View Full Version : Toyora movibg to Texas.
TeyshaBlue
04-28-2014, 08:48 AM
http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-27/toyota-said-to-plan-to-move-u-s-sales-office-to-texas.html
Plano...meh.
TeyshaBlue
04-28-2014, 08:51 AM
I fucking fail at phone posting.:(
Th'Pusher
04-28-2014, 08:51 AM
http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-27/toyota-said-to-plan-to-move-u-s-sales-office-to-texas.html
Plano...meh.
Governor good hair doing work tbh.
Th'Pusher
04-28-2014, 08:52 AM
I fucking fail at phone posting.:(
I though you were posting in a Japanese accent. Toyora :lol
boutons_deux
04-28-2014, 08:53 AM
yeah, I thought SA
of course the Toyota execs, like the ATT execs, would prefer Dallas to podunk SA.
TeyshaBlue
04-28-2014, 08:54 AM
I though you were posting in a Japanese accent. Toyora :lol
Could've claimed that if I hadn't mangled "moving" too. :lol
TeyshaBlue
04-28-2014, 08:55 AM
yeah, I thought SA
of course the Toyota execs, like the ATT execs, would prefer Dallas to podunk SA.
I would 10x rather live in SA than fucking Plano.
CosmicCowboy
04-28-2014, 09:12 AM
yeah, I thought SA
of course the Toyota execs, like the ATT execs, would prefer Dallas to podunk SA.
It's our freaking airport. Cant' fucking go anywhere without switching in Dallas or Houston. Hell, I've started driving to Austin to fly Jet Blue.
pgardn
04-28-2014, 09:22 AM
yeah, I thought SA
of course the Toyota execs, like the ATT execs, would prefer Dallas to podunk SA.
Because they have real airports.
And I see it has been mentioned.
boutons_deux
04-28-2014, 09:24 AM
It's our freaking airport. Cant' fucking go anywhere without switching in Dallas or Houston. Hell, I've started driving to Austin to fly Jet Blue.
airline deregulation has screwed not only the customers, but also the many bankrupted airlines.
I read where regional pilots flying the tiny "spokes" make about $10.75/hour.
CosmicCowboy
04-28-2014, 09:54 AM
It's not the actual airport but rather the airlines that "own" the gates. We basically have American (hub in Dallas) United (hub in Houston) and Southwest (Dallas Love and Houston)
pgardn
04-28-2014, 09:55 AM
airline deregulation has screwed not only the customers, but also the many bankrupted airlines.
I read where regional pilots flying the tiny "spokes" make about $10.75/hour.
So this explains the state of SAs airport?
CosmicCowboy
04-28-2014, 10:06 AM
Oddly, Southwest is now one of the highest cost airlines because they never declared bankruptcy.
It's our freaking airport. Cant' fucking go anywhere without switching in Dallas or Houston. Hell, I've started driving to Austin to fly Jet Blue.
me too. Sometimes I just drive to Houston if I'm going overseas. Less stress on the sinuses to only take one flight.
I though you were posting in a Japanese accent. Toyora :lol
So did I, tbh. I just didn't know what to make of movbig (or whatever it was - lol)
boutons_deux
04-28-2014, 01:57 PM
Oddly, Southwest is now one of the highest cost airlines because they never declared bankruptcy.
which of their costs make them highest?
FuzzyLumpkins
04-28-2014, 08:10 PM
So this explains the state of SAs airport?
Infrastructure spending is abysmal. Cut there and food stamps but pay retirement. America. Fuck yeah!
Wild Cobra
04-28-2014, 08:14 PM
airline deregulation has screwed not only the customers, but also the many bankrupted airlines.
I read where regional pilots flying the tiny "spokes" make about $10.75/hour.
I say bullshit.
TDMVPDPOY
04-29-2014, 04:01 AM
toyota is closing its manufacturing down here, after ford and GM has decided also to shut down factories production,
basically no auto manufacturing industry down here
lol signing FTA with 3rd world countries where labour and costs are cheaper allowing these companies to go offschore to produce their shit and import it cheaper, can offschore profits let alone charge the same price as previously when they promised products sold be cheaper...load of bullshit
boutons_deux
04-29-2014, 06:03 AM
I say bullshit.
... it's what's between your ears, bitch
http://money.cnn.com/gallery/news/economy/2014/02/27/surprising-minimum-wage-jobs/
http://thetruthabouttheprofession.weebly.com/professional-pilot-salaries.html
Twisted_Dawg
04-29-2014, 07:22 AM
toyota is closing its manufacturing down here, after ford and GM has decided also to shut down factories production,
basically no auto manufacturing industry down here
lol signing FTA with 3rd world countries where labour and costs are cheaper allowing these companies to go offschore to produce their shit and import it cheaper, can offschore profits let alone charge the same price as previously when they promised products sold be cheaper...load of bullshit
Where is "here"? California?
TeyshaBlue
04-29-2014, 08:14 AM
... it's what's between your ears, bitch
http://money.cnn.com/gallery/news/economy/2014/02/27/surprising-minimum-wage-jobs/
http://thetruthabouttheprofession.weebly.com/professional-pilot-salaries.html
That's pretty fucking brutal intro payscales for that skill set.
boutons_deux
04-29-2014, 08:32 AM
That's pretty fucking brutal intro payscales for that skill set.
compare:
http://www.indeed.com/salary/Truck-Driver.html
boutons_deux
05-02-2014, 01:06 PM
Was Toyota driven out of California? Not so fast
In Austin, Texas Gov. Rick Perry (http://www.latimes.com/topic/politics/government/rick-perry-PEHST001561.topic) took a victory lap, crediting his state's low taxes and hands-off policies. Lawmakers and business lobbyists from Torrance to Sacramento said the Golden State must unravel red tape and increase incentives if it hopes to compete for jobs. They ridiculed Gov. Jerry Brown (http://www.latimes.com/topic/politics/government/jerry-brown-PEPLT007547.topic) for not even knowing about Toyota's plans to abandon his state.
The trouble is that taxes, regulations and business climate appear to have had nothing to do with Toyota's move. It came down to a simple matter of geography and a plan for corporate consolidation, Toyota's North American chief told The Times. And in the big picture, California's and Texas' economies are growing at a similar pace, with corporate relocations — in either direction — representing only a tiny slice of job growth in both states.
"It may seem like a juicy story to have this confrontation between California and Texas, but that was not the case," said Jim Lentz, Toyota's North American chief executive.
Toyota left California to move its company's brainpower, now divided among offices in three states, into one headquarters close to the company's manufacturing base, primarily in the South.
"It doesn't make sense to have oversight of manufacturing 2,000 miles away from where the cars were made," Lentz said. "Geography is the reason not to have our headquarters in California."
The episode highlights the outsized attention paid to the interstate scrum to woo big-name employers — often with public money. Add in Perry's high-profile company-poaching visits to California, and the move teed up a talking point for those who argue that California must change its ways to fend off the Texas assault.
"It's a prime example of the state's unfriendly tax code and business regulations that drive businesses out of the state," said Allan Mansoor (http://www.latimes.com/topic/politics/government/allan-r.-mansoor-PEPLT00008545.topic), the top Republican on the state Assembly's economic development committee. "The whole thing could have been prevented."
Economic data paint a different picture, according to experts who study job migration and creation. For one thing, poaching of jobs does little to grow the economy of any state.
The Public Policy Institute of California studied this phenomenon over a 15-year period, from 1992 to 2006. It found that less than 2% of jobs lost in California were due to companies leaving, and only 1% of jobs created were due to companies moving in.
More recent figures were not available, but experts say it's unlikely that dynamic has changed, particularly given that the number of major corporate relocations and expansions nationwide has fallen sharply in recent years. According to Conway Data, which tracks site-selection activity, the number of big corporate moves last year was half what it was at its peak in the late 1990s.
"Governors should tune out the war between the states. That's not where job creation happens," said Greg LeRoy, executive director at Good Jobs First, a think tank that tracks corporate subsidies.
"Job creation happens at home."
In the big picture, Texas and California are seeing strong job growth. Since they bottomed out in the recession, both states have added about 1.2 million jobs. That represents a 12% gain for Texas but only 8% for California because of its larger job market. Texas also suffered fewer losses in the downturn.
Average wages, adjusted for inflation, have fallen in both states since 2007. But they have fallen 3.8% in Texas, compared to 2.1% in California, according to Labor Department data.
For companies that do move, corporate strategy often plays a bigger role than a state's tax or regulatory climate.
http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-toyota-economy-20140502,0,1647755.story#ixzz30aBqVObH
So RickyBobby and other TX Repugs proven yet again to be full of bullshit and hot air.
Blake
05-02-2014, 01:31 PM
I say bullshit.
I've read my share of stories of pilots making terrible wages, keeping terrible hours living in terrible flop houses.
I'll see if I can find one or two good ones if you're too lazy to do it yourself.
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