Calling out all LeBron nut huggers, the jig is up.

[313]

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:downspin::lol:toast

[Clipper Nation]

Proof positive that Kang has never been carried by stacked teams like DK and Kirby have :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

Clipper Nation should be checking in momentarily :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

he beat me to it :lmao

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Proof positive that Kang has never been carried by stacked teams like DK and Kirby have :lol

You might want to take a look at Chicago's PPG breakdown before you make a statement like that.

Chicago was a defensive-minded team... the only players that were offense-oriented was Jordan, Pippen, Kukoc, and Kerr... Kerr didn't even get that much playing time, and although Rodman can shoot, he averaged about 2 shots per game... he was there for rebounds..

It's not MJ's fault he is superior to LeBron in scoring and overall game.. I do like LeBron though. He has won me over this playoffs.. definitely the greatest player in our league today... not the must clutch, though.

[Buddy Mignon]

That's cold hard proof that players get worse when playing with him. Hell, one player moved to play with James and now his sexuality is in question.:lol

[Clipper Nation]

You might want to take a look at Chicago's PPG breakdown before you make a statement like that.

Chicago was a defensive-minded team... the only players that were offense-oriented was Jordan, Pippen, Kukoc, and Kerr... Kerr didn't even get that much playing time, and although Rodman can shoot, he averaged about 2 shots per game... he was there for rebounds..

It's not MJ's fault he is superior to LeBron in scoring and overall game.. I do like LeBron though. He has won me over this playoffs.. definitely the greatest player in our league today... not the must clutch, though.
182-228 all-time without PippenPERIOD :lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

182-228 all-time without PippenPERIOD :lol

Pippen is one of the greatest 25 players of all time.

How many years did Pippen get to the finals without MJ?

[lefty]

Proof positive that Kang has never been carried by stacked teams like DK and Kirby have :lol
the bulls were stacked ?

[313]

That's cold hard proof that players get worse when playing with him. Hell, one player moved to play with James and now his sexuality is in question.:lol

:lmao

[spurraider21]

Pippen is one of the greatest 25 players of all time.

How many years did Pippen get to the finals without MJ?
About the same as MJ without pippen tbh

[lakerhaterade]

That's cold hard proof that players get worse when playing with him. Hell, one player moved to play with James and now his sexuality is in question.:lol
Prime Lakaluva tbh

[TDMVPDPOY]

pippen top25 all time? wtf u smoking?

[lakaluva's wallet]

Clip yer **** not accounting how Pippen didn't become Pippen until his 3rd year in the league.

[Mnky]

About the same as MJ without pippen tbh

:toast

[lakaluva's wallet]

About the same as MJ without pippen tbh
And LeBron needed a Prime Wade AND Bosh just to get one ring.

[spurraider21]

And LeBron needed a Prime Wade AND Bosh just to get one ring.
LeBron averaged 28.6, 10.2, and 7.4 in the 2012 finals, 22.6, 6.0, and 5.2.

Prime Wade would have put up 27+ in a fast paced series

[lakaluva's wallet]

LeBron averaged 28.6, 10.2, and 7.4 in the 2012 finals, 22.6, 6.0, and 5.2.

Prime Wade would have put up 27+ in a fast paced series
2011 Wade put up 26.5 ppg, 7 rbds and 5 assists against Dallas. Yet LeBron lost.

[spurraider21]

2011 Wade put up 26.5 ppg, 7 rbds and 5 assists against Dallas. Yet LeBron lost.
you said lebron needed prime wade to win. lebron didn't have prime wade when he won in '12 and '13

[lakaluva's wallet]

you said lebron needed prime wade to win. lebron didn't have prime wade when he won in '12 and '13
11 Wade was prime wade, they would have won had LeBron's balls not shriveled up and got outplayed by Chris Bosh. In '12, the Thunder were no challenge at all and Wade still put up 22.6, 6 and 5. In 13', I'm sure we don't have to go over the bailout.

[spurraider21]

11 Wade was prime wade, they would have won had LeBron's balls not shriveled up and got outplayed by Chris Bosh. In '12, the Thunder were no challenge at all and Wade still put up 22.6, 6 and 5. In 13', I'm sure we don't have to go over the bailout.
:lol stop dancing around. you said lebron needed prime wade to win a ring, yet lebron has won 2 rings, neither of which were with prime wade

[StrengthAndHonor]

Lebron didn't need anyone in their prime to win his championships, but his teammates tremendous value are overlooked.

[lakaluva's wallet]

:lol stop dancing around. you said lebron needed prime wade to win a ring, yet lebron has won 2 rings, neither of which were with prime wade
You can't answer why LeBron couldn't win with a prime Wade can you?

[Clipper Nation]

:lol stop dancing around. you said lebron needed prime wade to win a ring, yet lebron has won 2 rings, neither of which were with prime wade

:lol Taylor finally using his Philo-ing for good

[lakaluva's wallet]

:lol Taylor finally using his Philo-ing for good
Do you have an original opinion?

[Koolaid_Man]

Lebron didn't need anyone in their prime to win his championships, but his teammates tremendous value are overlooked.

I guess that's why he decided to stay in Cleveland after all. :hat

[lakaluva's wallet]

I guess that's why he decided to stay in Cleveland after all. :hat
lol

[spurraider21]

You can't answer why LeBron couldn't win with a prime Wade can you?
so he didn't win with prime wade, and yet he's won 2 without prime wade. what are we supposed to make of this? :lol

[spurraider21]

:lol Taylor finally using his Philo-ing for good
not really, i'm a bit more neutral on lebron than most here. i'm not hanging by his jockstrap like you, but i'm not dumb enough to make claims about how "he's not that great." it depends on who i'm talking to. my friends who are mostly kobe fans think i'm on lebron's nuts because i assert that he's better than kirby :lol, but just because i dont think he's established himself as goat, people like you think i'm an irrational hater

[lakaluva's wallet]

so he didn't win with prime wade, and yet he's won 2 without prime wade. what are we supposed to make of this? :lol
By beating Durant who had no chance and getting bailed out by Allen because of his shitty performance? Sounds right.

[spurraider21]

By beating Durant who had no chance
why did he have no chance? is it perhaps because he was up against LeBron? the only player in the league better than him

and getting bailed out by Allen because of his shitty performance? Sounds right.
yeah, i've been back and forth with CN on this one. lebron's overall 4th quarter in that game was remarkable, he was a wrecking ball and willed the heat back. but he did choke pretty hard in the last 90 seconds or so. still, he was the best player over the duration of the series and was a monster in game 7.

[lakaluva's wallet]

why did he have no chance? is it perhaps because he was up against LeBron? the only player in the league better than him


No, Durant can easily be shut down by average sized two guards. He got bullied because he has no post game, and is too skinny. Then you had Harden choking. That team had no chance.

[spurraider21]

No, Durant can easily be shut down by average sized two guards. He got bullied because he has no post game, and is too skinny. Then you had Harden choking. That team had no chance.
actually, durant didn't get shut down... he was the leading scorer in the series and shot over 50% from the field. lebron's all around game thwarted it though... his scoring led his team but he also averaged 7 assists

[lakaluva's wallet]

actually, durant didn't get shut down... he was the leading scorer in the series and shot over 50% from the field. lebron's all around game thwarted it though... his scoring led his team but he also averaged 7 assists
Durant's shooting should have won at least 2 games. Him getting bullied on defense didn't help.

[spurraider21]

Durant's shooting should have won at least 2 games. Him getting bullied on defense didn't help.
so first you say Durant had no chance, now you say ":cry should have won at least 2 games :cry"

[lakaluva's wallet]

so first you say Durant had no chance, now you say ":cry should have won at least 2 games :cry"
Yes, he had no chance of winning the series. His shooting didn't win two games because he kept getting bullied on defense.

[~O~]

Pippen is one of the greatest 25 players of all time.

How many years did Pippen get to the finals without MJ?


You're point is what everyone should conclude about this entire feud. You can't do it without your teammates. So in a sense, everyone played a role and the most invisible role in the NBA is defense.

[spurraider21]

Yes, he had no chance of winning the series, dipshit.
alright so i've lost your train of thought. we are establishing that lebron won without prime wade, even though you've said he needed prime wade to win.

acknowledge

[lakaluva's wallet]

alright so i've lost your train of thought. we are establishing that lebron won without prime wade, even though you've said he needed prime wade to win.

acknowledge
I guess I should have broken it down for you. LeBron did not have a chance at a ring until he teamed up with a prime Wade. (See. the Boston ass whoopings). 2011 was a win for Miami. He gave it back. He couldn't beat Dirk, but easily beats Durant. Why is that? LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Chalmers, and Battier, in terms of PPG, outscored Durant, Westbrook, Harden, (Three stars) and Ibaka 87.8 PPG to 77. Then rebounds 29 to 21. They were simply outmatched just by those 5 guys. Rebounding and defense killed OKC, and that is why they had no chance. No one could rebound or play defense. They had no perimeter players like the Spurs have with Kawhi and the Mavs had with Marion and Stevenson to stop LeBron. Nor did they have any legit post threats. Easy win. LeBron struggles with defensive wings.

[spurraider21]

but you acknowledge that lebron has 2 rings without prime wade? if your answer is anything other than "yes" or "no" im not interested

[lakaluva's wallet]

but you acknowledge that lebron has 2 rings without prime wade? if your answer is anything other than "yes" or "no" im not interested
Nope.

[spurraider21]

:rollin stumped.

sometimes the best way to win an argument is just to ask really simple questions

[hater]

stupid thread :lol

Bosh would start on 95% of NBA team. Same thing with Wade :lol

[ImDaNuts]

Pippen should of made it to the NBA Finals with the Jailblazers too tbh

reaching the playoffs 16 straight years (11 with Chicago, 1 with Houston, 4 with Portland), and he still leads the NBA in career playoff steals, with 395.

[Clipper Nation]

:rollin stumped.

sometimes the best way to win an argument is just to ask really simple questions
To be fair, the guy has zero original takes.... once he runs out of 2011 Skip Bayless talking points to parrot, he's got nothing left :lol

[spurraider21]

To be fair, the guy has zero original takes.... once he runs out of 2011 Skip Bayless talking points to parrot, he's got nothing left :lol
well, to be fair your only takes are:
-legoat
-MJ = DK :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse
-Kirby :downspin:
-choke paul