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Biernutz
06-04-2014, 12:50 AM
Adrian Wojnarowski reported today that the Rockets plan to decline Parsons option
for 14'-15'. They plan to offer him up for Melo, Love and even Dirk. Houston
has the hots to make a deal for a star to make 3 for the team....Linn will probably
be part of any package....

Chinook
06-04-2014, 01:11 AM
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If they're declining his option, then they can't package him in a deal.

TDMVPDPOY
06-04-2014, 01:13 AM
his not worth the contract he be asking for

his not the trade bait you should be dealing with

doesnt this clown have a bad back?

Biernutz
06-04-2014, 01:16 AM
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If...

If they're declining his option, then they can't package him in a deal.


The move would make Parsons a restricted free agent this off season.

Chinook
06-04-2014, 01:18 AM
The move would make Parsons a restricted free agent this off season.

Which doesn't make him anymore tradeable than if he were a UFA.

Biernutz
06-04-2014, 01:34 AM
The Rockets have till June 30 to pick up his option.. as restricted free agent they can match any offer or they can
sign and trade him..The Rockets want to deal and he is their best token....

Chinook
06-04-2014, 01:40 AM
The Rockets have till June 30 to pick up his option.. as restricted free agent they can match any offer or they can
sign and trade him..The Rockets want to deal and he is their best token....

RFA status doesn't affect a team's ability to sign-and-trade a player. Team can S&T UFA's as well, and they do so all the time. However, the Rockets can't S&T him to any teams that's projected to be over the apron. So that probably takes them out of the Melo sweepstakes unless Jackson makes some other moves. Also, now they have to worry about getting Chandler's consent in any trade.

It's not that declining the option prevents them from trading Parsons. It's just that it makes it harder. Houston is opting out either to let him go or to re-sign him long term while they still have control over him. They aren't doing it specifically to trade him.

Biernutz
06-04-2014, 01:45 AM
RFA status doesn't affect a team's ability to sign-and-trade a player. Team can S&T UFA's as well, and they do so all the time. However, the Rockets can't S&T him to any teams that's projected to be over the apron. So that probably takes them out of the Melo sweepstakes unless Jackson makes some other moves. Also, now they have to worry about getting Chandler's consent in any trade.

It's not that declining the option prevents them from trading Parsons. It's just that it makes it harder. Houston is opting out either to let him go or to re-sign him long term while they still have control over him. They aren't doing it specifically to trade him.


Who would you offer up for Mello or Love? Who on the Rockets has the most upside than Chandler?

Chinook
06-04-2014, 01:48 AM
Who would you offer up for Mello or Love? Who on the Rockets has the most upside than Chandler?

They should offer Chander, Jones and what ever they can get for Asik. No one's debating that Parsons is Houston's best asset. The critique comes more from the fact that declining Parsons' option implies that he's NOT on the block, not that he's more likely to be traded.

Biernutz
06-04-2014, 01:57 AM
They should offer Chander, Jones and what ever they can get for Asik. No one's debating that Parsons is Houston's best asset. The critique comes more from the fact that declining Parsons' option implies that he's NOT on the block, not that he's more likely to be traded.

I would bet that any trade for top star that GM Morley, he feels the Rockets need to get
over the hump, Parsons will be part of that deal......

I understand what you mean by my thread name "trade bait" ...but if the Rockets wanted Parsons around
they would pick up his option now or offer him a long term with wheelbarrow of cash to stay..

MarioSpeedwagon
06-04-2014, 04:02 AM
Can you imagine melo and harden on the wings together? they'd score 60 and give up 75 lmao

jimbo
06-04-2014, 04:04 AM
Which doesn't make him anymore tradeable than if he were a UFA.

Am I missing something?

This guarantees the team he's traded to that he'll be signed for a multi year deal so it won't be a one year rental. (And i thought they were kinda low on salary with players they can actually trade. Like the position the Heat were in when they first put together their Big 3. They have Lin, Asik, and a bunch of minimum contracts. Hard to get the numbers to match up like that)

MarioSpeedwagon
06-04-2014, 04:05 AM
It would be so awesome if Beverley tears an acl or something then their starting perimeter defense would be Lin, harden, and melo. WNBA teams could put up 100 against that

Chinook
06-04-2014, 04:38 AM
Am I missing something?

This guarantees the team he's traded to that he'll be signed for a multi year deal so it won't be a one year rental. (And i thought they were kinda low on salary with players they can actually trade. Like the position the Heat were in when they first put together their Big 3. They have Lin, Asik, and a bunch of minimum contracts. Hard to get the numbers to match up like that)

Both restricted and unrestricted free agents can be signed-and-traded. It doesn't help Houston trade Parsons by making him an RFA. Also, they could always agree to an extend-and-trade if teams want him on a longer deal.

It's relatively easy for them to match salaries for Love without S&Ting Parsons. It'll be pretty hard for them to acquire Anthony using a Parsons S&T as salary ballast, because teams over the apron cannot take back S&T'd players. Meaning the Knicks would need to find a way to shed a lot of salary from other trades.

Baam
06-04-2014, 04:47 AM
Not sure what the plan is but wouldn't be surprised by anything, it's pretty clear now that Morey is even more of a degenerate gambler than Jordan...

Wouldn't put it past him to try to flip Harden for Love + picks or something and then try to use the picks on something else :lol.

The Batman
06-04-2014, 06:43 AM
In one scenario, Houston could secure three max-out players – including Howard, Harden and a potential star free agent – and then re-sign Parsons to an extension below the max-level range. Parsons could command in the $12 million to $13 million annual range, league executives tell Yahoo Sports.

Biernutz
06-04-2014, 07:55 AM
Another thread was started on the same report before this one ....see ElNono's

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234476&p=7386834#post7386834

jimbo
06-04-2014, 11:44 AM
Both restricted and unrestricted free agents can be signed-and-traded. It doesn't help Houston trade Parsons by making him an RFA. Also, they could always agree to an extend-and-trade if teams want him on a longer deal.

It's relatively easy for them to match salaries for Love without S&Ting Parsons. It'll be pretty hard for them to acquire Anthony using a Parsons S&T as salary ballast, because teams over the apron cannot take back S&T'd players. Meaning the Knicks would need to find a way to shed a lot of salary from other trades.

I was just thinking along the lines of him just saying "I don't want to play in Minnesota." As a UFA he has a say in the deal, as a RFA he doesn't.

But apparently you can't do a sign and trade with a RFA who's signed an offer sheet , so that'll potentially make it a lot harder to get him to do a S&T.

Franklin
06-04-2014, 04:31 PM
Sign T-Mac and Yao back and they have four superstars on court immediately.