Danny Crawford, James Capers, Jason Phillips, Ed Malloy (alternate) are refs tonight

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Miami has a 7-1 playoff record with Capers, 13-3 playoff record with Dan Crawford, and a 9-2 record in the playoffs with Jason Phillips since the Big 3 era began.

[justinandimcool]

Dan Crawford sucks but man oh man is James Capers an underrated shitty ref. Hopefully they're shitty in the Spurs favor tbh.

[TheGreatYacht]

YOU DONT WANT DANNY CRAWFORD AT HOME NOOOOO WTF

And James Capers got shitted on by every Spurs fan last month (Not sure if against Dallas?)

looks like spurs have to win on the road now, tbh

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Miami has a 7-1 playoff record with Capers, 13-3 playoff record with Dan Crawford, and a 9-2 record in the playoffs with Jason Phillips since the Big 3 era began.

What's San Antonio's record with those guys? I mean if San Antonio has an 8-0 playoff record with Capers, 12-1 record with Crawford, and 7-3 record with Phillips (for example) then we've learned nothing.

[313]

Welp we might as well not even show up :rolleyes

[baseline bum]

Still pissed at Crawford for almost costing the Spurs Game 6 in OKC with his BS no-call on Ibaka's obvious goaltend.

[stnick2261]

Danny Crawford is fine at home... it is Joey Crawford you don't want at home.
Danny Crawford calls in favor of the losing team to keep games close. He also favors stars (ie. LeBron). James Capers is good, but he gets caught up in the home crowd which is good for us tonight. I don't know much about Phillips other than his home record is about league average so there doesn't seem to be a bias.

[T Park]

Danny Crawford is a good one. Joey for game 3 or 4 would be ideal.

[bklynspursfan]

Didn't we end some streak of okc's when they had some really good record at home with a certain official? If we play out best , we can overcome it.

[FromWayDowntown]

With this assignment, I think Joey & Duke Callahan have one of the games in Miami and McCutchen and Brothers have the other; my guess would be that they have the games in that order.

[mavsfan1000]

All the refs favor Miami. Hype equals calls.

[PublicOption]

Danny doesn't let one team or another get a big lead. I don't now how he does it, but most of his games are tight.

[marinoman]

Remember how Thunder we 12-0 with Tony Brothers. After the Spurs the Thunder were 12-1
What Im sayin is all the refs suck so STFU and have some faith goddammit. This has become the discussion every fuckin game. Home cookin usually dictates how the refs act, remember that

[houston spurs fan]

Danny Crawford is fine at home... it is Joey Crawford you don't want at home.
Danny Crawford calls in favor of the losing team to keep games close. He also favors stars (ie. LeBron). James Capers is good, but he gets caught up in the home crowd which is good for us tonight. I don't know much about Phillips other than his home record is about league average so there doesn't seem to be a bias.
+1. We want Joey in Miami

[Mal]

Best refs is alternate....

[703 Spurz]

Miami has a 7-1 playoff record with Capers, 13-3 playoff record with Dan Crawford, and a 9-2 record in the playoffs with Jason Phillips since the Big 3 era began.

Winning the title back to back will allow you to have good records with almost all refs. It's no biggie.

[Andthentherewas21]

Anyone else concerned that the refs will give Lebron a bunch of early calls just because the media has been hyping that he will have a "revenge" game? I just get the feeling its going to be a self-fulfilling prophecy with the refs expecting him to have a big game so anytime he misses or bulls over a defender he is going to get the call.

[EVAY]

. it is Joey Crawford you don't want at home.
Danny Crawford calls in favor of the losing team to keep games close. He also favors stars (ie. LeBron). James Capers is good, but he gets caught up in the home crowd which is good for us tonight. I don't know much about Phillips other than his home record is about league average so there doesn't seem to be a bias.

This

[DarrinS]

Not really worried about refs in this series

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Danny doesn't let one team or another get a big lead. I don't now how he does it, but most of his games are tight.

Like when he Reffed Game 3 of the Finals last year and we beat the Heat by 40 hahahaha

Note, he also reffed game 7

[Chris]

Not really worried about refs in this series

http://img.pandawhale.com/73807-yoda-you-will-be-gif-Imgur-S5dH.gif

[Chris]

The refs are fucking terrible

[hsxvvd]

Fuck em all so far.

They better watch the reply at the half and even up the bullshit calls.

[RD2191]

:lol

[4001 STEREO SPUR]

Yeah. They suck!!!!!!

[TheGreatYacht]

And here y'all idiots were talking about "these are the refs you want if you're at home"

GTFO :lmao

[TE]

rofl I don't even have to say anything...everything's been said tbh. These refs are out for an agenda

[mavsfan1000]

These are fair refs. They call it like it is.

[RD2191]

And here y'all idiots were talking about "these are the refs you want if you're at home"

GTFO :lmao

[TE]

These are fair refs. They call it like it is.
Oh shut the fuck up

[mavsfan1000]

Duncan got cleanly stripped and than started chasing the ref. He got what he deserved.

[mavsfan1000]

And that Leonard flop was quite funny.

[baseline bum]

Danny Crawford is a good one.

Good call

[TheGreatYacht]

And that Leonard flop was quite funny.
Dirk doesn't play defense. Not a Top 25 PF in my book

[cjw]

Dirk doesn't play defense. Not a Top 25 PF in my book

I hope you mean player and not PF. Surely he's better than Pau, Sheed and LJ (and guys like that).

[bklynspursfan]

Give them credit, they're out there executing their game plan to a T. Spurs Level Execution

[Rummpd]

These refs suck bigtime

[mavsfan1000]

Good game. It was a team effort. :)

[Spurs 4 The Win]

REFS COMPLETELY FUCKED US, KAWHI CANT BREATHE WITHOUT A FOUL, THEY MAUL US ON DEFENSE, NO CALLS, FUCKING BULLSHIT

[TheGreatYacht]

REFS COMPLETELY FUCKED US, KAWHI CANT BREATHE WITHOUT A FOUL, THEY MAUL US ON DEFENSE, NO CALLS, FUCKING BULLSHIT
That 3rd quarter when Manu, Kawhi, and Green had 4 fouls >>>>

also the same time Lebron killed us. What a coincidence

[Spurs 4 The Win]

That 3rd quarter when Manu, Kawhi, and Green had 4 fouls >>>>

also the same time Lebron killed us. What a coincidence
Serious question, has Leonard actually committed a REAL FOUL all series???? He got a bogus offensive foul when he got blown up by Lewis and then got called for touch fouls all fuckin night, FUCKIN GARBAGE

[TheGreatYacht]

Serious question, has Leonard actually committed a REAL FOUL all series???? He got a bogus offensive foul when he got blown up by Lewis and then got called for touch fouls all fuckin night, FUCKIN GARBAGE
Leonard needs to get his first career technical... Enough of the statue stuff, refs ain't going to respect him unless he does something about it

[crc21209]

Capers clearly has a hard-on for James and Wade. He was the most obvious guy tonight who was pro-Heat...

[HI-FI]

Capers clearly has a hard-on for James and Wade. He was the most obvious guy tonight who was pro-Heat...
was that no.23? He seemed to be the most biased and inconsistent. probably got the Donaghy assignment for this one.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Jason phillips is a terrible ref.

[crc21209]

was that no.23? He seemed to be the most biased and inconsistent. probably got the Donaghy assignment for this one.

Not sure what # he was. He was the black guy, besides Danny Crawford. Phillips was pretty terrible as well, he's the one who fell for Wade throwing his head back like he had been shot..

[Spurs 4 The Win]

I LIKE HOW THEY GIVE WADE A FLOP HEAD WHIP CALL AND THEN MANU ACTUALLY GETS HIT IN CRUNCH TIME AND GUESS THE FUCK WHAT........... NO CALL, IM FUCKING SHOCKED

[mavsfan1000]

The refs did their job. We're going 7 if the refs play it right.

[TheGreatYacht]

was that no.23? He seemed to be the most biased and inconsistent. probably got the Donaghy assignment for this one.
He was #23. White, gray haired, chins

[TampaDude]

The refs did their job. We're going 7 if the refs play it right.

A long $erie$ is what the NBA wants, so a long $erie$ they will get.

[DarrinS]

Well, it appears there were numerous blown calls. Some went our way, too, but couldn't hit fuckin FT.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Well, it appears there were numerous blown calls. Some went our way, too, but couldn't hit fuckin FT.

We got one call the whole night,that game was some serious fuckin bullshit, Leonard, Green, Manu, all got bogus fouls in the 2nd and had to sit.... AND GUESS WHAT FUCKIN HAPPENS... We play like shit offensively in the 2nd quarter and shock of all shocks, LeBron goes off in the 3rd cuz Leonard is out after getting called for grazing a thread on LeBrons jersey with his fignertip, ITS FUCKING BULLSHIT AND IT WAS OBVIOUS AS FUCK, FUCKING WWE LEVEL SHIT TONIGHT, RI-FUCKING-DICULOUS

[russellgoat]

THE FUCKING MAVERICKS SHOULD BE IN THE FINALS RIGHT NOW IF THE FUCKING REFS DIDN'T RIGGED THE WEST SO THAT THE FAKE HUMBLE GUYS CAN WIN

[dbestpro]

Games like tonight just shows that the game has moved beyond the their ability to do their jobs without influencing the game. It's not a conspiracy. It's just human error in the NBA can have such a profound affect.

[TheGreatYacht]

Games like tonight just shows that the game has moved beyond the their ability to do their jobs without influencing the game. It's not a conspiracy. It's just human error in the NBA can have such a profound affect.
Na man. These human "errors" have cost the Spurs too many damn series... When was the last time Spurs got the better end of a fucked up controversial call?

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Na man. These human "errors" have cost the Spurs too many damn series... When was the last time Spurs got the better end of a fucked up controversial call?

Typically the NBA is guided to get a high quality series, they wont blatantly rig a series for the most part, although it has happened, they usually just amke sure its 2-2 after 4 and let the teams duke it out with more fair reffing in the final 3.

Makes sense from a business standpoint and at the end of the day, this is a dream matchup for the NBA with the revenge and 3 peat storylines and they are already getting tons of drama with the AC and cramping thing, this is going 7, and i predict MONSTER ratings

[Sean Cagney]

THE FUCKING MAVERICKS SHOULD BE IN THE FINALS RIGHT NOW IF THE FUCKING REFS DIDN'T RIGGED THE WEST SO THAT THE FAKE HUMBLE GUYS CAN WIN

What the living shit are you babbling about?????????????

[TheGreatYacht]

Typically the NBA is guided to get a high quality series, they wont blatantly rig a series for the most part, although it has happened, they usually just amke sure its 2-2 after 4 and let the teams duke it out with more fair reffing in the final 3.

Makes sense from a business standpoint and at the end of the day, this is a dream matchup for the NBA with the revenge and 3 peat storylines and they are already getting tons of drama with the AC and cramping thing, this is going 7, and i predict MONSTER ratings
You could be right... MIA was up 3-1 on Indy and Game 5 was the game Lebron was in foul trouble all game

but would the league risk a Heat 3peat for ratings? Adam Silver knows if LBJ loses one more finals he'll never be in the GOAT discussion.

Spurs ain't getting ref help these next 2 games. Why? Bill Kennedy, Ed Malloy, and Tony Brothers have yet to make an appearance

[lmbebo]

Worst officiated game all playoffs that I've seen.

Flopping by Wade and Chalmers was sickening. some of the awful momentum swinging foul calls on Manu, Kwahi and Green. I see 1 or 2 calls, but every call went Miami's way.

Fucking bullshit.

[Ibleedslvrnblk]

Reffing has killed this league period. It works out in the end for all teams getting the royal treatment at some point but that is what ruins it. Seems scripted...

[Jimcs50]

Worst officiating of playoffs thus far.

[mavsfan1000]

Worst officiating of playoffs thus far.
Wait till they get in Miami. If you are angry now, you will see major homecooking.

[SouthernFried]

Nobody is allowed to Defend LeBron. If you do, they will call fouls on you. Both games Leonard has been in foul trouble defending LeBron.

I dunno how the Spurs are going to deal with it. But, that's the reality.

[TE]

Worst officiating of playoffs thus far.
Talking to a few die hard Laker fans myself, they also saw the atrocious inconsistent officiating. What's bad about it is the timing of these calls/no-calls, these bad calls always end up fueling a team's run or disrupting the opposing team's rhythm. These calls also go against our perimeter defenders who are our only shot in slowing down the Heat's perimeter game.

And this was in San Antonio! rofl the Spurs are gonna get dicked by the officiating once again.

[Beaverfuzz]

Refs didn't cause the missed free throws, the lack of offensive rebounding down the stretch, and a few key turnovers.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Refs didn't cause the missed free throws, the lack of offensive rebounding down the stretch, and a few key turnovers.

But they put us in position for those mistakes to matter (and allowed Miami to over the back us on every play), thats what people like you dont get, you can point to us doing somthing wrong cuz nobody is ever going to be perfect down the stretch but the fact of the matter is, we shouldve been up by 10 if the reffing was fair and your point would be moot

[Strategic]

The three early fouls on Leonard and Green put Spurs defense on their heels early.

[romsho]

But they put us in position for those mistakes to matter (and allowed Miami to over the back us on every play), thats what people like you dont get, you can point to us doing somthing wrong cuz nobody is ever going to be perfect down the stretch but the fact of the matter is, we shouldve been up by 10 if the reffing was fair and your point would be moot

Exactly. The term isn't fixed, or rigged, but more controlled. The officials don't hand Miami a win, but they do control the conditions and the way the game is played. Putting the Spurs best 3 perimeter defenders in Leonard, Green and Manu in early foul trouble is an optimum environment for Miami to have an opportunity to win. The fact that the Spurs could have and probably should have been able to overcome that is irrelevant. That it requires them overcoming said conditions is ridiculous. Unfortunately it's not only happened countless times before and will again, but is completely obvious and predictable. If the Spurs are going to win this series, they will need to win the games decisively. Or bullshit will happen.

[Beaverfuzz]

But they put us in position for those mistakes to matter (and allowed Miami to over the back us on every play), thats what people like you dont get, you can point to us doing somthing wrong cuz nobody is ever going to be perfect down the stretch but the fact of the matter is, we shouldve been up by 10 if the reffing was fair and your point would be moot

They put us in position for those mistakes to matter. Ok dude. :downspin:

[Beaverfuzz]

Exactly. The term isn't fixed, or rigged, but more controlled. The officials don't hand Miami a win, but they do control the conditions and the way the game is played. Putting the Spurs best 3 perimeter defenders in Leonard, Green and Manu in early foul trouble is an optimum environment for Miami to have an opportunity to win. The fact that the Spurs could have and probably should have been able to overcome that is irrelevant. That it requires them overcoming said conditions is ridiculous. Unfortunately it's not only happened countless times before and will again, but is completely obvious and predictable. If the Spurs are going to win this series, they will need to win the games decisively. Or bullshit will happen.


So Miami isn't allowed to game plan to take out Green and Leonard quickly by attacking the basket to start the game off? No one is forcing anyone to foul anyone else (unless you're Supernintendo Chalmers).

[Spurs 4 The Win]

So Miami isn't allowed to game plan to take out Green and Leonard quickly by attacking the basket to start the game off? No one is forcing anyone to foul anyone else (unless you're Supernintendo Chalmers).

Lol, you didn't watch the game or you would know that those fouls were soft as shit, Leonard doesn't have foul trouble all year and has it two straight games, uh huh, yup reffing shouldn't be questioned, nothing fishy at all

Tim actually stopped himself from saying the officiating on Leonard was pure trash in his post game interview, it was that bad, he clearly was not pleased with the calls on him or Leonard

[tholdren]

Exactly. The term isn't fixed, or rigged, but more controlled. The officials don't hand Miami a win, but they do control the conditions and the way the game is played. Putting the Spurs best 3 perimeter defenders in Leonard, Green and Manu in early foul trouble is an optimum environment for Miami to have an opportunity to win. The fact that the Spurs could have and probably should have been able to overcome that is irrelevant. That it requires them overcoming said conditions is ridiculous. Unfortunately it's not only happened countless times before and will again, but is completely obvious and predictable. If the Spurs are going to win this series, they will need to win the games decisively. Or bullshit will happen.

But that's why you need the nasty player who fouls and fouls hard. Lebron and wade want no part of contact, none of the heat players do. You need an enforcer. Blair would have done it. Tiago wont. Green wont. Kawhi wont. That's why none of these guys are ELITE. defensively you have to have an attitude or an edge that intimidates others. No one is intimidated by the weak 3 listed above. In-fact you see more AND ONES from those three than you do HARD FOULS.

Time for Baynes

I'll do it for 500k a year. Splitter wont for 9mil a year. That is why he sucks.

[romsho]

Lol, you didn't watch the game or you would know that those fouls were soft as shit, Leonard doesn't have foul trouble all year and has it two straight games, uh huh, yup reffing shouldn't be questioned, nothing fishy at all

Tim actually stopped himself from saying the officiating on Leonard was pure trash in his post game interview, it was that bad, he clearly was not pleased with the calls on him or Leonard

What was the best way to make the Miami/Indiana series go six games...perhaps 5 fouls on LeBron and 24 minutes played in GM 5? Nah...the refs have no control. Its totally legit.

[Beaverfuzz]

Lol, you didn't watch the game or you would know that those fouls were soft as shit, Leonard doesn't have foul trouble all year and has it two straight games, uh huh, yup reffing shouldn't be questioned, nothing fishy at all

Tim actually stopped himself from saying the officiating on Leonard was pure trash in his post game interview, it was that bad, he clearly was not pleased with the calls on him or Leonard

You do know that if you constantly drive at someone, you'll get the call more often than not right? Doesn't matter if it's a soft as shit foul. Does anyone not remember Montae a few series ago? Same exact problem and hole in the Spurs defense!

[lefty]

Only P&A's blame the officiating

[HI-FI]

Only P&A's blame the officiating
you're quoting an old fart who jumped on the Lakers bandwagon precisely because things were tilted in their favor.

[romsho]

Only P&A's blame the officiating

If you want to blindly ignore that it has an impact on the game, that's on you. Its not THE reason they lost, but it affected it. Don't try to sell that it didn't.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

You do know that if you constantly drive at someone, you'll get the call more often than not right? Doesn't matter if it's a soft as shit foul. Does anyone not remember Montae a few series ago? Same exact problem and hole in the Spurs defense!

3 of Kawhi's 6 fouls were utter trash, one was a foul on Lewis that called a charge.... one was a touch foul where he didnt even touch Lebron, and the sixth foul in the final minute was a travel and out of control drive by James that got called a foul when Kawhi didnt touch him, Miami lead stretched to 3, Kawhi fouled out, game over

[spurraider21]

You could be right... MIA was up 3-1 on Indy and Game 5 was the game Lebron was in foul trouble all game

but would the league risk a Heat 3peat for ratings? Adam Silver knows if LBJ loses one more finals he'll never be in the GOAT discussion.

Spurs ain't getting ref help these next 2 games. Why? Bill Kennedy, Ed Malloy, and Tony Brothers have yet to make an appearance
spurs won in okc with brothers. quit making excuses before the games even start

[sammy]

Refs didn't cause the missed free throws, the lack of offensive rebounding down the stretch, and a few key turnovers.

They sure took out our best defender on Lebroom to give that bitch easy way to score! Those fuck refs sucked big time! No way would the spurs lose if Kawhi wasn't in foul trouble! Rigged big time!

[HI-FI]

What was the best way to make the Miami/Indiana series go six games...perhaps 5 fouls on LeBron and 24 minutes played in GM 5? Nah...the refs have no control. Its totally legit.
:lol
surprised more people don't bring that up. that was the most obvious example of the league extending a series in awhile. normally Lebron is allowed to play very physical D, then they suddenly call him for it to make it 6 games.

same with last night, call a bunch of ticky tack on our best defenders, enter Belinelli, and you added even more uncertainty and drama to the proceedings.

[Aztecfan03]

They put us in position for those mistakes to matter. Ok dude. :downspin:

you are an idiot.

[tlongII]

The officiating was relatively even. 21 FT's for Miami, 20 for the Spurs. Both teams called for 20 fouls. You better come up with a better excuse.

[TheGreatYacht]

The officiating was relatively even. 21 FT's for Miami, 20 for the Spurs. Both teams called for 20 fouls. You better come up with a better excuse.
Excuse? It ain't no excuse. Refs just gave those fuckers ghost calls, ticky tack fouls, and fell for flops... On the other side, Heat were playing as physical as they wanted

KAWHI NEVER FOULED OUT OF A GAME IN HIS CAREER!!! And Manu+Green were in foul trouble all game, leading to Bellineli's ass getting 25+ minutes

[heyheymymy]

scumbag refs

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/b8/b8cd2b91ed03611dfc0789ea8ecb83ddaa4c48d04986ef7b47 f8a159c1073af7.jpg

[romsho]

The officiating was relatively even. 21 FT's for Miami, 20 for the Spurs. Both teams called for 20 fouls. You better come up with a better excuse.

You're not that ignorant. You just like to act like you are. Its when they're called and who they're called on that matters. Adding them up at the end to see if it's a match is stupid. Try again.

[mavsfan1000]

You're not that ignorant. You just like to act like you are. Its when they're called and who they're called on that matters. Adding them up at the end to see if it's a match is stupid. Try again.
Except some of those were bad in favor of the Spurs as well. You just remember the ones against the Spurs as most homers do.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Only P&A's blame the officiating

What ever happened to that jabroni?

[romsho]

Except some of those were bad in favor of the Spurs as well. You just remember the ones against the Spurs as most homers do.

The Spurs best 3 perimeter defenders were in foul trouble for most of the game. A bad call here or there does not concern me. Impacting a teams aggressiveness and ability to defend does. I saw it happen in to Miami in GM 5 of their series against Indiana. Is that homerism? Pay attention.

[mavsfan1000]

The Spurs best 3 perimeter defenders were in foul trouble for most of the game. A bad call here or there does not concern me. Impacting a teams aggressiveness and ability to defend does. I saw it happen in to Miami in GM 5 of their series against Indiana. Is that homerism? Pay attention.
Lebron and Wade are incredibly aggressive. You gotta guard knowing they are trying to get a foul on you.

[tholdren]

Except some of those were bad in favor of the Spurs as well. You just remember the ones against the Spurs as most homers do.
Like what? The Lebron tech? So what, didn't remotely change the course of the game like the Wade flop and foul on Gino, or his trash jump into a defender.

The Tim Tech was actually terrible as well, it gave Miami, I believe, their first lead of the night.

That flop totally changed momentum. We just regained the lead and were up 3. Manu sits we end the half tied. MOMENTUM Miami.

[EVAY]

Like what? The Lebron tech? So what, didn't remotely change the course of the game like the Wade flop and foul on Gino, or his trash jump into a defender.

The Tim Tech was actually terrible as well, it gave Miami, I believe, their first lead of the night.

That flop totally changed momentum. We just regained the lead and were up 3. Manu sits we end the half tied. MOMENTUM Miami.

This is indisputable, imo.

Jason Phillips was a wretched ref in that game, imo.

[mavsfan1000]

Like what? The Lebron tech? So what, didn't remotely change the course of the game like the Wade flop and foul on Gino, or his trash jump into a defender.

The Tim Tech was actually terrible as well, it gave Miami, I believe, their first lead of the night.

That flop totally changed momentum. We just regained the lead and were up 3. Manu sits we end the half tied. MOMENTUM Miami.
Not the refs fault Parker and Duncan couldn't make their free throws.

[Beaverfuzz]

you are an idiot.

And you're just quick to put the blame on everyone else but the Spurs themselves. :downspin:

[Beaverfuzz]

They sure took out our best defender on Lebroom to give that bitch easy way to score! Those fuck refs sucked big time! No way would the spurs lose if Kawhi wasn't in foul trouble! Rigged big time!

Play better defense, simple as that (well you could just let him go to the hoop every time and leave him alone).

[Beaverfuzz]

3 of Kawhi's 6 fouls were utter trash, one was a foul on Lewis that called a charge.... one was a touch foul where he didnt even touch Lebron, and the sixth foul in the final minute was a travel and out of control drive by James that got called a foul when Kawhi didnt touch him, Miami lead stretched to 3, Kawhi fouled out, game over

They may have been trash but Kiwi was put in that position. That still doesn't explain the lid on the basket on the other end.

[Shastafarian]

Not the refs fault Parker and Duncan couldn't make their free throws.

As much as it pains me to agree with a Mavs fan, this is where it is. The game changing moment came right after Duncan clanked his 2 FT. Go into their own heads it seemed. That being said the officiating has been terrible in the playoffs. Everyone sees it. The NBA has maybe 3-4 quality refs and the rest are shit.

[tlongII]

Not the refs fault Parker and Duncan couldn't make their free throws.

Bingo. This is where the game turned.