Still miss Gary Neal? [Archive] - SpursTalk.com Forums

ShoogarBear

06-12-2014, 10:41 PM

I'd take Bellineli's ball handling, playmaking and bad D over Neal's even worse D and shot chucking.

In December, sure.

In June, not so much.

poop

06-12-2014, 10:43 PM

He was vastly more effective than belenelli

Raven

06-12-2014, 10:43 PM

Over Belinelli? Yes.

truthicbm

dg7md

06-12-2014, 10:44 PM

Over Belinelli? Yes.

Raven

06-12-2014, 10:44 PM

I'd take Bellineli's ball handling, playmaking and bad D over Neal's even worse D and shot chucking.

that's coz you're retarded and can't admit that you were wrong.

timtonymanu

06-12-2014, 10:44 PM

I'm sure everyone feels Patty is superior to Neal. I've only said Belinelli was worse than him.

MI21

06-12-2014, 10:45 PM

Patty has surprised the fuck out of me. Huge, huge fan of him but I didn't think he had this in him in the NBA finals. Watching him pester LeBron on defense and knock down 3's is just amazing.

Capt Bringdown

06-12-2014, 10:46 PM

Patty > Neal
Neal > Marco

Boomersgold

06-12-2014, 10:46 PM

that's coz you're retarded and can't admit that you were wrong.
You've got me confused with someone else, man. My opinion's always been that they both suck. :lol Gary Neal was fearless on offense, but some of the shots that he took.......:bang

Cklbmk

06-12-2014, 10:47 PM

I think its safe to say that I'm very happy Gary Neal isn't a Spur still.

I can't remember a time Patty Mills has made me facepalm and I can't remember a time Gary Neal hasn't made me facepalm.

Raven

06-12-2014, 10:47 PM

You've got me confused with someone else, man. My opinion's always been that they both suck. :lol Gary Neal was fearless on offense, but some of the shots that he took.......:bang

no i did not.

ShoogarBear

06-12-2014, 10:48 PM

Somebody wrote an article (I'm sure it was probably posted in here) that Patty is to 2014 as JJ Barea was to 2011. Much as I hate that little rat-face, it's true.

Capt Bringdown

06-12-2014, 10:48 PM

But really, who cares?
Patty is a natural fit on this team with his hustle and determination. Dude's solid.

Brunodf

06-12-2014, 10:53 PM

Gary was useful in the finals last year, I forgot belinelli was even on the team until garbage time
Yeah, Heat fans/players loved him

Trill Clinton

06-12-2014, 10:54 PM

http://i59.tinypic.com/jrtawy.jpg

Nero5

06-12-2014, 10:59 PM

I think there is no comparison as far as team harmony and public perception. Mills is a great team player.

capek

06-12-2014, 11:01 PM

Over Belinelli? Yes.

Come on with that. Neal's absence opened up space for a guy like Patty to get more playing time, and have a larger role available to step into. If Neal was still here, he would have taken most of those minutes by default, his shitty defense would still be a nightly issue this team had to deal with, and on and on. I don't miss Neal in the least, even though I really liked him when he was on the team.

DarrinS

06-12-2014, 11:01 PM

Fuck Gary Neal.

cd021

06-12-2014, 11:12 PM

Gary was useful in the finals last year, I forgot belinelli was even on the team until garbage time

outside of game 3 he was a trainwreck. Neal and Joseph were trainwrecks, Splitter too. Now Tiago and Mills are playing like studs.

cd021

06-12-2014, 11:14 PM

Patty > Neal
Neal > Marco
Beli production this run is definitely better than Neals '13 postseason.

Baam

06-12-2014, 11:15 PM

Beli production this run is definitely better than Neals '13 postseason.

:lol

DesignatedT

06-12-2014, 11:15 PM

Umm no. Belinelli or no belinelli. Neal would just eat into the minutes of others. He's not the great teammate sit on the bench all game every game type.

Boomersgold

06-13-2014, 12:10 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUDEEBgvvo4

Patty fits the system perfectly. None of his shots were forced, ala Gary Neal.

DieHardSpursFan1537

06-13-2014, 12:15 AM

Patty Mills has been a good replacement this year

$pursDynasty

06-13-2014, 12:16 AM

Yes, I would rather have him than Belli, especially if Patty bolts next year, Gary would be MUCH better replacement than Belli.

Johnny RIngo

06-13-2014, 12:23 AM

bigfan

06-13-2014, 12:28 AM

Marco has only been here a year, he will improve. The guy has the talent.

Johnny RIngo

06-13-2014, 12:30 AM

Marco has only been here a year, he will improve. The guy has the talent.

He's Bonner 2.0. Low bball IQ, shitty defense, mentally weak. Regular season stat padder.

Spurminator

06-13-2014, 12:31 AM

Damn, I don't get the Neal hate. Dude had nuts of steel at times. I wouldn't want him as a starter but we've had much worse of-the-bench scorers in the last 15 years than Gary Neal.

ShoogarBear

06-13-2014, 12:37 AM

Neal is still the only Spur to ever hit a win-or-go-home shot in the playoffs.

Juggity

06-13-2014, 12:39 AM

Neal had his flaws on defense, but that dude was clutch as fuck and came up big in big moments. He's not better than Patty, but I would love to have him as a last-resort weapon on offense at the end of the bench.

therealtruth

06-13-2014, 01:07 AM

Beli's a garbage time allstar. He's making sure we have padding on our final margins.

therealtruth

06-13-2014, 01:08 AM

I already said this a few days ago. Win or Lose, Spurs have to move Marco in the off-season. He's another Bonner. Good for inflating regular season numbers but absolute garbage in the playoffs. No coincidence that the only game he played significant minutes in this series is also the game we lost. Fuck him.

Patty's a nice player though. Would like SA to keep him as long as the price isn't too high.

He's already surpassed Bonner with the huge 3 in game 3. It was really huge psychologically. A dagger shot. I don't think the Heat got it to single digits after that. That's a shot Bonner would have never made.

Sean Cagney

06-13-2014, 01:11 AM

Patty is much better, but ya, Belinelli was much inferior to Neal:lol..

Patty is the key here, addition by subtraction with Neal! We get more Patty now so we won. I dont miss Neal at all. Belli is some shit but he doesn't play at all so screw it.

Sean Cagney

06-13-2014, 01:14 AM

He's already surpassed Bonner with the huge 3 in game 3. It was really huge psychologically. A dagger shot. I don't think the Heat got it to single digits after that. That's a shot Bonner would have never made.

Bonner is just utterly worthless, period. I agree there his one shot he made passed that red bozo..... He never did shit here and still got PT.

cd021

06-13-2014, 10:33 PM

:lol

Gary Neal-
Win Share Per 48 Minutes (league average .100)- -0.52
Net Rtg- -6
TS%-50.3%
P.E.R- 9.0

Marco Bellinelli-

TS%-57%
Net Rtg- +3 P.E.R-10.5
Win Share Per 48 minutes- 0.98

don't turn this into another Larry Sanders is better than Tiago Splitter argument.

SpurPadre

06-13-2014, 10:38 PM

He's Bonner 2.0. Low bball IQ, shitty defense, mentally weak. Regular season stat padder.

Bonner doesn't have a low ball IQ, he just has the same athletic capabilities of John Goodman.

unleashbaynes

06-13-2014, 10:39 PM

Nah not really.

but if I ever needed a 3 in a clutch moment I wouldn't mind having Gary shoot.

doobs

06-13-2014, 10:44 PM

The regular season stat padding makes for easier victories which means less reliance on our older than dirt stars. It all adds up. Beli is valuable, and so was Neal.

SpurPadre

06-13-2014, 10:48 PM

Neal sealed his fate when he let a shoeless player hit a three over him. No championship caliber team who saw that travesty would ever take a chance on a player that inept.

DarrinS

06-13-2014, 10:48 PM

Marco has been bad, but he needs this experience. He'll improve.

Neal was clutch, but he was never Spurs material.

tholdren

06-13-2014, 10:48 PM

wow coach nick, like this wasnt something we knew last year? It almost makes me wonder if he has watched the spurs before?

Patty shot better (percentage and eye-test), played better defense, and had overall better advanced stats, he just didnt get many chances to prove how much better he was. This year is was evident from the very beginning he was better, and has a higher ceiling.

this just in, coach nick says tim duncan should not retire due to solid play.

freetiago

06-13-2014, 11:00 PM

Marco is a good reg season player which the Spurs need when Green/Leonard/Ginobili get their month long annual injuries
Neal last year was forced into the PG spot since Joseph/Mills/De Colo weren't good enough to play it
now that Mills is the backup PG it moves everyone into more natural positions

Spurs have 3 2 guards in Green/Manu/Marco and the fisrt 2 will play all the minutes so it forces him out of the rotation
he could still play if they slot him at the 2 and Manu at the 3 with Diaw/Splitter frontline
but Pop is playing Leonard 40ish minutes so he gets the backup 3 spot

I think Marco can still improve
something just happened to him near the end of the reg season where he just looked shook after every game and hasn't recovered

cd021

06-14-2014, 12:14 AM

Bonner doesn't have a low ball IQ, he just has the same athletic capabilities of John Goodman.

He actually has a higher vert than Kawhi and Green, only Ayers and Joseph are more athletic. Ironically all 3 are 3rd stringers.

playblair

07-12-2016, 08:27 PM

During a game against the San Antonio Spurs last season, Neal openly complained about Gregg Popovich, who got rid of Neal after three seasons, on the bench during an actual game. Neal also has been known to recite his statistics and what he shoots from certain spots on the floor better than others who, in his words, weren’t as good as him and making more money.

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/07/12/report-wizards-players-found-gary-neal-to-be-selfish-bad-teammate/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

https://cbswashington.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/gary-neal-facebook.png?w=420&h=290
https://cbswashington.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/gary-neal-twitter-31.png
(http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/07/12/report-wizards-players-found-gary-neal-to-be-selfish-bad-teammate/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

timtonymanu

07-12-2016, 08:35 PM

Dude lost out on a ring after Mills/Belinelli outplayed him the next season. Not surprised dude is bitter. But still :lol Neal

Kikoluna

07-12-2016, 10:32 PM

Man , wish we had him back right now. He would really help the horrible 2nd unit

elemento

07-12-2016, 10:39 PM

Cho Cho mad

Harry Callahan

07-12-2016, 10:41 PM

That was such a wonderful series in 2014 for the Spurs against Miami. Not sure that can ever be duplicated.......Everyone just pulled together and played to their maximum.

I'm gonna watch those games this weekend when I get home. Great memories of the Spurs at the absolute peak efficiency.

Harry Callahan

07-12-2016, 10:43 PM

PS. Don't miss malcontents. Neal went the Steve Jackson route unfortunately.

dabom

07-13-2016, 05:37 AM

Neal deserved a ring.

TrainOfThought5

07-13-2016, 06:50 AM

Neal makes me miss 2013 all over again. When he and Green buried the heat under an avalanche of 3's was a thing of beauty.

TrainOfThought5

07-13-2016, 07:02 AM

Neal makes me miss 2013 all over again. When he and Green buried the heat under an avalanche of 3's was a thing of beauty.

$pursDynasty

07-13-2016, 09:19 AM

I do but am curious what brought this thread back? Patty's emergence mitigated the loss initially but ever since 5, Patty hasn't been the same. He tries but his shot hasn't been the same since the shoulder injury and while he hustles on defense he is far from a good defender. A not on fire Patty is only good to buy your starter minutes on the bench, nothing more. Gary could go NOVA from time to time this team needs that. Especially since we can't count on that from Verde since we rely on him for defense so much now.

jeebus

07-13-2016, 11:01 AM

:lol Choochoo. That rapist was ok the first year he was here then he just turned into a pile of shit. He couldn't dribble a ball to save his life and I don't miss the days where he'd pass half court then pick up his dribble. Terrible teammate, terrible player, a streaky chucker with an ego that would make Kirby jealous...fuck him.

SpurPadre

07-13-2016, 02:08 PM

Mike Miller with no shoe misses him, tbh.

playblair

07-13-2016, 02:36 PM

I do but am curious what brought this thread back?.

read quote previous page neal complained popovich & teammates

Sean Cagney

07-13-2016, 02:40 PM

Neal makes me miss 2013 all over again. When he and Green buried the heat under an avalanche of 3's was a thing of beauty.

Then games 6 and 7 happened and all those threes from them stopped falling :( I don't miss that one bit, the next year was a littttttle better in the end. I don't want to relive that 2013 finals though, especially the last two games.
Mike Miller with no shoe misses him, tbh.

Don't remind me, the nightmare last few games summed up....