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MultiTroll
04-28-2014, 01:58 PM
1.7 to inbounds.
Watch Manu try to make the Hero Ball steal.
In doing so, it
a. throws him off balance when he misses the ball and
b. in trying to recover and play D on Carter....in doing so he overcompensates, jumps way too early and joins the paratroopers club. Carter senses this, actually gets position and moves away from Manu as Manu is falling down from his paratroopers jump. Clear shot at a trey in what should have been a very contested jumper.

We are up by 2.
We cannot lose in regulation by a 2.
Only a trey can beat us. (Or some dumbassed 2 + 1 fouling a shooter that no one would do -hey wait! Manu on Dirk in 2006.

GNobs positives still far outweigh his negatives for a career.
But his basketball IQ is dropping off the charts what with his Miami bullshit and now this.

Johnny RIngo
04-28-2014, 02:01 PM
Don't really understand how this was Ginobili's fault. Vince made a really lucky shot.

Pauleta14
04-28-2014, 02:07 PM
Not THAT lucky...

hater
04-28-2014, 02:07 PM
Manu has had more facials than pamela anderson

Strategic
04-28-2014, 02:13 PM
Spurs need to win three out of four, why worry about yesterday's game?

therealtruth
04-28-2014, 06:32 PM
Thinking about Wes Mathews steal yesterday on a critical play yesterday, it occurred to me the Spurs don't make enough plays on defense that force turnovers disrupt the other time. They are totally at the mercy of the offensive team in those situations. It starts by pressuring the passer and making sure he doesn't get an easy inbound then also making sure the offensive players don't get the ball where they want to catch it. Also if you can be beat or tied by a 3 do not allow 3pointers! Overplay the 3pt line and hope you can contest enough inside the arc.

MultiTroll
04-28-2014, 08:06 PM
Also if you can be beat or tied by a 3 do not allow 3pointers! Overplay the 3pt line and hope you can contest enough inside the arc.
Mr. Jenkins, the 4th grade math teacher and boys basketball coach knows this.
But Popped and Ginobili do not.

superjames1992
04-28-2014, 08:12 PM
:lol

dallasmaverickslose
04-28-2014, 08:14 PM
:dizzy

phxspurfan
04-28-2014, 08:17 PM
This is kinda true. Manu gambles way too much and it gets him in trouble more now that he doesn't have the athleticism to get back in time. But oh well let's hope we win tonight.

Skull-1
04-28-2014, 08:17 PM
Manu f'd us in the fourth at 1:45 up three. Heat-check shot he should have known he would miss (with 15 on the shot clock, no less)... Brick. Dallas two the other way.


He just doesn't think....

313
04-28-2014, 08:24 PM
Manu f'd us in the fourth at 1:45 up three. Heat-check shot he should have known he would miss (with 15 on the shot clock, no less)... Brick. Dallas two the other way.


He just doesn't think....That was the play bro, go back and rewatch it. h e got a clean look, just couldn't connect.

Skull-1
04-28-2014, 08:27 PM
That was the play bro, go back and rewatch it. h e got a clean look, just couldn't connect.


It was a bad shot and he was short dorking his threes as the game progressed.


A higher percentage two and time off the clock is what we needed there, not a hero ball three miss....

ElNono
04-28-2014, 08:33 PM
Manu was great all game, all series long, tbh...

Spurs should try to sign him to another 2 year extension in the offseason... he's still clearly the heart of this team and he has played great.

superjames1992
04-28-2014, 08:40 PM
Manu was great all game, all series long, tbh...

Spurs should try to sign him to another 2 year extension in the offseason... he's still clearly the heart of this team and he has played great.

7-year max contract extension tbh...

ElNono
04-28-2014, 08:43 PM
7-year max contract extension tbh...

:lol let's not be ridiculous... 2 year $10m deal is reasonable, tbh...

sammy
04-28-2014, 09:24 PM
Manu is carrying the team for all of the jackass haters whining on one play! GTFO!

MultiTroll
04-29-2014, 10:59 AM
Manu has had more facials than pamela anderson

phxspurfan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=5132)
This is kinda true. Manu gambles way too much and it gets him in trouble more now that he doesn't have the athleticism to get back in time. But oh well let's hope we win tonight.

Skull-1 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=44046)
He just doesn't think....
Did you guys catch were he did it again!?
87-84 after Splitts did the nifty loose ball grab and Blair gifted us with the knee jerk reaction leg kick.
Manu sinks the tech, Splitts hits both free throws.
Back on D.
Ellis drives and GNob tries to draw the charge and instead hands Ellis a 2 + 1. Tie game. :lmao

Don't foul the shooter, right?
Basketball 101, Mr. Jenkins and his 4th grade basketball class all know this.

I know Hall of Fame best coach in the NBA Greg Popper won't do it, but with game-on-the-line defensive situations like this and esp at the very end like the end of Game 3 (1.7 seconds) he should sub Manu out. Do the defensive/offensive switch. Of course it would be better to school him how to play D up 3 but that obviously is not working.



therealtruth (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=27278)
Also if you can be beat or tied by a 3 do not allow 3pointers!
Nor 2+1s.

Thank goodness we won.
For the haters, Manu played well all in all. Any of your fabrications that *it's just one play*, yeah its sometimes the game deciding play.

ElNono
04-29-2014, 11:07 AM
Ellis drives and GNob tries to draw the charge and instead hands Ellis a 2 + 1. Tie game. :lmao

Don't foul the shooter, right?
Basketball 101, Mr. Jenkins and his 4th grade basketball class all know this.


I thought that was a terrible call, tbh... Monta has been getting away with barreling into the paint and getting bailed out by the whistle... I was actually surprised he wasn't bailed out in the last play too.

Boris got the same treatment the game before. Manu is actually one of the best perimeter defenders on the team, even at 37...

Skull-1
04-29-2014, 11:13 AM
Did you guys catch were he did it again!?
87-84 after Splitts did the nifty loose ball grab and Blair gifted us with the knee jerk reaction leg kick.
Manu sinks the tech, Splitts hits both free throws.
Back on D.
Ellis drives and GNob tries to draw the charge and instead hands Ellis a 2 + 1. Tie game. :lmao

Don't foul the shooter, right?
Basketball 101, Mr. Jenkins and his 4th grade basketball class all know this.

I know Hall of Fame best coach in the NBA Greg Popper won't do it, but with game-on-the-line defensive situations like this and esp at the very end like the end of Game 3 (1.7 seconds) he should sub Manu out. Do the defensive/offensive switch. Of course it would be better to school him how to play D up 3 but that obviously is not working.


Nor 2+1s.

Thank goodness we won.
For the haters, Manu played well all in all. Any of your fabrications that *it's just one play*, yeah its sometime the game deciding play.

MultiTroll
04-29-2014, 11:17 AM
I thought that was a terrible call, tbh... Monta has been getting away with barreling into the paint and getting bailed out by the whistle... I was actually surprised he wasn't bailed out in the last play too.
Mavs, including Ellis and foremost Dirk are getting bullshit calls vs the Spurs. That's only been going on since 2006.
Ad-just-ments.
You know the refs have been blowing Ellis and Dork all game long.
Oh so let's test out the refs up 3 with a minute or so to play. Then say afterwords but but but it wasn't a foul.
Brilliant strategy.

ElNono
04-29-2014, 11:23 AM
Mavs, including Ellis and foremost Dirk are getting bullshit calls vs the Spurs. That's only been going on since 2006.
Ad-just-ments.
You know the refs have been blowing Ellis and Dork all game long.
Oh so let's test out the refs up 3 with a minute or so to play. Then say afterwords but but but it wasn't a foul.
Brilliant strategy.

This is hindsight analysis, Fabbs. What are the Spurs supposed to do? Put a red carpet to the rim for Monta only up 3?

I mean, this wasn't a situation where there's less than 24 seconds left, and the Mavs are forced to foul... I didn't think Boris fouled him either the game before, but a lil home cooking is part of the game (sucks when you're on the other end of the call, no doubt)

MultiTroll
04-29-2014, 11:37 AM
This is hindsight analysis, Fabbs.
Nonsense. It was clear before the play we are up 3. We cannot surrender the lead with a 2.
Also, it was a foul. Manu is clearly shuffling his feet and impedes Ellis movement.
The play started with 59 seconds on the clock, Ellis got the ball and started his drive with about 54 seconds.
If that is not close enough to an end of game defensive situation for you :rolleyes


What are the Spurs supposed to do? Put a red carpet to the rim for Monta only up 3?
Strawman, don't foul the shooter! If in a calculated risk you are stopping a sure hoop like a dunk or layup, make damn sure the shooter does not make the shot.
Like Ellis did.
Like Dirk did 2006.
Hello, we've now been here too many times with GNob.

ElNono
04-29-2014, 11:50 AM
Nonsense. It was clear before the play we are up 3. We cannot surrender the lead with a 2.
Also, it was a foul. Manu is clearly shuffling his feet and impedes Ellis movement.
The play started with 59 seconds on the clock, Ellis got the ball and started his drive with about 54 seconds.
If that is not close enough to an end of game defensive situation for you :rolleyes

Strawman, don't foul the shooter! If in a calculated risk you are stopping a sure hoop like a dunk or layup, make damn sure the shooter does not make the shot.
Like Ellis did.
Like Dirk did 2006.
Hello, we've now been here too many times with GNob.

Again, more hindsight analysis. I'm pretty sure Manu didn't want to foul, not last night or in 2006. Boris didn't want to foul in the previous game either...

But if you play D, sometimes you're going to get called for contact. The Spurs have been on the other side of the same coin a lot of times too.

And hell no, 54 secs is a whole lot of time, especially in the playoffs and in a close game. You play defense.

But this is a pointless argument, tbh... if he lets Monta waltz through then there's bitching for not playing D...

Prose
04-29-2014, 11:56 AM
Dude carter traveled. He readjust his right foot after the pump fake. Many is not to blame. He is the only guy who showed heart and fire and competivite nature out there.

MultiTroll
04-29-2014, 11:57 AM
Again, more hindsight analysis. I'm pretty sure Manu didn't want to foul, not last night or in 2006. Boris didn't want to foul in the previous game either...
Not sure if you are just trolling as the SpursTalk jerk off mod-troll krewz keep a running score of how many responses, sock puppet or otherwise they can *get*.
Do you reallly not get the strategy of not allowing a 3, be it beyond the arc or 2+1 at the end of the game?
In 2006 in the huddle, to Pops credit he reiterated in the timeout, "Don't foul the shooter".

Perhaps we can hook you (and Manu) up with Mr. Jenkins and his 4th grade basketball class the next practice session(s).

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
04-29-2014, 12:06 PM
phxspurfan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=5132)

Skull-1 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=44046)
Did you guys catch were he did it again!?
87-84 after Splitts did the nifty loose ball grab and Blair gifted us with the knee jerk reaction leg kick.
Manu sinks the tech, Splitts hits both free throws.
Back on D.
Ellis drives and GNob tries to draw the charge and instead hands Ellis a 2 + 1. Tie game. :lmao

Don't foul the shooter, right?
Basketball 101, Mr. Jenkins and his 4th grade basketball class all know this.

I know Hall of Fame best coach in the NBA Greg Popper won't do it, but with game-on-the-line defensive situations like this and esp at the very end like the end of Game 3 (1.7 seconds) he should sub Manu out. Do the defensive/offensive switch. Of course it would be better to school him how to play D up 3 but that obviously is not working.



therealtruth (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=27278)
Nor 2+1s.

Thank goodness we won.
For the haters, Manu played well all in all. Any of your fabrications that *it's just one play*, yeah its sometimes the game deciding play.


:lol Manu haters still try to find ways to blame Gino for things when he is the ONLY ONE balling out for us.

ElNono
04-29-2014, 12:06 PM
Not sure if you are just trolling as the SpursTalk jerk off mod-troll krewz keep a running score of how many responses, sock puppet or otherwise they can *get*.
Do you reallly not get the strategy of not allowing a 3, be it beyond the arc or 2+1 at the end of the game?
In 2006 in the huddle, to Pops credit he reiterated in the timeout, "Don't foul the shooter".

Perhaps we can hook you (and Manu) up with Mr. Jenkins and his 4th grade basketball class the next practice session(s).

Are you trolling Fabbs? :lol

In 2006, Dirk started that play with 26 secs left on the clock. If he misses, then they have to foul. THAT is an end of game situation (and that was certainly a costly, boneheaded foul).

Last night there was no such scenario. Make or miss, there was plenty of time left.

MultiTroll
04-29-2014, 12:26 PM
:lol Manu haters still try to find ways to blame Gino for things when he is the ONLY ONE balling out for us.
Team comes before individual.
That you apparantly think Manu is perfect and beyond impovement is well, you must have celebrated with the Heat when GNob was literally their Game 6 MVP.

When a players flaws impede a Championship, it is indeed proper that said player could improve on those flaws.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
04-29-2014, 12:30 PM
Team comes before individual.
That you apparantly think Manu is perfect and beyond impovement is well, you must have celebrated with the Heat when GNob was literally their Game 6 MVP.

When a players flaws impede a Championship, it is indeed proper that said player could improve on those flaws.

:lol why is it that whenever someone defends Manu they are a "Manutard" or "individual before team".

GINOBILI HAS SAVED OUR ASSES. YOU CAN'T SPIN THAT. You have to be clinically retarded to nitpick at his game last night..