early. We did that against the Flakers for years. They always roared back to kill us.

IT'S ALL POP AND MANU'S FAULT!!!!!!!! :cry:cry:cry:cry

[therealtruth]

Defense wins championships. Sloppy possessions lose them. Duh.

That was not championship defense. A 3 beats you so don't allow 3's. Force them into contested 2's and at worst you get overtime.

[Hoops Czar]

That was not championship defense. A 3 beats you so don't allow 3's. Force them into contested 2's and at worst you get overtime.

There was no time for a two and Dallas is playing with house money. No one expects them to win this series and the longer the Spurs allow them to stay close, the more confidence they gain. Carter's game winner wasn't as difficult as it seems. There was no pressure on that shot because nobody expected him to make it and the chances of him hitting it were probably less than 5%. Shots that don't require much thought are often times, the most dangerous.

[SpurYank]

None of the above. We didn't lose this game. The Mavericks won it.

[hsxvvd]

http://www.keithcephus.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/tonybrothers-copy.jpg

[therealtruth]

There was no time for a two and Dallas is playing with house money. No one expects them to win this series and the longer the Spurs allow them to stay close, the more confidence they gain. Carter's game winner wasn't as difficult as it seems. There was no pressure on that shot because nobody expected him to make it and the chances of him hitting it were probably less than 5%. Shots that don't require much thought are often times, the most dangerous.

The chances were actually pretty good. Carter practices that shot everyday. That's the same shot he missed in 2001 with a chance to go to the NBA Finals. He hasn't forgotten that.

[Skull-1]

That was not championship defense. A 3 beats you so don't allow 3's. Force them into contested 2's and at worst you get overtime.


And Manu being a retard twice when we had a chance to step on their throat is why we lost. The last shot would have been irrelevant. Just so happens he screwed us twice.....redeemed it....and then gave it away again. So fed up with brainless basketball.

[DPG21920]

They are not scrubs. Especially Danny. 3 straight WCF, 1 final and possibly a 2nd final in a row? Not too reliant on scrubs.

[DPG21920]

DPG21920, would you say those are scrub-like #'s? Btw, big-ups to your other "non-scrubs" (Mills and Beli)--they are definitely defending your argument this postseason.


Silly argument. Where was that last year? This series over?


Well, last year Beli wasn't on the Spurs, Patti was waving a towel, and Green went AWOL in the 2 most pivotal games of the series. So....


They are not scrubs. Especially Danny. 3 straight WCF, 1 final and possibly a 2nd final in a row? Not too reliant on scrubs.

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