Sheehan's husband files for divorce

[whottt]

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0815051sheehan1.html


Sheehan's Husband Seeks Divorce
Bush roadside protester named in California petition filed Friday
AUGUST 15--The next well-wisher approaching Cindy Sheehan at her tent encampment outside President George W. Bush's Texas vacation home may actually be a process server. That's because the California woman's husband--in a curious bit of timing--filed for divorce Friday afternoon (below you'll find a copy of Patrick Sheehan's complaint, lodged August 12 in Solano County District Court). With Sheehan, 48, entering a second week outside Bush's Crawford retreat, her husband's divorce petition cites "irreconcilable differences" for the demise of the couple's 28-year marriage (the Sheehans, the document states, have been separated since June 1). Along with a Vacaville home, Patrick Sheehan listed other "community assets" as "any and all benefits payable as a result of son's death," including a Prudential insurance policy and "benefits from the U.S. Government." From her roadside outpost, Sheehan, whose 24-year-old son Casey, an Army Specialist, was killed last year in Iraq, has become the face of the U.S. antiwar movement, telling reporters that she will not budge until Bush meets with her and explains "why our sons are dead." Noting that Bush has referred to the war as a "noble" pursuit, Sheehan told Reuters, "If it's such a noble cause, why aren't his daughters over there?" Patrick Sheehan's lawyer, Glen DeRonde, did not return a TSG call, so it is unclear whether the divorce complaint will be delivered to her in Texas or when she returns to her home east of San Francisco. (4 pages)



I wonder why.

[Trainwreck2100]

If i was the husband i'd try to rush these court proceedings he could get a whole lot if she decides to stay in Crawford while he gets the assets.

[Nbadan]

Obscenity

John Cole has the latest Michelle Malkin smear. I knew that once Cindy started this vigil, the most extremely vile right wingers would do their thing. Many people on the left, center, and right ( Gandleman has a good round-up) have their feelings about Cindy and have voiced their opinions. Cole and I differ on several issues and he can defend what he says. But this crap that Malkin writes is the lowest form of "smeardom" I've seen. Cole says:

"But this kind of bile coming from Michelle Malkin is fucking out of line, and spare me the ‘like it or not, this is news’ crap. It is goddamned disgraceful. Knock it off, take down that post, and then apologize. Cindy Sheehan’s marital status, her relationship with her husband- none of that is your damned business. Even if you think it ‘proves’ a point. If it proves anything, it proves that losing a son in war fucks up families. Thanks for the deep insight."

Michelle is a disgrace on the highest level. That's right Michelle "war is hell" and it destroys entire families. I wonder if you know anything about the rate of alcoholism, divorce, suicide, or family abuse that occurred to our Vietnam Vets after they returned home from war? Just out of curiosity, does anyone remember Malkin's stance on the NYT doing a background check on Judge John Robert's adoption records? I do.

Wasn't she appalled that John Kerry mentioned Mary Cheney's daughter during the campaign. Malkin: John Kerry stooped to the lowest of the low with the shameless, invasive line that will be played over and over again on the news in the next 24 hours...read on

Michelle, you now have stooped to the lowest low with your shameless invasive post on Cindy's imminent divorce. How do you find the courage to look in the mirror?

Crooks and Liars (http://www.crooksandliars.com/)

[Nbadan]

Cindy's response...


T r u t h o u t | One Mother's Stand
By Cindy Sheehan

Monday 15 August 2005
3:44 AM

I apparently am the sacrificial lamb of the peace movement. I don't care about myself. Putting myself in the forefront and daring to challenge the president on his lies left myself open to the attacks. Which are, of course, half truths and distortions.

When they start sliming my home life and my family, that's where I draw the line. Yes, my husband has filed for divorce and yes he filed before I left for the VFP Convention and this trip to Crawford and yes IT IS BETWEEN MY HUSBAND AND I.

Having Casey murdered in Iraq by George Bush's reckless policies has been hard enough on my family, but me setting off on my holy war to bring the troops home, my constant absences, and all of the media attention has put additional stresses on my family.

I chose my path after Casey died. The rest of the family has chosen theirs. We all still love each other and support each other in anything that we do. We didn't want Casey to join the Army, but once he made that decision, we supported him and even encouraged him through boot camp.

We are a normal American family who have had good times, bad times, and terrible times. We hope the good times will come back. We hope that we will be able to laugh with abandon together like we used to one day. We hope that the troops come home and no other families have to go through what we are going through.

It isn't about politics for us. No one asked Casey what political affiliation he was before they sent him off to die in Iraq and no one asked us who we voted for in 2000 before we were handed a folded flag from Casey's flag-draped coffin.

I am not perfect and I never even claimed to be perfect. My family isn't perfect, but we are pretty special ... especially the children. We all miss Casey so much and it is George Bush and his neocon cabal who is at fault. The people who are dragging my family through the mud need to grow up and look at themselves. The Christ said: "He who is without sin, cast the first stone."

If everyone followed Jesus's advice, the world would be a much better place.

Cindy Sheehan, Truthout (http://www.truthout.org/cindy.shtml)

[whottt]

Uh Cindy Sheehan has chosen to put her face on my TV set 24/7 and given a voice to mendacious, ignorant and archaic anti-war sentiment...

She's made herself a public figure...everything about her is fair game. If she doesn't want her private life plastered all over my TV set then she needs to get her ass off my TV.

Oh and there was too much fucking profanity in that article for me to take it as serious journalism...basically it's just some asshole giving his opinion...just like you and I.

[gtownspur]

Cindy sheehan is obviously stopped morining for the fellow and is now poticizing this. Her husband probably knows this and doesnt care much for her.

NbaDan, the only reason people sympathize with her is because of the loss of her son. Other than that she seems to be more interested in the political appeasement than her emotional one.

[whottt]

We didn't want Casey to join the Army, but once he made that decision, we supported him and even encouraged him through boot camp


Thank you for separating yourself from your son's noble death. You had nothing to do with it.


Oh and thank you for mentioning that he joined the service of his own free will, knowing full well the risks inherent in the job.

Her kid was a hero...not only did he join the service...he re-enlisted after we were in Iraq...and he volunteered to go on the mission that killed him...

And this fucking bitch is going around saying he was murdered by the President....she's a fucking liar. And she's exploiting his death and it's sickening.

If she wants to get political with his death then let's get political with it...

[Nbadan]

NbaDan, the only reason people sympathize with her is because of the loss of her son. Other than that she seems to be more interested in the political appeasement than her emotional one.

People empathize with Sheehan because she is asking the questions that our elected representatives and the corporate media should be asking the WH about Iraq.

[Spurminator]

Saw this coming a mile away...


Unfortunately, she is going to be sucked dry from partisans on both sides who will lionize and villify her simultaneously.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23133&page=4&pp=26

[Marcus Bryant]

If I don't give a fuck either way does that make me a bad American?

[Spurminator]

People empathize with Sheehan because she is asking the questions that our elected representatives and the corporate media should be asking the WH about Iraq.

I think more people would empathize if she didn't sound like a Left-Wing Blog on autopilot.

I think a lot of people, myself included, feel pity for her and have absolutely no problem with her protest. It's just that her message is one that most people cannot relate to or take seriously. She's not just a simple mother asking "why?"... She seems to have all of the answers already, and she seems to have gotten them from the Left-Wing Blogosphere.

I mean, now she has an opinion on Israel? What's next? Her feelings on abortion? Karl Rove?

The Right is doing its damndest to bring her down, which is even more unfortunate. But a lot of the resentment many people feel towards her is based on her own statements. That's one thing that can't be blamed on the Right Wing Media.

[Marcus Bryant]

Frankly, I really do not care about the latest "controversy" to hit the 10 day cable-blog newscycle/clusterfuck.

[Spurminator]

It's probably best that way. But I have a feeling she's becoming a historical figure before our eyes. I'd like to have some kind of perspective on it in case my kids are asking about the Cindy Sheehan they learned about in school some day.

[whottt]

I've got a problem with all anti-war protesters that grandstand for the media...they give aid and comfort to our enemy during a time of war...their name is on every bullet fired and every bomb exploded by a terrorist that hangs on just a little bit longer because of the hope these demostrations give them...

It does have a positive impact on those we are fighting...

But I am used to this...and it their right...and the media is just as much at fault.

But where this woman crosses the line is when she says Bush murdered her son....I understand women need to vent and this woman has been hit harder by this war than most Americans...her life is a total wreck and it probably is due to this war more than any other factor...


But her son didn't die to feul fat asses anti-war propaganda machine...Her son gave his life for this country...fighting for it...fighting in it's name. He did not die staging an anti-war protest and she is tossing everything he stood for...everything he wanted to stand for...into a dumpster and that offends me greatly. She has no respect for the cause in which her son died...and therefore she has no respect for his life.

If she wants to protest go right ahead and join the rest of the terrorist lovers...but when she brings her son into it...she is using his name and death for her own cause...not his. It's just wrong...and it doesn't exactly send a message to me that she cared as deeply for her son as she claims...if she did she wouldn't be disgracing his memory, minimizing the cause in which he died, and even worse, trying to make it meaningless. Her political views mean more to her than her dead son...and therefore my sympathy for her is dissapating.

[Hook Dem]

She's just another left wing project hatched from the left wing political machine! Do you really think that machine really gives a shit about her son? :rolleyes

[Trainwreck2100]

I apparently am the sacrificial lamb of the peace movement. I don't care about myself. Putting myself in the forefront and daring to challenge the president on his lies left myself open to the attacks. Which are, of course, half truths and distortions.

When they start sliming my home life and my family, that's where I draw the line. Yes, my husband has filed for divorce and yes he filed before I left for the VFP Convention and this trip to Crawford and yes IT IS BETWEEN MY HUSBAND AND I.


WRONG, the minute she decided to accept her celebrity she gave up any right she had to privacy (figurative not literall, i.e. her constitutional rights are still intact). The husband can earn some serious bank by divulging nasty secrets about her.

[Spam]

I think they should work it out like good conservative Christians should.
Oh, wait a minute...the divorce rate is just as high amongst those great church going, live by the bible folks.

[Spurminator]

That's some tangent there, Spam... Any other irrelevant pot-shots you'd like to sneak in?

[SWC Bonfire]

I think they should work it out like good conservative Christians should.
Oh, wait a minute...the divorce rate is just as high amongst those great church going, live by the bible folks.

Which goes to show that there are selfish, me-first attention whores on both sides of the political landscape.

I feel sorry for this woman and the loss of her son. But she is gone beyond grieving and is grandstanding.

The person everyone needs to feel sorry for is the father. He lost HIS son (it is different when a man looses a son), and now his wife has gone AWOL.

[MannyIsGod]

I've got a problem with all anti-war protesters that grandstand for the media...they give aid and comfort to our enemy during a time of war...their name is on every bullet fired and every bomb exploded by a terrorist that hangs on just a little bit longer because of the hope these demostrations give them...
[/qoute]

Shut the fuck up. You're so full of shit. I could care less about this woman and so can most normal people out there. However, the pundits like you who love to stir the shit from either side of the pot and then argue over what it smells like. Well, it smells like shit.

If what you said is true, then those bullets also have your name on them and the name of every other person who chooses to start threads on her, jane fonda, give them coverage, or pay them any shred of attention.

[quote]
It does have a positive impact on those we are fighting...

Neither does me taking a shit. Does that mean I'm not allowed to do it? Or does that mean you're going to argue and start threads over my bowel movements as well?



But I am used to this...and it their right...and the media is just as much at fault.

The media only cater to people like you who give them a reason to pay attention. You think they are going to show things on the air that people don't watch? Right. But then again, maybe the media became what it is today using stupid business practices



But where this woman crosses the line is when she says Bush murdered her son....I understand women need to vent and this woman has been hit harder by this war than most Americans...her life is a total wreck and it probably is due to this war more than any other factor...

You understand nothing. If you did you'd let her do her thing and not give a rats ass. But you see the way she deals with her grief as some sort of slap in the face torwards you even though you're not the one who has to live without a son for the rest of your life.

You fucking assholes are really eager to sacrafice other peoples kids to enact your grand foreign policy but you're not willing to deal with the consequences. Next time pick up a damn gun and fight your own damn wars and hope your mother would care as much as she does.



But her son didn't die to feul fat asses anti-war propaganda machine...Her son gave his life for this country...fighting for it...fighting in it's name. He did not die staging an anti-war protest and she is tossing everything he stood for...everything he wanted to stand for...into a dumpster and that offends me greatly. She has no respect for the cause in which her son died...and therefore she has no respect for his life.

You mean like freedom of speech? You mean the soliders who fight to protect this country don't think they stand for freedom of speech? Of course not, only if she agrees with your standpoint, right? Then it is ok to excercise freedom of speech.



If she wants to protest go right ahead and join the rest of the terrorist lovers...but when she brings her son into it...she is using his name and death for her own cause...not his. It's just wrong...and it doesn't exactly send a message to me that she cared as deeply for her son as she claims...if she did she wouldn't be disgracing his memory, minimizing the cause in which he died, and even worse, trying to make it meaningless. Her political views mean more to her than her dead son...and therefore my sympathy for her is dissapating.
I'm glad you're able to decide what the memory of someone's child should be better than they are. When did you carry her son in your womb?

Your sympathy for her? Thats a fucking joke. I'd hate to see how you deal with people you are unsympathetic to.

She is using his death for her own cause, but no more so than Bush and countless other people have used the deaths of people for their cause for the longest time.

[mookie2001]

whottt you got owned.

[Spurminator]

And what happens when the next person shows up expecting a one-on-one chat? And the next?

[mookie2001]

thats the excuse being made

the reason is, in a chat with someone talking to bush, asking him questions that he hasnt heard before, with no speech prepared or teleprompter, bush would get owned and him and his people know it

[Spurminator]

Probably would, but that's not the point. Even if Bush was the Greatest Communicator in Presidential History and could answer all the tough questions with well-thought out answers, he wouldn't be inviting Sheehan in to speak with him. It doesn't work like that.

[Useruser666]

I think the common theme in this forum is, "It's wrong if I don't agree with it!"

[Clandestino]

fuck this ho.. she is all going ruby ridge now.. i will not pay taxes.. stfu bitch and go home...

[whottt]

What questions is she going to ask him that haven't been asked before?



Last I checked, she had already concluded that he was a murderer...that this was a war for Oil...

Basically the same things Usama says...

Get fucking real, you guys are about as cutting edge as a Big Chief Notebook.


One last time for the illiterate fucks that can't read...

She was against her son joining the military.

Her son joined against her wishes.

He re-enlisted after the Iraq War had begun.

He volunteered to go on the mission that killed him.


She calls Bush a murderer...

She somehow hold him responsible for the Palestinian Israeli Conflict(like the rest of the Liberals)

You guys rationalize it, you defend it...

Conclusion:

Ya'll are either so lost in some fucking fantasy land of moral equivalancies that you are clinically retarded...and incapable of differentiating right from wrong.

Or you are anti-American and are working against the goals of this country.

Either way...Get fucked.

And anyone that's got problem with me using my free speech to criticize her for comments made using her right to free speech...

Deal with it.

The PC era is fucking over and we aren't going to hand the country over to a bunch of drugged out delusional lefties....or a hysterical mother.

[mookie2001]

^ I like the cut of your jib

[Clandestino]

if he breaks down and meets with her mookie will be the next camper bitching about tahoes...

[mookie2001]

do you think any of the Bush supporters in Crawford have Tahoes?
honestly?

[Clandestino]

i'm sure there are suvs galore there..

[mookie2001]

i dont really mind suvs
i was just wondering if anyone drove any Tahoes, Yukons, Escalades
thats what i want to know about this whole crawford mess
ATTN Fox News!!

[whottt]

I thinks its a excuse also. Sometimes leaders have to deal with things they don't always agree with. Just because he talks to her doesn't mean he has to talk to every jackass out there.

If he spends some time with her the next to show-up and demand his time won't have as much power to do so because the media will have moved on to the next great thing and this Sheehan movement will have been over and done with.

Again I don't agree with how she is going about this but as a leader he has to make time to address the average pissed off Joe.

Lets say you have 100 pissed off employees that are mad for the same reasons. The leader of you employees demands answers. The owner of this company then addresses the leaders as best as he could which in turn quites the leader down. Then yes, some people will still be mad but that doesn't mean the flood gates are open for this owner to talk to every individual person. Society may be stupid but I don't think the general public expects for him to deal with everyone if he deals with her.

Now everyone is pissed he is ignoring her more than they are pissed for the reasons she's there. He should have address this right up front that would have earned him far more respect than doing nothing. I don't agree with her but I really don't agree with how she is being handled.



If she really wanted to talk to Bush she'd separate herself from the partisan political groups she has surrounded herself with...and she'd stop sounding like...as Spurminator put it...a leftist blog on autopilot.

As it is....whatever she originally wanted, this is nothing more than a PR stunt now...a media circus(her words, not mine).

She isn't a poor war mom now...she's an anti-war leftist and her aim is to discredit the President, and by default the Iraq war and the USA.

It hasn't changed anyones mind...except her husbands...

[Spurminator]

Now everyone is pissed he is ignoring her more than they are pissed for the reasons she's there.

Are they?

[Trainwreck2100]

Are they?


I'm pissed because she's there, there's missing people in Aruba we should be worrying about.

[MannyIsGod]

It is funny. If the people on the right really wanted this woman to go away, they would do like Bush does and deny her any legitimacy and simply not discuss her.

But, they get so excited that people like Whottt start foaming at the mouth at the opportunity to point out how crazy this wacked out liberal is. They sustain the shit they supposubly hate because they can try to use it to their advantadge.

It is all part of the big game of Bullshit.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm pissed because she's there, there's missing people in Aruba we should be worrying about.
:lmao

Classic

[mookie2001]

It is funny. If the people on the right really wanted this woman to go away, they would do like Bush does and deny her any legitimacy and simply not discuss her.

But, they get so excited that people like Whottt start foaming at the mouth at the opportunity to point out how crazy this wacked out liberal is. They sustain the shit they supposubly hate because they can try to use it to their advantadge.

It is all part of the big game of Bullshit.
Manny extends his lead in come correct % 99.1

[whottt]

Its not that it hasn't been asked its that it hasn't been answered.


What do you want answers for when you already claim to know the truth?

Bush is a murderer.

And he did answer her...he said he wasn't going to try to change her mind.

She's free to hate him and call him a murder and undermine the war effort and advocate cutting and running in Iraq ,rendering every death there(including her sons voluntary sacrifice) meaningless...


Aint America great.


She isn't however, free to not pay her taxes...

[mookie2001]

aint free speech a bitch
in WWI they locked you up for being antiwar
during WWII they sent you to a nice camps for being, German, Italian, Japanese American
now they just call you crazy and antiamerican leftoleftistlefty on Fox News

[whottt]

Manny extends his lead in come correct % 99.1


Yeah...because I am the only one talking about it...Manny isn't.

Manny doesn't care...he's just here....in this thread...discussing it...just like me.

[Spurminator]

I don't really know, I haven't followed the story on the conventional media outlets. But I've also learned not to judge public opinion by which side of the story the Mainstream Media is covering.

I'll be interested to see the Gallop results.

[MannyIsGod]

Actually, I'm discussing your myopia, Whottt. I really don't care about the situation itself, but the idiocy that surrounds it.

[whottt]

aint free speech a bitch
in WWI they locked you up for being antiwar

That would be Democrat President Wilson that did that.



during WWII they sent you to a nice camps for being, German, Italian, Japanese American

That would be Democrat Presidents Roosevelt and Truman that did that.




now they just call you crazy and antiamerican leftoleftistlefty on Fox News

If the straightjacket fits...

[mookie2001]

Lincoln was Republican
Lincoln was Republican
Lincoln was Republican
Lincoln was Republican
Lincoln was Republican
there you go

youre right about the presidents, but i thought leftoleftistleftys were afraid of war
anyway up until 2000 i respected republicans
they USED to stand for small government, and responsible spending and the constitution
now its the exact the opposite, hence the "neo"
so we'll talk about the parties in their current state

[whottt]

Actually, I'm discussing your myopia, Whottt. I really don't care about the situation itself, but the idiocy that surrounds it.


It sounds to me like you are using your right to free speech to criticize me for using my right to free speech to criticize her for comments made using her right to free speech...


If she wasn't there I wouldn't be talking about it....and don't act like I am the only one discussing it....


You made one valid point in all of this and that the role the media plays in it...freedom of the Press...

But she is using her sons death to achieve an objective that is the antithesis of the objective in which he gave his life...and it's fucking wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

Great, now we probably have to sit through a speech from her at the next Democratic Convention. Well, that's show biz....

[JohnnyMarzetti]

But she is using her sons death to achieve an objective that is the antithesis of the objective in which he gave his life...and it's fucking wrong.

Huh? Didn't he die for her right to speak out?

Stop spinning the facts.

[whottt]

Huh? Didn't he die for her right to speak out?

Stop spinning the facts.


Who is spinning?

Yes he died for her right to speak out...

He did not die for her to use his death as propaganda for an anti-war protest.

[mookie2001]

iraq was going to take away our right to free speech?
i thought patriot acts did that.

[whottt]

youre right about the presidents, but i thought leftoleftistleftys were afraid of war


You are kidding right?

The Democrats have gotten us into every major war in our country's history...prior to this one(in which we were actually attacked on our soil) and the Civil war(in which they were basically the pro slavery and secessionist opponent that was declared war upon)...they are the ones that nuked Japan's ass.

The Democrats used to be a decent party....it's only now that they have become a pro terrorist fringe group(well except for that starting the KKK thing)...


My point is to point out the hypocrisy and ignorance of those calling themselves Democrats these days, when they are so quick to go to the war monger and racist card on Republicans....

[mookie2001]

Oh
im dumb
i just listen to sean hannity and woai all day and they said that liberals were girly men who were afraid of war and would let anyone attack us because theyre antiamerican

[jochhejaam]

I thinks its a excuse also. Sometimes leaders have to deal with things they don't always agree with. Just because he talks to her doesn't mean he has to talk to every jackass out there.

If he spends some time with her the next to show-up and demand his time won't have as much power to do so because the media will have moved on to the next great thing and this Sheehan movement will have been over and done with.

Again I don't agree with how she is going about this but as a leader he has to make time to address the average pissed off Joe.

Lets say you have 100 pissed off employees that are mad for the same reasons. The leader of you employees demands answers. The owner of this company then addresses the leaders as best as he could which in turn quites the leader down. Then yes, some people will still be mad but that doesn't mean the flood gates are open for this owner to talk to every individual person. Society may be stupid but I don't think the general public expects for him to deal with everyone if he deals with her.

Now everyone is pissed he is ignoring her more than they are pissed for the reasons she's there. He should have address this right up front that would have earned him far more respect than doing nothing. I don't agree with her but I really don't agree with how she is being handled.

All good Americans are crushed by the loss of out troops but this charade in Crawford isn't about a mother wanting to "know why her son had to die". Sheehan represents and is represented by the lunatic left and Bush doesn't owe them the time of day! This is in NO WAY a grieving mother seeking closure on the tragic/heroic death of her son. This request for a face-to-face is from a God-less, anti-american faction that is hell bent on having every aspect and vestige of righteousness and morality wiped off the face of the earth. A hero and a zero in the same family you just never know!


President Bush: "Not on my watch"!

[jochhejaam]

[QUOTE=jochhejaam]Sheehan represents and is represented by the lunatic left and Bush doesn't owe them the time of day![QUOTE]

Sheehan has been turned into a puppet by the lunatic left. I don't see that it was her intention to represent them when she demanded Bush's time. Extremist robbed this distraught lady's protest for their own greedy reasons. Now they control her every move like Bobby controls Whitney. I've said it before I don't agree with everything she is doing but she's only left with one option now and thats take this as far as she can because if she doesn't there is nothing left for her. It's really very sad.


I agree.