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cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 09:50 AM
So, thanks to the Spurs, I had some free time open up last night. Decided I would actually look at some books about the blues and see if anything looked interesting. I downloaded a sample from Delta Blues : The Life and Times of the Mississippi Masters Who Revolutionized American Music. Yes, that's the actual title. I was committed to reading it if it was even OK but it turned out to be very well written and insightful. I ended up buying the book and am about 1/4 in. If anyone has any interest at all in the subject, I highly recommend this one. It doesn't really glamorize the blues but instead gives an extremely readable account of the history combined with some of the author's opinions.

Check it out nigga

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51fP-GHdFzL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-v3-big,TopRight,0,-55_SX278_SY278_PIkin4,BottomRight,1,22_AA300_SH20_ OU01_.jpg

xmas1997
05-28-2014, 11:01 AM
So, thanks to the Spurs, I had some free time open up last night. Decided I would actually look at some books about the blues and see if anything looked interesting. I downloaded a sample from Delta Blues : The Life and Times of the Mississippi Masters Who Revolutionized American Music. Yes, that's the actual title. I was committed to reading it if it was even OK but it turned out to be very well written and insightful. I ended up buying the book and am about 1/4 in. If anyone has any interest at all in the subject, I highly recommend this one. It doesn't really glamorize the blues but instead gives an extremely readable account of the history combined with some of the author's opinions.

Check it out nigga

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51fP-GHdFzL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-v3-big,TopRight,0,-55_SX278_SY278_PIkin4,BottomRight,1,22_AA300_SH20_ OU01_.jpg


I'll check it out.

On a side note, do you happen to know when jazz broke away from blues to become its own separate genre?
As a musician I am curious to know.

Avante
05-28-2014, 11:06 AM
Here's what I'm going to do for you. These are those Delta players, yes all of them who recorded between 1926 and 1942. Now a lot of guys were born there but would move on and become famous somewhere else, John Lee Hooker a good example of that, he s a Detroit bluesman. Those listed are known as "Delta Players" unless noted otherwise

1926-1929

Freddie Spruell
Rube Lacy...one record****
Tommy Johnson...originater of that Crossroads story
Ishman Bracey
Rosie May Moore/Mary Butler...used both
Charlie McCoy
Bobby Grant...one record
Jim Thompkins..one song!
William Harris
Mississippi John Hurt...from Avalon
Uncle Bud Walker
Cryin' Sam Collins
Garfield Akers
Joe Calicott
Big Bill Broonzy...more of a Chicago player
Kid Bailey
Charley Patton,,,,,the most influensal of all Delta players

1930-1935

Skip James...not really from the Delta, Bentonia
Geechie Wiley
Mississippi Sheiks
Big Joe Williams...more of a St. Louis player
Elvie Thomas
Mattie Delaney
Son House
Willie Brown
Bukka White
Arthur Pettis
Mississippi Bracey

1936-1942

Mississippi Moaner (Isaiah Nettles)
Sonny Boy Nelson
Willie "Poor Boy" Lofton
Moses Andrews
Tommy McClennen
Robert Petway
Robert Lockwood
Willie "61" Blackwell
Robert Johnson
Muddy Waters...while known as a Chicago bluesman he did record while in the Delta
David "Honeyboy" Edwards

Mississippi Fred McDowell the most important Delta player to come later on, he first recorded in 1959. Right there on his front porch, just like Muddy Waters.

Let me know if you come across anyone in the book not mentioned there. It's pretty common on CD's to find all of Misissippi considered the Delta.


**** he became a preacher and dumped them blues. I found out he was living/preaching in nearby Bakersfield (an hour away) I was going to go find this originator of them Delta blues, he died before I got the chance, bummer.

xmas1997
05-28-2014, 11:09 AM
Here's what I'm going to do for you. These are those Delta players, yes all of them who recorded between 1926 and 1942. Now a lot of guys were born there but would move on and become famous somewhere else, John Lee Hooker a good example of that, he s a Detroit bluesman. Those listed are known as "Delta Players" unless noted otherwise

1926-1929

Freddie Spruell
Rube Lacy...one record
Tommy Johnson...originater of that Crossroads story
Ishman Bracey
Rosie May Moore/Mary Butler...used both
Charlie McCoy
Bobby Grant...one record
Jim Thompkins..one song!
William Harris
Mississippi John Hurt...from Avalon
Uncle Bud Walker
Cryin' Sam Collins
Garfield Akers
Big Bill Broonzy...more of a Chicago player
Kid Bailey
Charley Patton,,,,,the most influensal of all Delta players

1930-1935

Skip James...not really from the Delta, Bentonia
Geechie Wiley
Mississippi Sheiks
Big Joe Williams...more of a St. Louis player
Elvie Thomas
Mattie Delaney
Son House
Willie Brown
Bukka White
Arthur Pettis
Mississippi Bracey

1936-1942

Mississippi Moaner (Isaiah Nettles)
Sonny Boy Nelson
Willie "Poor Boy" Lofton
Moses Andrews
Tommy McClennen
Robert Petway
Robert Lockwood
Willie "61" Blackwell
Robert Johnson
Muddy Waters...while known as a Chicago bluesman he did record while in the Delta
David "Honeyboy" Edwards

Mississippi Fred McDowell the most important Delta player to come later on, he first recored in 1959.

Let me know if you come across anyone in the book not mentioned there. It's pretty common on CD's to find all of Misissippi considered the Delta.

Avente, don't know if you answered this question yet, but do you know when jazz first broke away from blues to become its own genre?

johnsmith
05-28-2014, 11:12 AM
Avente, don't know if you answered this question yet, but do you know when jazz first broke away from blues to become its own genre?

Will you believe him though? I mean, you hate liars and trolls and he told us all that's pretty much what he does...so I'm not sure if you could take his word or anything....I assume avante is telling the truth here because he seems to take music pretty serious but how will you know?

xmas1997
05-28-2014, 11:15 AM
Will you believe him though? I mean, you hate liars and trolls and he told us all that's pretty much what he does...so I'm not sure if you could take his word or anything....I assume avante is telling the truth here because he seems to take music pretty serious but how will you know?

Fuck off, liar! :lmao:rollin

Clipper Nation
05-28-2014, 11:15 AM
Fuck off, liar! :lmao:rollin
Hypocrite

Avante
05-28-2014, 11:16 AM
Avente, don't know if you answered this question yet, but do you know when jazz first broke away from blues to become its own genre?

While blues came before jazz, it was jazz that first showed up on records, the year 1917 is when we started seeing the music on record.

xmas1997
05-28-2014, 11:19 AM
Hypocrite

Fuck off, liar! :lol:lmao:rollin

xmas1997
05-28-2014, 11:19 AM
While blues came before jazz, it was jazz that first showed up on records, the year 1917 is when we started seeing the music on record.

Thanks for the info.
Do you know the artist?

Clipper Nation
05-28-2014, 11:20 AM
Thanks for the info.
Do you know the artist?
^ Hypocrite trusting the words of an admitted liar and troll ^

Avante
05-28-2014, 11:23 AM
Thanks for the info.
Do you know the artist?

Here ya go.
http://www.redhotjazz.com/originsarticle.html

xmas1997
05-28-2014, 11:32 AM
^ Hypocrite trusting the words of an admitted liar and troll ^

Yawn. Fuck off, liar! :lmao

xmas1997
05-28-2014, 11:33 AM
Here ya go.
http://www.redhotjazz.com/originsarticle.html

Wow! Thanks!

Clipper Nation
05-28-2014, 11:36 AM
Yawn. Fuck off, liar! :lmao
Hypocrite

xmas1997
05-28-2014, 11:38 AM
Yawn. Fuck off, liar! :lmao

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 11:59 AM
Here's what I'm going to do for you. These are those Delta players, yes all of them who recorded between 1926 and 1942. Now a lot of guys were born there but would move on and become famous somewhere else, John Lee Hooker a good example of that, he s a Detroit bluesman. Those listed are known as "Delta Players" unless noted otherwise

1926-1929

Freddie Spruell
Rube Lacy...one record****
Tommy Johnson...originater of that Crossroads story
Ishman Bracey
Rosie May Moore/Mary Butler...used both
Charlie McCoy
Bobby Grant...one record
Jim Thompkins..one song!
William Harris
Mississippi John Hurt...from Avalon
Uncle Bud Walker
Cryin' Sam Collins
Garfield Akers
Joe Calicott
Big Bill Broonzy...more of a Chicago player
Kid Bailey
Charley Patton,,,,,the most influensal of all Delta players

1930-1935

Skip James...not really from the Delta, Bentonia
Geechie Wiley
Mississippi Sheiks
Big Joe Williams...more of a St. Louis player
Elvie Thomas
Mattie Delaney
Son House
Willie Brown
Bukka White
Arthur Pettis
Mississippi Bracey

1936-1942

Mississippi Moaner (Isaiah Nettles)
Sonny Boy Nelson
Willie "Poor Boy" Lofton
Moses Andrews
Tommy McClennen
Robert Petway
Robert Lockwood
Willie "61" Blackwell
Robert Johnson
Muddy Waters...while known as a Chicago bluesman he did record while in the Delta
David "Honeyboy" Edwards

Mississippi Fred McDowell the most important Delta player to come later on, he first recorded in 1959. Right there on his front porch, just like Muddy Waters.

Let me know if you come across anyone in the book not mentioned there. It's pretty common on CD's to find all of Misissippi considered the Delta.


**** he became a preacher and dumped them blues. I found out he was living/preaching in nearby Bakersfield (an hour away) I was going to go find this originator of them Delta blues, he died before I got the chance, bummer.

LOL. I'm reading this book for pure enjoyment. Not to respond to each of your posts that are deliberately inaccurate (exclusive of my reply here).

xmas1997
05-28-2014, 12:02 PM
LOL. I'm reading this book for pure enjoyment. Not to respond to each of your posts that are deliberately inaccurate (exclusive of my reply here).

Both of you guys have extensive knowledge on the subject, and even though I play it, you have more than I do.
Just don't understand why you have an issue with each other tbh.

Avante
05-28-2014, 12:10 PM
LOL. I'm reading this book for pure enjoyment. Not to respond to each of your posts that are deliberately inaccurate (exclusive of my reply here).

You cannot talk Delta Blues and not talk those I mentioned as you are seeing.

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 12:15 PM
Both of you guys have extensive knowledge on the subject, and even though I play it, you have more than I do.
Just don't understand why you have an issue with each other tbh.

someone needs to roll you and Avante up in a big sweaty man burrito and feed it to the coyotes.

xmas1997
05-28-2014, 12:17 PM
someone needs to roll you and Avante up in a big sweaty man burrito and feed it to the coyotes.

Yawn. Fuck off, liar! :lmao
I didn't attack you, yet you post An attack?

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 12:19 PM
Yawn. Fuck off, liar! :lmao
I didn't attack you, yet you post An attack?

shit...why am I a liar now?

xmas1997
05-28-2014, 12:23 PM
shit...why am I a liar now?

Honestly, I don't know if you are or not. But if you are a troll, then you are a liar too.
That is just my patent reply to the trolls on here because they bore me to tears.
They are not even worth bashing anymore. They are too stupid to realize they are being owned, plus they rarely read what is posted anyway.
I was being civil with you asking an honest question and you fired back your attack.
I figured you must be another idiotic ignorant troll.

Avante
05-28-2014, 12:27 PM
someone needs to roll you and Avante up in a big sweaty man burrito and feed it to the coyotes.

You need to pull your head out of your ass amigo, ok?

While reading your book you'll be..Avante mentioned him.

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 12:50 PM
Where's your book, Avante?

Avante
05-28-2014, 12:59 PM
Where's your book, Avante?

Which one I have 12 of them?

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 01:15 PM
Which one I have 12 of them?

You've written 12 books on them ol' blues?! I find that hard to believe.

Avante
05-28-2014, 01:19 PM
You've written 12 books on them ol' blues?! I find that hard to believe.

I'll go slow...

This thread is about a book the kid is reading. Not a book he wrote, ok?
I have 12 books on them blues, I'm not a writer..ok?

Wow!

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 01:22 PM
You need to pull your head out of your ass amigo, ok?

While reading your book you'll be..Avante mentioned him.

If I ever think of you when I'm not on Spurstalk, someone needs to shoot me.

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 01:32 PM
I'll go slow...

This thread is about a book the kid is reading. Not a book he wrote, ok?
I have 12 books on them blues, I'm not a writer..ok?

Wow!

Why do you think you are more of an authority than the guy who researched and wrote this book?

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 01:36 PM
Ted Gioia (born October 21, 1957) is an American jazz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz) critic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critic) and music historian, best known for his books The History of Jazz and Delta Blues, both selected as notable books of the year by The New York Times. He is one of the editors in chief of the Encyclopedia of Jazz Musicians (http://www.jazz.com/encyclopedia). He is also a jazz musician and one of the founders of Stanford University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_University)'s jazz studies program.

http://bits.wikimedia.org/static-1.24wmf5/skins/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ted_Gioia.jpg)
Ted Gioia (photo by Dave Shafer)


He is the author of several other books on music, including West Coast Jazz (1992), Healing Songs (2006), Work Songs (2006) and The Birth (and Death) of the Cool (2009). His most recent book is The Jazz Standards: A Guide to the Repertoire, published by Oxford University Press in July 2012. A second fully updated and expanded edition of The History of Jazz was published by Oxford University Press in 2011. He is currently writing a book on the history of love songs.
The Dallas Morning News has called Ted Gioia "one of the outstanding music historians in America." Three of his books have been honored with the ASCAP-Deems Taylor award. His concept of "post-cool (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_%28aesthetic%29)," originally described in his book The Birth (and Death) of the Cool, was selected as one of the "Big Ideas of 2012" by Adbusters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adbusters) magazine.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Gioia#cite_note-1) In 2006, Gioia was the first to expose, in an article in the Los Angeles Times, the FBI files on folk and roots music icon Alan Lomax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Lomax). He founded www.jazz.com (http://www.jazz.com/), a music portal launched in December 2007, and served as President and Editor until 2010. He has also created a series of web sites that focus on various aspects of contemporary fiction, including Conceptual Fiction (http://www.conceptualfiction.com), Great Books Guide (http://www.greatbooksguide.com), The New Canon (http://www.thenewcanon.com), Postmodern Mystery (http://www.postmodernmystery.com/), and Fractious Fiction (http://www.fractiousfiction.com).
Gioia is a jazz pianist and composer whose recordings include The End of the Open Road (1988), Tango Cool (1990) and The City is a Chinese Vase (1998). He has also produced recordings featuring Bobby Hutcherson, John Handy, Buddy Montgomery and others.
Gioia grew up in an Italian-Mexican household in Hawthorne, California, and later earned degrees from Stanford University and Oxford University, as well as an MBA from Stanford's Graduate School of Business. He served for a period as an adviser to Fortune 500 companies while with the Boston Consulting Group and McKinsey & Co. He is also the owner of one of the largest collections of research materials on jazz and ethnic music in the Western United States.
Ted Gioia is the brother of Dana Gioia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Gioia), poet and former chairman of the National Endowment for the Arts.[1] (http://alumni.stanford.edu/news/magazine/2007/marapr/show/gioia.html)

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 01:38 PM
Just think what that guy could have accomplished if he had those 12 books of Avante's . . . staggering.

Avante
05-28-2014, 01:42 PM
Why do you think you are more of an authority than the guy who researched and wrote this book?

I know I;m more of an authority than the guy who wrote and researched that book. When it comes to them blues.

Dude, you really don't seem to be getting this. There isn't an old blues singer I;'m not aware of, ok? Kneedeep into this stuff...ok?

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 01:43 PM
I know I;m more of an authority than the guy who wrote and researched that book. When it comes toi them blues.

Dude, you really don't seem to be getting this. There isn't an old blues singer I;'m not aware of, ok? Kneedeep into this stuff...ok?

So, where's your book?

xmas1997
05-28-2014, 01:44 PM
Kieth Richardson has been searching them out too in order to help them, if I am not mistaken.

Avante
05-28-2014, 01:45 PM
Just think what that guy could have accomplished if he had those 12 books of Avante's . . . staggering.

Not just the books but the music, do you really think thast cat has listened to more blues than myself?

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 01:47 PM
Just think what that guy could have accomplished if he had those 12 books of Avante's . . . staggering.

IDK. I'm wondering why he wasted all that time and money on Stanford and Oxford (who BTW have not won any 4x100 sprints relays since the invention of black people) when Avante knows all dem blues from a few mags.

Avante
05-28-2014, 01:47 PM
So, where's your book?

My son in law is a computer genius, he knows all there is to know about them. Hell, he can work on mine from his home....whoa! My grandpa was an ace mechanic, there was nothing he couldn't fix. Neither ever wrote a book.

I could talk about blues cats that author has never heard off.

leemajors
05-28-2014, 01:49 PM
DOES NOT COMPUTE MUST USE ANECDOTE

Avante
05-28-2014, 01:49 PM
IDK. I'm wondering why he wasted all that time and money on Stanford and Oxford (who BTW have not won any 4x100 sprints relays since the invention of black people) when Avante knows all dem blues from a few mags.

Try 12 huge books and over 1000 blues CD's.

I'd take Ted to school.

Oh yeah, over 100 Blues Magazines.

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 01:52 PM
Try 12 huge books and over 1000 blues CD's.

I'd take Ted to school.

LMAO. It's too bad you ruined your troll already. You should have held back some. Seriously, PM me the log in info.

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 01:52 PM
My son in law is a computer genius, he knows all there is to know about them. Hell, he can work on mine from his home....whoa! My grandpa was an ace mechanic, there was nothing he couldn't fix. Neither ever wrote a book.

I could talk about blues cats that author has never heard off.

So, being a blowhard loser who's never accomplished anything is hereditary?

Avante
05-28-2014, 01:55 PM
So, being a blowhard loser who's never accomplished anything is hereditary?

When is a son in law.....hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My grandpa owned his own business, I still get renewals from my insurance days. And am totally set $$$$$ for life.

Yep, totally wrong as usual.

Avante
05-28-2014, 01:55 PM
LMAO. It's too bad you ruined your troll already. You should have held back some. Seriously, PM me the log in info.

I don't troll when talking music.

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 01:57 PM
When is a son in law.....hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My grandpa owned his own business, I still get renewals from my insurance days. And am totally set $$$$$ for life.

Yep, totally wrong as usual.

So, what good is all that knowledge if you don't do anything with it besides bulldog some losers on a message board? And . . . you can't even impress us.

Your son in law must have caught the loser disease by osmosis.

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 01:58 PM
I don't troll when talking music.

You don't talk music. You make lists and bulldog.

Avante
05-28-2014, 02:01 PM
So, what good is all that knowledge if you don't do anything with it besides bulldog some losers on a message board? And . . . you can't even impress us.

Your son in law must have caught the loser disease by osmosis.

Ya fucked up there slugger talking about son in laws and heredity, so just shut up..ok?

Why can't I just love the music know all about it like I do track and football? I also know all about literature but don't need to write a book. Just a guy who likes to know all he can.

Dude, leechs like you don't impress anyone either...ok?

Avante
05-28-2014, 02:02 PM
You don't talk music. You make lists and bulldog.

Try reading my ..The Blues...thread little guy. Read what I told Katherine about the music.

Do you ever pay any attention?

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 02:08 PM
To: [email protected]
From: XXXXXXX

Hi Ted,

I just started reading your book, Delta Blues. I'm about a quarter in and am really enjoying your writing in telling the history of the music. I don't read much non-fiction but your work reads much like a good novel while still conveying the pertinent facts.

Besides being a fan of the blues, I am also a fan of the San Antonio Spurs. As such, I often peruse a message board called SpursTalk. There is a self purported blues aficionado named, Avante. He claims to know more about the subject than you do even though I don't think he as done anything besides getting information from the internet and Wikipedia. If you have a few minutes, would you mind reviewing his blues comments in the thread linked below and let me know if he knows what he's talking about?

Thanks and keep up the good work,

Bingo

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 02:10 PM
To: [email protected]
From: XXXXXXX

sorry...here is the link....
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=233799&p=7366809#post7366809

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 02:16 PM
Ya fucked up there slugger talking about son in laws and heredity, so just shut up..ok?

Why can't I just love the music know all about it like I do track and football? I also know all about literature but don't need to write a book. Just a guy who likes to know all he can.

Dude, leechs like you don't impress anyone either...ok?

Well, your wife married you, so . .

I don't have a problem with acquiring knowledge. I have a problem with how people behave when they have knowledge. You can impart wisdom/knowledge without pretending to be superior. If you were truly, honestly in pursuit of knowledge you could accept what other people might bring to the table instead of thinking you have it all figured out.

I'm not here to impress anyone. I don't need that validation from a message board.


Try reading my ..The Blues...thread little guy. Read what I told Katherine about the music.

Do you ever pay any attention?

I did. I didn't see anything particularly insightful that would stimulate the interest of a broad audience. I would rather read Ted's book.

Avante
05-28-2014, 02:17 PM
To: [email protected]
From: XXXXXXX

Hi Ted,

I just started reading your book, Delta Blues. I'm about a quarter in and am really enjoying your writing in telling the history of the music. I don't read much non-fiction but your work reads much like a good novel while still conveying the pertinent facts.

Besides being a fan of the blues, I am also a fan of the San Antonio Spurs. As such, I often peruse a message board called SpursTalk. There is a self purported blues aficionado named, Avante. He claims to know more about the subject than you do even though I don't think he as done anything besides getting information from the internet and Wikipedia. If you have a few minutes, would you mind reviewing his blues comments in the thread linked below and let me know if he knows what he's talking about?

Thanks and keep up the good work,

Bingo

What seperates me from Ted is that he's not going to be into the obscure. While I am, he's going to be talking about the well known/legends. While I can talk...

Seth Richard
Bo Jones
Wilie Harris
Papa Harvey Hull
Papa Too Sweet
Walter Beasley
John D. Fox
Alec Johnson
Eli Framer
Too Tight Henry

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 02:19 PM
What seperates me from Ted is that he's not going to be into the obscure. While I am, he's going to be talking about the well known/legends. While I can talk...

Seth Richard
Bo Jones
Wilie Harris
Papa Harvey Hull
Papa Too Sweet
Walter Beasley
John D. Fox
Alec Johnson
Eli Framer
Too Tight Henry

Tell me about Walter Beasley. Not a full bio mind you, but something I can't find within 3 seconds on the internet.

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 02:20 PM
What seperates me from Ted is that he's not going to be into the obscure. While I am, he's going to be talking about the well known/legends. While I can talk...

Seth Richard
Bo Jones
Wilie Harris
Papa Harvey Hull
Papa Too Sweet
Walter Beasley
John D. Fox
Alec Johnson
Eli Framer
Too Tight Henry

Totally agree. He's not going to know about anything that he can't find in Wyman's tome.

Avante
05-28-2014, 02:21 PM
Well, your wife married you, so . .

I don't have a problem with acquiring knowledge. I have a problem with how people behave when they have knowledge. You can impart wisdom/knowledge without pretending to be superior. If you were truly, honestly in pursuit of knowledge you could accept what other people might bring to the table instead of thinking you have it all figured out.

I'm not here to impress anyone. I don't need that validation from a message board.



I did. I didn't see anything particularly insightful that would stimulate the interest of a broad audience. I would rather read Ted's book.

I only have a few passions, when it comes to them I do have it all figured out, been into those things a long long time.

I have no doubts if I gave you a brand new 100 dollar bill you'd find something wrong with it....right?

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 02:22 PM
I only have a few passions, when it comes to them I do have it all figured out, been into those things a long long time.

I have no doubts if I gave you a brand new 100 dollar bill you'd find something wrong with it....right?

I would definitely scrutinize it's authenticity.

Avante
05-28-2014, 02:23 PM
Tell me about Walter Beasley. Not a full bio mind you, but something I can't find within 3 seconds on the internet.

Beasley mostly played second guitar with Slyvester Weaver, he did record a couple solo sides as the vocalist.

It's not about what you can find in 3 seconds it's about me bringing someone to you you knew nothing about. Now you do, see how that works?

Avante
05-28-2014, 02:25 PM
I would definitely scrutinize it's authenticity.

That's why your opinion means so little to me.

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 02:26 PM
Beasley mostly played second guitar with Sykvester Weaver, he did record a couple solo sides as the vocalist.

Beasley mostly played second guitar with Slyvester Weaver, he did record a couple solo sides as the vocalist.

God damn. You fucked it up twice now Magoo.

It's Sylvester

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 02:27 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_Weaver
http://prewarblues.org/2005/06/soft-steel-piston/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdCuIHPAm58

Avante
05-28-2014, 02:28 PM
God damn. You fucked it up twice now Magoo.

It's Sylvester

Spelling, you're down to spelling, come on man.

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 02:28 PM
It's Sylvester

He's right, you know. i looked it up on the internet.

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 02:30 PM
That's why your opinion means so little to me.

Obviously.

Avante
05-28-2014, 02:30 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_Weaver
http://prewarblues.org/2005/06/soft-steel-piston/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdCuIHPAm58

But, did you know anything about the two before today?

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 02:32 PM
But, did you know anything about the two before today?

Honestly? No. Not that I recall anyway.

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 02:32 PM
Spelling, you're down to spelling, come on man.

It's just funny because originally, you wrote "Sykvester". But I read it as "Skyvester" which I thought was kind of a cool take on the more traditional "Sylvester". But then I realized that you misspelled it and it didn't even say "Skyvester". But you caught it also and went back and changed it. But you fucked it up again and wrote "Slyvester". But I admit I did Google "Slyvester" just to make sure there wasn't some retard bluesman who spelled his name that way. So in a round about way, you've succeeded in making me waste more of my precious time today.

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 02:33 PM
Honestly? No. Not that I recall anyway.

What about Skyvester? Skyvester Ringtone. You know that one?

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 02:34 PM
What about Skyvester? Skyvester Ringtone. You know that one?

Yes. Big fan.

Avante
05-28-2014, 02:36 PM
Honestly? No. Not that I recall anyway.

So why not turn people on to what took me years to accumulate? See ya learned something today.

Avante
05-28-2014, 02:37 PM
It's just funny because originally, you wrote "Sykvester". But I read it as "Skyvester" which I thought was kind of a cool take on the more traditional "Sylvester". But then I realized that you misspelled it and it didn't even say "Skyvester". But you caught it also and went back and changed it. But you fucked it up again and wrote "Slyvester". But I admit I did Google "Slyvester" just to make sure there wasn't some retard bluesman who spelled his name that way. So in a round about way, you've succeeded in making me waste more of my precious time today.

You can worry about spelling, obviously, I don't.

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 02:39 PM
So why not turn people on to what took me years to accumulate? See ya lernerd something today.

I guess I lernerd something, but am I better for it? I don't think so. All that stuff sounds like Clarence Ashley to me. I'm not that into it.

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 02:40 PM
You can worry about spelling, obviously, I don't.

You obviously worry enough about it to go back and try to correct it. You're just too dumb to actually get it right.
BTW, you're the fucking king of the "edited at by" posts.

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 02:41 PM
I like this dude.

y3JEVhOAyMo

johnsmith
05-28-2014, 02:43 PM
You know what I always found interesting about avante in regards to this site? Ask him what he thinks about the Spurs.

He has no idea

Avante
05-28-2014, 02:43 PM
I guess I lernerd something, but am I better for it? I don't think so. All that stuff sounds like Clarence Ashley to me. I'm not that into it.

So you are so tiny to....lernerd....wow! That right there says it all about you.

Avante
05-28-2014, 02:44 PM
You obviously worry enough about it to go back and try to correct it. You're just too dumb to actually get it right.
BTW, you're the fucking king of the "edited at by" posts.

I'm one of those speed typers who then goes back and corrects everything.

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 02:46 PM
So you are so tiny to....lernerd....wow! That right there says it all about you.

I thought we were doing a pre-war blues colloquial thing.

Avante
05-28-2014, 02:46 PM
I like this dude.

y3JEVhOAyMo

Richard "Rabbit" Brown was from Louisiana, he recored a half dozen tunes or so. That one is a true classic, one of the gems of them old blues.

Give Henry Spaulings "Cairo" a listen.

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 02:47 PM
Richard "Rabbit" Brown was from Louisiana, he recored a half dozen tunes or so. That one is a true classic one of the gems of them old blues.

I know. It's good.

johnsmith
05-28-2014, 02:50 PM
Richard "Rabbit" Brown was from Louisiana, he recored a half dozen tunes or so. That one is a true classic, one of the gems of them old blues.

Give Henry Spaulings "Cairo" a listen.

What did you think about games 3 and 4? What do you predict happens Thursday and beyond?

Avante
05-28-2014, 02:50 PM
You know what I always found interesting about avante in regards to this site? Ask him what he thinks about the Spurs.

He has no idea

When have I ever been asked about the Spurs. What do you wanna know? Wanna talk about how old they are now looking, how the Thunder are too quick for them? Wanna talk about how Tony Parker is blowing it?

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 02:50 PM
Give Henry Spaulings "Cairo" a listen.

Spaulding. I've heard that one. He recorded on Brunswick. The first Crickets records came out on that label.

johnsmith
05-28-2014, 02:51 PM
When have I ever been asked about the Spurs. What do you wanna know? Wanna talk about how old they are now loking, how the Thunder is too quick for them? Wanna talk about how Tony Parker is blowing it?

I've asked you countless times since you've been a member here and you've never once offered up anything...what you're doing now is pretending to care and just googling results...it's very obvious.

Avante
05-28-2014, 02:55 PM
I've asked you countless times since you've been a member here and you've never once offered up anything...what you're doing now is pretending to care and just googling results...it's very obvious.

Dude, I haven't missed a game of the series. Wanna talk about all those Spurs starters sitting on the bench in the 4th last night? Wanna talk about that look that Duncan gave?

Basketball is my relaxed sport. I don't bet on the games or try and remember stats etcs, it's just enjoying the greatest athletes in the world for me.

Wrong as usual.

johnsmith
05-28-2014, 02:56 PM
Dude, I haven't missed a game of the series. Wanna talk about all those Spurs starters sitting on the bench in the 4th last night? Wanna talk about that look that Duncan gave?

Wrong as usual.

You're lying

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 02:56 PM
Hey, johnsmith. We're talking dem ol' blues here. Take it upstairs, homeslice.

johnsmith
05-28-2014, 02:57 PM
Hey, johnsmith. We're talking dem ol' blues here. Take it upstairs, homeslice.

Agreed

Avante
05-28-2014, 03:00 PM
You're lying

No I'm not guy, seen ever game the Spurs have played in these playoffs.

johnsmith
05-28-2014, 03:01 PM
No I'm not guy, seen ever game the Spurs have played in these playoffs.

Oh wrecker asked me to leave it alone in this thread, and because he doesn't absolutely suck as a human being the way you do and actually seems like an alright guy, I'm going to do just that.

But you're lying.

TeyshaBlue
05-28-2014, 03:02 PM
I'll check it out.

On a side note, do you happen to know when jazz broke away from blues to become its own separate genre?
As a musician I am curious to know.
I'm sure there are a thousand opinions on this but earliest delineator I can think of would be the emergence of ragtime in the late 1800's to early 1900's. Ragtime seemed to capture the rhythmic elements of African music combined with structural elements of European compositions. I love to play rags....and a good stride technique underpins the ability to effectively improvise. Clark Terry turned me onto ragtime as a technique building tool about 25 years ago. Best piece of advice I've ever been given.

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 03:07 PM
Oh wrecker asked me to leave it alone in this thread, and because he doesn't absolutely suck as a human being the way you do and actually seems like an alright guy, I'm going to do just that.

But you're lying.

It's cool. I was just joking. You notice how quickly he clammed up when I proved I'm not a total idiot about dem ol' blues.

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 03:11 PM
I'm sure there are a thousand opinions on this but earliest delineator I can think of would be the emergence of ragtime in the late 1800's to early 1900's. Ragtime seemed to capture the rhythmic elements of African music combined with structural elements of European compositions. I love to play rags....and a good stride technique underpins the ability to effectively improvise. Clark Terry turned me onto ragtime as a technique building tool about 25 years ago. Best piece of advice I've ever been given.

Look. Someone said something interesting and informative, relayed in a personal experience about music and wasn't a complete superior jerk asshole about it.

Avante
05-28-2014, 03:32 PM
It's cool. I was just joking. You notice how quickly he clammed up when I proved I'm not a total idiot about dem ol' blues.

I'm actually carrying on 3 converstions on three different sites.

I knew you knew a little about them blues guy. But I could teach a class on the music...ok?

johnsmith
05-28-2014, 03:33 PM
I'm actually carry on 3 converstions on three different sites.

I knew you knew a little about them blues guy. But I could teach a class on the music...ok?

What would the class consist of...could you make us some sort of semester long syllabus?

Avante
05-28-2014, 03:36 PM
What would the class consist of...could you make us some sort of semester long syllabus?


We'd have to start in Africa and the instruments the natives used. Then here came those slavey years and that plantation life. That's where it all started. Then we'd move up into what came just before the first recordings in the early 20's.

Look guy I have 12 huge books on the subject right over there, no need to try and play this...ok?

johnsmith
05-28-2014, 03:41 PM
We'd have to start in Africa and the instruments the natives used. Then here came those slavey years and that plantation life. That's where it all started. Then we'd move up into what came just before the first recordings in the early 20's.

Look guy I have 12 huge books on the subject right over there, no need to try and play this...ok?

Hey, easy there pal, I believe you in regards to your blues knowledge....I'd just like to see a well written two page syllabus outlining what you would teach a class in regards to this particular subject. If you could have that to us by Friday it would be great. I'd get to work though, your students are hungry for information.

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 03:43 PM
I'm actually carrying on 3 converstions on three different sites.

I knew you knew a little about them blues guy. But I could teach a class on the music...ok?

Let me guess...you're going to choose high school juniors.

Avante
05-28-2014, 03:46 PM
Hey, easy there pal, I believe you in regards to your blues knowledge....I'd just like to see a well written two page syllabus outlining what you would teach a class in regards to this particular subject. If you could have that to us by Friday it would be great. I'd get to work though, your students are hungry for information.

Not too concerned with what you want, honest!

Avante
05-28-2014, 03:46 PM
Let me guess...you're going to choose high school juniors.

I seriously doubt Blues Appreciation will be a HS subject. A lot of violence, sex, drugs, booze in them old blues.

Don't think...


"Cocaine Blues"

"My Pencil Won't Write No More"

"My Banana in Your Fruitbasket"

"Whiskeyheaded Woman"

...would run at the HS level.

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 03:48 PM
I seriously doubt Blues Appreciation will be a HS school.

wow...you already have your excuse ready.

"well officer, she couldn't have been in high school because I was teaching her Blues Appreciation."

Avante
05-28-2014, 03:52 PM
wow...you already have your excuse ready.

"well officer, she couldn't have been in high school because I was teaching her Blues Appreciation."

That was sorta funny months ago, isn't it pretty much been played out little guy? Everyone knows my stance on that and how I find that sick.

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 03:54 PM
That was sorta funny months ago, isn't it pretty much been played out little guy? Everyone knows my stance on that and how I find that sick.

I didn't participate in it a few months ago.

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 03:57 PM
To: [email protected]
From: XXXXXXX

sorry...here is the link....
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=233799&p=7366809#post7366809

shit...I had to resend because I misspelled his name.

johnsmith
05-28-2014, 04:06 PM
Not too concerned with what you want, honest!

Oh you've made it quite clear in this site that you don't care about anyone but yourself.

Clipper Nation
05-28-2014, 04:07 PM
Oh you've made it quite clear in this site that you don't care about anyone but yourself.

Not true.... he also cares deeply about what everyone else thinks of him, as evidenced from his desperate need to "prove" his vast knowledge of useless trivia in every thread :lol

Avante
05-28-2014, 04:13 PM
Oh you've made it quite clear in this site that you don't care about anyone but yourself.

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Avante
05-28-2014, 04:14 PM
Not true.... he also cares deeply about what everyone else thinks of him, as evidenced from his desperate need to "prove" his vast knowledge of useless trivia in every thread :lol

We all have our thing little fella, yours is following everyone around so ya can hump on their leg.

johnsmith
05-28-2014, 04:20 PM
We all have our thing little fella, yours is following everyone around so ya can hump on their leg.
And yours is being incredibly insecure

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 04:20 PM
Hey, easy there pal, I believe you in regards to your blues knowledge....I'd just like to see a well written two page syllabus outlining what you would teach a class in regards to this particular subject. If you could have that to us by Friday it would be great. I'd get to work though, your students are hungry for information.

all was lost at "well written"

cantthinkofanything
05-28-2014, 04:21 PM
or maybe even "knowledge"

Avante
05-28-2014, 04:22 PM
And yours is being incredibly insecure

How does that happen on a messageboard?

Avante
05-28-2014, 04:23 PM
or maybe even "knowledge"

It's like this....he/she recorded them old blues I have it or know about it.

ohmwrecker
05-28-2014, 04:34 PM
But I could teach a class on the music...ok?

But you don't and nobody is asking either.