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Avante

05-13-2014, 12:25 PM

While the Browns had their day way back when with Otto Graham and a little later with Jim Brown they have never been in a Superbowl. For he last 50 years or so they have pretty much sucked.

Back in the day they had a tailback named Bobby Mitchell who was a great running back, a sprint/hurdle champion out of the Big10. He was the perfect fit for big Jim Brown, the first geat thunder & lightnin' duo. They traded Bobby Mitchell to make room for Heisman winner Ernie Davis. Mitchell was a better back than Davis. (Davis died of Lukemia, he never played in the NFL). Mitchell ended up at Washington and became a HOF receiver.

Anyway....

Now they are acting stupid once again, you do not draft Johnny Manzeil to be a back up. He is the last guy you want sitting the bench, he will not accept that role and it is going to cause problems. He is a leader, he is not a bench sitter. THEN, to have a stupid owner tell the guy to be cool and accept a back up role, are you kidding me? Why in the fuck did you draft him?

spurraider21

05-13-2014, 12:32 PM

he's going to start... they just don't want him talking/walking around like god's gift to the planet.

Avante

05-13-2014, 12:42 PM

he's going to start... they just don't want him talking/walking around like god's gift to the planet.

He just might start but you don't play silly games over it, he was told he's the back up. You draft a guy like him to be your starter and he knows that. You also don't draft a guy with his personaity and then try to change him, that only comes with maturity.

spurraider21

05-13-2014, 12:49 PM

He just might start but you don't play silly games over it, he was told he's the back up. You draft a guy like him to be your starter and he knows that. You also don't draft a guy with his personaity and then try to change him, that only comes with maturity.
they told him he'd have to beat out Hoyer, which he probably could and will. they just didn't declare him starter yet. the previous starter is starter by default at the moment. i wouldn't make too much of it

JoeTait75

05-13-2014, 01:10 PM

Non-issue. If Manziel is the best QB on the roster he will play sooner or later. Everything else is commentary.

manufan10

05-13-2014, 01:36 PM

Yeah, I don't mind them making Manziel "earn" the starting spot. The competition will be better off for him. He had to do the same thing his freshman year at A&M. Showers had been the projected starter and Manziel finally won the job.

sook

05-13-2014, 03:52 PM

I hope he does well, but the fact of the matter is that he is an arrogant douche that is likely going to get abused by defenses at the NFL level.

Avante

05-13-2014, 06:43 PM

Speaking of Cleveland, keep an eye on running back Terrence West out of Towson (Dave Meggett) he's a stud.

Clipper Nation

04-11-2018, 02:25 PM

you do not draft Johnny Manzeil to be a back up... He is a leader, he is not a bench sitter.
:lmao

Avante

04-11-2018, 08:31 PM

:lmao

Dummy, when has JM sat on a bench? Yep, ya bring him in to start or not at all.

Dummy, tell us again about how the Eagles can;'t win with Nick Foles, fucking moron.

Clipper Nation

04-11-2018, 08:33 PM

:lmao Still defending that take after Manziel was PROVEN to be the biggest bust QB in NFL history

Avante

04-11-2018, 09:07 PM

:lmao Still defending that take after Manziel was PROVEN to be the biggest bust QB in NFL history

Dude, the Eagles can win with Nick Foles so you were 100% wrong, AGAIN~~~~~~~~~~

Stupid, did Manziel ever sit on a bench, well? He was brought in to start not sit on a bench.

spurraider21

04-12-2018, 10:53 AM

man, if only cleveland didnt trade for osweiler (and a free draft pick) they woulda totally been contenders last year! amirite monosylab1k

UNT Eagles 2016

04-12-2018, 01:50 PM

:lmao Still defending that take after Manziel was PROVEN to be the biggest bust QB in NFL history

Not even close. He was picked late in the first round, where most actual NFL experts expected (and many had him falling into the second behind Carr and Bridgewater). The non-sports media sure hyped him up, but real sports experts knew he was just okay.

A real bust would be Ryan Leaf and RG3, and the jury is still out on Luck, Winston and Mariota among others.

Clipper Nation

04-12-2018, 01:54 PM

Not even close. He was picked late in the first round, where most actual NFL experts expected (and many had him falling into the second behind Carr and Bridgewater). The non-sports media sure hyped him up, but real sports experts knew he was just okay.

A real bust would be Ryan Leaf and RG3, and the jury is still out on Luck, Winston and Mariota among others.
As bad as Ryan Leaf was, he played for three seasons. Johnny Inbred was out of the league after 8 starts :lol

Avante

04-12-2018, 08:24 PM

As bad as Ryan Leaf was, he played for three seasons. Johnny Inbred was out of the league after 8 starts :lol

Wrong as usual.

The biggest bust ever.

During the tenure of former player Matt Millen as President and CEO of the Detroit Lions (http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/6-nfl-teams-that-have-choked-away-the-most-wins-in-nfl-history.html/) in the 2000s, there were many bad drafts. But one that sticks out in most peoples’ minds occurred in 2003, when the team picked Michigan State wide receiver Charles Rogers second overall.

Expectations were high after he won the Biletnikoff Award for being the country’s best WR. Sports writers even compared him to future Hall of Famers like Randy Moss. But in his first two seasons, Rogers broke his collarbone twice and only played six games. In 2005, the league suspended him following his third violation of the NFL’s drug policy. This led to his eventual outright release.

Clipper Nation

04-12-2018, 08:36 PM

Charles Rogers was not a QB, dumbass. My exact words were "biggest bust QB ever."

Avante

04-12-2018, 08:51 PM

Charles Rogers was not a QB, dumbass. My exact words were "biggest bust QB ever."

So used to you being 100% wrong all the time, I 'm conditioned ya understand.

Have you ever actually been right about anyone?

Avante

05-01-2018, 01:51 AM

Imagine defenses geared to stop one guy and that guy still averaged over 5 yards a carry.

Jim Brown was 6-2 230 pounds with 4.5 speed in the 60's. Back then we still had white cornerbacks and d linemen at 240.

Only Don Hutson compares to Jim Brown when it comes to dominating an era.

From Marion Motley to Jim Brown to Leroy Kelly.

Blake

05-01-2018, 08:46 AM

:lol drafting Baker and nick chubb

Avante

05-01-2018, 10:23 PM

Ohio State had a slim speedy RB named Paul Warfield, he was also a 26-2 long jumper who competed for the USA vs Russia. He....slithered....with ball in hand. He looked like a WR. Well as a Brown, yep....WR.

Nobody made it look as effortless as this guy, in a word....smooth. Yep, Hall of Fame.

Paul Dryden Warfield was born in Warren, Ohio (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Warren,_Ohio). His father, Dryden Warfield, was a deacon in a Baptist (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Baptist) church.[1] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note--1) Warfield attended Warren G. Harding High School (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Warren_G._Harding_High_School) in Warren, where he was a star running back (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Running_back) and defensive back (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Defensive_back) for the Panthers. He scored 92 points as a junior in 1958,[2] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-2) a campaign highlighted by a 6–0 victory over powerhouse Massillon Washington High School (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Massillon_Washington_High_School).[3] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-3) The following season, as a senior he scored 93 points, including all three of his team's touchdowns in the final game of the season.[4] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-4) As a basketball player he was noted for his speed, often leading fast breaks (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Fast_break).[5] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-5) He also ran track and field (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Track_and_field) at Warren G. Harding, and was the state broad jump (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Broad_jump) champion in 1957.[6] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-6) He set state records in the broad jump, 100-yard dash (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/100-yard_dash), and 180-yard hurdles (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Hurdles).[7] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-7)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBHfvFPZwaQ

Avante

05-01-2018, 11:06 PM

How many teams had a HOF to be QB/RB/WR all there together?

The Browns did with Otto Graham/Marion Motley/Dante Levelli

Hmmmm?

Terry Bradshaw/Franco Harris/John Stallworth & Lynn Swann
Bob Griese/Larry Csonka/Paul Warfield
Troy Aikman/Emmitt Smith/Michael Irvin
Jim Kelly/Thurman Thomas/Andre Reed

The Rams had a fantastic offense in the 50's with Norm Van Brocklin/Bob Waterfield at QB, Tom Fears/Crazy Legs Hirsh at WR and the first two big black power backs on the same team in Tank Younger***/Deacon Towler. Van Brocklin and both receivers in the HOF.

*** first Grambling player in pro football

My Niners had a HOF to be QB in Y.A.Tittle and three RB's Joe "Jet" Perry***, John Henry Johnson (big seasons a Steeler), Hugh "King" McElhenny.

*** first black to have a 1000 yard season. First player to have consecutive 1000 yard seasons. Still...the only player in NFL history to have a 1000 yard season who only played JC ball***

*** Cookie Gilchrist the first AFLer to have a 1000 yard season went straight from HS to the CFL, then the AFL.

trivia

The Browns once had an Olympic decathlon gold medal winner at RB, who?

Blake

05-02-2018, 12:01 PM

:lol drafting nick chubb

SpursforSix

05-02-2018, 12:40 PM

Avante

05-03-2018, 12:41 AM

How can you forget Unitas, Moore, and Berry?

I was just talking about that trio, and they had a HOF TE in John Mackey. The only team to have a HOFer at QB/RB/WR/TE all there together.

That Chargers gang of Dan Fouts, Chuxk Muncie, Kellen Winslow, Charlie Joiner, John Jefferson (then Wes Chandler) pretty special. Fouts, Winslow and Joiner in the HOF.

Another Charger gang of QB Tobin Rote, FB Keith Lincoln, RB Paul Lowe, WR Lance Alworth deserve mention. Alworth the first AFLer in the HOF.

Avante

05-06-2018, 11:37 PM

Early on Jim Brown a FB had the speedy Bobby Mitchell at RB. After Mitchell was traded who took over at RB, no not Leroy Kelly, he took over after Brown was gone. Well?

Who was the QB of those teams with Brown?

Blake

05-08-2018, 08:07 AM

Go eat a dick

SpursforSix

05-08-2018, 10:15 AM

Go eat a dick

Translation...talk to me about dem blues

Cheetoh "John" Mills got his start singing during lunch in the penitentiary. He was convicted of killing his mom's husband but John always claimed he was innocent.
He protested by not eating his slop but instead would stand on a table and belt out blues songs he wrote himself. He was shot by a guard in his second day in the pen.
No recordings exist of this legend.

Blake

05-08-2018, 10:53 AM

How did Cheetoh get the nickname "John"

SpursforSix

05-08-2018, 11:02 AM

How did Cheetoh get the nickname "John"

now you're asking the right questions...I've got books and books on these things but you won't find everything in a book...some of it...ya just have to know

when he was younger...in his teens, Cheetoh had stomach problems (probably due to a combination of bad diet and lead in the water).
He couldn't eat a meal without having to go to the bathroom 10 minutes later. One day, he was pooping on the toilet down at the gas station and he noticed
a poem written on the stall wall. When he left, the gas pumper said, "see ya later John". And it stuck with him ever since.

Blake

05-08-2018, 11:49 AM

I figured it would either be toilet or prostitute related. You're definitely the go-to when it comes to background on nicknames.

And track, blues and HBCU schools.

Avante

05-08-2018, 02:12 PM

Translation...talk to me about dem blues

Cheetoh "John" Mills got his start singing during lunch in the penitentiary. He was convicted of killing his mom's husband but John always claimed he was innocent.
He protested by not eating his slop but instead would stand on a table and belt out blues songs he wrote himself. He was shot by a guard in his second day in the pen.
No recordings exist of this legend.

Always get a kick out of know nothings in with a know it all. How they act is funny.

My home library is full of books on the black experience, yep, from Africa to Mississippi to Chicago. Them old blues coupled with the trials and tribulations of blacks in a white world, very interesting.

Big Ben Stevenson played football for Tuskegee Institute, his size speed (9.8) combo rare for his era. Why not Google this legend, actually learn something.

Howard Drew was the fav to win the 1916 Olympics, but an injury ruined that, it would have been the first black 100m Oly gold medalist. He was the first "Worlds Fastest Human" and the first black to hold a sprint WR at 9.6. Google this all time great, learn something.

Freezone recorded but one song...Indian Squaw Blues....in 1928, nobody knows his real name or how he was recorded and only one song..? A blues mystery.

The books of Richard Wright, Raph Ellison, James Baldwin a must read. The music of Blind Lemon Jefferson, Ma Rainey, Robert Johnson, Gus Cannon Jug Band, a must listen. The sprinting of Bullet Bob Hayes, Tommie Smith and the runs of Gale Sayers, Barry Sanders a must see (youtube).\

You really do need to get out of under trying to be funny and actually learn things, being a know nothing clown, not a good look.

Hell, let me help ya get started.

https://www.cfbhall.com/about/blog/throwback-thursday-ben-stevenson/

SpursforSix

05-08-2018, 02:15 PM

Always get a kick out of know nothings in with a know it all. How they act is funny.

My home library is full of books on the black experience, yep, from Africa to Mississippi to Chicago. Them old blues coupled with the trials and tribulations of blacks in a white world, very interesting.

Big Ben Stevenson played football for Tuskegee Institute, his size speed (9.8) combo rare for his era. Why not Google this legend, actually learn something.

Howard Drew was the fav to win the 1916 Olympics, but an injury ruined that, it would have been the first black 100m Oly gold medalist. He was the first "Worlds Fastest Human" and the first black to hold a sprint WR at 9.6. Google this all time great, learn something.

Freezone recorded but one song...Indian Squaw Blues....in 1928, nobody knows his real name or how he was recorded and only one song..? A blues mystery.

The books of Richard Wright, Raph Ellison, James Baldwin a must read. The music of Blind Lemon Jefferson, Ma Rainey, Robert Johnson, Gus Cannon Jug Band, a must listen. The sprinting of Bullet Bob Hayes, Tommie Smith and the runs of Gale Sayers, Barry Sanders a must see (youtube).\

You really do need to get out of under trying to be funny and actually learn things, being a know nothing clown, not a good look.

Hell, let me help ya get started.

Why don't you tell me how Pee Pee the Kidnapper got his name? It's the holy grail of trivia.

SpursforSix

05-08-2018, 02:18 PM

Kidnappings are unheard of on the island where Peanut lives. Kidnapping of children by children is an impossibility – until Peanut’s friend becomes a victim of such a dastardly plot. But Peanut is not about to let her friend come to any harm and the tiny heroine springs into action to save her best friend.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/514M6OeOr4L.jpg

Avante

05-08-2018, 02:21 PM

Why don't you tell me how Pee Pee the Kidnapper got his name? It's the holy grail of trivia.

Dude, you try way too hard at...see see see me everyone I funny huh? Why?

Here ya have a guy who could teach you/everyone a ton and all I see is a bunch dumbasses acting stupid. I'd be taking notes, expanding my knowledge.

Peanut the Kidnapper is a tiny/minor footnote in them blues. He made...0...impact. But since you are intriqued by the cat why don't you do some research like I do. Where was he from, when did he record? How did he get that name?

Dude, why is it you never do anything other than...I.M AN EXPERT...but ya NEVER EVER look like one.

Avante

05-08-2018, 02:23 PM

SpursforSix

05-08-2018, 02:25 PM

Dude, you try way too hard at...see see see me everyone I funny huh? Why?

Here ya have a guy who could teach you/everyone a ton and all I see is a bunch dumbasses acting stupid. I'd be taking notes, expanding my knowledge.

Peanut the Kidnapper is a tiny/minor footnote in them blues. He made...0...impact. But since you are intriqued by the cat why don't you do some research like I do. Where was he from, when did he record? How did he get that name?

Dude, why is it you never do anything other than...I.M AN EXPERT...but ya NEVER EVER look like one.

Seriously...why don't we know more about Peanut the Kidnapper? How did he get his nickname?
Do you know? Expert?

SpursforSix

05-08-2018, 02:26 PM

You're retarded.

Lighten up old timer. I was actually doing something I never do...Googling. To see if there were any leads on how Peanut the Kidnapper got his name.

Avante

05-08-2018, 02:26 PM

Seriously...why don't we know more about Peanut the Kidnapper? How did he get his nickname?
Do you know? Expert?

We do know about the cat, YOU don;t know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_ZfOFZB89w

SpursforSix

05-08-2018, 02:30 PM

We do know about the cat, YOU don;t know.

so tell me how he got his nickname

Avante

05-08-2018, 02:40 PM

so tell me how he got his nickname

His real name was James Sherrill. He had a bulldog named Peanut. His neighbor who lived about a mile down an Alabama dirt road stold Peanut. When James found this out he was pissed but a bit relieved because he thought Peanut was dead. So he goes to get Peanut back, the neighbor swore Peanut had kiiled his prize rooster so he wanted 20 dollars for damages. And if he didn't get it he's keeping peanut, a kidnapping....sorta. Well James pays the ransom and gets Peanut back.

When James went to Birmingham to record he told the story, one of the cats doing the recording came up with Peanut The Kidnapper. James hated it. Birmingham big on nicknames....

Bullet Williams
Jaybird Coleman
Boweavil Jackson
Barefoot Bill

...etc

SpursforSix

05-08-2018, 02:42 PM

His real name was James Sherrill. He had a bulldog named Peanut. His neighbor who lived about a mile down an Alabama dirt road stold Peanut. When James found this out he was pissed but a bit relieved because he thought Peanut was dead. So he goes to get Peanut back, the neighbor swore Peanut had kiiled his prize rooster so he wanted 20 dollars for damages. And if he didn't get it he's keeping peanut, a kidnapping....sorta. Well James pays the ransom and gets Peanut back.

When JAmes went to Birmingham to record he told the story, one of the cats doing the recording came up with Peanut The Kidnapper. James hated it.

Makes sense. Thanks.

Avante

05-08-2018, 02:44 PM

Makes sense. Thanks.

Dude, 100% bullshit, ok? Just playing your stupid crap.

Nobody has a clue why he called himself Peanut the Kidnapper.

Avante

05-08-2018, 02:49 PM

I can't talk...

soccer
baseball
lacrosse
golf
romance novels
opera
ballet
auto mechanics/cars

(other than the obvious Babe Ruth, Pele etc)

Yep, no interest.

What I am interested in...

football
blues
music in general
sci fi/heroic fantasy literature
the rasslin'
track and field

...I have covered 100%.

Love how people act over my knowledge, fucking funny.

Avante

05-08-2018, 03:04 PM

Lighten up old timer. I was actually doing something I never do...Googling. To see if there were any leads on how Peanut the Kidnapper got his name.

Dude, being that....old timer.....why do you fight the knowledge like ya do? Born in 1949, don't you think I might have picked up on a few things since then?

And, I am a need to know everything about my interests, so I do the homework. Why not learn things instead of actiing like a little jerk over it?

Saw all white SEC/SWC football. Saw Cassius Clay box. A no The Beatles, musical world. A no Dallas Cowboys NFL.

JoeTait75

06-15-2018, 08:40 PM

Bump. Gonna see some wins this year, boys. That's right- wins. Like, plural.

Avante

06-15-2018, 09:22 PM

Bump. Gonna see some wins this year, boys. That's right- wins. Like, plural.

6-10 wouldn't shock me.

And....by 2020 a wild card berth....a legit possibility.

Blake

06-16-2018, 01:38 AM

Bump. Gonna see some wins this year, boys. That's right- wins. Like, plural.

No thanks to Mayfield. He's been pretty underwhelming in camp.

But that's the browns way huh

JoeTait75

06-16-2018, 08:02 AM

No thanks to Mayfield. He's been pretty underwhelming in camp.

But that's the browns way huh

It's always good to hear from a neutral observer. :lol

monosylab1k

06-16-2018, 04:54 PM

I just need the Browns to keep getting fleeced by Belichick on trades until Brady retires. After that I’ll root for their success. The Raiders were our fleecing pipeline until they figured out what was happening.

JoeTait75

06-16-2018, 08:39 PM

This team, even at 1-31, has more actual NFL players than most if not all of the 4-12/5-11 editions of the Browns (probably not saying much, but still.) They've been young, poorly coached and probably one of the most mistake-prone teams ever (-40 turnover margin the last two years) but they aren't completely bereft of talent.

Avante

06-18-2018, 09:49 PM

Let's see...

L...Pitt, NO, Oak,
W...NYJ,

...fuck that...5...wins, and would go 4 before 6.

Raven

06-19-2018, 03:08 PM

not looking good.

JoeTait75

09-20-2018, 11:51 PM

BUMP at 1-1-1. Won't be the last win of the season either, I reckon.

tlongII

09-21-2018, 12:14 PM

Baker Mayfield looks very good. His skillset is similar to Aaron Rodgers in my opinion.

spurraider21

11-12-2018, 09:41 PM

:lol drafting Baker and nick chubb

Yeah, you got Hyde, why even draft a RB in the 2nd round. They need a line.

Just stupid.

Chubb was an injury prone reach that took a 4 year beating in the sec.

Bad pick to take an RB here. Worse idea to take chubb.
:lol atheist blake

Blake

11-13-2018, 11:41 AM

Lol hey they got a win!

Chubb's numbers are an impressive 6+ypc thanks to about 4 carries for 200 yards. The remaining 90 carries come out to about 4.2 ypc. Still solid.

By next year the defenses will have plenty of film on Baker as well.

I'll be okay with eating crow on these guys but I'm still betting I'll be loling at you guys browns stocks crashing by this time next year.

spurraider21

11-13-2018, 01:03 PM

JohnnyD

11-13-2018, 03:03 PM

Like I mentioned it's real obvious Chubb has "it", how anyone could miss it, ???

Very realistic to have some doubts with any short QB at the NFL level.

Blake

11-13-2018, 03:37 PM

yeah if you take away his biggest plays his stats are only good but not great!

:lol

Well yeah.

It was a reach to take a rb like Chubb in the 2nd round. If he really had "it", he would have been a 1st round pick after his junior year.

Blake

11-13-2018, 03:38 PM

Like I mentioned it's real obvious Chubb has "it", how anyone could miss it, ???

Very realistic to have some doubts with any short QB at the NFL level.

K, when do you expect Chubb to be in the MVP conversation?

This year? Next year?

spurraider21

11-13-2018, 03:49 PM

Well yeah.

It was a reach to take a rb like Chubb in the 2nd round. If he really had "it", he would have been a 1st round pick after his junior year.
hard to get drafted when you return to college for a senior season

JohnnyD

11-13-2018, 03:56 PM

K, when do you expect Chubb to be in the MVP conversation?

This year? Next year?

How about a..."ok, I was wrong about the guy"...ok?

JohnnyD

11-13-2018, 04:03 PM

Well yeah.

It was a reach to take a rb like Chubb in the 2nd round. If he really had "it", he would have been a 1st round pick after his junior year.

Dude, what is wrong with you?

He averaged...

frosh...7.1
soph...8.1
junior...5.0
senior...6.0

He scored 44 TD's in the SEC.

That isn't having "it"

And, he made it clear he was coming back for a senior season

Come on guy.

The second ALL TIME SEC rushing leader doesn;t have "it" ?

Rk
Player
Yds
From
To
School

1
Herschel Walker (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/herschel-walker-1.html)
5259
1980
1982
Georgia (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/georgia/)

2
Nick Chubb (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/nick-chubb-1.html)*
4769
2014
2017
Georgia (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/georgia/)

3
Darren McFadden (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/darren-mcfadden-1.html)*
4590
2005
2007
Arkansas (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/arkansas/)

4
Kevin Faulk (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/kevin-faulk-1.html)
4557
1995
1998
LSU (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/louisiana-state/)

5
Bo Jackson (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/bo-jackson-1.html)
4303
1982
1985
Auburn (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/auburn/)

6
Ralph Webb (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/ralph-webb-1.html)*
4178
2014
2017
Vanderbilt (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/vanderbilt/)

7
Errict Rhett (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/errict-rhett-1.html)
4163
1989
1993
Florida (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/florida/)

8
Dalton Hilliard (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/dalton-hilliard-2.html)
4050
1982
1985
LSU (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/louisiana-state/)

9
Charles Alexander (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/charles-alexander-1.html)
4035
1975
1978
LSU (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/louisiana-state/)

10
Anthony Dixon (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/anthony-dixon-1.html)*
3994
2006
2009
Mississippi State (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/mississippi-state/)

11
Emmitt Smith (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/emmitt-smith-1.html)
3928
1987
1989
Florida (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/florida/)

12
Sonny Collins (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/sonny-collins-1.html)
3835
1972
1975
Kentucky (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/kentucky/)

13
Carnell Williams (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/carnell-williams-1.html)*
3831
2001
2004
Auburn (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/auburn/)

14
Leonard Fournette (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/leonard-fournette-1.html)*
3830
2014
2016
LSU (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/louisiana-state/)

15
Alex Collins (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/alex-collins-1.html)*
3703
2013
2015
Arkansas (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/arkansas/)

16
Sony Michel (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/sony-michel-1.html)*
3613
2014
2017
Georgia (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/georgia/)

17
Derrick Henry (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/derrick-henry-2.html)*
3591
2013
2015
Alabama (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/alabama/)

18
Shaun Alexander (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/shaun-alexander-1.html)
3565
1996
1999
Alabama (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/alabama/)

19
Benjamin Snell Jr. (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/benjamin-snell-jr-1.html)*
3538
2016
2018
Kentucky (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/kentucky/)

20
James Brooks (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/james-brooks-2.html)
3523
1977
1980
Auburn (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/auburn/)

So he leaves the college game as the SEC's second all time rusher, by half way into his first NFL season he breaks a Jim Brown record.

Blake, time do do something you NEVER do, let's see a...."ok ok ok I was wrong".

You really think the NFL wasn;t aware of this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QLEYmSsKnc

Blake

11-13-2018, 05:19 PM

How about a..."ok, I was wrong about the guy"...ok?

How about you define "it"

Blake

11-13-2018, 05:20 PM

Dude, what is wrong with you?

He averaged...

frosh...7.1
soph...8.1
junior...5.0
senior...6.0

He scored 44 TD's in the SEC.

That isn't having "it"

And, he made it clear he was coming back for a senior season

Come on guy.

The second ALL TIME SEC rushing leader doesn;t have "it" ?

Rk
Player
Yds
From
To
School

1
Herschel Walker (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/herschel-walker-1.html)
5259
1980
1982
Georgia (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/georgia/)

2
Nick Chubb (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/nick-chubb-1.html)*
4769
2014
2017
Georgia (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/georgia/)

3
Darren McFadden (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/darren-mcfadden-1.html)*
4590
2005
2007
Arkansas (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/arkansas/)

4
Kevin Faulk (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/kevin-faulk-1.html)
4557
1995
1998
LSU (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/louisiana-state/)

5
Bo Jackson (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/bo-jackson-1.html)
4303
1982
1985
Auburn (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/auburn/)

6
Ralph Webb (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/ralph-webb-1.html)*
4178
2014
2017
Vanderbilt (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/vanderbilt/)

7
Errict Rhett (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/errict-rhett-1.html)
4163
1989
1993
Florida (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/florida/)

8
Dalton Hilliard (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/dalton-hilliard-2.html)
4050
1982
1985
LSU (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/louisiana-state/)

9
Charles Alexander (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/charles-alexander-1.html)
4035
1975
1978
LSU (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/louisiana-state/)

10
Anthony Dixon (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/anthony-dixon-1.html)*
3994
2006
2009
Mississippi State (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/mississippi-state/)

11
Emmitt Smith (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/emmitt-smith-1.html)
3928
1987
1989
Florida (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/florida/)

12
Sonny Collins (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/sonny-collins-1.html)
3835
1972
1975
Kentucky (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/kentucky/)

13
Carnell Williams (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/carnell-williams-1.html)*
3831
2001
2004
Auburn (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/auburn/)

14
Leonard Fournette (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/leonard-fournette-1.html)*
3830
2014
2016
LSU (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/louisiana-state/)

15
Alex Collins (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/alex-collins-1.html)*
3703
2013
2015
Arkansas (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/arkansas/)

16
Sony Michel (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/sony-michel-1.html)*
3613
2014
2017
Georgia (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/georgia/)

17
Derrick Henry (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/derrick-henry-2.html)*
3591
2013
2015
Alabama (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/alabama/)

18
Shaun Alexander (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/shaun-alexander-1.html)
3565
1996
1999
Alabama (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/alabama/)

19
Benjamin Snell Jr. (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/benjamin-snell-jr-1.html)*
3538
2016
2018
Kentucky (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/kentucky/)

20
James Brooks (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/james-brooks-2.html)
3523
1977
1980
Auburn (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/auburn/)

So he leaves the college game as the SEC's second all time rusher, by half way into his first NFL season he breaks a Jim Brown record.

Blake, time do do something you NEVER do, let's see a...."ok ok ok I was wrong".

You really think the NFL wasn;t aware of this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QLEYmSsKnc

K, why didn't he go first round if he had "it"

Blake

11-13-2018, 05:21 PM

hard to get drafted when you return to college for a senior season

True. I guess we'll never know.

The only thing we do know is he was drafted in the 2nd round by a horribly run Browns team.

JohnnyD

11-13-2018, 05:36 PM

How about you define "it"

You simply can't do it can you? Gotta try everything ya can to get off...ok ok I was wrong.

Dude, I saw "it" before he ever took a snap at Georgia and talked about it.

I knew all about his HS expliots and what a great RB looks like. He was a can't miss.

An...."it"...is a RB with that size/speed/vision/quicks combo, a guy who breaks arm tackles and can go the distance. A total package which he obviously is.

Blake you were 100% wrong why not be a man and simply admit it.

Right now there is a frosh at Auburn named Anthony Schwartz, he played WR/DB in HS. He is the fastest footballer in the world, yep, faster than Tyreek Hill. Now he might suck but you are now aware of him. I follow this stuff guy.

100m PR 10.15, Hill 10.19

Being an immature pest if you happen to see this kid in an Auburn game and he drops a pass...."he dropped a pass he sucks". Dude, grow up, ok?

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Personal information

Nationality
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Born
September 5, 2000 (age 18)
Pembroke Pines, Florida (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembroke_Pines,_Florida)

Residence
Auburn, Alabama (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auburn,_Alabama)

Height
6 ft 0 in (1.83 m)

Weight
175 lb (79 kg)

Sport

Sport
Track and field (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Track_and_field), American football (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football)

Event(s)
Sprints (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_%28running%29)

College team
Auburn University (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auburn_University)

Achievements and titles

Personal best(s)
100 m: 10.07 (Albuquerque (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albuquerque,_New_Mexico) 2018)
200 m: 20.05 (Jacksonville (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacksonville,_Florida) 2018)

Anthony Schwartz (born September 5, 2000) is an American (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) sprint (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_%28running%29) athlete. He attends Auburn University (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auburn_University) in Auburn, Alabama (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auburn,_Alabama). Schwartz set a new Boys' World Youth Best (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_youth_bests_in_athletics) of 10.15 seconds over 100 metres on March 31, 2017.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Schwartz_%28athlete%29#cite_note-1)
A native of Pembroke Pines, Florida (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembroke_Pines,_Florida), Schwartz also played football in high school, and was ranked the No. 22 prospect in the state by Rivals.com (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivals.com).[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Schwartz_%28athlete%29#cite_note-2) On February 7, 2018, Schwartz signed a national letter of intent to play football and run track for the Auburn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auburn_University) Tigers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auburn_Tigers).[3]

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Schwartz_%28athlete%29#cite_note-3)

Blake

11-13-2018, 06:08 PM

Oh hey a wall of text with no real definition of what "it" really means. No way

spurraider21

11-13-2018, 06:09 PM

True. I guess we'll never know.

The only thing we do know is he was drafted in the 2nd round by a horribly run Browns team.
i think dorsey is turning the ship.

they signed hyde and traded him after half a season for a mid round pick. so they basically just got a free midround pick and look to have a stud in chubb on a much cheaper deal

JohnnyD

11-13-2018, 06:18 PM

Oh hey a wall of text with no definition of "it". No way

Well if you would have read what was posted, you would have read,

An...."it"...is a RB with that size/speed/vision/quicks combo, a guy who breaks arm tackles and can go the distance. A total package which he obviously is.

Come on guy all this crap because you were totally wrong, are you for real?

By the way Cowboy freak Skip Bayless also talking about Zeke having lost a step. Just look at him at OSU and now, there is no doubt he's not the same.

Blake

11-13-2018, 06:21 PM

Well if you would have read what was posted, you would have read,

An...."it"...is a RB with that size/speed/vision/quicks combo, a guy who breaks arm tackles and can go the distance. A total package which he obviously is.

Come on guy all this crap because you were totally wrong, are you for real?

Neh, I rarely read your text walls and YouTubes.

So what is Chubbs ceiling and why didn't he go first round?

JohnnyD

11-13-2018, 06:25 PM

Neh, I rarely read your text walls and YouTubes.

So what is Chubbs ceiling and why didn't he go first round?

How about a....ok sorry I see you did define "it".....ok guy? And if you aren't reading me then why even bother with you?

Dude, you were 100% wrong about Chubb now it's time to own it, got it?

Blake

11-13-2018, 06:26 PM

How about a....ok sorry I see you did define "it".....ok guy? And if you aren't reading me then why even bother with you?

Dude, ypu were 100% wrong about Chubb so it's time to own it, got it?

K, why didn't he go in the 1st round if he had "it".

Gurley clearly had "it". We all saw "it". That's why he went in the 1st round.

JohnnyD

11-13-2018, 06:28 PM

K, why didn't he go in the 1st round if he had "it".

Why did you say I didn't define "IT" when I most certainly did? Well?

Blake

11-13-2018, 06:30 PM

Why did you say I didn't define "IT" when I most certainly did? Well?

You defined what a whole bunch of average NFL running backs can do.

Why didn't Chubb go in the 1st round if he had "it"?

Why are you avoiding this question?

JohnnyD

11-13-2018, 06:39 PM

You defined what a whole bunch of average NFL running backs can do.

Why didn't Chubb go in the 1st round if he had "it"?

Why are you avoiding this question?

Why do you ignore what I post? You said I didn't even define "IT" when I sure did....why lie?

And you mentioned Todd Gurley, dude compare what Gurley did vs what Chubb did while at Georgia, ok? Stop talking about things you know nothing about, ok?

You were wrong guy time to admit it.

Blake

11-13-2018, 08:15 PM

Why do you ignore what I post? You said I didn't even define "IT" when I sure did....why lie?

And you mentioned Todd Gurley, dude compare what Gurley did vs what Chubb did while at Georgia, ok? Stop talking about things you know nothing about, ok?

You were wrong guy time to admit it.

You and I disagree on what having "it" means. I think of "it" being hall of fame potential.

Do you think Chubb will be in the hall of fame?

JohnnyD

11-13-2018, 08:24 PM

You and I disagree on what having "it" means. I think of "it" being hall of fame potential.

Do you think Chubb will be in the hall of fame?

Dude, nobody was ever talking about Chubb being anything other than a solid NFL RB , ok? Stop with all this crap trying to hide the fact you were 100% wrong about the guy.

College coachs see HS kids as having "it" ok guy?

Blake

11-13-2018, 08:52 PM

Dude, nobody was ever talking about Chubb being anything other than a solid NFL RB , ok? Stop with all this crap trying to hide the fact you were 100% wrong about the guy.

College coachs see HS kids as having "it" ok guy?

Lol now Chubb is reduced to just a solid rb.

We're done here

JohnnyD

11-13-2018, 09:02 PM

Lol now Chubb is reduced to just a solid rb.

We're done here

The minute you refused to...ok ok ok I was wrong.....you were done. Funny watching you worming around trying everything to never say....I was wrong.

Dude, always get a kick out of you, you're so damn small.

Maybe the next time I say,....keep an eye on......you;'ll refrain from...."see see see see he only averaged 3.8".........as if he'd never play another game. You're so rookie it's comical.

spurraider21

11-14-2018, 02:41 AM

why didnt leveon bell get taken in the first round?

thats such a horrible argument :lol

JohnnyD

11-14-2018, 04:15 AM

why didnt leveon bell get taken in the first round?

thats such a horrible argument :lol

Bell or Chubb can't compare to first rounder Trent Richardson that's for sure.

Hall of Famers

Second Round

Year

Player

Overall

Pos.

Team

1936
"Tuffy" Leemans
18
FB-HB
New York Giants

1937
Clarence "Ace" Parker
13
QB
Brooklyn Dodgers

1950
Ernie Stautner
22
DT
Pittsburgh Steelers (Also selected in 1st round of 1949 secret two-round AAFC draft by the San Francisco 49ers.)

1951
Dick Stanfel
19
G
Detroit Lions

1951
Bill George
23
LB
Chicago Bears(Drafted as future selection.)

1952
Gino Marchetti
14
DE
New York Yanks (Two days after the draft, the Yanks franchise was sold back to the NFL. All assets and players were granted to the new Dallas Texans.)

1953
John Henry Johnson
18
FB
Pittsburgh Steelers (Played in the Canadian Football League in 1953. Negotiating rights were traded to San Francisco 49ers before the 1954 season.)

1956
Forrest Gregg
20
T
Green Bay Packers

1958
Jim Taylor
15
FB
Green Bay Packers

1961 AFL
Billy Shaw
n/a
G
Buffalo Bills (Also selected in the 14th round - 184th overall - of 1961 NFL Draft by the Dallas Cowboys.)

1962 AFL
Lance Alworth
9
FL
Oakland Raiders (Also drafted in 1st round - 8th overall - of 1962 NFL Draft by the San Francisco 49ers.)

1963
John Mackey
19
TE
Baltimore Colts (Also drafted in 5th round - 35th overall -of 1963 AFL Draft by the New York Titans.)

1964
Mel Renfro
17
DB
Dallas Cowboys (Also drafted in 10th round -79th overall- of 1964 AFL Draft by the Oakland Raiders.)

1964
Paul Krause
18
S
Washington Redskins (Also drafted in 12th round -89th overall- of 1964 AFL Draft by the Denver Broncos.)

1965 AFL
Fred Biletnikoff
n/a
WR
Oakland Raiders (Also drafted in 3rd round -39th overall- of 1965 NFL Draft by the Detroit Lions.)

1967
Lem Barney
34
CB
Detroit Lions

1967
Willie Lanier
50
LB
Kansas City Chiefs

1968
Curley Culp
31
DT
Denver Broncos

1968
Ken Stabler
52
QB
Oakland Raiders

1969
Ted Hendricks
33
LB
Baltimore Colts

1971
Jack Ham
34
LB
Pittsburgh Steelers

1971
Dan Dierdorf
43
T
St. Louis Cardinals

1974
Dave Casper
45
TE
Oakland Raiders

1974
Jack Lambert
46
LB
Pittsburgh Steelers

1975
Fred Dean
33
DE
San Diego Chargers

1980
Dwight Stephenson
48
C
Miami Dolphins

1981
Mike Singletary
38
LB
Chicago Bears

1981
Howie Long
48
DE
Oakland Raiders

1981
Rickey Jackson
51
LB
New Orleans Saints

1982
Andre Tippett
41
LB
New England Patriots

1988

Thurman Thomas

40

RB

Buffalo Bills

1988

Dermontti Dawson

44

C

Pittsburgh Steelers

1991

Brett Favre

33

QB

PAtlanta Falcons

1993

Michael Strahan

40

DE

New York Giants

1994

Larry Allen

46

G/T

Dallas Cowboys

Blake needs to stop talking pro football. The guy is totally clueless.

Blake

11-14-2018, 08:23 AM

why didnt leveon bell get taken in the first round?

thats such a horrible argument :lol

He had "it". Anyone could see "it".

Kobe'sAchilles

11-14-2018, 04:29 PM

Baker is/was clearly the best option of the 5 quarterbacks. Allen and Jackson can't hit an open receiver. Rosen doesn't know how to lead or exude any confidence in others at all. Plus one hit and he's back on IR. Sam Darnold is the definition of a loser to me. He doesn't know how to carry a franchise and always seems to wilt when he's forced to. He crumbled at USC when he was expected to lead them to the CFP and contend for a Heisman. He crumbles in the NFL when he is basically the team and misses open throws or makes some really stupid decisions. The Jets looked like the quit last week and say what you want about Baker, but he won't allow anyone to quit on him. My main gripe Darnold is that right now he's a rhythm quarterback who doesn't know how to deal with adversity. When things go well then he plays well, but the moment things don't go his way, he can't right the ship.