Kori, LJ... SpursTalk has gone down the proverbial toilet.

[TheWriter]

As some one who has been here since nearly the beginning, I am absolutely saddened at what this site has become. I know you guys have had the policy of limited moderation since the beginning but because of that policy, the inmates now ruin the asylum.

Before, Mouse and his trolling was the were expectation while the board talked Spurs and sports. Intellectual discussions were had. Now, it's girls trolling trolls and racists being racists and cunts being cunts and oh hey, there's a semi well thought out Spurs post... a now it's been reduced to a fuckfest of juvenile bile.

The NBA forum used to be the wastepin for idiots, trolls and racists. It was called downstairs for a reason. Now, this place is a single story dwelling.

I know LJ had/has health problems and you have a growing family but your absence to this forum has been it's downfall.

It's sad that a place like reddit has exponentially better spurs and sports discussion. But I guess that's what happens when you have proper moderation and self regulation.

I doubt much will come of my rant besides a bunch of pathetic trolls insulting me, so I don't even know why I'm doing this.

Shrug.

[Leetonidas]

:cry

[DD]

Confirmed be@ner

[DD]

Btw, calling out the owners of the site and broadcasting that you essentially think their forum is a piece of shit is very tactful of you.

I definitely wouldn't have saved this for PM either.:tu

[Arc]

:cry

man.. that avatar of yours is hilarious

[EVAY]

As some one who has been here since nearly the beginning, I am absolutely saddened at what this site has become. I know you guys have had the policy of limited moderation since the beginning but because of that policy, the inmates now ruin the asylum.

Before, Mouse and his trolling was the were expectation while the board talked Spurs and sports. Intellectual discussions were had. Now, it's girls trolling trolls and racists being racists and cunts being cunts and oh hey, there's a semi well thought out Spurs post... a now it's been reduced to a fuckfest of juvenile bile.

The NBA forum used to be the wastepin for idiots, trolls and racists. It was called downstairs for a reason. Now, this place is a single story dwelling.

I know LJ had/has health problems and you have a growing family but your absence to this forum has been it's downfall.

It's sad that a place like reddit has exponentially better spurs and sports discussion. But I guess that's what happens when you have proper moderation and self regulation.

I doubt much will come of my rant besides a bunch of pathetic trolls insulting me, so I don't even know why I'm doing this.

Shrug.

If they still own it (or control it) I have wondered the same thing.

I have not visited during a game during the last half of the playoffs because I cannot abide the trash that gets spewed toward other posters, our own players, etc. etc. And I'm not talking about taking a player to task. I'm talking about trashing our own team and spewing porn and vitriol and not getting called out for it by the moderators, publicly.

I use the ptr in-game anymore, or nothing at all. They have, and enforce, some decent rules. I don't know why the moderators have let this get so out of control.

I would encourage them to simply shut it down if they can't control it better than this, tbh.

But the only control any of us have is not to participate. And if none of us who aspire to better discussions participate, then we just let it go down the toilet ourselves.

[dbreiden83080]

There are still a lot of good posters here that know a lot about basketball.. If you hate it so much just leave.

[Baam]

If they still own it (or control it) I have wondered the same thing.

I have not visited during a game during the last half of the playoffs because I cannot abide the trash that gets spewed toward other posters, our own players, etc. etc. And I'm not talking about taking a player to task. I'm talking about trashing our own team and spewing porn and vitriol and not getting called out for it by the moderators, publicly.

I use the ptr in-game anymore, or nothing at all. They have, and enforce, some decent rules. I don't know why the moderators have let this get so out of control.

I would encourage them to simply shut it down if they can't control it better than this, tbh.

But the only control any of us have is not to participate. And if none of us who aspire to better discussions participate, then we just let it go down the toilet ourselves.

:lol pathetic take as usual... Gtfo and don't let the door hit you if it's so bad.

[EVAY]

:lol pathetic take as usual... Gtfo and don't let the door hit you if it's so bad.

okay, but you first!

[Gordon Hayward]

:lmao

[davidbowie]

the high activity and lack of moderation is what makes this place worth coming to everyday tbh

[Brazil]

:lol pathetic take as usual... Gtfo and don't let the door hit you if it's so bad.

:lol that's rich coming from one of the worst poster I saw on this site

[TheGreatYacht]

the high activity and lack of moderation is what makes this place worth coming to everyday tbh
This.

This site will get predictable with all the homer threads like...

"Manu vs MJ, who is more competitive"
"Can Pop figure out what happens when you get sucked into a black hole?"
"Could Timmy beat the Dream Team by himself?"
"That Jeff Ayres can sure rebound. Our FO are geniuses"

[AFBlue]

Request to take over the site and moderate it if you're concerned. It's clear every moderator has left this site so it can die. Maybe they didn't expect such a slow, shit-filled death tbqh. Either way, they're not coming back to save anything. Someone else is gonna have to step up.

[jag]

TheWriter and Buddy Holly are the San Antonio heroes this forum needs

[AFBlue]

This.

This site will get predictable with all the homer threads like...

"Manu vs MJ, who is more competitive"
"Can Pop figure out what happens when you get sucked into a black hole?"
"Could Timmy beat the Dream Team by himself?"
"That Jeff Ayres can sure rebound. Our FO are geniuses"

Yeah, before you joined to spread your brilliant truth bombs, this place was nothing but a bunch of FO shills that didn't debate or discuss anything of substance.

/bluefont

[DarrinS]

Yeah, before you joined to spread your brilliant truth bombs, this place was nothing but a bunch of FO shills that didn't debate or discuss anything of substance.

/bluefont


Him, Skull-1, and James Evans.

[houston spurs fan]

Him, Skull-1, and James Evans.
They are actually all the same person with different user names.

[TheGreatYacht]

Him, Skull-1, and James Evans.
Is tholdren your 2nd account? Y'all post same quality threads

[Darius Bieber]

Lol if you think a place like Reddit is better for Sports discussion, you're an idiot. That place is nothing more than salty fans complaining about other salty fans.

[unleashbaynes]

Spurstalk.com was never good you whiny bitch just better than the alternatives

[baseline bum]

Spurstalk was classy until 06 tbh

[Knoxxx]

This board is great running self moderated. Further, the most immature posters have grown up considerably and dont swear just because they can very often anymore. I have been on over moderated boards and they are horrible.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

They are actually all the same person with different user names.

This is the real problem in general.

[Soul_Patch]

As some one who has been here since nearly the beginning, I am absolutely saddened at what this site has become. I know you guys have had the policy of limited moderation since the beginning but because of that policy, the inmates now ruin the asylum.

Before, Mouse and his trolling was the were expectation while the board talked Spurs and sports. Intellectual discussions were had. Now, it's girls trolling trolls and racists being racists and cunts being cunts and oh hey, there's a semi well thought out Spurs post... a now it's been reduced to a fuckfest of juvenile bile.

The NBA forum used to be the wastepin for idiots, trolls and racists. It was called downstairs for a reason. Now, this place is a single story dwelling.

I know LJ had/has health problems and you have a growing family but your absence to this forum has been it's downfall.

It's sad that a place like reddit has exponentially better spurs and sports discussion. But I guess that's what happens when you have proper moderation and self regulation.

I doubt much will come of my rant besides a bunch of pathetic trolls insulting me, so I don't even know why I'm doing this.

Shrug.

Agree completely. This place became a dump.

[Dingle Barry]

Spurstalk. Come for the cunts. Stay for the fuckfest of juvenile bile.

[Juggity]

Completely disagree about reddit. Post one opinion that disagrees with the majority circle jerk and find yourself downvoted into oblivion. On spurstalk, everyone's opinion gets equal air.

[Capt Bringdown]

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5459/7187314513_63e2d16523_m.jpg

Perhaps the OP should start his/her own forum if this one doesn't meet his/her lofty expectations?

[Slomo]

If they still own it (or control it) I have wondered the same thing.

Your unsolicited blind speculations elevate the tone of this forum. Congrats!


I have not visited during a game during the last half of the playoffs because I cannot abide the trash that gets spewed toward other posters, our own players, etc. etc. And I'm not talking about taking a player to task. I'm talking about trashing our own team and spewing porn and vitriol and not getting called out for it by the moderators, publicly.

And yet here you are...


I use the ptr in-game anymore, or nothing at all. They have, and enforce, some decent rules. I don't know why the moderators have let this get so out of control.

Thanks for the info, I'm sure they appreciate your endorsement.


I would encourage them to simply shut it down if they can't control it better than this, tbh. I'm sure they will appreciate your advice of what to do with their property. Why don't you also explain to them how to raise their kids and run their company.



But the only control any of us have is not to participate. And if none of us who aspire to better discussions participate, then we just let it go down the toilet ourselves.


Just like them you have the right/possiility of registering your own domain, enter in a contract with a web hosting company and hire admins to install and maintain the forum for you. And then you will be in full control and moderate/ban/regulate at your little heart content. I'm sure it's going to be a runaway success.

In the mean time please feel free to mind your own business.

[Slomo]

As some one who has been here since nearly the beginning, I am absolutely saddened at what this site has become. I know you guys have had the policy of limited moderation since the beginning but because of that policy, the inmates now ruin the asylum.

Before, Mouse and his trolling was the were expectation while the board talked Spurs and sports. Intellectual discussions were had. Now, it's girls trolling trolls and racists being racists and cunts being cunts and oh hey, there's a semi well thought out Spurs post... a now it's been reduced to a fuckfest of juvenile bile.

The NBA forum used to be the wastepin for idiots, trolls and racists. It was called downstairs for a reason. Now, this place is a single story dwelling.

I know LJ had/has health problems and you have a growing family but your absence to this forum has been it's downfall.

It's sad that a place like reddit has exponentially better spurs and sports discussion. But I guess that's what happens when you have proper moderation and self regulation.

I doubt much will come of my rant besides a bunch of pathetic trolls insulting me, so I don't even know why I'm doing this.

Shrug.

You are right nothing will come out of your rant, because you chose to whine instead of doing something about it. There's a lot of bad posters/threads and yet there are still good ones and instead of putiing in the effort and writing good posts you are complaining because Kori and others are not doing it for your benefit and enjoyment.

[Mugen]

jesus christ, haven't seen a Slovenian go off like this since Game 3 of the 2010 Western Semis tbh.

[hater]

This.

This site will get predictable with all the homer threads like...

"Manu vs MJ, who is more competitive"
"Can Pop figure out what happens when you get sucked into a black hole?"
"Could Timmy beat the Dream Team by himself?"
"That Jeff Ayres can sure rebound. Our FO are geniuses"

:lmao truth meteor storm :lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

You are right nothing will come out of your rant, because you chose to whine instead of doing something about it. There's a lot of bad posters/threads and yet there are still good ones and instead of putiing in the effort and writing good posts you are complaining because Kori and others are not doing it for your benefit and enjoyment.

:lol so one isn't allowed to have an opinion?

What can he do about it, Slomo?

[HI-FI]

This site could be a lot better but the owners are busy....doing whatever they're doing. I never understood why they invested so much money and energy into this, only to let it die a slow death, but to each their own.

Can't totally agree with the OP, that asshole once started shit with me for no reason, so he's just as guilty for making this place a shithole as anyone else. There are some good posters that aren't around anymore unfortunately, but he's not one of them.


Confirmed be@ner
:lmao

[TheWriter]

Completely disagree about reddit. Post one opinion that disagrees with the majority circle jerk and find yourself downvoted into oblivion. On spurstalk, everyone's opinion gets equal air.

r/nbaspurs

[heyheymymy]

poor evay gettin rekt by slomo and co.

[Juggity]

r/nbaspurs

There's hardly any interesting discussion there. The community isn't large enough or active enough.

You have to go to r/NBA to get any tactical discussion or analytical posts, but on the other hand r/NBA is basically a thought prison where anything remotely funny or only obliquely NBA-related is deleted within 10 minutes and you get downvoted for stating an opinion that contradicts the accepted wisdom (thus burying your comments at the bottom of threads).

[Brazil]

:lol not sure why Slomo is going off on Evay tbh

For one, Evay is one of the good poster of the spurs forum, he mostly talks about basketball, doen't throw slurs in his posts and doesn't create a thread every hour poluting first page of the forum every time he has a fart brain.

For two, I'm not ok with all he wrote in this thread but he is just giving his two cents in a thread made for that. Besides he is just saying what a lot are thinking and saying all year long. If, by the way, you think this thread is not appropriated just lock it.

For three I just :lol at the "if you are not happy do something about it". What can he do tbh ? create a crew ? Slomo chose the wrong guy for using this kind of argument. Evay is one of the guy bringing something on the table.

POs ST suck this year, it is what it is. Harlem despite all his trolling at least create threads where there is bb discussion, Chinook is trying too, a few others the rest is garbage and overtaking the readable stuff.

I like ST, I'm grateful for kori, LJ and all the ones working to maintain it. It is because I care that I'm giving my humble opinion. Oh don't come with your "do something about it"

[Soul_Patch]

You are right nothing will come out of your rant, because you chose to whine instead of doing something about it. There's a lot of bad posters/threads and yet there are still good ones and instead of putiing in the effort and writing good posts you are complaining because Kori and others are not doing it for your benefit and enjoyment.

With all due respect, you missed the point completely.

Why take the effort to write posts when almost all of them are trolled into oblivion with BS.

[ducks]

With all due respect, you missed the point completely.

Why take the effort to write posts when almost all of them are trolled into oblivion with BS.

show the effort

[bigzak25]

Exactly ducks....exactly.

[MannyIsGod]

I don't like it here as much but I wonder what's changed more: me or the board. I had a good time with fellow spurs fans here discussing many things about the team but I think the reason I liked it so much was because I knew a lot of the people here and had good times with them. Now, I come here and I hardly know anyone who posts anymore. There's definitely more racism but we used to be trolling assholes too. So I'm not going to act like ST was always super classy or nice.

It is what it is and this ST isn't the ST I liked a lot. I'm ok with that. Was I planning to post here for the rest of my life? Probably not. I still keep in contact with the people I considered friends from here. I suspect many of us who were around 10 years ago when it all got started here feel the same way, but they can speak for themselves.

Anyway, if you want better basketball discussion then I suggest trying to start it yourself because those who posted here in the past but have moved on are not coming back except maybe for a scattered appearance here and there. Changes happen and ST is not immune.

[Biernutz]

One SpursTalk account per IP address......Stop the cowards from hiding behind multi screen names......

[Bender]

:lol not sure why Slomo is going off on Evay tbh

For one, Evay is one of the good poster of the spurs forum, he mostly talks about basketball, doen't throw slurs in his posts and doesn't create a thread every hour poluting first page of the forum every time he has a fart brain.

yeah, I wondered the same thing. I also think evay is one of the better posters here.

PS: it's "brain fart"

[ducks]

I think one account per ip address would help

I posted more before because I had more free time at work. I also have a family now so I am here less
I liked the people here that posted more before. I liked the chats we had. Now I post when I can but this place was better back then. less trolls and more controlling. still on of the best places for spurs talking though lots of traffic

[Malik Hairston]

:lol every NBA Forum I've ever checked out fucking sucks, tbh..

Reddit and Realgm is full of fans that don't know anything about the NBA, yet attempt to discuss it at a high level and recycle vanilla, corny takes that are inaccurate, most of the time..

[Malik Hairston]

Honestly, some of the shittiest posters on SpursTalk are some of the "old-school" posters..they're lost without the ability to tickle timvp's balls, that was the content of most of their posts:lol..

The reason SpursTalk isn't as good, in the eyes of a lot of "old-school" posters is simply because the Spurs haven't won a title in 7 years, and are at the end of the line..the choking from 2011 to 2013 also brought opposing trolls, along with a legion of cliff jumping Spurs fans..

The behavior of fanbases on the internet is generally intertwined with the success of their team in real life..once Duncan retires, most Spurs fans won't exist on the Internet, realistically speaking..

[nickbroken]

Yeah this forum use to be awesome more or less always been a lurker myself, stopped coming here for a years and now that I have been back I have to say jesus. Where are the bans for all the stupid ass racism ? The Spurs fans on this forum have went down like a lead dildo, they need a jail subforum to ban people to for being mooks.

[AusEM]

I think one account per ip address would help

People with mobile internet usually get assigned a different IP every time they connect.
One of the reasons why there are so many new posters is that last year users could not lurk during the playoffs so in order to follow game threads it was necessary to create an account and log in.

[T Park]

I don't like it here as much but I wonder what's changed more: me or the board. I had a good time with fellow spurs fans here discussing many things about the team but I think the reason I liked it so much was because I knew a lot of the people here and had good times with them. Now, I come here and I hardly know anyone who posts anymore. There's definitely more racism but we used to be trolling assholes too. So I'm not going to act like ST was always super classy or nice.

It is what it is and this ST isn't the ST I liked a lot. I'm ok with that. Was I planning to post here for the rest of my life? Probably not. I still keep in contact with the people I considered friends from here. I suspect many of us who were around 10 years ago when it all got started here feel the same way, but they can speak for themselves.

Anyway, if you want better basketball discussion then I suggest trying to start it yourself because those who posted here in the past but have moved on are not coming back except maybe for a scattered appearance here and there. Changes happen and ST is not immune.


Sad, but 100% on point. Agree with both Manny and Writer.

[tholdren]

One SpursTalk account per IP address......Stop the cowards from hiding behind multi screen names......
right, posters should only hide behind one screen name. You guys are all pussies. I've looked at this site for years, the first few without saying anything or creating an account. After the plethora of trash homer posts on here about players being great/elite I decided to jump on for a little conversing and a little trolling. I have found that there isnt much of an analytic twist to things from the beginning of my time here until now.

You guys cry about how other sites vote you down, and how this site is full of juveniles, yet the same bitches are USING EMOTICONS (is that even the right word?) when someone posts a halfway decent point, or if you don't agree. There is no difference in what the "regulars" do here to what the mods do elsewhere.

Please direct me to a sound post by a member with 10k+ posts. You probably cannot because there are none. These are the same people who aren't here to talk basketball, but are here to "vote you down" or "bury the thread."

The only problem I see, is that no one really understands that nothing here can be proven. ITS ALL OPINION, no matter how many stats you have to back it up. Statistics, sorry for the 1 person on here that understands the concept, are a mathematical PROJECTION of an OCCURRENCE which means, frankly, none of the shit you people claim to be your PROOF aren't even facts.

You are literally debating an opinion of random events that would never be duplicated and pretending you know the outcome. It's funnier than shit really, to watch the people with THOUSANDS of POSTS pretend to change the opinion of some fat 40 year old with a GED, then get stiff about it.

Now quick, someone classy follow this post up with an emotional picture, like any really classy person would do.

[AFBlue]

Slomo with the emo bads tbqh. This place needs an owner/moderator that can set even basic rules (such as not using homophobic and ethnic slurs) and be more present to enforce them. Spurstalk has always been and will always be a site for diversity of opinion where shit takes are just part of the game. But that doesn't mean this site should be run totally unencumbered.

[AFBlue]

right, posters should only hide behind one screen name. You guys are all pussies. I've looked at this site for years, the first few without saying anything or creating an account. After the plethora of trash homer posts on here about players being great/elite I decided to jump on for a little conversing and a little trolling. I have found that there isnt much of an analytic twist to things from the beginning of my time here until now.

You guys cry about how other sites vote you down, and how this site is full of juveniles, yet the same bitches are USING EMOTICONS (is that even the right word?) when someone posts a halfway decent point, or if you don't agree. There is no difference in what the "regulars" do here to what the mods do elsewhere.

Please direct me to a sound post by a member with 10k+ posts. You probably cannot because there are none. These are the same people who aren't here to talk basketball, but are here to "vote you down" or "bury the thread."

The only problem I see, is that no one really understands that nothing here can be proven. ITS ALL OPINION, no matter how many stats you have to back it up. Statistics, sorry for the 1 person on here that understands the concept, are a mathematical PROJECTION of an OCCURRENCE which means, frankly, none of the shit you people claim to be your PROOF aren't even facts.

You are literally debating an opinion of random events that would never be duplicated and pretending you know the outcome. It's funnier than shit really, to watch the people with THOUSANDS of POSTS pretend to change the opinion of some fat 40 year old with a GED, then get stiff about it.

Now quick, someone classy follow this post up with an emotional picture, like any really classy person would do.

Using basic or advanced statistics to strengthen your point/argument is a classic debate tactic. And that's what we're here to do...talk sports, state an opinion and debate it. Using rationale thought or even common sense in lieu of baseless emo overreaction shouldn't be discouraged imho. Especially when that baseless emo reaction is accompanied by slurs and personal attacks tbqh.

I'm not referencing you specifically, or even a specific sub-group (e.g. GNSF), as offenders fwiw.

[spurs1990]

Not much to add, but I appreciate the forum for its lack of censorship. There isn't any other board out there like it.

Homophobic/racial remarks aren't meant seriously on here anyway. They're just used as devices to add levity.

[ElNono]

tbf, upstairs used to be kept more clean up to last season... nowadays it looks a lot more like the playground that's downstairs...

the reality is that it's easy to skip past the garbage... or simply use the ignore list, tbh...

[phyzik]

Kori and/or LJ need to take a fucking Midol and go HAM on this place... it is becoming fucking stupid. I dare say, it is turning into a shittier version of Spursreport, and that is fucking sad.

[Baam]

Honestly, some of the shittiest posters on SpursTalk are some of the "old-school" posters..they're lost without the ability to tickle timvp's balls, that was the content of most of their posts:lol..

So true... The "golden age" of Spurstalk is only about two posters, Bruno and timvp, the rest don't bring anything to the table, most of them don't even have any real bball takes. Ask EVAY about the best rotation going forward or what she thinks is the best defense on Lebron and she won't care, that's not how she lives her fandom. Her fandom is about celebrating the greatness of the spurs bar none.


The reason SpursTalk isn't as good, in the eyes of a lot of "old-school" posters is simply because the Spurs haven't won a title in 7 years, and are at the end of the line..the choking from 2011 to 2013 also brought opposing trolls, along with a legion of cliff jumping Spurs fans..

The behavior of fanbases on the internet is generally intertwined with the success of their team in real life..once Duncan retires, most Spurs fans won't exist on the Internet, realistically speaking..

I don't know about that, few would remain but then again some of the worst teams in history like the TWolves still have fans caring and posting about them...

I think the forum is trending away from the sentimental rose colored glasses takes towards a more cutthroat analysis approach and that's getting more and more radical with the clock ticking... But hey if you can't handle it then there's the perfect alternative where any criticism/negativity is forbidden, where only a select few are allowed to write their thoughts for the others, it's called Pounding the Rock... And if you want something even more politically correct then there's 48moh. But like EVAY said, she doesn't simply want to switch to PTR, she want to shut down Spurstalk :lol. If you look at her takes historically, she couldn't even always handle timvp's level of criticism, she made it a point to white-knight TP no matter how he played... So it's no wonder she wants to shut down the whole website now... That's such a religious approach to her fandom... She doesn't even seem like a bad person/poster or anything, just very rigid minded...

I don't like everything about the recent spurstalk but I'll take the liberty of tone over anything, really sets it apart from the other fan blogs... It was already like that in the timvp era where he called a spade a spade and a tired old shit bad a tired old shit bag... And the racists shticks are not coming from new posters either...

[itsamanuthree]

I think one account per ip address would help

I posted more before because I had more free time at work. I also have a family now so I am here less
I liked the people here that posted more before. I liked the chats we had. Now I post when I can but this place was better back then. less trolls and more controlling. still on of the best places for spurs talking though lots of traffic

Wow, ducks, been reading some of your last messages, man, they sound much more mature and coherent xDDD than those from previous years. Maybe it's that family you have now, love can do wonders xD

I acompletely agree with op. I've been reading this forum for the last 4, maybe 5 years, posting very little, and all I've seen is more and more trolling (the one that's not funny), and less and less good stuff.

Someone mentioned the team's sucess and failures having an influence, that's a good observation. That has obviously had an important impact on the board.

[Malik Hairston]

I think it has become difficult for a lot of these old-school users to continue posting and thriving without the ability to provide brilliant takes, such as:

"Omg, great post timvp"

"I agree with everything, timvp"

"Great take, timvp"

"I hate X player because timvp hates him"

"That G2G was so much fun, wasn't it, timvp?"

"Your family is so beautiful, timvp, Kori Ellis is the perfect wife"

"We need game thoughts timvp, where are the grades?!"

:(it still hurts:(

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Honestly, some of the shittiest posters on SpursTalk are some of the "old-school" posters..they're lost without the ability to tickle timvp's balls, that was the content of most of their posts:lol..

The reason SpursTalk isn't as good, in the eyes of a lot of "old-school" posters is simply because the Spurs haven't won a title in 7 years, and are at the end of the line..the choking from 2011 to 2013 also brought opposing trolls, along with a legion of cliff jumping Spurs fans..

The behavior of fanbases on the internet is generally intertwined with the success of their team in real life..once Duncan retires, most Spurs fans won't exist on the Internet, realistically speaking..
:lol Yep, you just described posters like the writer and T park to a fcking T

[jimbo]

It's sad that a place like reddit has exponentially better spurs and sports discussion. But I guess that's what happens when you have proper moderation and self regulation.

Tbh, if I only read this line in your post I'd assume you had some sort of mental deficiency.

There is absolutely zero actual discussion of the Spurs on Reddit. If at any point you try to delve into why the Spurs are having problems you get hit with a horde of popsuckers saying "I don't know, but in Pop we trust. You must obviously be wrong." If you bring up any of the actual mistakes Pop has made throughout the years you get hit with the same circular logic.

Shit's pathetic imo. A bunch of 14-21 year olds trying to feel like they're superior to the common fan by dickriding the Spurs because they're such a good "team." :cry That passing :cry. :cry Those fundamentals :cry.

[MI21]

There is some legit posters still posting with very good opinions formulated from watching a lot of Basketball and a more advanced look at statistics rather than regurgitating opinions from sportswriters etc. Look no further than Chinook, El Nono, Mugen, Malik Hairston, baseline bum etc.. There is many more, off top of my head those are a few.

I don't understand why you would have a whinge about this without providing anything of substance yourself?

Also, :lol Charles Oakley

[davidbowie]

guys who cares we're gonna beat miami in the next week or so and win our 5th title and none of this will matter

:flag::flag::flag:

[Quasar]

Didn't realise LJ had health troubles. Thought it was mostly the kids. Hope you get better!

I was so disappointed after game 7 last year I stopped coming regularly. Been a lurker most of the time anyway due to work and family commitments.

I somewhat agree with the drop in the number of posts that are thought-provoking, although that is mostly related to the two best-known writers/analysts dropping off spurstalk (Bruno and TimVp). I miss those in-depth stat-analysing posts the most.

However, good quality content is still around - Harlem and El nono have taken up the flag to their credit.

My main issue is that there are lots of new names I don't recognise, thus making it less compelling to open threads if the subjects don't look appealing.

There was a recent stat analysing post that I quite enjoyed from a 'new' comer, I.e. a handle I don't recognise. Props to the new generation.

Winning it this year would wipe away the bitter disappointment of the past few years where the Spurs teetered on the edge of a championship.

Go spurs go... We need at least one of the "new" three to step up in order to win... The big three are already doing what they can but can't play big minutes anymore. Kawhi, Green and Splitter must step up!

[xmas1997]

As some one who has been here since nearly the beginning, I am absolutely saddened at what this site has become. I know you guys have had the policy of limited moderation since the beginning but because of that policy, the inmates now ruin the asylum.

Before, Mouse and his trolling was the were expectation while the board talked Spurs and sports. Intellectual discussions were had. Now, it's girls trolling trolls and racists being racists and cunts being cunts and oh hey, there's a semi well thought out Spurs post... a now it's been reduced to a fuckfest of juvenile bile.

The NBA forum used to be the wastepin for idiots, trolls and racists. It was called downstairs for a reason. Now, this place is a single story dwelling.

I know LJ had/has health problems and you have a growing family but your absence to this forum has been it's downfall.

It's sad that a place like reddit has exponentially better spurs and sports discussion. But I guess that's what happens when you have proper moderation and self regulation.

I doubt much will come of my rant besides a bunch of pathetic trolls insulting me, so I don't even know why I'm doing this.

Shrug.

You are absolutely 100% correct.
I have been saying much the same for a while now, and decided a while back to start bashing the trolls as much as possible as a consequence, but that is like a drop in the bucket for all the good it has accomplished.

All they need here to bring this site back up to the grandeur it once had is a little competent moderation.

If they made me and a few other mature intelligent long time posters mods, then heads would roll and decent posters would flock back in droves.
But do not make the trolls mods. That would result in what is going on now, inmates running the asylum.

[xmas1997]

right, posters should only hide behind one screen name. You guys are all pussies. I've looked at this site for years, the first few without saying anything or creating an account. After the plethora of trash homer posts on here about players being great/elite I decided to jump on for a little conversing and a little trolling. I have found that there isnt much of an analytic twist to things from the beginning of my time here until now.

You guys cry about how other sites vote you down, and how this site is full of juveniles, yet the same bitches are USING EMOTICONS (is that even the right word?) when someone posts a halfway decent point, or if you don't agree. There is no difference in what the "regulars" do here to what the mods do elsewhere.

Please direct me to a sound post by a member with 10k+ posts. You probably cannot because there are none. These are the same people who aren't here to talk basketball, but are here to "vote you down" or "bury the thread."

The only problem I see, is that no one really understands that nothing here can be proven. ITS ALL OPINION, no matter how many stats you have to back it up. Statistics, sorry for the 1 person on here that understands the concept, are a mathematical PROJECTION of an OCCURRENCE which means, frankly, none of the shit you people claim to be your PROOF aren't even facts.

You are literally debating an opinion of random events that would never be duplicated and pretending you know the outcome. It's funnier than shit really, to watch the people with THOUSANDS of POSTS pretend to change the opinion of some fat 40 year old with a GED, then get stiff about it.

Now quick, someone classy follow this post up with an emotional picture, like any really classy person would do.

These points are also true for the most part. IMHO there NEEDS to be a little moderation for this site to last.
Everyone I talk to and mention this site have the same criticism, that it has gravitated DOWN to become known as the "troll forum or site".
You may disagree, but that appears to be the overwhelming consensus.
It is what it is.
Those "trolls" on here are going to do what they do. Why? Because they can, and there will be no consequences to their actions, i.e. bans.
I suppose every good thing must eventually end, sad to say.

[Spur|n|Austin]

:lol not sure why Slomo is going off on Evay tbh

For one, Evay is one of the good poster of the spurs forum, he mostly talks about basketball, doen't throw slurs in his posts and doesn't create a thread every hour poluting first page of the forum every time he has a fart brain.

For two, I'm not ok with all he wrote in this thread but he is just giving his two cents in a thread made for that. Besides he is just saying what a lot are thinking and saying all year long. If, by the way, you think this thread is not appropriated just lock it.

For three I just :lol at the "if you are not happy do something about it". What can he do tbh ? create a crew ? Slomo chose the wrong guy for using this kind of argument. Evay is one of the guy bringing something on the table.

POs ST suck this year, it is what it is. Harlem despite all his trolling at least create threads where there is bb discussion, Chinook is trying too, a few others the rest is garbage and overtaking the readable stuff.

I like ST, I'm grateful for kori, LJ and all the ones working to maintain it. It is because I care that I'm giving my humble opinion. Oh don't come with your "do something about it"

I agree with you, but I think EVAY is a she, not a he :)

[Trainwreck2100]

I think it has become difficult for a lot of these old-school users to continue posting and thriving without the ability to provide brilliant takes, such as:

"Omg, great post timvp"

"I agree with everything, timvp"

"Great take, timvp"

"I hate X player because timvp hates him"

"That G2G was so much fun, wasn't it, timvp?"

"Your family is so beautiful, timvp, Kori Ellis is the perfect wife"

"We need game thoughts timvp, where are the grades?!"

:(it still hurts:(

I was never a timvp nuthugger but this sites gone to shit. It's like some kind of Lord of the flies sociology experiment now. Even the rules they made are being ignored

[Keepin' it real]

As some one who has been here since nearly the beginning, I am absolutely saddened at what this site has become. I know you guys have had the policy of limited moderation since the beginning but because of that policy, the inmates now ruin the asylum. ... Intellectual discussions were had. Now, it's girls trolling trolls and racists being racists and cunts being cunts and oh hey, there's a semi well thought out Spurs post... a now it's been reduced to a fuckfest of juvenile bile...



I agree 100%. I was thrilled when I first found Spurstalk. Seemed like a great place to discuss the Spurs with fellow fans. But instead, there are so many hateful people and disrespectful comments. The lack of moderation is unacceptable. This site allows ... no, invites hostility because unacceptable takes aren't deleted, racist posters aren't banned, and those emoticons -- my goodness, those emoticons -- so disrespectful and inflammatory. Why are they allowed?

I stopped posting after last season's finals but have lurked now and then. The site has gone from bad to worse ... no, make that from bad to fatally flawed. Seriously, someone needs to pull the plug on this site. The ignore list is not nearly adequate enough to make this site tolerable.
Case in point ... EIGHT PAGES of hateful crap takes about the Hispanic kid singing the national anthem. That post should have been deleted immediately! People with racist and offensive comments should have their ability to post blocked!

By not taking these steps, the site owners and mods are implying they endorse such remarks. This is not rocket science. It's running a website 101. There is no accountability, no discipline (as in banning people with offensive posts). This all falls squarely on the mods and site owners. If you can't keep up with moderating comments, then shut it down, for everyone's good.

For all you lowlifes who would argue "Just leave the site if you don't like it." -- that's not good enough. Not nearly good enough.

I've the voice of reason. I'm Keepin' it real. And I say this site needs to come down. The whole site is a cancer ... all you unacceptable posters are cancer cells ... and it's time for some massive chemotherapy.

Site owners: it's time to do the right thing -- nuke this site, permanently.

Sincerely,
A lifelong Spurs fan

P.S. For the few good posters on here, check out pounding the rock (http://www.poundingtherock.com/) if you haven't already done so. Great moderation. You can post takes without having to worry about all the filth and venom you get here.

[Brazil]

I agree 100%. I was thrilled when I first found Spurstalk. Seemed like a great place to discuss the Spurs with fellow fans. But instead, there are so many hateful people and disrespectful comments. The lack of moderation is unacceptable. This site allows ... no, invites hostility because unacceptable takes aren't deleted, racist posters aren't banned, and those emoticons -- my goodness, those emoticons -- so disrespectful and inflammatory. Why are they allowed?

I stopped posting after last season's finals but have lurked now and then. The site has gone from bad to worse ... no, make that from bad to fatally flawed. Seriously, someone needs to pull the plug on this site. The ignore list is not nearly adequate enough to make this site tolerable.
Case in point ... EIGHT PAGES of hateful crap takes about the Hispanic kid singing the national anthem. That post should have been deleted immediately! People with racist and offensive comments should have their ability to post blocked!

By not taking these steps, the site owners and mods are implying they endorse such remarks. This is not rocket science. It's running a website 101. There is no accountability, no discipline (as in banning people with offensive posts). This all falls squarely on the mods and site owners. If you can't keep up with moderating comments, then shut it down, for everyone's good.

For all you lowlifes who would argue "Just leave the site if you don't like it." -- that's not good enough. Not nearly good enough.

I've the voice of reason. I'm Keepin' it real. And I say this site needs to come down. The whole site is a cancer ... all you unacceptable posters are cancer cells ... and it's time for some massive chemotherapy.

Site owners: it's time to do the right thing -- nuke this site, permanently.

Sincerely,
A lifelong Spurs fan

P.S. For the few good posters on here, check out pounding the rock (http://www.poundingtherock.com/) if you haven't already done so. Great moderation. You can post takes without having to worry about all the filth and venom you get here.

:lmao

dear god

[Brazil]

I agree with you, but I think EVAY is a she, not a he :)

thanks for the correction :tu

yet another reason to not go off like that

[xmas1997]

I agree 100%. I was thrilled when I first found Spurstalk. Seemed like a great place to discuss the Spurs with fellow fans. But instead, there are so many hateful people and disrespectful comments. The lack of moderation is unacceptable. This site allows ... no, invites hostility because unacceptable takes aren't deleted, racist posters aren't banned, and those emoticons -- my goodness, those emoticons -- so disrespectful and inflammatory. Why are they allowed?

I stopped posting after last season's finals but have lurked now and then. The site has gone from bad to worse ... no, make that from bad to fatally flawed. Seriously, someone needs to pull the plug on this site. The ignore list is not nearly adequate enough to make this site tolerable.
Case in point ... EIGHT PAGES of hateful crap takes about the Hispanic kid singing the national anthem. That post should have been deleted immediately! People with racist and offensive comments should have their ability to post blocked!

By not taking these steps, the site owners and mods are implying they endorse such remarks. This is not rocket science. It's running a website 101. There is no accountability, no discipline (as in banning people with offensive posts). This all falls squarely on the mods and site owners. If you can't keep up with moderating comments, then shut it down, for everyone's good.

For all you lowlifes who would argue "Just leave the site if you don't like it." -- that's not good enough. Not nearly good enough.

I've the voice of reason. I'm Keepin' it real. And I say this site needs to come down. The whole site is a cancer ... all you unacceptable posters are cancer cells ... and it's time for some massive chemotherapy.

Site owners: it's time to do the right thing -- nuke this site, permanently.

Sincerely,
A lifelong Spurs fan

P.S. For the few good posters on here, check out pounding the rock (http://www.poundingtherock.com/) if you haven't already done so. Great moderation. You can post takes without having to worry about all the filth and venom you get here.

I post on PTR, as well as Spurs Report, and you are 100% correct. There are the vast majority of respectful, mature, intelligent, and civil posters on those sites, but especially so on PTR.
Things change. SR lost to this site because they OVER moderated, and this site became an oasis.
Now the tide has turned and this site has gone down the toilet for the opposite reason, it has sorry to say become a raging cesspool. Just go to The Club to see examples of this.
Some trolls on here will say "you are one of the worst trolls on here", but that would ONLY be true if you feel that "fighting back" against the over preponderance of trolls, is "trolling".
But what else can you do? Get out and go to another site? I already do that.
Try to fight back? I do that too.
Ask to be a moderator and do it from within? I have asked.
It just seems like the owners are too busy to take responsibility for what has happened IMHO.
All things change, it is what it is.

[Hoops Czar]

I agree 100%. I was thrilled when I first found Spurstalk. Seemed like a great place to discuss the Spurs with fellow fans. But instead, there are so many hateful people and disrespectful comments. The lack of moderation is unacceptable. This site allows ... no, invites hostility because unacceptable takes aren't deleted, racist posters aren't banned, and those emoticons -- my goodness, those emoticons -- so disrespectful and inflammatory. Why are they allowed?

I stopped posting after last season's finals but have lurked now and then. The site has gone from bad to worse ... no, make that from bad to fatally flawed. Seriously, someone needs to pull the plug on this site. The ignore list is not nearly adequate enough to make this site tolerable.
Case in point ... EIGHT PAGES of hateful crap takes about the Hispanic kid singing the national anthem. That post should have been deleted immediately! People with racist and offensive comments should have their ability to post blocked!

By not taking these steps, the site owners and mods are implying they endorse such remarks. This is not rocket science. It's running a website 101. There is no accountability, no discipline (as in banning people with offensive posts). This all falls squarely on the mods and site owners. If you can't keep up with moderating comments, then shut it down, for everyone's good.

For all you lowlifes who would argue "Just leave the site if you don't like it." -- that's not good enough. Not nearly good enough.

I've the voice of reason. I'm Keepin' it real. And I say this site needs to come down. The whole site is a cancer ... all you unacceptable posters are cancer cells ... and it's time for some massive chemotherapy.

Site owners: it's time to do the right thing -- nuke this site, permanently.

Sincerely,
A lifelong Spurs fan

P.S. For the few good posters on here, check out pounding the rock (http://www.poundingtherock.com/) if you haven't already done so. Great moderation. You can post takes without having to worry about all the filth and venom you get here.

I'm pretty sure this site is in the process of being sold. Spurstalk isn't free and I can't see a once proud pasionate site owner paying for something he doesn't even want to be a part of.

[Clipper Nation]

I think it has become difficult for a lot of these old-school users to continue posting and thriving without the ability to provide brilliant takes, such as:

"Omg, great post timvp"

"I agree with everything, timvp"

"Great take, timvp"

"I hate X player because timvp hates him"

"That G2G was so much fun, wasn't it, timvp?"

"Your family is so beautiful, timvp, Kori Ellis is the perfect wife"

"We need game thoughts timvp, where are the grades?!"

:(it still hurts:(
:lmao

[xmas1997]

I'm pretty sure this site is in the process of being sold. Spurstalk isn't free and I can't see a once proud pasionate site owner paying for something he doesn't even want to be a part of.

I think you might be correct.
While no one really knows all the particulars except those intimately involved in the matter, whether due to a settlement of some nature or some other reason, it is reasonable to make the assumption you make.

[sook]

i disagree about the pile on about the early NBA forum , it used to be pretty good. Too many posters that care about their internet rep and how cool they are now.

[lefty]

I think it has become difficult for a lot of these old-school users to continue posting and thriving without the ability to provide brilliant takes, such as:

"Omg, great post timvp"

"I agree with everything, timvp"

"Great take, timvp"

"I hate X player because timvp hates him"

"That G2G was so much fun, wasn't it, timvp?"

"Your family is so beautiful, timvp, Kori Ellis is the perfect wife"

"We need game thoughts timvp, where are the grades?!"

:(it still hurts:(
:lmao HH with the goods

[Shastafarian]

i disagree about the pile on about the early NBA forum , it used to be pretty good. Too many posters that care about their internet rep and how cool they are now.

Do they really believe those two are positively correlated?

[sook]

Do they really believe those two are positively correlated?

sadly, yes.

[Beaverfuzz]

Who the fuck cares? It's an escape for reality for most as well as a chance to talk about the Spurs (or other teams) with others around the globe. Stop making it more than it is.

Go Spurs Go
:flag:
:lobt2:

[Shastafarian]

sadly, yes.

Hilariously yes?

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

The main thing is there are a lot of people that think they're witty, and just aren't. The trolls used to at least put in effort and bring something to the board, now it's the equivalent of Grade-School name calling and wasted bandwidth. The Koolaid guy or whatever his name is in the NBA Forum is pretty much the epitome of what the rest of this site has become.

The racism is ratcheted way up from what it was even 2 years ago, and there's a lot fewer people that want to have a legitimate discussion about basketball. I post on the Rogan Board a lot and have found that the NBA Thread there is 20x more coherent than most of the shit I find on Spurstalk these days. I even quit doing Game Thoughts (something I enjoyed) after a couple of weeks because there would be about 5 people that came in and disagreed/agreed and had stats or observations of their own to add in then about 50 guys wanting to flame/dickride Manu and Parker.

The front page of the Spurs forum reads like a bunch of shitty Tweets from retards. I can remember one poster from the past that would do shit like this (SequSpur) and it was his thing. Everyone hated his fucking threads, usually dumb titles with 5-10 words that were just bitching but at least he was an outlier from the rest of the group. Now? There's 1000 of these guys just spamming the dumbest shit that comes to their brains. take that shit back to your Instagrams and Twitter accounts because it's killing what was once an awesome place to come pass the time at.

[Brazil]

The main thing is there are a lot of people that think they're witty, and just aren't. The trolls used to at least put in effort and bring something to the board, now it's the equivalent of Grade-School name calling and wasted bandwidth. The Koolaid guy or whatever his name is in the NBA Forum is pretty much the epitome of what the rest of this site has become.

The racism is ratcheted way up from what it was even 2 years ago, and there's a lot fewer people that want to have a legitimate discussion about basketball. I post on the Rogan Board a lot and have found that the NBA Thread there is 20x more coherent than most of the shit I find on Spurstalk these days. I even quit doing Game Thoughts (something I enjoyed) after a couple of weeks because there would be about 5 people that came in and disagreed/agreed and had stats or observations of their own to add in then about 50 guys wanting to flame/dickride Manu and Parker.

The front page of the Spurs forum reads like a bunch of shitty Tweets from retards. I can remember one poster from the past that would do shit like this (SequSpur) and it was his thing. Everyone hated his fucking threads, usually dumb titles with 5-10 words that were just bitching but at least he was an outlier from the rest of the group. Now? There's 1000 of these guys just spamming the dumbest shit that comes to their brains. take that shit back to your Instagrams and Twitter accounts because it's killing what was once an awesome place to come pass the time at.

like Slomo would say... do something about it :lol

[it's me]

Hey..... I somehow agree, but..... still a good place to get a laugh or two tbqh. It looks like there's an overpopulation of trolls though.

[xmas1997]

They don't call this the troll forum these days for no reason tbqh.

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

like Slomo would say... do something about it :lol

Until management starts banning obvious trolls and requiring a goddamn post count before starting threads, there's no point. The bad posters outnumber the good by at least 50:1

[Brazil]

Until management starts banning obvious trolls and requiring a goddamn post count before starting threads, there's no point. The bad posters outnumber the good by at least 50:1

I don't disagree with that but I still like ST, I hate censored forum it's just plain awful. I believe the stupid threads are taking over because good posters don't bother anymore to talk bb, it's the story of the egg and the chicken, who came first...

[tholdren]

I don't disagree with that but I still like ST, I hate censored forum it's just plain awful. I believe the stupid threads are taking over because good posters don't bother anymore to talk bb, it's the story of the egg and the chicken, who came first...

Once again, please give me an example of the bball threads you are referencing here.... the ones with the good posters talking bball. Ive been here for SEVERAL years, and there are 2 extremes: the old 20k posters who just repeat how every move the FO makes is great and then tries to use any stat they can while said player plays to back it up....OR the stupid posts derived from media talk shows a la "Spurs are not the best against the best" or "Spurs play good defense"

I have yet to see a post where I actually thought, "damn, this person may have actually played basketball in a legitimate and competitive league before."

If you can dig these up, I would gladly peruse. However, I think if you try, you will find one extreme or the other. This site is what it is; terrible for basketball iq, but awesome for a comedy show.

[HI-FI]

Everything starts from the top imo. The site only exists because of the owners, but it's gotten shitty because of their apathy. People mention some of the terrible posters that arrived post MVPau as a turning point, but who approved their accounts? Also, wasn't the EC formed to improve the NBA Forums and most of their suggestions were disregarded?

I never understood why legit Spursfans like TDMVPDPOY were banned upstairs for dropping relevant truth bombs on Parker, yet shitty and unfunny trolls post up here.

People talking shit about EVAY but she seems like a good person unlike some of the ST sociopaths. She obviously has a crush on Parker and overlooks his cheating, sulking ways. It's all good, it takes all types, as long as the Parker haters are given a platform as well.

I wonder if them selling it is true. I wonder how much it costs to run a site like this. Maybe they selling it to DPG who is supposedly related to them. DPG is a good guy, so if he takes over, it's time....for the Napoleonic Age. :tu

Ultimately though, people at the top have veto power and it's up to them to set the tone. I like the freedom of the joint, as too much censoring creates a lifeless atmosphere, but letting things turn into an anarchistic wasteland creates a lifeless situation as well imo.

[Brazil]

Once again, please give me an example of the bball threads you are referencing here.... the ones with the good posters talking bball. Ive been here for SEVERAL years, and there are 2 extremes: the old 20k posters who just repeat how every move the FO makes is great and then tries to use any stat they can while said player plays to back it up....OR the stupid posts derived from media talk shows a la "Spurs are not the best against the best" or "Spurs play good defense"

I have yet to see a post where I actually thought, "damn, this person may have actually played basketball in a legitimate and competitive league before."

If you can dig these up, I would gladly peruse. However, I think if you try, you will find one extreme or the other. This site is what it is; terrible for basketball iq, but awesome for a comedy show.

your post just shows you know shit about this site tbh

half of the old 20 k posters were repeating how FO sucks, do your homework
if u have not seen a legit post yet it can mean two things: you are a retard or you don't bother to read anything except for thread titles

on a side note, I'm eager to read your awesome takes as you seem to know about bb played in a legitimate league

[Brazil]

Everything starts from the top imo. The site only exists because of the owners, but it's gotten shitty because of their apathy. People mention some of the terrible posters that arrived post MVPau as a turning point, but who approved their accounts? Also, wasn't the EC formed to improve the NBA Forums and most of their suggestions were disregarded?

I never understood why legit Spursfans like TDMVPDPOY were banned upstairs for dropping relevant truth bombs on Parker, yet shitty and unfunny trolls post up here.

People talking shit about EVAY but she seems like a good person unlike some of the ST sociopaths. She obviously has a crush on Parker and overlooks his cheating, sulking ways. It's all good, it takes all types, as long as the Parker haters are given a platform as well.

I wonder if them selling it is true. I wonder how much it costs to run a site like this. Maybe they selling it to DPG who is supposedly related to them. DPG is a good guy, so if he takes over, it's time....for the Napoleonic Age. :tu

Ultimately though, people at the top have veto power and it's up to them to set the tone. I like the freedom of the joint, as too much censoring creates a lifeless atmosphere, but letting things turn into an anarchistic wasteland creates a lifeless situation as well imo.

since when you are back with your Parker is a faggot blabla timvpdpoty is an awesome poster schtick ? I must have missed it tbh

[bigzak25]

It is what it is. Til the wheels fall off boys. If you can't handle it, click the corner x. Thanks for keeping shop open K and LJ!

[xmas1997]

It is what it is. Til the wheels fall off boys. If you can't handle it, click the corner x. Thanks for keeping shop open K and LJ!

Are you the same BigZak I met at the Cris Madrid GTG?

[Duncanforthree]

Spurs Talk is accurate reflection of modern society, tbh.



Pretty f ing sad.

[HI-FI]

since when you are back with your Parker is a faggot blabla timvpdpoty is an awesome poster schtick ? I must have missed it tbh
:lol
TDMVPDPOY is a funny guy, I never understood the hate nor ST's nonsensical moderation.
As for Parker, I'm hoping for the best. I worry that Enrique is wanting to emerge, to steal the Finals MVP and blow the whole thing again. If he goes MVParker mode though, I'll gladly give him his proper respect as I've done in other games.

[exstatic]

It is what it is. Til the wheels fall off boys. If you can't handle it, click the corner x. Thanks for keeping shop open K and LJ!

Or, til you give away your notebook in a foreign country and run screaming down the street...

[tholdren]

your post just shows you know shit about this site tbh

half of the old 20 k posters were repeating how FO sucks, do your homework
if u have not seen a legit post yet it can mean two things: you are a retard or you don't bother to read anything except for thread titles

on a side note, I'm eager to read your awesome takes as you seem to know about bb played in a legitimate league

typical defer. Show me the goods man. If these posts are so prevalent you won't have to look too long.

What do you want to discuss? What is your concept of a legit post?

- Notice how I responded to you rather than give some bullshit wrapped in an insult. I don't know you, or follow your posts, but that is exactly the type of smug response I was expecting from a regular. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, because my post was rather aggressive and attacking, so I apologize.

So let's discuss some actual basketball. I will be awaiting your response.

[Brazil]

:lol
TDMVPDPOY is a funny guy, I never understood the hate nor ST's nonsensical moderation.
As for Parker, I'm hoping for the best. I worry that Enrique is wanting to emerge, to steal the Finals MVP and blow the whole thing again. If he goes MVParker mode though, I'll gladly give him his proper respect as I've done in other games.

Not saying he is not funny but dude posts his Parker on every possible thread or opportunity... Shhh nobody is reading what he is saying... He seems like the retard dude in the train speaking to himself about the end of the world

[AFBlue]

tbf, upstairs used to be kept more clean up to last season... nowadays it looks a lot more like the playground that's downstairs...

the reality is that it's easy to skip past the garbage... or simply use the ignore list, tbh...

More than half of Spurstalk would be on my ignore list tbqh. It just seems like an awful lot of shit posters with no real added value to wade through for a decent take...now moreso than ever. It's just not nearly as good as it used to be. And it has nothing to do with timvp posting less either fwiw.

[itsamanuthree]

He seems like the retard dude in the train speaking to himself about the end of the world

xDDDD

[bigzak25]

Or, til you give away your notebook in a foreign country and run screaming down the street...


You don't know what your talking about. Laptop was stolen....I did run for a while, but never screaming. Did I piss in your cheerios or something, you always bring this same thing up with me...

Yes xmas. I was not in a good mood the day I chewed your ass about troll fighting escapades. But I am THE bigzak of spurstalk.

[Quasar]

Bigzak nailed it. Spurs talk is where it's at.

Till the wheels fall off... Or in my case probably till Duncan and Manu retire.

Pounding the rock has nice articles but I like the occasional insight I get here as this is where most Spurs fans congregate.

Didn't know TDMVPDPOY was banned... He wasn't no worse than the trolls we have today and had some good posts too. But perhaps he didn't heed the mod's warnings.

[Sec24Row7]

This forum is trash now. Too many idiots and no spurs discussion...

[exstatic]

You don't know what your talking about. Laptop was stolen....I did run for a while, but never screaming. Did I piss in your cheerios or something, you always bring this same thing up with me...

Yes xmas. I was not in a good mood the day I chewed your ass about troll fighting escapades. But I am THE bigzak of spurstalk.

BH still hears about his 'Nsync meltdown. Why should you be any different? :lol

[MoSpur]

It's not the same anymore, but I think it's a combination of things. First there are idiots who ate constantly posting dumb pointless threads. Second, I think the Spurs not winning a championship recently has killed some of the joy of posting here on Spurstalk.com. Lastly, I think the fact that it's not as monitored or whatever has let this place get outta hand a bit. However, I still visit this place because I'm a Spurs fan and this place is still my choice to get info on what's going on with the Spurs.

It was great reading stuff from guys like Bigzak, Manny, AFBlue, Exstatic, and even T-Park (who I can't stand). Reminded me of the good old days.

[2centsworth]

There are people, new and old, who troll and flame all day. There should be a limit of 5 posts per day. That way people would hopefully focus on quality over quantity.

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[MoSpur]

Good call 2cents.

[Beaverfuzz]

Who the fuck cares?

[MI21]

I just don't understand this.

Start a thread discussing how the Spurs ball movement happens, don't just say "they have to move the ball to win". Talk about why LeBron is shooting such a high % against Kawhi instead of saying "he has to defend LeBron better". Start a thread about the 5 best Spurs championship role players with some stats and anecdotes not just "Tim is Top 10 GOAT"..

If you make a good thread, it doesn't get trolled, it gets discussed. Lots of really knowledgeable Basketball heads here that will pop up out of nowhere if you actually provide something.

But no, by all means whinge away about the state of the forum whilst sitting on the couch crying because the Spurs won a game and Miami got the ESPN headline. smh.

[MI21]

Some light reading for you ranging from how to defend LeBron, homegrown analysis of the Spurs defense, an opposition supporting saluting Patty Mills, a great article by the best NBA writer about Kawhi etc.. but by all means, whinge and don't contribute.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235058

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234926

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235035

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235082

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234518

[Nbadan]

As someone who has been here from the beginning...

This forum has always been what you make of it......hate the racist threads? Call them on it...
hate the stupid threads? let them die...
hate the trolls...ignore them...

In truth, a completely un-moderated board probably not a good idea, but this is still the largest Spurs forum on the internet....the better posters just need to work together and become the new TIMVP and Bruno of ST...

[jag]

As someone who has been here from the beginning...

This forum has always been what you make of it......hate the racist threads? Call them on it...
hate the stupid threads? let them die...
hate the trolls...ignore them...

In truth, a completely un-moderated board probably not a good idea, but this is still the largest Spurs forum on the internet....the better posters just need to work together and become the new TIMVP and Bruno of ST...

This is the main difference from how it used to be. Kori and LJ used to do a good job of calling people out for carrying on in the Spurs forum. The nonsense was mostly limited to the other forums. It rarely rose to the level of banning, because there was a general level of respect towards them. Any threads that crossed the line were closed.

That being said, I think people have somewhat selective memory when it comes to ST. It's true that there was better basketball talk back in the day, but that had a lot to do with Kori and timvp creating those discussions. They were a big part of that and it's hard to fill that hole.

On the other hand, SThas always been inundated with trolls and people getting bashed. It was the anti-SpursReport. The trolling has changed because different people are doing the trolling, but it's not like there are more trolls now than there used to be.

It's interesting to see TPark come in here and wax nostalgic about the quality takes of yesteryear. That's the same dude who built a reputation of going from thread to thread berating people he didnt agree with and/or telling them to drink Drano, die in a fire or step in front of a moving vehicle. It's also interesting to see TheWriter/Buddy Holly act like he actually contributes to basketball discussion. Guy spends his time patrolling the Spurs forum for any posts that portray San Antonio in a negative light. If someone makes a troll comment about Spurs fans being Mexican, or clowns on SA for being a rundown city, TheWriter will pop out from behind a bush and defend the honor of San Antonio. This whole thread was started in response to a troll thread about Holt moving the Spurs because SA has too many Mexicans. :lol that's how sensitive this guy is. He's also the guy who got run out of the Spurs forum for plagiarising stuff from Slomo.

[jag]

BUSTED

Holy crap, I can't explain in words how classic this thread is. Buddy Holly aka ACP aka TimManuParker akaTheWriter just got busted worse than worse than any human ever. Not only did he try to steal Slomo's pics, he's still lying in that thread about it. On top of that, he got caught having 1000 posts in an n'sync forum.

Kori doesn't even have to ban him. He'll never show his face here again.


:lmao :lol :rollin :rollin :lol :lmao

[Capt Bringdown]

The forum is stronger than ever. Change can be a good thing in forum-land. So-called "established posters" are typically more about circle-jerks and follow the leader. Who needs 'em?

[Mel_13]

So one of the worst posters in ST history is complaining about the quality of board?

In addition to a long record of crappy takes on a multitude of topics, he clearly lacks a sense of irony.

[TheWriter]

This is the main difference from how it used to be. Kori and LJ used to do a good job of calling people out for carrying on in the Spurs forum. The nonsense was mostly limited to the other forums. It rarely rose to the level of banning, because there was a general level of respect towards them. Any threads that crossed the line were closed.

That being said, I think people have somewhat selective memory when it comes to ST. It's true that there was better basketball talk back in the day, but that had a lot to do with Kori and timvp creating those discussions. They were a big part of that and it's hard to fill that hole.

On the other hand, SThas always been inundated with trolls and people getting bashed. It was the anti-SpursReport. The trolling has changed because different people are doing the trolling, but it's not like there are more trolls now than there used to be.

It's interesting to see TPark come in here and wax nostalgic about the quality takes of yesteryear. That's the same dude who built a reputation of going from thread to thread berating people he didnt agree with and/or telling them to drink Drano, die in a fire or step in front of a moving vehicle. It's also interesting to see TheWriter/Buddy Holly act like he actually contributes to basketball discussion. Guy spends his time patrolling the Spurs forum for any posts that portray San Antonio in a negative light. If someone makes a troll comment about Spurs fans being Mexican, or clowns on SA for being a rundown city, TheWriter will pop out from behind a bush and defend the honor of San Antonio. This whole thread was started in response to a troll thread about Holt moving the Spurs because SA has too many Mexicans. :lol that's how sensitive this guy is. He's also the guy who got run out of the Spurs forum for plagiarising stuff from Slomo.

That's a bait job but whatever, i'll bite. Great job deflecting what was said. What does my past or ERic's past or anyone's past have to do with how shitty this forum is today in comparison.

Your points were valued, Kori nd LJ were very valuable but they weren't the reason the quality was better, because there were served people who brought quality to.this forum back.then. It was their presence as owners/moderators that created the respect you talked about and not to mention, any nonsense was quick to be put out before it got too out of control.

Now, that presence isn't there, the respect is gone, the quick reaction is gone and new posters are taking advantage of that. It'd you want to.pretend.like the quality of this forum hasn't suffered greatly in the last 4-5 years, you're blind.
Enough ST vets have already posted in this thread that the site has gotten worse. It's not something I made up for shots and giggles.

Also, the thread you think set this into motion, wasn't even the reason I wrote my rant. If you think I'm as "sensitive" as I was 8 or 10 years ago, well then, let's be real because I'd have gone off a long time ago because this wasn't the first time that type of stuff has been posted here. That was like the third time this year.

Since you obviously have a lot of time on your hands and you like to search ST's history. You can search my comment history and see I've felt this way for a while.

It was never a single thread or a single comment that set me off, but an accumulation of months and months of sophomoric and juvenile threads filled with homophobic, racist, moronic trolling that was commonly found in The Club, The Troll section and then eventually in the NBA section has now taken it precedence like never before in the Spurs section.

You may be find with a serious spurs thread spiraling into an abyss on an almost regular basis, but I'm not and use states my grievance.

The best you had was to dredge up my past. Like that was supposed to sting and shut me up. I'd curl up in a corner somewhere.

Nope. Spurstalk was a really good, really fun site for Spurs fans. It no longer is. You may find solace here, I and many others don't.

Funny enough, you bringing up the past in an attempt to "shame" me and discredit what I said is exactly what I'd have expected from you... 8 years ago. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[Dex]

I thought we just blamed all of the GNSFs for this shit?

[benefactor]

BUSTED

Holy crap, I can't explain in words how classic this thread is. Buddy Holly aka ACP aka TimManuParker akaTheWriter just got busted worse than worse than any human ever. Not only did he try to steal Slomo's pics, he's still lying in that thread about it. On top of that, he got caught having 1000 posts in an n'sync forum.

Kori doesn't even have to ban him. He'll never show his face here again.

:lmao

[xmas1997]

You don't know what your talking about. Laptop was stolen....I did run for a while, but never screaming. Did I piss in your cheerios or something, you always bring this same thing up with me...

Yes xmas. I was not in a good mood the day I chewed your ass about troll fighting escapades. But I am THE bigzak of spurstalk.

Good to hear from you again. I didn't take it personally. And as you probably know I was referring to these new breed of unfunny, immature, uncreative, ignorant trolls that have infested this whole site in the last few years.

[RD2191]

:lmao

[pubic hair]

Who is The Writer again?

[xmas1997]

Who is The Writer again?

Just another two bit troll who thinks he's funny and rarely if ever understands sarcasm.

But he serves a purpose in what he does.

[pubic hair]

Just another two bit troll who thinks he's funny and rarely if ever understands sarcasm.

But he serves a purpose in what he does.

Does he need a Lap Dance?

I can do it to n'sync if he wants.

[xmas1997]

Does he need a Lap Dance?

I can do it to n'sync if he wants.

:lmao

[DrunkTXLabrat]

This site could be a lot better but the owners are busy....doing whatever they're doing. I never understood why they invested so much money and energy into this, only to let it die a slow death, but to each their own.

Can't totally agree with the OP, that asshole once started shit with me for no reason, so he's just as guilty for making this place a shithole as anyone else. There are some good posters that aren't around anymore unfortunately, but he's not one of them.

i have op blocked because of some stupid posts from the raiders thread.

:lmao

[DrunkTXLabrat]

right, posters should only hide behind one screen name. You guys are all pussies. I've looked at this site for years, the first few without saying anything or creating an account. After the plethora of trash homer posts on here about players being great/elite I decided to jump on for a little conversing and a little trolling. I have found that there isnt much of an analytic twist to things from the beginning of my time here until now.

You guys cry about how other sites vote you down, and how this site is full of juveniles, yet the same bitches are USING EMOTICONS (is that even the right word?) when someone posts a halfway decent point, or if you don't agree. There is no difference in what the "regulars" do here to what the mods do elsewhere.

Please direct me to a sound post by a member with 10k+ posts. You probably cannot because there are none. These are the same people who aren't here to talk basketball, but are here to "vote you down" or "bury the thread."

The only problem I see, is that no one really understands that nothing here can be proven. ITS ALL OPINION, no matter how many stats you have to back it up. Statistics, sorry for the 1 person on here that understands the concept, are a mathematical PROJECTION of an OCCURRENCE which means, frankly, none of the shit you people claim to be your PROOF aren't even facts.

You are literally debating an opinion of random events that would never be duplicated and pretending you know the outcome. It's funnier than shit really, to watch the people with THOUSANDS of POSTS pretend to change the opinion of some fat 40 year old with a GED, then get stiff about it.

Now quick, someone classy follow this post up with an emotional picture, like any really classy person would do.

beautiful!

[rjv]

when was this place ever any different from what the OP described?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

There are people, new and old, who troll and flame all day. There should be a limit of 5 posts per day. That way people would hopefully focus on quality over quantity.

O

that's an interesting idea

[Dex]

:bobo

[Budkin]

:bobo

Love the new addition!

[timtonymanu]

:lol Some of the posts in this thread are great, excluding anything the OP said obviously.

Also not surprising T Park agrees with the OP. I'm waiting for T Park's next post in a random thread writing about how the forum sucks compared to before. :lmao

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

ST is not what it used to be, but nor is the internet or the world, both of which have become much uglier in the past decade.

Things have changed and generally not for the better, but it is no good asking someone else to fix it for us - it is up to each of us to make our contribution to the greater good. The fact that so many people give up or give in to the decline is the major reason the world is going to shit.

I may not be around here as much as I once was, but I still highly value ST for the great posters and diversity. I hope it sticks around for a long time to come.

[hsxvvd]

ST is not what it used to be, but nor is the internet or the world, both of which have become much uglier in the past decade.

Things have changed and generally not for the better, but it is no good asking someone else to fix it for us - it is up to each of us to make our contribution to the greater good. The fact that so many people give up or give in to the decline is the major reason the world is going to shit.

I may not be around here as much as I once was, but I still highly value ST for the great posters and diversity. I hope it sticks around for a long time to come.

Hey Ruffy, we doing the Bruce Bowen Yahoo League again? I'm in.... if your not interested in getting it up and running... any way you can switch Commish powers to me so I can set it up again. I could start a fresh one, but I'd like to have the history of previous years, setting available etc.

Hope you have another year in you... this is my redemption year!