The new XBox 360 is going to kick a ridiculous amount of ass. [Archive]

CharlieMac

08-11-2005, 11:45 AM

I have no idea how much it's going to cost.

I was think of an argument I could make to my wife so that she would allow me to buy it. I was thinking something along the lines of, "The entertainment the 360 will provide will be more than enough so that we won't spend so much money on going to movies and going out to eat for dinner. It's a gift the whole family can enjoy, so we'd save money on your birthday too when I don't have to buy you a present!"

I hope it works.

Mixability

08-11-2005, 11:46 AM

Mixability

08-11-2005, 11:51 AM

on a related note, i wish nintendo would drop out of the console race and stick to making games......... a new Mario game on the Xbox360.......awesome

duncan_21

08-11-2005, 11:53 AM

Mixability

08-11-2005, 11:55 AM

If I am going to buy the 360, I'm gonna wait until the 3rd generation is out and whether or not they will incorporate mouse/keyboard controls for fps and rts games. Otherwise If there are some good racing/3rd person shooters, and platformer games I might get one.

i hope they don't incorporate mouse/keyboard controls into it, because if I wanted to play pc type games, i'd play on a pc. but i'm sure that it will have usb ports, so it leaves the opportunity open.

CharlieMac

08-11-2005, 12:00 PM

Mixability

08-11-2005, 12:05 PM

Gates is getting Halo 3 ready to be released around teh time the PS3 is due out. That dude loves power.

It's safe to say that GameCube was a bust. Although, I really enjoyed Luigi's Mansion when it first came out. It was just all downhill from there. I saw somewhere that Nintendo was working on a new console. Supposedly you'll be able to download everygame they've ever released.

Halo 3 better be alot better than than Halo 2 or Halo 1.5 as I like to know it. the GameCube sucked, every game is either Mario this, DonkeyKong that, or the Pokemon crap. Good riddance. The Nintendo Revolution is nothing more than another kid's console.

Mixability

08-11-2005, 12:07 PM

side note: newly released games will now be $60 instead of $50

duncan_21

08-11-2005, 12:36 PM

side note: newly released games will now be $60 instead of $50

2 words for that: THAT SUCKS!!!!!

Mixability

08-11-2005, 12:42 PM

2 words for that: THAT SUCKS!!!!!

yup, and for that extra $10 bucks, they better last longer than most of the recent games that have come out

spursfor

08-11-2005, 12:44 PM

Even the ESPN games who went for half the price as the regular games will now be $60 Damn you Bill Gates.

Mixability

08-11-2005, 12:46 PM

Even the ESPN games who went for half the price as the regular games will now be $60 Damn you Bill Gates.

I'm pretty sure ESPN will be able to keep their prices down, but be prepared to shell out $60 for Halo 3 or the new Project Gotham Racing. maybe even $75 for the so-called collectors editions! :pctoss

spursfor

08-11-2005, 12:52 PM

I'm pretty sure ESPN will be able to keep their prices down, but be prepared to shell out $60 for Halo 3 or the new Project Gotham Racing. maybe even $75 for the so-called collectors editions! :pctoss
Yea thats going to be dick for the special editions, although proces will go down once PS2's and regular X-boxes become more uncommon or at least I hope so.

Mixability

08-11-2005, 12:54 PM

Yea thats going to be dick for the special editions, although proces will go down once PS2's and regular X-boxes become more uncommon or at least I hope so.

i just hope Xbox 360 is backwards compatible
if so, then :elephant

duncan_21

08-11-2005, 12:55 PM

I'm pretty sure ESPN will be able to keep their prices down, but be prepared to shell out $60 for Halo 3 or the new Project Gotham Racing. maybe even $75 for the so-called collectors editions! :pctoss

And Halo 2 sucked in comparison to pc fps. I just hope some good games come out for the new consoles. Great graphics are cool but don't guarantee a great game, doom 3 anybody?

batman2883

08-11-2005, 12:56 PM

Will i be able to watch Hudson Hawk on the new XBOX

Mixability

08-11-2005, 01:32 PM

And Halo 2 sucked in comparison to pc fps. I just hope some good games come out for the new consoles. Great graphics are cool but don't guarantee a great game, doom 3 anybody?

Halo 2 was just a little rushed, they should've taken more time with it. Oh well, they got my money anyway.

The new crop of NBA games better blow me away and they better give Duncan a better rating!!!!

Sense

08-11-2005, 01:51 PM

Halo 3 better be alot better than than Halo 2 or Halo 1.5 as I like to know it. the GameCube sucked, every game is either Mario this, DonkeyKong that, or the Pokemon crap. Good riddance. The Nintendo Revolution is nothing more than another kid's console.

Your "drop out of the race Nintendo" comment was hilarious..

Personally I think you're an idiot for saying that. If it weren't for Nintendo there'd be no video games period.

BTW that's your taste, I always prefer to buy Nintendo consoles first. Nintendo's more about gameplay, the PS2 is doing more gun/gta kinda action in most of the games....it works, but that might be your preferance.

Personally I think your comments on this are stupid.

Mixability

08-11-2005, 01:59 PM

Your "drop out of the race Nintendo" comment was hilarious..

Personally I think you're an idiot for saying that. If it weren't for Nintendo there'd be no video games period.

BTW that's your taste, I always prefer to buy Nintendo consoles first. Nintendo's more about gameplay, the PS2 is doing more gun/gta kinda action in most of the games....it works, but that might be your preferance.

Personally I think your comments on this are stupid.

I'm glad I can make you laugh, but if you're a grown man playing Nintendo Gamecube games........ now thats funny! Have fun with your Mario Party, Donkey Konga and Pokemon. I'll stick to my Halo and Grand Theft Auto. I know that Nintendo had everything to do with ending the Atari Video game depression, I never deny that, but Sega was smart to end their own console building days, Nintendo should follow their lead.

fraga

08-11-2005, 02:09 PM

Meh...I'll stick with Sony...Bill Gates doesn't need to get any richer...

Sense

08-11-2005, 02:18 PM

I'm glad I can make you laugh, but if you're a grown man playing Nintendo Gamecube games........ now thats funny! Have fun with your Mario Party, Donkey Konga and Pokemon. I'll stick to my Halo and Grand Theft Auto. I know that Nintendo had everything to do with ending the Atari Video game depression, I never deny that, but Sega was smart to end their own console building days, Nintendo should follow their lead.

I'm flattered by your grown man comment, I'm sure Kori might be smiling or laughing about that one too.

It's fucking obvious video games are mostly intended for kids, and nintendo has beaten everyone else in that department, that doesn't mean however that, that's all they do.

Nintendo will never "retire".

Sega was not smart by doing it.. they were smart by merging with Nintendo.

You know shit.

Mixability

08-11-2005, 02:18 PM

Meh...I'll stick with Sony...Bill Gates doesn't need to get any richer...

true, but Billy boy sure does know his technology, maybe I'll pick up a PS3 also if they have more exclusive games... i was really close to getting a PS2 just for the Grand Theft Auto series, but then Xbox got it.. thank God

Mixability

08-11-2005, 02:24 PM

I'm flattered by your grown man comment, I'm sure Kori might be smiling or laughing about that one too.

It's fucking obvious video games are mostly intended for kids, and nintendo has beaten everyone else in that department, that doesn't mean however that, that's all they do.

Nintendo will never "retire".

Sega was not smart by doing it.. they were smart by merging with Nintendo.

You know shit.

I assumed you were a grown man because of your previous and more mature posts, but now I know I'm wrong. I know that video games were once a childs toy, but you do know that the target market for video game companies is the 18-25 demographic. you have to be kidding me by saying that the gamecube is better than the PS2 and Xbox.

Sega wasn't smart about "retiring"? They were losing money on every Dreamcast they were selling. And now they put out the NBA2k and NFL2k series on every platform in addition to the Sonic series? Yeah thats not smart. :shootme

Sense

08-11-2005, 02:27 PM

I assumed you were a grown man because of your previous and more mature posts, but now I know I'm wrong. I know that video games were once a childs toy, but you do know that the target market for video game companies is the 18-25 demographic. you have to be kidding me by saying that the gamecube is better than the PS2 and Xbox.

Sega wasn't smart about "retiring"? They were losing money on every Dreamcast they were selling. And now they put out the NBA2k and NFL2k series on every platform in addition to the Sonic series? Yeah thats not smart. :shootme

You assume my posts aren't mature because I'm disagreeing with you..

that's pretty mature. :lol

The gamecube was always better than the Xbox...the PS2 beat it's sales because of the GTA series, and the first person shooters.

I recall alot of people buying the dreamcast and waiting for games on it. People were buying the console. When the owner and founder of Sega died, he gave his company away to a family member, and he merged it for better sales.

The founder would've done alot of good things for Sega, but he isn't he anymore...the legacy can't do the same.

Mixability

08-11-2005, 02:32 PM

You assume my posts aren't mature because I'm disagreeing with you..

that's pretty mature. :lol

The gamecube was always better than the Xbox...the PS2 beat it's sales because of the GTA series, and the first person shooters.

I recall alot of people buying the dreamcast and waiting for games on it. People were buying the console. When the owner and founder of Sega died, he gave his company away to a family member, and he merged it for better sales.

The founder would've done alot of good things for Sega, but he isn't he anymore...the legacy can't do the same.

again you misunderstand...
it didn't matter that you disagree or agree. what was immature is that you made your point in a very good way and then had to add in "your comments are stupid".

I know quite a few people bought the dreamcast, i was one of them, i think i bought it for $200 at release date and a couple of years later it was already at $49.99. When Sega stopped making them because they were losing more than $50 on each one, I was glad, so then they could concentrate on making games that were worthwhile.

Sense

08-11-2005, 02:36 PM

again you misunderstand...
it didn't matter that you disagree or agree. what was immature is that you made your point in a very good way and then had to add in "your comments are stupid".

I can't help myself if it's true.

I know quite a few people bought the dreamcast, i was one of them, i think i bought it for $200 at release date and a couple of years later it was already at $49.99. When Sega stopped making them because they were losing more than $50 on each one, I was glad, so then they could concentrate on making games that were worthwhile.

???

Mixability

08-11-2005, 02:42 PM

I can't help myself if it's true.

attacking someone because you disagree is what made you look immature, get it? got it? good? finally.

???

never took a math class, huh?

it cost sega $100 to make a dreamcast.... got it so far?
it cost us $50 to buy one.... still with me?
that means they were losing $50 everytime a dreamcast was sold..... wow, its crazy huh?

i mean if it cost you $10 in supplies to bake a cake, would you sell it for $5?

i hope to God you understand, if not.......oh well

CharlieMac

08-11-2005, 02:44 PM

jcrod

08-11-2005, 02:49 PM

I'm waiting till the PS3 comes out, I'm more than postive they'll raise the bar to meet the 360 capabilities. Since they've always had more and better games, i'll wait.

Mixability

08-11-2005, 03:02 PM

I'm waiting till the PS3 comes out, I'm more than postive they'll raise the bar to meet the 360 capabilities. Since they've always had more and better games, i'll wait.

thats the good thing about the console wars, they compete by making the newer ones better, in the end, the gamer wins. except nintendo doesn't understand this concept, their console is coming out later, but won't compare to xbox 360 or ps3, power wise, from what i heard. since ps3 will be backwards compatible, they'll always have more games than the xbox or xbox 360, which is a very good thing.

the ps3 coming out later is an advantage anyway, it gives you more time to save for it, since the rumor is it'll be in the $500-$600 dollar range, which i hope is just a rumor.

greywheel

08-11-2005, 03:46 PM

Mixability

08-11-2005, 03:56 PM

Danyo:
I am a grown man that plays video games and owns a Gamecube. I play games to have fun. Just because you have fun with games like GTA or Halo, not everyone does.
Nintendo being kiddy is just a bad stereotype. One that caused them to make Mario Sunshine too hard (least for me). But with games like Metroid, Resident Evil and Eternal Darkness (a hidden gem) they have quite a few titles that appeal to older gamers.

Nintendo has a consistently profitable business model.
They will not be leaving the console business unless the Revolution is a commercial flop. We don't know enough about it to gauge that possibility right now.

good for you, i just prefer the non-nintendo library of games. of course nintendo is too kiddy. too much pokemon and donkey for my tastes, but if you like those kind of games, cool. i would choke on my soda the day nintendo releases a GTA type of game! i enjoy the old-school scroller from time to time also and i enjoy the new zeldas too.

never heard of Eternal Darkness, i might have to check that out, is it enough of a reason to buy a gamecube though? they must be pretty cheap now with all the newer consoles coming out soon. the reason i like the xbox and ps2 is that i just enjoy realism(ghost recon, splinter cell, stuff like that) Collecting coins and saving the princess again and again just gets a little old for me, but i can't say they're not fun.

I'm just stating my opinion because of that other guy who was adamant about the gamecube being better than both the xbox and the ps2 and thats just ridiculous, you have to agree with that, right? i'm not wanting nintendo to fail, because everyone knows that competition makes it better for the consumer.

greywheel

08-11-2005, 05:05 PM

I'm just stating my opinion because of that other guy who was adamant about the gamecube being better than both the xbox and the ps2 and thats just ridiculous, you have to agree with that, right? i'm not wanting nintendo to fail, because everyone knows that competition makes it better for the consumer.

A system is only as good as its games. And we obviously do not agree on what a good game is.
If you are talking power and capabilities, the Gamecube is on par with the Xbox. Both are more powerful than the PS2. It is just hard to see it because multi-console games start as PS2 games and then get ported. PS2 just has a larger customer base.

As far as Eternal Darkness, since you should be able to get a used Gamecube for $50 and a used copy of this for $15, yeah I would say it is pretty much worth it. I paid $50 bucks just for the game and found it worth the money.

Mixability

08-11-2005, 05:14 PM

A system is only as good as its games. And we obviously do not agree on what a good game is.
If you are talking power and capabilities, the Gamecube is on par with the Xbox. Both are more powerful than the PS2. It is just hard to see it because multi-console games start as PS2 games and then get ported. PS2 just has a larger customer base.

As far as Eternal Darkness, since you should be able to get a used Gamecube for $50 and a used copy of this for $15, yeah I would say it is pretty much worth it. I paid $50 bucks just for the game and found it worth the money.

no, i agree, i'd rather have a great game with so-so graphics, than a so-so game with great graphics. if you're right about the gamecube being on par with the xbox powerwise, then do they not use it to its full potential? cause i go to gamestop often to check out all the systems and nothing on the gamecube really caught my eye graphically.

BadlyDrawnBoy

08-11-2005, 05:38 PM

It's fucking obvious video games are mostly intended for kids

1995 called, they wanted to say thanks for remembering them.

The largest gaming market is the 18-34 year old market aka Adults.

More adults now play video games than children.

Nintendo with it's games is intended to reach the children market and the "I still love Nintendo with all my heart" adult market.
While XBox and PS have targeted the more adult and mature audience looking for games that fit their liking.

Games and game consoles are no longer targeted for young children, those days are long gone.

Aggie Hoopsfan

08-11-2005, 06:37 PM

they've always had more and better games

Sorry, but the best I can tell all Sony had going for it with the PS2 was the GTA series, and the Final Fantasy type shit.

All I care about are FPShooter games, and sports. On which XBox matches up fine with, even better than IMO thanks to the Halo series.

I've also heard that the PS2 will be on the order of $150-200 more than the 360. For basically the same performance, fuck that.

greywheel

08-11-2005, 07:29 PM

no, i agree, i'd rather have a great game with so-so graphics, than a so-so game with great graphics. if you're right about the gamecube being on par with the xbox powerwise, then do they not use it to its full potential? cause i go to gamestop often to check out all the systems and nothing on the gamecube really caught my eye graphically.

Graphics wise, No I do not think the Gamecube reached its full potential. The third party titles made specifically for the Gamecube look great. Resident Evil 4 comes to mind. Unfortunately, Nintendo does not prioritize visuals with their own releases. I am expecting the new Zelda released later this year to be different though.

greywheel

08-11-2005, 08:06 PM

Sorry, but the best I can tell all Sony had going for it with the PS2 was the GTA series, and the Final Fantasy type shit.

All I care about are FPShooter games, and sports. On which XBox matches up fine with, even better than IMO thanks to the Halo series.

I've also heard that the PS2 will be on the order of $150-200 more than the 360. For basically the same performance, fuck that.

The PS2 had a lot more games worth buying then the XBOX. Take Halo away and Microsoft would have shut that division down a year after launch.
The XBOX does have the better online game network.

Of course, I own neither. So this is from what I've read and heard.

Likewise, noone owns a PS2,360 or Revolution yet. Not much has been revealed about the Revolution, so I cannot comment much on it. What worries me about the fight between Microsoft and Sony is the different mediums being proposed. The 360 is supposed to be HD-DVD and the PS3 is supposed to be Blu-ray. If one of these becomes the standard some people are going to end up with a very expensive game machine that won't be the Home Entertainment Console that it was sold as.

SpursFanDan

08-11-2005, 08:14 PM

I'm a Playstation fan boy.. so I'll never buy anything shitbox. Besides PS3 is gonna kick the shit out of the little 180

Horry For 3!

08-11-2005, 08:54 PM

Cool.

Aggie Hoopsfan

08-11-2005, 09:37 PM

PS3 is gonna kick the shit out of the little 180

In what way? Please tell me you don't buy the 'Cell' hype. A reputable tech industry group has already done enough research to come to the conclusion their performance will be a wash.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2453

T Park

08-11-2005, 09:44 PM

Ill buy XBOX cause I like companies that work hard and are successfull.

I dont hate people cause they are rich, unlike some of the jealous morons in this thread.

Mixability

08-11-2005, 09:51 PM

I'm a Playstation fan boy.. so I'll never buy anything shitbox. Besides PS3 is gonna kick the shit out of the little 180

not very smart to buy a console because of the name, buy it for the games. and just because the PS3 will be more powerful, doesn't mean it'll be better. for example, i was still playing and enjoying my nes, when the "super powerful" jaguar came out, look how the "more power" was succesful in that regard!

i assumed it was basically a rule for the console makers to make theirs more powerful if it comes out later, but nintendo is taking a big risk by not putting more power in their "revolution"

Mixability

08-11-2005, 10:13 PM

Ill buy XBOX cause I like companies that work hard and are successfull.

I dont hate people cause they are rich, unlike some of the jealous morons in this thread.

i agree, thats what i don't get with people

examples:
i don't like playstation, because it's from japan, i'm pro-America
i don't want an xbox, because i don't want to fatten Bill Gates pockets anymore

:rolleyes

ShoogarBear

08-11-2005, 10:38 PM

Video games kill people.

E20

08-11-2005, 11:40 PM

I'll go with PS, why? Well, with the release of the PSX it was the most sold console EVER and even had the game that sold the most games EVER. With the release of the PS2, it beat the X-BOX and the Gamecube both in Video game/console sales. Sure it was the weaker of the two hardware wise, but it gave a wide genre of games that everybody could play, so you could try out everything, unlike the Box with FPS/Sports mostly and the GC with games suitable for kids under 12. So with Sony's history of a successful line of consoles, I'll go with Sony because of there assurance.

Aggie Hoopsfan

08-12-2005, 12:02 AM

With the release of the PS2, it beat the X-BOX and the Gamecube both in Video game/console sales.

It also helped the PS2 out that they launched before the Xbox and that they had the GTA line, which is basically the most successful gaming franchise in the history of gaming consoles.

MS has worked its way into the GTA picture, which kills a lot of that. I also think the 360 will do better due to its Internet capabilities as well as the fact its launching early.

And finally, one of the most overlooked aspects of all this is the format wars.

MS has basically a monopoly on computing, and has a partnership with Toshiba to roll out HD-DVD. With the convergence of the home entertainment center, computing, and gaming, the format HD-DVD vs. Blue Ray) that can do a better job in the "home entertainment network" will win.

And like I said, with MS with a near monopoly on computing, I'm betting on the 360/HD-DVD/Toshiba.

TheTruth

08-12-2005, 12:08 AM

Meh...I'll stick with Sony...Bill Gates doesn't need to get any richer...
I'm sure the owner of Sony is hurting for money.

Aggie Hoopsfan

08-12-2005, 12:13 AM

what is the advantage of getting an xbox 360 or ps3 instead of upgrading a desktop computer and buying games for that?

Simple math...

Xbox 360, rumored retail: $299
PS3: rumored retail, $499

New video card: $500
New Sound card: $200
1 GB RAM: $100
New processor: $300
New mobo: $199

(now add up those numbers for a computer, and then factor in needing a new system every two years for computing games).

Anyone who wanted to play Doom3 when it came out for PC had to go out and get at least a $300 video card.

Doesn't make much sense to me.

E20

08-12-2005, 02:05 AM

It also helped the PS2 out that they launched before the Xbox and that they had the GTA line, which is basically the most successful gaming franchise in the history of gaming consoles.

MS has worked its way into the GTA picture, which kills a lot of that. I also think the 360 will do better due to its Internet capabilities as well as the fact its launching early.

And finally, one of the most overlooked aspects of all this is the format wars.

MS has basically a monopoly on computing, and has a partnership with Toshiba to roll out HD-DVD. With the convergence of the home entertainment center, computing, and gaming, the format HD-DVD vs. Blue Ray) that can do a better job in the "home entertainment network" will win.

And like I said, with MS with a near monopoly on computing, I'm betting on the 360/HD-DVD/Toshiba.

It's all about taste. Depending on what you want PS = RPG/Action-Adventure/Fighting/Sports slow loading times, least amount of HD etc.

XBOX = Sports/FPS/Stealth/Racing/Somewhat Fighting&RPG ( I've played on the BOX)

but with better load times. XBOX beats PS2 in online play with most of the online games being sports,racing and FPS X-BOX's system is more modeled to play and run games with higher polygon counts faster than the PS2. If you're more high end on Sport and FPS games then X-BOX is the best. If you're into other genres then PS2 or if you're rich you can own all of them and don't have to bitch. And what is a 'mobo'?

fraga

08-12-2005, 07:49 AM

batman2883

08-12-2005, 07:51 AM

My girlfriend likes to play video games with me, she got all exicted the other day cause she kicked my ass in the battle mode on Star Wars Episode III. What is the world coming to alright, when girls are getting better at video games other than Ms. Pac man

fraga

08-12-2005, 07:55 AM

[Mrs. Boucher] Bill Gates is the devil...[/Mrs. Boucher]

Mixability

08-12-2005, 09:03 AM

Sheesh...who'd thought grown men would get all touchy about Video games....I mean damn...get your fat asses out of the house and do something...exercise...go to the park...go for a walk with your girlfriend....it's just a freakin video game console...you people are acting like you own a piece of the damn company...quite sad in some ways...what's this FAT ass country coming to...and personally...I couldn't give shit about what you buy and for what reason...

If you don't want to see peoples opinions....then stop reading. You are on a forum aren't you? Sheesh. Like we own the damn company? :rolleyes Nah, but don't us all pretend that we own the Spurs sometimes when we come up with fantasy trades? It goes both ways, doesn't it?

greywheel

08-12-2005, 09:31 AM

And what is a 'mobo'?

mobo = mother board

jcrod

08-12-2005, 12:38 PM

Sorry, but the best I can tell all Sony had going for it with the PS2 was the GTA series, and the Final Fantasy type shit.

All I care about are FPShooter games, and sports. On which XBox matches up fine with, even better than IMO thanks to the Halo series.

I've also heard that the PS2 will be on the order of $150-200 more than the 360. For basically the same performance, fuck that.

I'm not much for shooter games so the X was never really appealing because of Halo. But PS does have a vast selection of games compared to XBOX. Now that might change this yr, but thats why I'll wait and see.

If the PS3 is 100+ more, than yeah I'll just go with the XBOX, but I doubt they'll be higher. That would be stupid on their part. I've read Sony will be just as good or better than the Xbox, so it just a matter of opinion.

The HD/DVD doesn't sway me much because I'll always use my DVD player for DVD's.

Mixability

08-12-2005, 01:34 PM

I'm not much for shooter games so the X was never really appealing because of Halo. But PS does have a vast selection of games compared to XBOX. Now that might change this yr, but thats why I'll wait and see.

If the PS3 is 100+ more, than yeah I'll just go with the XBOX, but I doubt they'll be higher. That would be stupid on their part. I've read Sony will be just as good or better than the Xbox, so it just a matter of opinion.

The HD/DVD doesn't sway me much because I'll always use my DVD player for DVD's.

i hope that rumor that the PS3 being anywhere from $100-$200 higher doesn't turn out to be true, but you know there will be fanboys who will still buy it. i plan on just getting both, problem solved.

Trainwreck2100

08-12-2005, 01:37 PM

There's one thing I don't understand about the XB360, do you need an HDTV to play it.

Mixability

08-12-2005, 01:39 PM

There's one thing I don't understand about the XB360, do you need an HDTV to play it.

no way, it'll work on any TV

Trainwreck2100

08-12-2005, 01:51 PM

Mixability

08-12-2005, 03:29 PM

Did anyone here see the Microsoft press conference before E3 it was the biggest load of crap in the world. The guy was talking about the HG generation and how they expect 1 billion customers. They even had plants in the audience, you could tell because they cheered for Tomb Raider.

oh yeah, i saw that, i don't know about HD or Blu-Ray yet, just have to wait and see which format wins and which one becomes the next "Beta". Even if they do get 1 billion customers and half that hooked up to Xbox Live, 95% of them will still act like idiots over Xbox Live, just like they currently do. :pctoss

Trainwreck2100

08-12-2005, 03:37 PM

Even if they do get 1 billion customers and half that hooked up to Xbox Live, 95% of them will still act like idiots over Xbox Live, just like they currently do. :pctoss

Yeah they are assholes on XBL especially the Kids age 8-15.

TheDude

08-12-2005, 04:17 PM

no really

what is the advantage of getting an xbox 360 or ps3 instead of upgrading a desktop computer and buying games for that?

Portability

Mixability

08-12-2005, 04:23 PM

Yeah they are assholes on XBL especially the Kids age 8-15.

yeah but even the 18-25 group can be idiotic! and supposed the xbox 360 will have video capabilities, so imagine all the "cock shots" that will be up as profile pics!(don't get any ideas GiG!) :lol

ididnotnothat

08-12-2005, 07:33 PM

I don't even know what Halo I is.

ididnotnothat

08-12-2005, 08:08 PM

are u serious?

Yes. I mean I heard the rave about Halo II awhile back but even then I didn't pay much attention.
Why is it so popular amongs the college crowd?
Is it a "strategy" game?

Trainwreck2100

08-12-2005, 08:22 PM

Yes. I mean I heard the rave about Halo II awhile back but even then I didn't pay much attention.
Why is it so popular amongs the college crowd?
Is it a "strategy" game?

It's strength is the multiplayer where you can basically customize everything.

Mixability

08-17-2005, 10:30 AM

prices for Xbox 360:

299.99 - console with wired controller
399.99 - console with wireless controller, 20GB harddrive, headset and remote control

greywheel

08-17-2005, 11:02 AM

prices for Xbox 360:

299.99 - console with wired controller
399.99 - console with wireless controller, 20GB harddrive, headset and remote control

Also heard rumor that it might initially ship with a plain DVD, not HD-DVD.

Mixability

08-17-2005, 11:09 AM

Also heard rumor that it might initially ship with a plain DVD, not HD-DVD.

didn't hear that, but as long as the games rock... :elephant

Mixability

08-17-2005, 11:16 AM

now i need to compile my list of launch titles to pick up with my 360 on release day...

Trainwreck2100

08-17-2005, 12:01 PM

prices for Xbox 360:

299.99 - console with wired controller
399.99 - console with wireless controller, 20GB harddrive, headset and remote control
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/642/642633p1.html
Buy the $400 package

A Memory card $39.99 U.S./?34.99/£22.99) is required for saving games, a headset ($19.99 U.S./?19.99/£14.99) is necessary for Xbox Live play, a second controller sells for $39.99 (?34.99/£24.99), and a remote goes for $29.99 (?29.99/£19.99), totaling $130, the premium price appears the better deal. The above tally doesn't include a MS HD, which costs an additional $99 (totaling $229).

Mixability

08-17-2005, 12:32 PM

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/642/642633p1.html
Buy the $400 package

A Memory card $39.99 U.S./?34.99/£22.99) is required for saving games, a headset ($19.99 U.S./?19.99/£14.99) is necessary for Xbox Live play, a second controller sells for $39.99 (?34.99/£24.99), and a remote goes for $29.99 (?29.99/£19.99), totaling $130, the premium price appears the better deal. The above tally doesn't include a MS HD, which costs an additional $99 (totaling $229).

I was just reading that too, I don't know who wouldn't buy the better one, since you're bound to buy all those peripherals eventually anyway.

Trainwreck2100

08-17-2005, 05:14 PM

I was just reading that too, I don't know who wouldn't buy the better one, since you're bound to buy all those peripherals eventually anyway.

Parents who go to buy a christmas present and don't know what the hell they are buying. They buy this, then spend all the extra money to catch up.

Mixability

08-17-2005, 05:32 PM

Parents who go to buy a christmas present and don't know what the hell they are buying. They buy this, then spend all the extra money to catch up.

there's going to be quite a few ruined Christmas'.

I can hear the brats now: I WANTED THE ELITE VERSION OF XBOX 360!!!!! I HATE YOU MOM AND DAD!!!! YOU'RE SOOOO STUPID!!!!!
:rolleyes

SpursFanDan

08-17-2005, 05:36 PM

This has probably been said but, the reason I won't be getting the 360 is because it won't have backwards compatability. To me, thats just unacceptable.

Mixability

08-17-2005, 05:38 PM

This has probably been said but, the reason I won't be getting the 360 is because it won't have backwards compatability. To me, thats just unacceptable.

if you get the one with the hard drive, then it will be

Trainwreck2100

08-17-2005, 05:39 PM

if you get the one with the hard drive, then it will be

Not for all the games, just the"hit" ones.

Mixability

08-17-2005, 05:42 PM

Not for all the games, just the"hit" ones.

i heard that the library will be expanded as time goes by, i'm sure that eventually all the games will be playable. if the drive plays one xbox game, then how or why would it single out another "non-hit" game.

not disagreeing with you, just real curious, cause i have quite a few "non-hit" games and don't want to have to pull out the old xbox to play a little outlaw volleyball or similar.

Mixability

08-17-2005, 05:48 PM

This has probably been said but, the reason I won't be getting the 360 is because it won't have backwards compatability. To me, thats just unacceptable.

keep your old xbox, its the best way, i've stopped trading in consoles a long time ago, because you get ripped off anyway

SpursFanDan

08-17-2005, 05:50 PM

OH, I'll never trade in my old consoles, I still have the original Nintendo. I don't play it, I mostly play the dreamcast because I have a crap load of... *cough*imported games.

Mixability

08-17-2005, 05:53 PM

OH, I'll never trade in my old consoles, I still have the original Nintendo. I don't play it, I mostly play the dreamcast because I have a crap load of... *cough*imported games.

the dreamcast rocked, good thing it failed though, if not we wouldn't have the xbox

Trainwreck2100

08-17-2005, 06:17 PM

i heard that the library will be expanded as time goes by, i'm sure that eventually all the games will be playable. if the drive plays one xbox game, then how or why would it single out another "non-hit" game.

not disagreeing with you, just real curious, cause i have quite a few "non-hit" games and don't want to have to pull out the old xbox to play a little outlaw volleyball or similar.

It's not really backwards compatability, it's emulation. Basically it will be Emulated instead of hardware base.

Youl have to probably dl patches to add more "games" to the list... If im not mistaken its not like the PS2 for example that was simply hardware based. Word is M$ is paying royalties to Nividia for emulation.

CharlieMac

08-17-2005, 06:18 PM

As sad as it sounds when I say it out loud, that game package for 400 dollars is actually a good deal.

Trainwreck2100

08-17-2005, 06:37 PM

As sad as it sounds when I say it out loud, that game package for 400 dollars is actually a good deal.

Not as sad as "Alright, gas for $2.42"

Mixability

08-17-2005, 09:32 PM

As sad as it sounds when I say it out loud, that game package for 400 dollars is actually a good deal.

I think it's a very good deal. i've heard quite a few complaints saying thats its too expensive.

Kinda funny that when the rumors were that the PS3 was going to be $400, that was ok, but now since the 360 is $400, its outrageous. Fanboys.... :rolleyes

At the same price,
Xbox 360 w/ Hard drive > PS3 w/o Hard drive

Then again, according to Sony, the PS3 is supposed to be more expensive than the 360... :drunk

SpursFanDan

08-19-2005, 06:10 PM

So, the next gen consoles are gonna cost an assload of money, the games better be worth it. I mean, really spectacular graphics, gameplay, presentation, etc. This goes for the ps3 and the revolution. I expect madden to look like a live broadcast damnit.

T Park

08-19-2005, 07:42 PM

Alright, gas for $2.42

Out here in California, its
"Hey look, its 2.75, theyre practically giving it away"

So, the next gen consoles are gonna cost an assload of money, the games better be worth it. I mean, really spectacular graphics, gameplay, presentation, etc. This goes for the ps3 and the revolution. I expect madden to look like a live broadcast damnit

Ya know what I like, is if the Sports games, ARE like a real broadcast.
And if the sounds in the stadium are like what they would be if you went to a game.