View Full Version : Numbersfire.com, Spurs have 1.6% less chance to win if Parker misses entire series
SpursFan4-Life
06-02-2014, 10:33 AM
Basically he's irrelevant, I say he hurts the spurs playing. Leonard and the entire team are significantly better with him on the bench
Kidd K
06-02-2014, 10:38 AM
Numbersfire is retarded then. We aren't beating LeBron and the Miami Heat without our best scorer, best playmaker, best ballhandler, best player.
spurspokesman
06-02-2014, 10:40 AM
Numbersfire is retarded then. We aren't beating LeBron and the Miami Heat without our best scorer, best playmaker, best ballhandler, best player.
spurspokesman
06-02-2014, 10:41 AM
parker places miami at a disadvantage with his penetration
Numbersfire is retarded then. We aren't beating LeBron and the Miami Heat without our best scorer, best playmaker, best ballhandler, best player.
We need parker to win the finals...
look_at_g_shred
06-02-2014, 11:22 AM
parker places miami at a disadvantage with his penetration
Brent Barry too.
Cry Havoc
06-02-2014, 11:32 AM
Basically he's irrelevant, I say he hurts the spurs playing. Leonard and the entire team are significantly better with him on the bench
Why are you posting here? You were convinced we were going to lose to OKC. Why are you still watching the NBA and still posting here?
DesignatedT
06-02-2014, 11:35 AM
Stupid stat. If anything he's a major distraction out there. Spurs can't win without him but they can win with him only being 75+ %. This is a much easier matchup for him defensively so I expect him to look better this series.
B-Hath
06-02-2014, 11:51 AM
Well done, sir.
Malik Hairston
06-02-2014, 11:56 AM
If Parker is healthy and playing at a good level, the Spurs should be 70-30 favorites to win the series IMO..
If he isn't, the Spurs are probably slight underdogs, 45-55..they could still win the series without Tony, he hasn't had a substantial impact on this year's team, but they would be slight underdogs..
The Spurs need him playing well, but not as the number 1 option, ball hogging. His 2007 Finals MVP is what changed everything, after he abused Daniel "Boobie" Gibson in the Finals while TD, the true MVP of the playoffs, sat back on offense while helping Bowen contain LBJ.
If that was Shaq sitting back and Kobe in his try hard mode dropping 40 a game on DBG winning Finals MVP Spur fan would be crying.
4 championships as TD's team, 0 as TP's. They nearly won it all last year with him playing like shit in the Finals, they're doing it again this year in these playoffs.
PG's don't win championships. It all comes down to size, they're simply too small to get their shot off. It took Kobe going into chuck mode in 04 for Billups to win one, and that horrible Cavs team for TP to win, before that you have to go back to '90. Put a shot blocker in the paint, stick a long defender (like LBJ) on them, and you force TP to beat you with tough jumpers and contested jumpers.
Leonard is a big reason why SA gets out to a fast start, that separation in the beginning is huge, they aren't ready for his energy, it allows SA to get out in transition and play as a team. They feed off his defense, KL often finds Verde at least 2x a game for 3, he helped revitalize his 3pt game. That is when they get wide open shots, easy shots, when they share the ball the most. That is when they win.
spurraider21
06-02-2014, 12:32 PM
This series is good on paper for Parker. If Diaw stays aggressive, Lebron wil be forced to guard him, letting TP go after Chalmers. If bosh is on Duncan, miami has nobody else that can check an aggressive Diaw unless they give haslem/Andersen minutes next to Bosh, which they hate doing
MannyIsGod
06-02-2014, 12:35 PM
Whatever the hell this analysis is based on, I'm going to bet that it has to do with inflated regular season numbers during the run where CoJo was a starter. I'm all for finding hidden gems within statistical analysis but this is just stupid. The Spurs will need Parker's experience and ball handling against a ball hawking Miami defense. They'll need someone capable of breaking Miami down because while Tim Duncan should have a great series I'm not so sure Manu will.
Beaverfuzz
06-02-2014, 01:01 PM
Miss the entire series? So if he plays one minute, that stat is meaningless?
Pauleta14
06-02-2014, 02:32 PM
Why are you posting here? You were convinced we were going to lose to OKC. Why are you still watching the NBA and still posting here?
SanDiegoSpursFan
06-02-2014, 02:42 PM
Parker isn't gonna be that bad against the Heat I don't think. I don't think Cole or Chalmers can abuse him like Jackson did.
J_Paco
06-02-2014, 02:50 PM
Numbersfire is retarded then. We aren't beating LeBron and the Miami Heat without our best scorer, best playmaker, best ballhandler, best player.
Exactly, and quoted for emphasis. Although, I disagree that Parker has been our best player this season. I think that distinction definitely belongs to Timmy at this point. That doesn't diminish the fact that the Spurs can't beat Miami without Tony's presence on offense. That would be asking too much of Ginobili, Mills and Joseph throughout a series against the best perimeter defense in the NBA.
Malik Hairston
06-12-2014, 09:12 PM
If Parker is healthy and playing at a good level, the Spurs should be 70-30 favorites to win the series IMO..
If he isn't, the Spurs are probably slight underdogs, 45-55..they could still win the series without Tony, he hasn't had a substantial impact on this year's team, but they would be slight underdogs..
Too easy..Spurs are a much superior team, they're the best team since the 80s, tbh..
Hemotivo
06-12-2014, 10:08 PM
best playmaker
nope; even Boris Diaw is better playmaker
Kidd K
06-12-2014, 10:18 PM
nope; even Boris Diaw is better playmaker
Boris is not a primary playmaker. He can make a nice play after someone else sets him up for it though, yes. Most of his assists come after he got a nice pass to put him in a triple threat position to shoot, drive, or pass. Parker is usually the one setting him up to be a playmaker, so you have to give the PG more credit for always handlign the ball and not just look at assists.
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