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apalisoc_9
05-24-2014, 12:13 AM
For more than two years?

was pretty close to the finals when he had to lead the bulls..

I honestly think he would have won at least 1 ring if he would have had more than 10 years as a number 1 option.

Opinions?

King Emmanuel
05-24-2014, 12:16 AM
would have been possible if jordan was convicted of murdering his father

mudyez
05-24-2014, 01:36 AM
He came close in 94 but looking at 95 I dont see him beating Shaq's Magic (obviously) and from there it would have dependet on Bulls management. With this exact team, I don't see him winning...They may not get/want Rodman but if any nice second options where available (not in the mood to search for a 96 FA list), I could see Pippen as the Finals MVP. He was kind of a LeBron light...in an era without LeBron.

Franklin
05-24-2014, 02:14 AM
Agree Pippen would've won at least one ring even without Jordan. Meanwhile, the Great Satan's finals record without wade/bosh stands as... 0-4

scanry
05-24-2014, 03:28 AM
He could've rang in 1996 tbh.

lefty
05-24-2014, 03:35 AM
No.

hater
05-24-2014, 03:41 AM
:lmao no chance in hell unless scottie teamed up with Olajuwon, the Knicks or Reggie Miller. You know form a superteam like Lebron did :lol

Infinite_limit
05-24-2014, 03:43 AM
Let's assume MJ doesn't return in 1995. It would have been difficult to defeat the Shaq-Magic. By 1998+ Pippen was a Point-Forward so you'd need a high scoring PG along with Jordan's replacement.

I think Shaq ends up staying in Orlando if not for the 1996 ECF beat down. Without Jordan the Bulls don't defeat the 1998 Pacers. And 1997 Jazz were a solid team. So ultimately I'm going with No.

Koolaid_Man
05-24-2014, 10:19 AM
Jordan without Pippen (5 seasons):

.430 win %
0 Titles
0 MVPs
0 Finals MVP
0 Finals appearances
0 Playoff series wins
1-9 playoff record
0 NBA All Defense Team
0 NBA Defensive Player of the year



Kobe without Shaq (6 seasons)

.611 win %
3 Finals appearances
2 Championships
1 MVP (Reg season)
2 MVP (Finals)
5 NBA All Defense 1st Team
81 points in 1 game
62 points in 3 quarters (outscored Mavs all by himself)
4 straight 50+ pt games

30 straight 40+ games averaged 40 for a month



Kobe 3 Seasons without Shaq and Gasol:


.492 win %
0 Titles
1 Regular Season MVP
0 Finals MVP
0 Finals appearances
0 Playoff series wins
4-8 playoff record
3 NBA All Defense Team
0 NBA Defensive Player of the year

Clipper Nation
05-24-2014, 10:49 AM
Pippen carried Dad KillerPERIOD

KobeOwnsDuncan
05-24-2014, 10:56 AM
Jordan didn't need a superteam.

tlongII
05-24-2014, 11:23 AM
Should have won it in 2000. Got screwed by the league.

Leetonidas
05-24-2014, 11:34 AM
He would've never been half as good without Jordan busting his ass everyday in practice imo

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
05-24-2014, 11:59 AM
Yes.. but Jordan made Pippen.. so really this is irrelevant.

mercos
05-24-2014, 12:16 PM
Scottie Pippen was good enough to win the title as the number one option. He would require a good team built around him, just like any other superstar. There were no juggernauts in the 1990s that a good Pippen led team couldn't overcome.

Killakobe81
05-24-2014, 12:27 PM
No. MJ the GOAT needed Pip to rang, a HOF coach and elite role players.What would Pip need?

Love Pip great player but if LeBron's mental toughness and clutch play was questioned before he rang ...Pip's was twice as shaky.

baseline bum
05-24-2014, 03:35 PM
LOL, not a chance, even if the Bulls had never traded away Oakley.

LkrFan
05-24-2014, 04:13 PM
Should have won it in 2000. Got screwed by the league.
:rollin :lmao :rollin