Most Overrated Military Battles/Operations of All Time

[Infinite_limit]

Which do you seem to always hear about but have come to the realization that it is for self-pride or propaganda reasons. Instead of actual influence on the overall War or History in general?


I'll start. D-Day in WW2.

[JoeTait75]

Gettysburg. The Vicksburg Campaign, which went on at the same time, was far more pivotal to the outcome of the Civil War, imo.

[Brazil]

how in hell D Day is overrated ? :lmao

[Infinite_limit]

how in hell D Day is overrated ? :lmao
Changed very little in the War. Germany was already defeated and retreating.

[Brazil]

Changed very little in the War. Germany was already defeated and retreating.

you need to expand on dat one tbh

[Infinite_limit]

you need to expand on dat one tbh
Without D-Day, nothing changes. Soviet Union controls more nations during the Cold War but D-Day did nothing in terms of WW2. In essence the fate of WW2 was decided before D-day occurred.

D-Day is used by Western Nations to discredit the Soviets defeating the Nazis

[Brazil]

Without D-Day, nothing changes. Soviet Union controls more nations during the Cold War but D-Day did nothing in terms of WW2. In essence the fate of WW2 was decided before D-day occurred.

D-Day is used by Western Nations to discredit the Soviets defeating the Nazis

D Day was key to open a new front. The fact this enables also to counter the soviet push is quite relevant nonetheless. your example of an overrated battle sucks

[CitizenDwayne]

This topic is kinda retarded.

Not to mention offensive to the lives lost in the aforementioned "overrated" battles.

That being said, I'd go with the Siege of Baghdad

[Franklin]

Agree, the allies only fought German kids on the western front (if it could be called a front legitimately) and still almost got their asses kicked.

[CosmicCowboy]

Patton was right. Should have continued and kicked the Russians asses just because we could while we had all the assets in place. That would have been a historic game changer.

[The Reckoning]

the alamo

[TDMVPDPOY]

the vn war by the southern dogs regime backed by america, those same fkn dogs invited yanks into the country to drop bombs out in t he middle of nowhere for fun instead of trying to win the war, then these politicians all go run and hide in the states and talk/preach about commies when these fkn turds are just as corrupted as those commies who learnt wealth creation by corruption, the same fkn dogs exiled in america who continue to brainwashed later generations of commie hate, only too see them return to the motherland sucking commie cock money cause of the new open economy where money is to be made....

these clowns are sellouts, no wonder why there is a conflict of interests between supporters of the old regime and later generations who had nothing to do with politics, who stop buying into BS propaganda...whats funni is these fkn turds are trying to control how expats should live their lives...

[Venti Quattro]

Battle of Mogadishu. It gamed fame because American forces were stupid to get caught in that fight

[m>s]

D Day was key to open a new front. The fact this enables also to counter the soviet push is quite relevant nonetheless. your example of an overrated battle sucks
You're from France everything you've been taught is a lie. Dday was fought against 15 year old hitler youth while the soviets had already defeated the Germans on the eastern front where the real battle was waged. Lend lease was far more pivotal than d-day.

[Brazil]

You're from France everything you've been taught is a lie. Dday was fought against 15 year old hitler youth while the soviets had already defeated the Germans on the eastern front where the real battle was waged. Lend lease was far more pivotal than d-day.

:lol you have no clue about of what you are talking about

i bet you never put a feet in Europe in your life

sieg heil motherfucker

[TDMVPDPOY]

the tet offensive

a couple of years ago i was in vietnam and visited the cu chi tunnels and sat through its exhibition, listening to the mutt talk about the 3 day offensive starving and no sleep to fight that battle.....i was going to argue back with the guy who was giving the talk what a load of bullshit going through 3 days of no food and sleep fighting...u lucky the yanks pulled out when all they had to do was fight it for a week and it was over...just fail on many levels that war

another battle is vietnamese uprising against the french faggots, certainly the faggots had to pull out all its personel due to ww2...they didnt even do shit or put up a fight in french indochina, which allowed the wankers to not only kick out the faggots but take laos and cambodia to become commie puppet states....they celebrate it like its a big achievement kicking out the french in asia, those clowns did jackshit

[Infinite_limit]

:lol you have no clue about of what you are talking about

i bet you never put a feet in Europe in your life

sieg heil motherfucker
He's right. Soviets were already marching to Berlin when the 2nd Front was opened.

D-Day: June 6th 1944
End of Battle of Stalingrad: February 2nd 1943

"By July 14 [1943], Germany was in retreat"

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Catalaunian Plains (or Chalons). Romans and Visigoths didn't cripple the Huns. Attila could've walked into Rome later, but he had a bizarre decision in sparing the Pope. Could've come back later, but TOSB died. And if he did return to invade Italy, the Western Roman Empire was already crumbling, it was just a matter of time. Instead of Vandalism, today we would say Hunnism.

Spanish Armada. Spain didn't have a standing army back then; landing, conquering and pacifying Britain would've been impossible. They couldn't even hold the Netherlands for long.

Trafalgar is very similar. Had the British lost, they would've fallen back to their ports, build up their navy in industrial speed and keep ruling the seas.

Cannae. Hannibal was a master tactician, as a terrible strategist. Couldn't siege any major Roman city, wandered about the Italian peninsula and had to flee back to Carthage where he was defeated.

Waterloo. France had no hope of coming out victorious even if this battle had ended in a decisive victory for them. Most of Europe was allied against them, they were in shambles after so many years of war and their economy couldn't support another conflict in the continent. As long as Napoleon was in charge, the Seventh Coalition would fight him.

Fall of Constantinople. Byzantines were gone the moment they fought over and over again with Sassanids. The fact that they endured for so long afterwards is remarkable. But once they lost Egypt, the Levant and Anatolia, they had no chance to survive the Ottoman Expansion.

[DD]

Balaclava in the Crimean War, mostly for the Charge of the Light Brigade. Siege/Battle of Sevastopol was much more important

[DD]

the tet offensive

a couple of years ago i was in vietnam and visited the cu chi tunnels and sat through its exhibition, listening to the mutt talk about the 3 day offensive starving and no sleep to fight that battle.....i was going to argue back with the guy who was giving the talk what a load of bullshit going through 3 days of no food and sleep fighting...u lucky the yanks pulled out when all they had to do was fight it for a week and it was over...just fail on many levels that war

another battle is vietnamese uprising against the french faggots, certainly the faggots had to pull out all its personel due to ww2...they didnt even do shit or put up a fight in french indochina, which allowed the wankers to not only kick out the faggots but take laos and cambodia to become commie puppet states....they celebrate it like its a big achievement kicking out the french in asia, those clowns did jackshit
Tet Offensive--from a tactical standpoint--yielded very few, if any tangible gains (not to mention wiping out the VC as a fighting force), but psychologically it was not overrated at all. Pretty much the point when it was solidified that the North would never quit.

[Franklin]

Patton was right. Should have continued and kicked the Russians asses just because we could while we had all the assets in place. That would have been a historic game changer.
You could only beat Russia by nukes which they didn't have yet, but I'm not sure how you could deliver the bombs over their heads when Russia had the world's strongest air force at that time and there weren't ballistic missiles yet.

[jeebus]

the US in the Meuse-Argonne Offensive; basically just Britain and France throwing the US a bone and they still do a shitty job. Yet I remember in history class, they tell us that that battle was the reason why we won the war. :lol

[DD]

US was still good though, especially at Belleau Wood. France was an embarrassment for the entire war.

[baseline bum]

Patton was right. Should have continued and kicked the Russians asses just because we could while we had all the assets in place. That would have been a historic game changer.

It didn't work in 1918 when they were in the middle of a civil war and fast forward to 45 and we're taking the army that survived Stalingrad and Leningrad and destroyed the meat of the Wehrmacht? Not seeing it. Would have been some dirty shit turning on the ally that won you the war too.

[JoeTait75]

the US in the Meuse-Argonne Offensive; basically just Britain and France throwing the US a bone and they still do a shitty job. Yet I remember in history class, they tell us that that battle was the reason why we won the war. :lol


IMO the threat of American power more than the reality of it was a deciding factor. The Germans shot their wad with Ludendorff's offensives in the spring of 1918.

[jeebus]

IMO the threat of American power more than the reality of it was a deciding factor. The Germans shot their wad with Ludendorff's offensives in the spring of 1918.

Truth. In the fall of 1918, the Imperial Navy was on the verge of mutiny and supplies for ze Germans were pretty much at nil, not to mention the revolution going on. Just the fact that US troops were arriving at thousands per day probably would've been enough to stop the war. But Pershing had to have his glory. Meh.

[TheyCallMePro]

Gotta be D-Day. Seriously only 4,000 deaths on the Allied side. 4,000 on the German side. I mean you look at the same War, in the battle of Kursk, where the Soviet Union lost 250,000 and the Germans lost 200,000 in just 3 days of fighting....and yeah.

[Koolaid_Man]

Which do you seem to always hear about but have come to the realization that it is for self-pride or propaganda reasons. Instead of actual influence on the overall War or History in general?


I'll start. D-Day in WW2.



when I accidentally shot my fellow half-pint soldier M>S in the back of the head in Call of Duty. :lol

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[Katherine Robinson]

It didn't work in 1918 when they were in the middle of a civil war and fast forward to 45 and we're taking the army that survived Stalingrad and Leningrad and destroyed the meat of the Wehrmacht? Not seeing it. Would have been some dirty shit turning on the ally that won you the war too.

The soviet military was beaten down at that point, it's not like their power remained static after finally taking Berlin. They didn't have the ability to wage war again, but the US did since it was involved fairly late in the campaign. They can keep churning out tanks, but they'll end up making women & children drive them.

[DMC]

Battle of Mogadishu. It gamed fame because American forces were stupid to get caught in that fight
Because Les Ass-Pin was stupid and put Rangers, Delta and SOAR in a bad spot for political reasons. Nothing to do with American forces. Regardless unless you've been involved with it yourself, every war is overrated if it doesn't play well on a video game.

[xmas1997]

What REALLY happened to Glenn Miller? :hat

[xmas1997]

the alamo

You got to be kidding.
It was one of the greatest sacrifices in the world!