Where does Westbrook rank on the ref-reliant Spurs opponents list, tbh?..

[Malik Hairston]

The majority of his FTAs in this series have been subjective calls with him blindly driving, mostly iffy calls..

Defensively, he has been hacking Spurs players all over the court with no calls..

Tonight, he blatantly stepped out of bounds during a steal on Tony Parker without a call, while the announcers literally laughed about it and blamed his athleticism for fooling the ref:lol..

He has only been called for 1 technical fou in the series, despite constently berating the refs and taunting players with his zoo antics..

Where does Chimpbrook rank on the list?..

[Floyd Pacquiao]

I seriously cant think of anybody else on his level...

[Malik Hairston]

Spurs fans complained about Dirk during the peak of the Mavs-Spurs rivalry, but this is far worse IMO..

Even Shaq and Kobe weren't nearly this bad, too..

[DJR210]

I pray for a drunk driver to take out Westbrook tonight on his way to the airport.

[emanueldavidginobili]

RW gets bailed out on a foul call so many times is ridiculous

[spurraider21]

the players at this point are literally out of ideas on how to defend westbrook. even if they back off, he just accelerates into them, throws a retarded hook off the side of the backboard, and gets 2 free throws.

[TE]

The worst. By far.

[therealtruth]

If you're going to foul him at least lay some wood so he thinks twice.

[TE]

You're watching deadwood, Harlem?

[poop]

Beyond anyone but 06 dirk nowitzki

[Chinook]

That one call where he was running to tbe basket backwards was just absurd.

[Splits]

I hear JR Smith is offering him a ride home. He should take it.

srsly though, only Terry and Fisher can come close, but I've never seen anything like the ref-love he gets against us.

[poop]

You guys forget 06 dirk.game 3 he shot 3-9 fg but got 24 freethrows. Dallas won by one point.

[Malik Hairston]

Just have to hope the refs in San Antonio allow the Spurs to breathe near him, a little..

[Spurminator]

I'd still put Karl Malone higher.

[ElNono]

Just have to hope the refs in San Antonio allow the Spurs to breathe near him, a little..

this, and frankly, I don't get the NBA with this stuff... it's not like that shit flies against Miami...

[UZER]

If you're going to foul him at least lay some wood so he thinks twice.

This x 1000. I don't know why someone hasn't done this yet.



That play where both feet were out of bounds right in front of the ref? Sigh

[spurtech09]

hoping the refs call a fair game in game 5....if not the spurs are pretty much toast.....still no effort tonight by the starters...hopfuly they show up game 5

[Malik Hairston]

If you're going to foul him at least lay some wood so he thinks twice.

The problem with this strategy is that the majority of Westbrook's drawn fouls are ticky-tack calls where the defender doesn't even realize that he committed a foul:lol..

[HI-FI]

Spurs fans complained about Dirk during the peak of the Mavs-Spurs rivalry, but this is far worse IMO..

Even Shaq and Kobe weren't nearly this bad, too..
you're right. Kobe would do that rapist snarl, but Chimpbrook just stares down anyone like some NWA. I can't believe the shit he gets away with. He has to be at the top of protected players.

If they're going to blatantly let him get away with everything, then they need to start hard fouling that bitch.

[therealtruth]

The problem with this strategy is that the majority of Westbrook's drawn fouls are ticky-tack calls where the defender doesn't even realize that he committed a foul:lol..

You need to do it at least once. Some of it is the Spurs are just not moving their feet to keep him in front.

[RD2191]

The Westbrook cocksucking on my FB feed is unbearable. Fuck, just beat these guys, Spurs!

[UZER]

Westbrooks foul calls go against everything basketball fundamentals teaches. You can't keep rewarding a guy that is so out of control when he drives to the bucket. Players are literally backing away and still getting called for fouls. The refs keep bailing him out.

[Hoops Czar]

Where does Malik rank on the Jealous meter? Bitching about the officiating when the team plays matador defense and can't score on a so-called terrible defense. When there's a thread about the officiating, you pretty much know damn well who's behind it.

[apalisoc_9]

Someone needs to punk his ass tbh..

have baynes foul this chimp

[TE]

The Westbrook cocksucking on my FB feed is unbearable. Fuck, just beat these guys, Spurs!
Lol it's annoying man. There are just some overall terrible basketball fans in this world. All would be right if the Spurs beat the fuck out of these bitches.

[poop]

Send in ayers or day specifically for no purpose other than to throw chimpbrook into the second row

[Malik Hairston]

Send in ayers or day specifically for no purpose other than to throw chimpbrook into the second row

Ayres is completely useless, tbh, he would fuck it up..

[Budkin]

Spurs fans complained about Dirk during the peak of the Mavs-Spurs rivalry, but this is far worse IMO..

Even Shaq and Kobe weren't nearly this bad, too..

Seriously. He goes barreling out of control and just throws shit up. Foul.

[slick'81]

That pussy gonna get his In game 5

[313]

Ayres is completely useless, tbh, he would fuck it up..
He would probably miss and take out Timmy's ACL in some strange string of events.

[Hoops Czar]

Seriously. He goes barreling out of control and just throws shit up. Foul.

Yes, Ginobili used to be able to do that but now he sticks mainly to jumpshots.

[DMC]

Great players get to the line. Look at the leaders from 2000.

Free Throws Attempted Per Game Leaders - Qualified





PER GAME
TOTAL



RK
PLAYER
TEAM
GP (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/gamesPlayed/year/2000/seasontype/2)
PPG (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/avgPoints/year/2000/seasontype/2)
FTM (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/avgFreeThrowsMade/year/2000/seasontype/2)
FTA (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/avgFreeThrowsAttempted/year/2000/seasontype/2/order/false)
FTM (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowsMade/year/2000/seasontype/2)
FTA (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowsAttempted/year/2000/seasontype/2)
FT% (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowPct/year/2000/seasontype/2)


1
Shaquille O'Neal (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/614/shaquille-o'neal), C
LAL
79
29.7
5.5
10.4
432
824
.524


2
Jerry Stackhouse (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/802/jerry-stackhouse), SF
DET
82
23.6
7.5
9.2
618
758
.815


3
Karl Malone (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/501/karl-malone), PF
UTAH
82
25.5
7.2
9.0
589
739
.797


4
Allen Iverson (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/366/allen-iverson), SG
PHI
70
28.4
6.3
8.9
442
620
.713


5
Grant Hill (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/336/grant-hill), SF
DET
74
25.8
6.5
8.2
480
604
.795


6
Tim Duncan (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/215/tim-duncan), PF
SA
74
23.2
6.2
8.1
459
603
.761


7
Shawn Kemp (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/420/shawn-kemp), C
CLE
82
17.8
6.0
7.7
493
635
.776


8
Alonzo Mourning (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/580/alonzo-mourning), C
MIA
79
21.7
5.2
7.4
414
582
.711


9
Stephon Marbury (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/509/stephon-marbury), PG
NJ
74
22.2
5.9
7.2
436
536
.813


10
Shareef Abdur-Rahim (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3/shareef-abdur-rahim), PF
VAN
82
20.3
5.4
6.7
446
551
.809




The difference is that these guys hit their FTs. We don't mind when a shitty FT shooter gets 40 a night (like Howard) but we cannot tolerate it when a guy shoots 100% and gets 15 or more.



RK
PLAYER
TEAM
GP (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/gamesPlayed/seasontype/2)
PPG (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/avgPoints/seasontype/2)
FTM (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/avgFreeThrowsMade/seasontype/2)
FTA (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/avgFreeThrowsAttempted/seasontype/2/order/false)
FTM (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowsMade/seasontype/2)
FTA (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowsAttempted/seasontype/2)
FT% (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowPct/seasontype/2)


1
Kevin Durant (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3202/kevin-durant), SF
OKC
81
32.0
8.7
9.9
703
805
.873


2
James Harden (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3992/james-harden), SG
HOU
73
25.4
7.9
9.1
576
665
.866


3
Dwight Howard (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2384/dwight-howard), C
HOU
71
18.3
4.9
9.0
349
638
.547


4
Blake Griffin (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3989/blake-griffin), PF
LAC
80
24.1
6.0
8.4
482
674
.715



DeMarcus Cousins (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4258/demarcus-cousins), C
SAC
71
22.7
6.1
8.4
432
595
.726


6
Kevin Love (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3449/kevin-love), PF
MIN
77
26.1
6.8
8.2
520
633
.821


7
DeMar DeRozan (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3978/demar-derozan), SG
TOR
79
22.7
6.6
8.0
519
630
.824


8
LeBron James (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1966/lebron-james), SF
MIA
77
27.1
5.7
7.6
439
585
.750


9
Carmelo Anthony (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1975/carmelo-anthony), SF
NY
77
27.4
6.0
7.0
459
541
.848


10
Anthony Davis (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6583/anthony-davis), PF
NO
67
20.8
5.2
6.6
348
440
.791



Here we can clearly see that these guys don't average nearly as many FTs per game as guys did 14 years ago. Notice that Tim got to the line a lot as well back then.

[mercos]

Westbrook's ref reliance will become abundantly clear if the Thunder reach the Finals. He won't get those calls against the Heat.

[heyheymymy]

thanks for the data, DMC.

[therealtruth]

Usage rate has something to do with it. WB has the freedom to dominate the ball.

[UZER]

Great players get to the line. Look at the leaders from 2000.

Free Throws Attempted Per Game Leaders - Qualified





PER GAME
TOTAL



RK
PLAYER
TEAM
GP (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/gamesPlayed/year/2000/seasontype/2)
PPG (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/avgPoints/year/2000/seasontype/2)
FTM (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/avgFreeThrowsMade/year/2000/seasontype/2)
FTA (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/avgFreeThrowsAttempted/year/2000/seasontype/2/order/false)
FTM (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowsMade/year/2000/seasontype/2)
FTA (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowsAttempted/year/2000/seasontype/2)
FT% (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowPct/year/2000/seasontype/2)


1
Shaquille O'Neal (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/614/shaquille-o'neal), C
LAL
79
29.7
5.5
10.4
432
824
.524


2
Jerry Stackhouse (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/802/jerry-stackhouse), SF
DET
82
23.6
7.5
9.2
618
758
.815


3
Karl Malone (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/501/karl-malone), PF
UTAH
82
25.5
7.2
9.0
589
739
.797


4
Allen Iverson (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/366/allen-iverson), SG
PHI
70
28.4
6.3
8.9
442
620
.713


5
Grant Hill (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/336/grant-hill), SF
DET
74
25.8
6.5
8.2
480
604
.795


6
Tim Duncan (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/215/tim-duncan), PF
SA
74
23.2
6.2
8.1
459
603
.761


7
Shawn Kemp (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/420/shawn-kemp), C
CLE
82
17.8
6.0
7.7
493
635
.776


8
Alonzo Mourning (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/580/alonzo-mourning), C
MIA
79
21.7
5.2
7.4
414
582
.711


9
Stephon Marbury (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/509/stephon-marbury), PG
NJ
74
22.2
5.9
7.2
436
536
.813


10
Shareef Abdur-Rahim (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3/shareef-abdur-rahim), PF
VAN
82
20.3
5.4
6.7
446
551
.809




The difference is that these guys hit their FTs. We don't mind when a shitty FT shooter gets 40 a night (like Howard) but we cannot tolerate it when a guy shoots 100% and gets 15 or more.



RK
PLAYER
TEAM
GP (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/gamesPlayed/seasontype/2)
PPG (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/avgPoints/seasontype/2)
FTM (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/avgFreeThrowsMade/seasontype/2)
FTA (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/avgFreeThrowsAttempted/seasontype/2/order/false)
FTM (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowsMade/seasontype/2)
FTA (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowsAttempted/seasontype/2)
FT% (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowPct/seasontype/2)


1
Kevin Durant (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3202/kevin-durant), SF
OKC
81
32.0
8.7
9.9
703
805
.873


2
James Harden (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3992/james-harden), SG
HOU
73
25.4
7.9
9.1
576
665
.866


3
Dwight Howard (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2384/dwight-howard), C
HOU
71
18.3
4.9
9.0
349
638
.547


4
Blake Griffin (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3989/blake-griffin), PF
LAC
80
24.1
6.0
8.4
482
674
.715



DeMarcus Cousins (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4258/demarcus-cousins), C
SAC
71
22.7
6.1
8.4
432
595
.726


6
Kevin Love (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3449/kevin-love), PF
MIN
77
26.1
6.8
8.2
520
633
.821


7
DeMar DeRozan (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3978/demar-derozan), SG
TOR
79
22.7
6.6
8.0
519
630
.824


8
LeBron James (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1966/lebron-james), SF
MIA
77
27.1
5.7
7.6
439
585
.750


9
Carmelo Anthony (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1975/carmelo-anthony), SF
NY
77
27.4
6.0
7.0
459
541
.848


10
Anthony Davis (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6583/anthony-davis), PF
NO
67
20.8
5.2
6.6
348
440
.791



Here we can clearly see that these guys don't average nearly as many FTs per game as guys did 14 years ago. Notice that Tim got to the line a lot as well back then.

14 years ago? Really? Why not bring wilts 100 point game? It's irrelevant to today's game.

[Venti Quattro]

Spurs fans are complaning about soft breathing fouls on Westbrook but nobody on the team dares to hack him hard either.

Duncan should have the initiative to take a flagrant one for the team. What's it gonna cost, 3 minutes on the bench?

[DMC]

14 years ago? Really? Why not bring wilts 100 point game? It's irrelevant to today's game.

Just showing that it's not uncommon for the best players in the game to get to the line about 10 times a game. There are some excursions but Westbrook won't average 14 trips a game. Tony, on the other hand, has had 2 FTA in the past 3 games combined.

[DMC]

Spurs fans are complaning about soft breathing fouls on Westbrook but nobody on the team dares to hack him hard either.

Duncan should have the initiative to take a flagrant one for the team. What's it gonna cost, 3 minutes on the bench?

Thank you. Dude runs amok in the paint because he can do so freely and get to the line. If someone in there put an elbow upside his monkey gourd, he'd think twice about that shit next time.

[UZER]

Thank you. Dude runs amok in the paint because he can do so freely and get to the line. If someone in there put an elbow upside his monkey gourd, he'd think twice about that shit next time.

This I agree with. Someone needs to wipe that smirk off that niggas face. Baynes had chances tonight.

[DMC]

This I agree with. Someone needs to wipe that smirk off that niggas face. Baynes had chances tonight.

No, Spurs are too nice. They don't have an enforcer and the big 3 aren't going to step across that line. Pop wants some nasty but he doesn't consider that in the off season when he's looking at prospects. He brings in Marco.

[UZER]

No, Spurs are too nice. They don't have an enforcer and the big 3 aren't going to step across that line. Pop wants some nasty but he doesn't consider that in the off season when he's looking at prospects. He brings in Marco.

I said in another threAd, pop wants nasty, but doesn't want people to foul. Can't have it both ways.

[crc21209]

The majority of his FTAs in this series have been subjective calls with him blindly driving, mostly iffy calls..

Defensively, he has been hacking Spurs players all over the court with no calls..

Tonight, he blatantly stepped out of bounds during a steal on Tony Parker without a call, while the announcers literally laughed about it and blamed his athleticism for fooling the ref:lol..

He has only been called for 1 technical fou in the series, despite constently berating the refs and taunting players with his zoo antics..

Where does Chimpbrook rank on the list?..

+10000. It's annoying as fuck. And I don't see what he's done in his career to deserve these calls. He's out of control about 70-80% of the time and barrels into a defender in the paint and gets the call. It's pretty pathetic..

[Venti Quattro]

Stephen Jackson could have been the one decking Westbrook (yes, the Spurs NEED to deck him if they want to alter his decision-making) but he went on the deck Tim's wife instead.

Spurs players are great system players but one of them needs to go retard and deck RWB in Game 5.

[slick'81]

There's no Felton spencer or horry or Bowen but we got mr nice guy splitter and Danny green helping every thunder player up off the floor

[DMC]

I said in another threAd, pop wants nasty, but doesn't want people to foul. Can't have it both ways.
What does he think "nasty" means, scowling? Nasty is sending Russ to the lockerroom with a mouth full of bloody chicklets after he ventures into the paint one too many times. Same with Durant, you cannot block that nigga, but you can take his legs out from under him. See how well that wire frame holds up to that fall a few times.

[IrisHockey]

What does he think "nasty" means, scowling? Nasty is sending Russ to the lockerroom with a mouth full of bloody chicklets after he ventures into the paint one too many times. Same with Durant, you cannot block that nigga, but you can take his legs out from under him. See how well that wire frame holds up to that fall a few times.

Thinking OKC in 7, D?

[Manudona]

Tonight, he blatantly stepped out of bounds during a steal on Tony Parker without a call, while the announcers literally laughed about it and blamed his athleticism for fooling the ref:lol..


The cherry on top is that he also traveled on the dunk that followed the steal, unless my eyes were cheated by some spell.

[Slippy]

All I know is this. Not one spurs guard was able to make Westbrook pay for gambling on D. Not one player took advantage of the overplaying . Pathetic effort by the guards who all seem to be in snooze mode with the dribble. You don't have to be athletically gifted to get around a guy that's taking a chance. All it requires is smarts and ball control.

The refs rewarded and protected the guy that was playing aggressive. Where's that guy for the Spurs. Green, kawai and Splitter are all going into a shell.

[Venti Quattro]

The refs rewarded and protected the guy that was playing aggressive.

Winner winner chicken dinner

[EIC]

If you're going to foul him at least lay some wood so he thinks twice.

+1,000,000

Paging SJax, Robert Horry, or Bruce Bowen.

We've got too many French/Euro pussies on the team. We need an enforcer to lay the fucking wood on that frog-faced motherfucker. If Pop is going to play scrubs, might as well have Ayers cheap shot Westbrook.

[UZER]

The cherry on top is that he also traveled on the dunk that followed the steal, unless my eyes were cheated by some spell.

Then he gets the foul call, and still bitches to the official.

[TheGreatYacht]

Russell Westbrook <3

[Mr Bones]

People jumping on and off bandwagons....

and then ending every sentence like this tbh :lol

[DMC]

No one is going to cheap shot RW on the Spurs. It's not how they play. If you cannot beat the guy, beat the guy. Is that the philosophy now?

[TheGreatYacht]

12/38 :lmao
16 Free Throws :lmao
50 shots :lmao
Russell Westbrook <3 :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Bandwagon as fuck

Thoughts, Shortbus?

[TheGreatYacht]

Shortbus doesn't post on this thread for some reason, I wonder why m8