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benstanfield
05-25-2014, 09:49 PM
I talked a lot of shit about Ibakas injury pregame so I figured I should make this thread...

Ibaka's mere presence:

a) Exposed Parker's baby dick

b) Negated any points in the paint that the Spurs had counted on

c) Allowed Perk/Adams to play TD straight up

d) Pussified our entire lineup on the defensive glass

e) Gave OKC's perimeter defenders leeway to play more aggressively in passing lanes

f) Gave KD/WB the lift on offense that allowed them to share the load and not score half of OKC's points

g) Completely changed Pop's gameplay as evinced in the last timeout sound bite

KD/WB can make all the highlight plays they want, you will never convince me that Ibaka isn't their MVP. The entire balance of this series was changed tonight, You can say "the spurs just played badly" all you want, the bottom line is that if Ibaka gets healthier as the series goes on this thing is probably going to OKC in 6 or 7 games.

myhc
05-25-2014, 09:52 PM
Agreed. This is a brand new series because of Ibaka. Every game is going to be a struggle to win. I think the only thing going for us now is that we have game 7 at home...if we make it that far.

Malik Hairston
05-25-2014, 09:53 PM
The Spurs were out scored 31-24 with Ibaka on the bench, too:lol..

And ya, Ibaka is more valuable than Westbrook, I've been saying it all year, but I'd gladly allow him to play if it meant Durant would sit out, that's just foolish:lol..

benstanfield
05-25-2014, 09:56 PM
The Spurs were out scored 31-24 with Ibaka on the bench, too:lol..

And ya, Ibaka is more valuable than Westbrook, I've been saying it all year, but I'd gladly allow him to play if it meant Durant would sit out, that's just foolish:lol..

Thunder with just Westbrook and Ibaka is probably a low seeded playoff team.

Thunder with just KD and Ibaka is probably a mid seeded playoff team.

Thunder with just KD and Westbrook is a lottery team, easy.

Stabula
05-25-2014, 09:58 PM
The Spurs were out scored 31-24 with Ibaka on the bench, too:lol..

And ya, Ibaka is more valuable than Westbrook, I've been saying it all year, but I'd gladly allow him to play if it meant Durant would sit out, that's just foolish:lol..

Don't under estimate the value of defense or a dominant big in the paint.

slick'81
05-25-2014, 09:59 PM
LOl @ ibaka not making a difference

Malik Hairston
05-25-2014, 10:01 PM
Don't under estimate the value of defense or a dominant big in the paint.

I'm not, I'm one of Ibaka's biggest supporters in the NBA Forum, but there's no argument to him being more valuable than Kevin fucking Durant:lol..

Capt Bringdown
05-25-2014, 10:02 PM
The entire balance of this series was changed tonight, You can say "the spurs just played badly" all you want, the bottom line is that if Ibaka gets healthier as the series goes on this thing is probably going to OKC in 6 or 7 games.

Agreed. Spurs are grasping at straws against the OKC Ibakas. 3 ball ain't gonna cut it.

benstanfield
05-25-2014, 10:04 PM
I'm not, I'm one of Ibaka's biggest supporters in the NBA Forum, but there's no argument to him being more valuable than Kevin fucking Durant:lol..

0-2

1-0

The Thunder were an easily beatable team before he came back. This was an easy sweep. You can't convince me that if KD had been injured an IBaka healthy, games 1 and 2 would've been easier.

silverblk mystix
05-25-2014, 10:07 PM
That 19-0 free throw disparity in the 3rd quarter didn't hurt Reflahoma's chances to win either...

LOL NBA still fixed...

Cue the faggot who will come in and say;

"if you think the NBA is rigged - why do you even watch?"

myhc
05-25-2014, 10:08 PM
0-2

1-0

The Thunder were an easily beatable team before he came back. This was an easy sweep. You can't convince me that if KD had been injured an IBaka healthy, games 1 and 2 would've been easier.

On the offensive side of the ball, it's Durant. On the defensive side, it's Ibaka. I don't see how you can definitively state either is the lone MVP of the team because they're both dependent on one another to have the success they're having. Without Ibaka, you saw what we did to them in games 1/2. If Durant was out, they would stop us more on the defensive end but they still wouldn't beat us because they wouldn't be able to generate enough offense.

ElNono
05-25-2014, 10:10 PM
Spurs just shoot poorly... we had the open looks and missed them... one of those nights, tbh

benstanfield
05-25-2014, 10:11 PM
That 19-0 free throw disparity in the 3rd quarter didn't hurt Reflahoma's chances to win either...

LOL NBA still fixed...

Cue the faggot who will come in and say;

"if you think the NBA is rigged - why do you even watch?"

I'll always be the first to jump on the NBA = rigged bandwagon, but Ibaka's presence alone turned the Spurs from hunter to hunted. We were weak, soft, useless pussies and it has everything to do with the dick shrinkage of TP in this game. You can't expect an even amount of FTA when your offense is basically missed threes and blocked euro lay ups. There were maybe three or four missed calls in the third, but IBaka is more to blame for the FTA disparity than the refs.

Ricky Davis
05-25-2014, 10:11 PM
retarded GNSF threads like these are what make this site entertaining when the Spurs lose imho

benstanfield
05-25-2014, 10:16 PM
On the offensive side of the ball, it's Durant. On the defensive side, it's Ibaka. I don't see how you can definitively state either is the lone MVP of the team because they're both dependent on one another to have the success they're having. Without Ibaka, you saw what we did to them in games 1/2. If Durant was out, they would stop us more on the defensive end but they still wouldn't beat us because they wouldn't be able to generate enough offense.

Durant 8-19 from the floor, 4 TOs in a victory. You don't need a Durant when you can consistently hold teams under 100 pts. Even if Durant averages 35 you need an Ibaka.

benstanfield
05-25-2014, 10:17 PM
retarded GNSF threads like these are what make this site entertaining when the Spurs lose imho
:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry

jag
05-25-2014, 10:18 PM
retarded GNSF threads like these are what make this site entertaining when the Spurs lose imho

My Goodness! Ricky Davis taking into the paint, crossing over, spinning around his defender, elevating and dropping in the beautiful teardrop. Mama, there goes that man! Ricky 1. GNSF 0.

benstanfield
05-25-2014, 10:20 PM
Spurs just shoot poorly... we had the open looks and missed them... one of those nights, tbh

I have a feeling that if Ibaka stays healthy these comments and ref complaint will become quite common in The next week.

Capt Bringdown
05-25-2014, 10:29 PM
Ibaka is the deal breaker for the Spurs finals hopes. "Just one of the nights" is patent BS, considering our recent record against OKC w/Ibaka in the playoffs.

slick'81
05-25-2014, 10:31 PM
Ibaka is the deal breaker for the Spurs finals hopes. "Just one of the nights" is patent BS, considering our recent record against OKC w/Ibaka in the playoffs.

This if he stys on the floor no way this series doesn't go 7

benstanfield
05-25-2014, 10:34 PM
Ibaka is the deal breaker for the Spurs finals hopes. "Just one of the nights" is patent BS, considering our recent record against OKC w/Ibaka in the playoffs.

Seriously. That attitude reminds me of 2012 more than anything else.

Game 3-6: :cry Just one of those nights, ;( refs

Capt Bringdown
05-25-2014, 10:36 PM
"We just need to shoot/execute better. Just not our night." = Vacuous takes that foreshadow doom.
An admission that the Spurs don't have any adjustments they can make.

therealtruth
05-25-2014, 11:49 PM
Ibaka is the deal breaker for the Spurs finals hopes. "Just one of the nights" is patent BS, considering our recent record against OKC w/Ibaka in the playoffs.

It will be the case if the Spurs don't learn how to attack the paint with Ibaka there. Taking jumpers or continuing to get their shots blocked will favor OKC for the remainder of the series.

dg7md
05-26-2014, 12:23 AM
Seriously. That attitude reminds me of 2012 more than anything else.

Game 3-6: :cry Just one of those nights, ;( refs

Ibaka was not the difference maker in a lot of those games. Harden was impossible for us to stop and was the biggest thorn in our side.

Old School 44
05-26-2014, 12:25 AM
Announcer: "Presenting the award for Best Actor in a Basketball Drama is 5 time winner, Paul Pierce."
Pierce: "The nominees for best actor in a basketball drama are Blake Griffin in "They Hit Me Too Hard", LeBron James in "My Hammy Hurts" and Serge Ibaka in "I'm out for the Playoffs".
...And the award goes to...Serge Ibaka, "I'm out for the Playoffs!"
Ibaka: I like to thank Coach Brooks for truly believing I wouldn't be playing, the training staff for little touches like telling me to go to the locker to ride the stationary bike and especially you Paul, for your past inspiring performances.

Agloco
05-26-2014, 12:27 AM
"We just need to shoot/execute better. Just not our night." = Vacuous takes that foreshadow doom.
An admission that the Spurs don't have any adjustments they can make.

The Spurs have plenty of adjustments that they CAN make. Question is.....will they?

I think people also need to be a little more honest with themselves about how many wide open looks the Spurs missed tonight. There were more than a handful. Those usually go in.

therealtruth
05-26-2014, 01:12 AM
The Spurs have plenty of adjustments that they CAN make. Question is.....will they?

I think people also need to be a little more honest with themselves about how many wide open looks the Spurs missed tonight. There were more than a handful. Those usually go in.

It's easy to miss layups when you're trying to avoid the shotblocker.

-21-
05-26-2014, 01:26 AM
Ibaka is a bad match-up for the Spurs. It's the truth. He covers a lot of space defensively and intimidates the Spurs' players like Parker from taking shots inside. On offense he spaces the floor giving Durant, Westbrook, and Jackson more room to operate. Seemed like he was gonna go 11 for 11 again. When he got going, the entire Thunder team started to play with a lot of energy.

spurraider21
05-26-2014, 02:13 AM
meh, if boris was capable of hitting a wide open shot this game changes

Skull-1
05-26-2014, 02:39 AM
I'll always be the first to jump on the NBA = rigged bandwagon, but Ibaka's presence alone turned the Spurs from hunter to hunted. We were weak, soft, useless pussies and it has everything to do with the dick shrinkage of TP in this game. You can't expect an even amount of FTA when your offense is basically missed threes and blocked euro lay ups. There were maybe three or four missed calls in the third, but IBaka is more to blame for the FTA disparity than the refs.


Boom.

TampaDude
05-26-2014, 06:46 AM
Ibaka is a force, no doubt, but...

OKC +15 on FTAs, win by 9.

Yup, yup, yup...

Agloco
05-27-2014, 10:59 PM
It's easy to miss layups when you're trying to avoid the shotblocker.

How about the open threes?

therealtruth
05-27-2014, 11:09 PM
How about the open threes?

The offense doesn't have any rhythm. It's completely out of sorts.

Hoops Czar
05-27-2014, 11:15 PM
Ibaka is a force, no doubt, but...

OKC +15 on FTAs, win by 9.

Yup, yup, yup...

Thev Spurs got blasted two nights in a row and you're trying to find a silver lining in the point spread? The games weren't that close.

Agloco
05-27-2014, 11:21 PM
The offense doesn't have any rhythm. It's completely out of sorts.

If its an open shot, they need to bury it. You can help yourself and your confidence a lot by making open looks and keeping yourself in the game, just like Ginobili did in the first half of Game 3.

benstanfield
05-28-2014, 12:13 AM
:) bump.

:cry just one of those nights
:cry refs giving them calls
:cry each team doing what they had to at home
:cry points in the paint will be back
:cry TP will start scoring back at home & not be useless

slick'81
05-28-2014, 12:14 AM
:) bump.

:cry just one of those nights
:cry refs giving them calls
:cry each team doing what they had to at home
:cry points in the paint will be back
:cry TP will start scoring back at home & not be useless


dont forget @home Danny and splitter need to show up

Hoops Czar
05-28-2014, 12:15 AM
Ibaka played in the Thunder series and the Clippers were pretty much scoring at will.

benstanfield
05-28-2014, 12:17 AM
Ibaka played in the Thunder series and the Clippers were pretty much scoring at will.

Clippers weren't predicated on one player driving to the hoop and everyone else hitting threes or euro layups. Ibaka eats TP for breakfast and that's where the story ends.

Hoops Czar
05-28-2014, 12:24 AM
Clippers weren't predicated on one player driving to the hoop and everyone else hitting threes or euro layups. Ibaka eats TP for breakfast and that's where the story ends.

The crisp ball movement present in games 1 and 2 hasn't been present in 3 and 4. You can't lay full blame on TP.

DMC
05-28-2014, 01:03 AM
I talked a lot of shit about Ibakas injury pregame so I figured I should make this thread...

Ibaka's mere presence:

a) Exposed Parker's baby dick

b) Negated any points in the paint that the Spurs had counted on

c) Allowed Perk/Adams to play TD straight up

d) Pussified our entire lineup on the defensive glass

e) Gave OKC's perimeter defenders leeway to play more aggressively in passing lanes

f) Gave KD/WB the lift on offense that allowed them to share the load and not score half of OKC's points

g) Completely changed Pop's gameplay as evinced in the last timeout sound bite

KD/WB can make all the highlight plays they want, you will never convince me that Ibaka isn't their MVP. The entire balance of this series was changed tonight, You can say "the spurs just played badly" all you want, the bottom line is that if Ibaka gets healthier as the series goes on this thing is probably going to OKC in 6 or 7 games.

People are also ignoring the fact that Brooks stopped playing Encephalosha and Collison after game 2.

Darius McCrary
05-28-2014, 02:52 AM
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talks about ibaka at 1:45

scramby eggs
05-28-2014, 08:21 AM
I talked a lot of shit about Ibakas injury pregame so I figured I should make this thread...

Ibaka's mere presence:

a) Exposed Parker's baby dick

b) Negated any points in the paint that the Spurs had counted on

c) Allowed Perk/Adams to play TD straight up

d) Pussified our entire lineup on the defensive glass

e) Gave OKC's perimeter defenders leeway to play more aggressively in passing lanes

f) Gave KD/WB the lift on offense that allowed them to share the load and not score half of OKC's points

g) Completely changed Pop's gameplay as evinced in the last timeout sound bite

KD/WB can make all the highlight plays they want, you will never convince me that Ibaka isn't their MVP. The entire balance of this series was changed tonight, You can say "the spurs just played badly" all you want, the bottom line is that if Ibaka gets healthier as the series goes on this thing is probably going to OKC in 6 or 7 games.

I missed the last sound bite. What exactly did Pop say?

cd98
05-28-2014, 10:33 AM
The Spurs have faced better shot blockers and defensive disrupters over the years. The difference this year, unlike years past, is that Duncan can't destroy Ibaka on the block. Duncan used to kill quality defenders on the block. He'd get them in foul trouble. He'd get a basket against them when we needed it. But the prime Duncan isn't on this team. The 2014 Duncan is a jump shooter, who occasionally strolls to the block, but usually just passes it back out and takes maybe a shot or two a game from the block. 2005 Duncan would eviscerate Ibaka.

heyheymymy
05-28-2014, 11:33 AM
Duncan looks lost with Ibaka in the paint.

Oh, Gee!!
05-28-2014, 01:17 PM
2005 Duncan would eviscerate Ibaka.

Not a fair matchup. Ibaka was only like 16 years old in 2005 tbh

kobexxx
05-28-2014, 01:29 PM
better for spurs to exit now than get dragged by Heat

therealtruth
05-28-2014, 05:54 PM
The Spurs have faced better shot blockers and defensive disrupters over the years. The difference this year, unlike years past, is that Duncan can't destroy Ibaka on the block. Duncan used to kill quality defenders on the block. He'd get them in foul trouble. He'd get a basket against them when we needed it. But the prime Duncan isn't on this team. The 2014 Duncan is a jump shooter, who occasionally strolls to the block, but usually just passes it back out and takes maybe a shot or two a game from the block. 2005 Duncan would eviscerate Ibaka.

The best way to neutralize a shot blocker is to get him off the court by getting him into foul trouble.