Wow...Cantor loses the primary...

[CosmicCowboy]

Outspent the tea party guy by a huge margin and still lost...this is virtually unprecedented.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-na-pn-cantor-loses-to-tea-party-challenger-20140610-story.html

[CosmicCowboy]

What a mess.

Immigration reform virtually dead.

Obama and Justice department not enforcing existing law.

Illegal immigrants storming the southern border anticipating amnesty.

what a clusterfuck.

[CosmicCowboy]

Funny thing is, this isn't just a Republican thing.

#1 issue was being willing to compromise on immigration reform and it killed Cantor.

I don't think Washington has any idea just how unpopular amnesty is with the average voter, Democrat or Republican.

[Th'Pusher]

Funny thing is, this isn't just a Republican thing.

#1 issue was being willing to compromise on immigration reform and it killed Cantor.

I don't think Washington has any idea just how unpopular amnesty is with the average voter, Democrat or Republican.

Umm. You might want to check this out:
http://publicreligion.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Final-Immigration-Survey.pdf

[boutons_deux]

What a mess.

Immigration reform virtually dead.

Obama and Justice department not enforcing existing law.

Illegal immigrants storming the southern border anticipating amnesty.

what a clusterfuck.

immigration totally dead, has always been because the xenophobic tea baggers HATE foreigners, need some poor fucks poorer than themselves to look down on. Repugs pander to xenophobes.

Obama has deported 100Ks more than yout buddy dubya did.

and the Repugs did NOTHING on imm ref when they controlled all 3 branches for years. (Repug businessmen love their profits from exploiting undoc immigrants)

Majority of U.S.—GOP voters, too—support pathway to citizenship

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/us-gop-support-illegal-immigrants-pathway-citizenship

[Wild Cobra]

Umm. You might want to check this out:
http://publicreligion.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Final-Immigration-Survey.pdf
It sure would be neighborly of you to point out a paragraph, page, or other reference.

Sixty-two pages of information overload is just being an ass.

[Wild Cobra]

And people say the Tea Party is dead...

[Wild Cobra]

immigration totally dead, has always been because the xenophobic tea baggers HATE foreigners, need some poor fucks poorer than themselves to look down on. Repugs pander to xenophobes.

Obama has deported 100Ks more than yout buddy dubya did.

and the Repugs did NOTHING on imm ref when they controlled all 3 branches for years. (Repug businessmen love their profits from exploiting undoc immigrants)

Majority of U.S.—GOP voters, too—support pathway to citizenship

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/us-gop-support-illegal-immigrants-pathway-citizenship

Well, I am always skeptical when a news source reports such things. It doesn't ring true, and they don't show the actual questions, or lead up question. Then... worse yet... it's MSNBC...

[Wild Cobra]

Allow them a way to become citizens provided they meet certain requirements

Here's the $64 million dollar question.

What are these certain requirements? We all have our own view of when this changes from NO to YES.

[boutons_deux]

"Well, I am always skeptical when a news source reports such things."

... "that clash with my rigid, blind ideology".

here, bitch, be slapped by REPUG polling org:

Voters Across the Political Spectrum Support Immigration Reform


[1] This survey was conducted by Democratic polling firm Global Strategy Group and Republican polling firm Basswood Research among 1,000 likely general election voters nationwide between February 3rd and February 5th, 2014, including an oversample of 200 additional Republican voters. The margin of error at the 95% confidence level is+/- 3.8 percentage points.

http://www.fwd.us/poll_support_immigration_reform

[Wild Cobra]

I support immigration reform also, but then that depends of what's in it.

The phrase "immigration reform" is meaningless without a clear definition.

Do we have to vote for immigration reform to see what's in it?

[angrydude]

Obama has deported 100Ks more than yout buddy dubya did.



You know Obama is fudging the numbers on his deportations don't you? Like in the Wire. Of course you did. lol

He's calling things deportations that previously wouldn't have been.

Here's a far right wing source with the information. Obama's DHS chief.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/12/deportations-come-mostly-from-border-dhs-chief-say/?page=all


“Under the Obama administration, more than half of those removals that were attributed to ICE are actually a result of Border Patrol arrests that wouldn’t have been counted in prior administrations,” said Rep. John Culberson, Texas Republican.
“Correct,” Mr. Johnson confirmed.

[boutons_deux]

A New Ayn Rand Nutjob Goes to Washington? The Scary Economic Thinking of Dave Brat

Meet Tea Party activist Dave Brat, who surfed to political center stage on an anti-immigration wave and aims to bring his special brand of economic hokum to the nation’s capital. Brat, you’ll be delighted to hear, is an economics professor at Randolph-Macon College who counts the fantastically nutty Ayn Rand as his intellectual hero.

Not another one! Paul Ryan was about as much Randian baloney as we could swallow. But there could be another course coming: As Samantha Lachman reported, the Professor gets dough from the banking sector to push Rand’s libertarian nonsense on college students: “Brat has taught classes for a program sponsored by BB&T bank that aims to spread (http://www.popecenter.org/commentaries/article.html?id=2735#.U5es7lhdXIU) Ayn Rand's principles to college students. Brat got a $500,000 grant from the bank to bring the program to Randolph-Macon College and co-authored a paper titled ‘An Analysis of the Moral Foundations in Ayn Rand.’”

We tried to find that paper, which was "presented and published in the proceedings of Southeast Informs, Myrtle Beach, SC, October 6, 2010," but that publishing venue evidently doesn't quite make the cut for Google scholar and JSTOR, so we can only guess at its contents.

But looking over Professor Brat’s faculty page (http://faculty.rmc.edu/dbrat/research.html), you get the sense of his, um, intellectual perspective. A sample:

“God and Advanced Mammon – Can Theological Types Handle Usury and Capitalism?”

No, we did not make that up. Brat actually attended PrincetonTheological Seminary at one time, which is known to be a rightwing hotbed. The moral gymanstics required to defend usuary from a Christian point of view are not too much for Professor Brat. (http://www.questia.com/read/1P3-2321649691/god-and-advanced-mammon-can-theological-types-handle)

As the Wall Street Journal reports (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/06/11/david-brats-writings-hitlers-rise-could-all-happen-again/), Brat has also mused on the need for a church model that fully supports capitalism, warning that if we don't get on that, a new Hitler will surely rise.

America’s big banks and corporate giants are always ready to fund college professors who are willing to embrace discredited economic theories that support their power. That is why BB&T kicked off its program “The Moral Foundations of Capitalism.” As John Allison, former chairman of BB&T’s board and champion of education privatization, helpfully explains:

“About twelve years ago we re-examined our charitable giving and realized that our contributions to universities were not typically being used in our shareholders’ best interest. At the same time, we were studying the question of why the United States had moved from the land of “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” to the “redistributive state.” We became convinced that the reason for this transformation was that the Left had taken over the universities and educated future leaders, including teachers, in statist/collectivist ideas.

A related question occurred to us. Why do free-market principles, which by any objective analysis have won the intellectual argument, continue to be dismissed by most intellectuals? We concluded that the free market economic arguments were routinely defeated by moral arguments, and those were primarily focused on the distribution of wealth.

Furthermore, BB&T has used the fundamental ethics expressed in Ayn Rand’s philosophy of Objectivism in very successfully growing our business, and we wanted Rand’s ideas to be heard in the academic community.”

In order to spread Randian nuttery, BB&T has sponsored 68 programs “at most of the major universities in our operating area.” The reading list usually features Atlas Shrugged. The size of the money pile depends on how vigorously universities agree to promote the quackery, ranging from $500,000 to $2,000,000.

...

http://www.alternet.org/economy/ayn-rand-and-dave-brat

Like ALL libertarians/tea baggers, Brat is nothing but a paid tool of the VRWC.

[angrydude]

That would mean that in a one-to-one comparison with the final years of the Bush administration, deportations of those same people under Mr. Obama had actually fallen, according to immigration analysts who have studied the data.

[Winehole23]

To Cantor’s millions, Brat raised only $200,000, and spent even less, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

[ElNono]

Funny thing is, this isn't just a Republican thing.

#1 issue was being willing to compromise on immigration reform and it killed Cantor.

I don't think Washington has any idea just how unpopular amnesty is with the average voter, Democrat or Republican.

Never been a fan of amnesty myself, but reducing immigration reform to amnesty is misguided...

There are other aspects that are needed, like securing our borders. There's also other broader policies like temporary work visas/expanding the pool of H1B visas that are obvious attempts to try to bring in cheap labor, and that's a bigger issue than amnesty, IMO.

The status quo hasn't worked, that much is clear. This is something that will need to be tackled at one point or another.

[boutons_deux]

"like securing our borders"

and it still is porous at as right-winger's brain

Border Security Costs Taxpayers $12 Billion

U.S. taxpayers will fork over $12 billion for border security this year. That’s the cost of room and board for 250,000 college students, 4 million iPads, 300 million frozen meals, 13 major sports teams and franchises, Shell’s debt on Iranian oil, a B-2 bomber, and the cure for Lou Gehrig’s disease. Why is protecting the perimeter so pricey?

Illegal immigration affects the safety, security, and welfare of the United States and its citizens. Backers of beefy border spending contend that illegals gobble up American jobs, flood American streets with drugs, and take violent crime to another level. Others believe that illegal immigrants do more good than harm through their low-cost labor, consumption of goods and services, and tax contributions.

But where do those billions go?

In 2012, the U.S. patrolled 5,000 miles of the Canadian border and 1,900 of the Mexican border, processed 350 million travelers and 30.04 million trade entries, seized 23,000 violations of intellectual property rights, $1.2 billion in counterfeit goods and 4.2 million pounds of narcotics, and apprehended 365,000 undocumented immigrants.

About 70 percent of the $12 billion is spent on inspections and trade facilitation at or between ports of entry and administration, with 14 percent going to mandatory fees. Is the investment worth the return? U.S. Customs and Border Protection believes so. Officials say that as a result of increased enforcement, fewer people are attempting to illegally cross the border.

Taxpayers may disagree.

http://ivn.us/2013/08/05/border-security-costs-taxpayers-12-billion-2/

Do you think $50B/year would do it? Remember, Repugs say "We're broke". Repugs won't even finance the VA.

[m>s]

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/06/11/issa-this-flood-is-going-to-mean-children-dying-trying-to-get-in-due-to-obamas-dream-act/

[boutons_deux]

MORNING AFTER TEA PARTY WIN, HOUSE G.O.P. PROPOSES END TO SOCIAL SECURITY, RETURN TO CHILD LABOR, GUN RIGHTS FOR PETS

The morning after Tuesday’s stunning Tea Party victory in Virginia, House Republicans unveiled a sweeping new legislative agenda, proposing an end to Social Security, a return to child labor, and unprecedented gun rights for pets.

“The Republican Party is the party of common sense,” said House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio). “And such common-sense proposals as electronic ankle bracelets for immigrant babies and a barbed-wire fence with Canada are long overdue.”

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisconsin) echoed Speaker Boehner’s sentiments as he touted his signature legislation, “to put Americans under the age of twelve back to work.”

“Instead of spending all day playing with Xboxes, our kids should be in factories assembling them,” he said.

As for what is perhaps the most controversial G.O.P. proposal, guaranteeing gun rights for pets, Boehner said, “It’s clear that the authors of the Second Amendment meant it to apply to all mammals.

All our new law says is, if you have four legs and a tail, you get a gun.”

When asked about future relations between House Republicans and President Obama, Boehner did not mince words.

“If the President thinks he’s going to get the kind of cooperation and flexibility he’s gotten out of us for the past six years, he’s kidding himself,” he said. “The honeymoon is over.”

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2014/06/morning-after-tea-party-win-house-gop-proposes-end-to-social-security-return-to-child-labor.html?utm_source=tny&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=borowitz&mbid=nl_Borowitz%20(81)

[Wild Cobra]

LOL...

New Yorker.

LOL...

[boutons_deux]

VIRGINIANS CHOOSE EVEN BIGGER TOOL

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/cantor-580.jpg

In a development that few had thought possible, Republicans in the Seventh District of Virginia on Tuesday night found an even bigger tool than Rep. Eric Cantor to represent them in the United States Congress.

Apparently deciding that Cantor was insufficiently heartless to represent their district, Republicans turned out to the polls to elect David Brat, a man whose political views “border on sociopathy,” according to exit-poll responses from voters who supported him.

During his concession speech, Rep.

Cantor reflected on the mistakes that might have led to his defeat:

“Should I have cut more school-lunch programs for poor children? Perhaps.

Should I have cast more votes to screw over disaster victims? Definitely.

Should I have not said the thing about treating children of immigrants like human beings? Man, do I wish I could take that one back.

Hindsight is twenty-twenty, but at the end of the day I was just too damn empathic for this district.”

But Rep. Cantor was gracious in defeat, offering words of congratulation to the victorious Mr. Brat. “The people of the Seventh District have spoken,” he said. “The time has come to pass the torch to a new generation of asshats.”

When asked about the defeat of his longtime colleague in the House, Speaker John Boehner said, “I will give a formal statement as soon as I can stop laughing.”

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2014/06/virginians-choose-even-bigger-tool.html

[angrydude]

I think Obama's policy of perpetual unemployment is much better for the poor. What a nice guy.

[Wild Cobra]

I think Obama's policy of perpetual unemployment is much better for the poor. What a nice guy.

Yep.

He has reduced their expectations even more!

[boutons_deux]

I think Obama's policy of perpetual unemployment is much better for the poor. What a nice guy.

Obama's way-too-small, Repug-limited stimulus was extremely helpful, as far it went.

Repugs have made all mention of further stimulus a non-starter.

[Nbadan]

Krugman: Corporate shock over the defeat of Cantor.
The Corporates and the Crazies


Jeremy Peters and Shaila Dewan write about corporate shock over the sudden fall of Eric Cantor; it’s further confirmation of the story I told in my last column. Corporations and plutocrats had a good deal going: they bankrolled politicians who talked cultural populism during campaigns, but more or less ignored all that and focused on tax cuts and deregulation after the polls closed. And Cantor fit that profile perfectly.

But now the big money has lost control; the base is demanding politicians who don’t just talk the crazy talk, but walk the crazy walk. For a couple of months the story line was that the money was regaining control, but between Cantor and Cochran that narrative has been blown out of the water.

What’s unclear is what comes next. By pivoting so hard to the GOP, the money has lost much of its leverage over the Democrats — yes, there’s Andrew Cuomo and people like him, but it’s not the same as once it was.

How bad is it? So bad that some establishment Republicans — which means people who work for the corporate side — are pining for another run by, yes, Mitt Romney.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/06/15/the-corporates-and-the-crazies/

If corporate republicans are thinking about turning back to romney, you know things are bad.

[RandomGuy]

It sure would be neighborly of you to point out a paragraph, page, or other reference.

Sixty-two pages of information overload is just being an ass.

Americans want amnesty and a path to citizenship, directly contradicting Cowboy's claim about how unpopular that is "with voters"

It is in the first page of the executive summary.

Lazy, lazy, lazy.

[m>s]

"American swamy amnesty"

LOL smh cuck

[boutons_deux]

Americans want amnesty and a path to citizenship

but the Repugs don't GAF what Americans want.

I'll post later that several red states poll has heavily supporting the new EPA CO2 rules, but their Repug politicians are try to kill the EPA (rules).