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midnightpulp
06-12-2014, 10:55 PM
I was one of FKLA's detractors, but since total system basketball is the new age in the NBA, Lee's stat padding type style is somewhat antiquated. Your forwards these days need to be able to pass, shoot from 3, and post up, and be a general threat in all areas of the game. I don't think Lee can contribute much in the new pace and space NBA. He'll always put up nice stats, but be an overall detriment to the offense.

Exchange Diaw for Lee and the Spurs don't get out of the 1st round.

Props to FKLA for one of the greatest takes of all time. Even I made fun of him for it.

100%duncan
06-12-2014, 10:56 PM
:tu

Venti Quattro
06-12-2014, 10:58 PM
I think I'm gonna admit that I wronged FkLA too. Lee might be potentially better than Diaw but the latter is actually showing why he has a case.

Clipper Nation
06-12-2014, 10:59 PM
I'd still like to see Diaw play well WITHOUT the two best coaches at inflating scrubs' stats (D'Antoni, Popovich) before giving the Diaw slurping much credence, tbh....

Nathan89
06-12-2014, 11:01 PM
The ****** gave one of the greatest takes of all time.. at a time when Diaw was barely coming off a horrific stint in Charlotte and David Lee coming off a 20/10 season.

Fk

He obviously recognized Diaw talent.

Raven
06-12-2014, 11:02 PM
:cry nobody giving me credit :cry

sexinthatsx
06-12-2014, 11:04 PM
I'd still like to see Diaw play well WITHOUT the two best coaches at inflating scrubs' stats (D'Antoni, Popovich) before giving the Diaw slurping much credence, tbh....

Take Pop away and you'll have roughly 12 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists. I'd still take that over 16 points and 9 rebounds tbh

midnightpulp
06-12-2014, 11:05 PM
I'd still like to see Diaw play well WITHOUT the two best coaches at inflating scrubs' stats (D'Antoni, Popovich) before giving the Diaw slurping much credence, tbh....

It's now about what players can do for the overall system rather than how they can dominate individually.

Once Diaw was inserted in the starting lineup, Kawhi suddenly explodes. Teams are more symbiotic than ever.

DAF86
06-12-2014, 11:05 PM
I'd still like to see Diaw play well WITHOUT the two best coaches at inflating scrubs' stats (D'Antoni, Popovich) before giving the Diaw slurping much credence, tbh....

It wasn't the coaches, it was the teams. Diaw is the ultimate good team player. When he plays in a good team he tries. His superior basketball mind checks out when being around low IQ scrubs, tbh.

Brazil
06-12-2014, 11:07 PM
I gave FkLA credit a long time ago tbh

TDMVPDPOY
06-12-2014, 11:08 PM
comparing a guy to a scrub who have never made any impact in the playoffs? this is stupid

blkroadrunners
06-12-2014, 11:09 PM
Maybe he'll be right on Johnny Effing Football as well:downspin:

Franklin
06-12-2014, 11:09 PM
He wrong about "Manu>Dirk" though.

FkLA
06-12-2014, 11:09 PM
:cry nobody giving me credit :cry

This is true. Raven and DAF were right there the whole time too tbh.

RD2191
06-12-2014, 11:10 PM
How is this in any way even debatable?:lol

rogues
06-12-2014, 11:11 PM
I respect the be@ner nigga, tbh..I still don't believe Boris Diaw is this good..he's just playing very fluky, tbh..

DAF86
06-12-2014, 11:13 PM
This is true. Raven and DAF were right there the whole time too tbh.

My nigga. :tu

Raven
06-12-2014, 11:14 PM
I respect the be@ner nigga, tbh..I still don't believe Boris Diaw is this good..he's just playing very fluky, tbh..

he's not even shooting in double figures, what's fluky about that?

sexinthatsx
06-12-2014, 11:14 PM
I respect the be@ner nigga, tbh..I still don't believe Boris Diaw is this good..he's just playing very fluky, tbh..

Hitting a hail mary shot without looking while double teamed with perfect defense and 7-7 fg in the 3rd quarter is fluky to me tbh.

Raven
06-12-2014, 11:15 PM
This is true. Raven and DAF were right there the whole time too tbh.

i'm about to :cry

FkLA
06-12-2014, 11:15 PM
It wasn't the coaches, it was the teams. Diaw is the ultimate good team player. When he plays in a good team he tries. His superior basketball mind checks out when being around low IQ scrubs, tbh.

Yep, Diaw can be lazy/unmotivated on bad teams which I admitted in the original thread.

I don't see how Pops system inflates numbers though. It's easily the best most efficient in the league but it hardly inflates individual numbers.

spurraider21
06-12-2014, 11:16 PM
I respect the be@ner nigga, tbh..I still don't believe Boris Diaw is this good..he's just playing very fluky, tbh..
hope he continues to play fluky. all the way...

DAF86
06-12-2014, 11:19 PM
Yep, Diaw can be lazy/unmotivated on bad teams which I admitted in the original thread.

I don't see how Pops system inflates numbers though. It's easily the best most efficient in the league but it hardly inflates individual numbers.

Yep.

BTW, go Mexico tomorrow, tbh.

Trill Clinton
06-12-2014, 11:21 PM
props to mid for manning up.

Blake
06-12-2014, 11:28 PM
:lol spurs homers out in grey force tonite

FkLA
06-12-2014, 11:31 PM
Yep.

BTW, go Mexico tomorrow, tbh.

:tu

Hoping the Argies do well too.


:lol spurs homers out in grey force tonite

He only had 8 points, Lee would've had 15+!!

Blake
06-12-2014, 11:40 PM
He only had 8 points, Lee would've had 15+!!

right and probably 10 rebounds.

But hey, at least you're starting to get others besides DAF to sit with you on det short bus.

Dick Jones
06-12-2014, 11:42 PM
Rose colored title glasses. Kinda like when Mavs fans overrated the fuck out of JJ Barea after 2011

Robz4000
06-12-2014, 11:43 PM
FkLA :tu

FkLA
06-12-2014, 11:46 PM
right and probably 10 rebounds.

But hey, at least you're starting to get others besides DAF to sit with you on det short bus.

Possibly, but he wouldn't have dished out dimes or stretched the floor. He'd also be the worst defender on the floor at all times.

But hey at least he puts up them stats.

midnightpulp
06-12-2014, 11:47 PM
right and probably 10 rebounds.

But hey, at least you're starting to get others besides DAF to sit with you on det short bus.

Lee would be black hole for this offense. You can't feature him as an important piece in any kind of sophisticated offensive system (unless he changes his game). He might be good in the Duncan role, working off cuts, setting picks, etc, but he'd be too small to be the center in a small ball lineup and get destroyed by top penetrators. He's also not as good of a passer as Duncan, either.

Lee is one of those players who will always be a "star" on a mediocre team where he can put up nice stats. Put him in the Spurs complex offensive scheme, and he doesn't really have the overall skill set to flourish right now.

HI-FI
06-12-2014, 11:48 PM
I never gave that bean3r shit, because he's one of the few independent voices on this shithole. I admired him standing his grounds against the gay mobs.

I've liked Boris since Phoenix so while I like Lee, I know he can't do some of the shit that Diaw does. Props to FkLA and real props to Diaw for putting it all together.

Blake
06-12-2014, 11:51 PM
Possibly, but he wouldn't have dished out dimes

Says who?



But hey at least he puts up them stats.

:cry Boris looks better than Lee. Eye test etcetc:cry

Floyd Pacquiao
06-12-2014, 11:55 PM
Diaw is one of the most unique players in nba history

FkLA
06-12-2014, 11:55 PM
Lee would be black hole for this offense. You can't feature him as an important piece any kind of a sophisticated offensive system (unless he changes his game). He might be good in the Duncan role, working off cuts, setting picks, etc, but he'd be too small to be the center in a small ball lineup and get destroyed by top penetrators. He's also not as good of a passer as Duncan, either.

Lee is one of those players who will always be a "star" on a mediocre team where he can put up nice stats. Put him in the Spurs complex offensive scheme, and he doesn't really have the overall skill set to flourish right now.

:tu

That was always part of my argument. That nigga isn't a prototypical 20-10 guy you run your offense through. He'd be role player on a top team just like Diaw, and in that role Diaw defecates all over him tbh.

FkLA
06-12-2014, 11:59 PM
Says who?



:cry Boris looks better than Lee. Eye test etcetc:cry

You think Lee can impact a game with his passing the way Diaw can? And why don't you comment on Lee's defense or inability to stretch the floor ?

Floyd Pacquiao
06-13-2014, 12:03 AM
Lee would never be able to play point forward. Boris is a fat version of magic Johnson without the aids and a better post game, tbh..

FkLA
06-13-2014, 12:05 AM
Lee would never be able to play point forward. Boris is a fat version of magic Johnson without the aids and a better post game, tbh..

:lol

ElNono
06-13-2014, 12:15 AM
Diaw 3.0 in these here Finals since starting, tbh...

Blake
06-13-2014, 08:08 AM
You think Lee can impact a game with his passing the way Diaw can?

You're moving goalposts


and why don't you comment on Lee's defense or inability to stretch the floor ?

Because that's two things that > Lee does slightly better than Lee.

sook
06-13-2014, 08:57 AM
well done, one of the best passing big men in the NBA :tu

unleashbaynes
06-13-2014, 09:00 AM
You're moving goalposts



Because that's two things that > Lee does slightly better than Lee.

you've been shat on. just save what little dignity you have left and stop posting.

Franklin
06-13-2014, 09:25 AM
Chinks medial even hail him as the "French Magic" tbh, shit sounded even more ridiculous than >Lee in the past but seems more than justified in this series tbh.

Blake
06-13-2014, 09:36 AM
you've been shat on. just save what little dignity you have left and stop posting.

impossible for anyone saying Diaw> Lee to shit on anyone but themselves.

unleashbaynes
06-13-2014, 09:51 AM
Yeah you're right, comparing a one dimensional shooting big to a big that plays both sides of the floor and has handles and vision like a PG is just stupid tbh.

Blake
06-13-2014, 10:02 AM
Yeah you're right, comparing a one dimensional shooting big to a big that plays both sides of the floor and has handles and vision like a PG is just stupid tbh.

Lol Fkla's retard bus is filling up fast.

Can't say it's surprising considering the spurs are about to ring.

FkLA
06-13-2014, 10:45 AM
lol slightly

lol still thinking you have any type of argument

:cry >Lee couldn't hit double figures and he played 36 mins :cry

Blake
06-13-2014, 11:31 AM
lol slightly

lol still thinking you have any type of argument

:cry >Lee couldn't hit double figures and he played 36 mins :cry

I don't need an argument against an obviously retarded take that's based on your :cry eye test :cry

Nothing but lol and smh utsas

Brazil
06-13-2014, 11:38 AM
Blake is an all around terrible poster tbh

He is good at talking shit to SBM on the club but that's about it

Diaw is no contest more valuable for the Spurs than D. Lee would be. Boris most valuable asset is his versatility, he is exactly what Spurs offense needs especially against the heat.
Spurs can play 4 PGs at the same time on the floor, TP, Manu, Mills and Boris that's what is killing Heat trap defense.

Blake
06-13-2014, 11:54 AM
Diaw is no contest more valuable for the Spurs than D. Lee would be.

Prove it.

Brazil
06-13-2014, 11:56 AM
Prove it.

Prove otherwise

unleashbaynes
06-13-2014, 12:02 PM
Blake is an all around terrible poster tbh

He is good at talking shit to SBM on the club but that's about it

Diaw is no contest more valuable for the Spurs than D. Lee would be. Boris most valuable asset is his versatility, he is exactly what Spurs offense needs especially against the heat.
Spurs can play 4 PGs at the same time on the floor, TP, Manu, Mills and Boris that's what is killing Heat trap defense.

He's not even good at talking shit to sbm. Those back and forth between those two are him getting trolled to death by some kid. It's a sad read and really just a sad reality when all you have to resort to is stealing chumpdumper(a pretty lame poster in his own right) schtick.

ChumpDumper
06-13-2014, 01:25 PM
Prove it.It's all conjecture, but the traditional big man lineup with Splitter was pretty much the worst put on this floor against the Heat. considering both Lee and Splitter are effective scorers inside of 3 feet and absolutely nowhere else on the court, it's a fair assumption that a Duncan/Lee combo would have the same offensive struggles the Duncan/Splitter combo has. That combo really seemed like it was always working by the skin of its teeth since it depended on Duncan's being consistent on perimeter offense and Splitter on perimeter D. Doesn't always work and sure as hell doesn't work against Miami.

Lee's a good player but I can only see his replacing Splitter at this point, not Diaw.

FkLA
06-13-2014, 01:37 PM
^Lee has a mid-range shot tbf.

Still though Blake apparently seems to think its coincidence that with Diaw out there lanes are opening up for drives and the passing is so fluid. His argument is basically him implying that everything would stay equal except Lee's 15+ pts and 10 rebs would be better than what Diaw puts up. Its a pretty retarded argument and thats without even taking into consideration what a god awful defender Lee is tbh.

TE
06-13-2014, 01:40 PM
tbh just throwing it out there...this style of ball movement, secondary, third and even fourth motions on offense are a product of Boris's versatility. I'd rather have him than Lee because his versatility and style of play fits the Spurs more.

ChumpDumper
06-13-2014, 01:43 PM
^Lee has a mid-range shot tbf.Not that he would hit over 40% this season. Used to be OK from the elbow.

FkLA
06-13-2014, 01:47 PM
Hmm didnt know he shot that bad from midrange this season. Just makes him even more worthless on the Spurs tbh.

Blake
06-13-2014, 01:59 PM
Prove otherwise

Lee was an all star last year.

Diaw isn't a regular starter.

proof enough for normal, objective people.

Blake
06-13-2014, 02:02 PM
Lee's a good player but I can only see his replacing Splitter at this point, not Diaw.

yeah I see Lee taking Splitter's regular spot in the starting lineup too.

With a very nice role player in Diaw coming off the bench per the usual.

Floyd Pacquiao
06-13-2014, 02:03 PM
^shit argument, that's like saying wade was an allstar this year so he'd be better than manu or green for the spurs

ChumpDumper
06-13-2014, 02:05 PM
yeah I see Lee taking Splitter's regular spot in the starting lineup too.

With a very nice role player in Diaw coming off the bench per the usual.That would depend on matchups. Diaw is averaging more minutes than Splitter for the playoffs regardless.

Blake
06-13-2014, 02:05 PM
^shit argument, that's like saying wade was an allstar this year so he'd be better than manu or green for the spurs

So now we're going with Green> Wade?

smhh.....

Floyd Pacquiao
06-13-2014, 02:06 PM
Lol imagine lee trying to guard dirk or Aldridge

FkLA
06-13-2014, 02:07 PM
:lol What a moron. Do you think the Spurs make it to the Finals with the all-star Lee in place of Splitter as well ?

TE
06-13-2014, 02:08 PM
Lol imagine lee trying to guard dirk or Aldridge
:lmao

Floyd Pacquiao
06-13-2014, 02:08 PM
So now we're going with Green> Wade?

smhh.....
For this spurs team and system hell yeah, wade cant shoot or play defense and his style of play is outdated. also add in the fact that he has a huge ego and would refuse a 6th man role.

Blake
06-13-2014, 02:08 PM
That would depend on matchups. Diaw is averaging more minutes than Splitter for the playoffs regardless.

well Splitter ain't Lee, tbh, so there's no surprise there.

FkLA
06-13-2014, 02:10 PM
well Splitter ain't Lee, tbh, so there's no surprise there.

Do the Spurs sweep everyone on their way to #5 with all-star Lee in place of Splitter ?

ChumpDumper
06-13-2014, 02:10 PM
well Splitter ain't Lee, tbh, so there's no surprise there.Offensively Lee might be an even worse fit.

Blake
06-13-2014, 02:13 PM
Offensively Lee might be an even worse fit.

:cry so might Blake Griffin and Wade :cry

Blake
06-13-2014, 02:15 PM
Lol imagine lee trying to guard dirk or Aldridge


:lmao


David Lee*drew the tough assignment of guarding Aldridge, Portland’s best player and one of the best power forwards in the NBA, holding Aldridge to just 10 points on 2-for-14 shooting, 14.5 points below his season average.*Andrew Bogut*and*Draymond Green*also spent time guarding Aldridge, but Lee was the main disruptor.Although Lee is often*criticized*for his defense, he held Aldridge, who is averaging 24.3 points per game this season, to just 10 points on 2-for-14 shooting.

http://letsgowarriors.com/david-lee-defense-shutting-down-lamarcus-aldridge-and-making-a-bid-for-all-star/2014/01/28/

Retarded homer lols are sad, tbh.

FkLA
06-13-2014, 02:18 PM
http://i.imgur.com/UzcNPmI.jpg

:cry but but he held Aldridge to 10 points that one time :cry

Blake
06-13-2014, 02:18 PM
Do the Spurs sweep everyone on their way to #5 with all-star Lee in place of Splitter ?

If we still have Diaw?

mmmm maybe win an extra game or two somewhere. Probably take out OKC a game sooner.

Blake
06-13-2014, 02:20 PM
[IMG]
:cry but but he held Aldridge to 10 points that one time :cry

Right, that was the point.

You're retarded.

FkLA
06-13-2014, 02:21 PM
If we still have Diaw?

mmmm maybe win an extra game or two somewhere. Probably take out OKC a game sooner.

I agree, defense is worthless.

We wouldve won 10 in a row with JR Smith in place of Bowen back in the day.

TE
06-13-2014, 02:22 PM
Retarded homer lols are sad, tbh.
lol homers

Do you honestly believe Lee would fit with the Spurs better than Diaw?

Floyd Pacquiao
06-13-2014, 02:25 PM
Lol 1 game sample size

FkLA
06-13-2014, 02:26 PM
Right, that was the point.

You're retarded.

Yeah, that one game outweighs his career of poor defense. Definitely proves Lee can guard Aldridge.

Youre smart.

FkLA
06-13-2014, 02:30 PM
Lol 1 game sample size

Im starting to think he is just trolling. The guy cant be this stupid can he? :lol

TE
06-13-2014, 02:31 PM
Im starting to think he is just trolling. The guy cant be this stupid can he? :lol
Trolling imo

Blake
06-13-2014, 02:42 PM
Lol 1 game sample size

Lol your 0 sample size

Blake
06-13-2014, 02:43 PM
Im starting to think he is just trolling. The guy cant be this stupid can he? :lol

Diaw>Lee.

Smh.

You guys are sad homers.

Aztecfan03
06-13-2014, 02:44 PM
right and probably 10 rebounds.

But hey, at least you're starting to get others besides DAF to sit with you on det short bus.

and let Lebron score 50.

Blake
06-13-2014, 02:48 PM
and let Lebron score 50.

true! And we'd lose Diaw's 8 points per game!

good lord :lol

ChumpDumper
06-13-2014, 02:51 PM
:cry so might Blake Griffin and Wade :cryWade would fit the offense quite nicely imo.

Griffin is a franchise player around whom offenses are built. We are currently discussing two role players and their utility in the current Spurs system.

FkLA
06-13-2014, 02:52 PM
The spacing and fluidity of the offense would not change at all! We are just taking 8 ppg and replacing it with 15 ppg and 10 rpg!!

Why cant you homers see this?!

DAF86
06-13-2014, 03:39 PM
Blake getting owned left and right. It's starting to get sad, tbh.

Brazil
06-13-2014, 04:21 PM
Lee was an all star last year.

Diaw isn't a regular starter.

proof enough for normal, objective people.

:lol ok I'm convinced

jjktkk
06-13-2014, 09:27 PM
FLKA with the goods. :tu

Ricky Davis
06-13-2014, 09:32 PM
tbh I can't remember that far back but since I'm a regular FkLA basher, I probably scoffed him for this but even I have to admit DET engineer is looking pretty swole right now imho

Blake
06-13-2014, 09:42 PM
Yeah, that one game outweighs his career of poor defense. Definitely proves Lee can guard Aldridge.

Youre smart.

you're still sitting on a sample size of zero.

You're dumb.

Blake
06-13-2014, 09:43 PM
:lol ok I'm convinced

neat.

Blake
06-13-2014, 09:44 PM
Blake getting owned left and right. It's starting to get sad, tbh.

:cry eye test says Diaw> Lee :cry

Blake
06-13-2014, 09:52 PM
We are currently discussing two role players and their utility in the current Spurs system.

so far all I've seen from homer is "Diaw> Lee in the Spurs system just because"

Are you referring to Lee being a role player?

FkLA
06-13-2014, 10:16 PM
I have a whole season's worth sample size, actually.

Also do you think Lee would be more than a role player on the Spurs? The Heatles? OKC? Even Indy? You actually think he'd be their #1 or #2 don't you? :lol

FkLA
06-13-2014, 10:28 PM
so far all I've seen from homer is "Diaw> Lee in the Spurs system just because"

Give your take on why Lee would have a bigger impact on the Spurs. We've seen what Diaw can do. He's gotten tons of praise from not just 'homers' but media, he won't win it but he's been getting consistently brought up in FMVP conversations.

Blake
06-13-2014, 10:52 PM
I have a whole season's worth sample size, actually.

:cry a whole season of eye test :cry

One game of him defending Aldridge well is all that's needed to show he can do it.


Also do you think Lee would be more than a role player on the Spurs? The Heatles? OKC? Even Indy? You actually think he'd be their #1 or #2 don't you? :lol

yes he'd be more than a role player on the Spurs.

you don't know the definition of a role player, do you.

Blake
06-13-2014, 10:59 PM
Give your take on why Lee would have a bigger impact on the Spurs. We've seen what Diaw can do. He's gotten tons of praise from not just 'homers' but media, he won't win it but he's been getting consistently brought up in FMVP conversations.

Lee beats Diaw in every scoring, rebounding and plus/minus category by a lot. It's a no-brainer that Lee> Diaw.

And now a lot of people are over valuing Diaw because of the highlight reel passes during these blowouts....and that's ok, that'll happen.
But it's really not hard to take a step back and put proper value on these players.

In the end, Diaw> Lee is your ugly baby. Give something more than :cry eye test :cry or it's forever lol Diaw> Lee.

FkLA
06-13-2014, 11:14 PM
Lee beats Diaw in every scoring, rebounding and plus/minus category by a lot. It's a no-brainer that Lee> Diaw.

And now a lot of people are over valuing Diaw because of the highlight reel passes during these blowouts....and that's ok, that'll happen.
But it's really not hard to take a step back and put proper value on these players.

In the end, Diaw> Lee is your ugly baby. Give something more than :cry eye test :cry or it's forever lol Diaw> Lee.

So basically your whole thing is that his stats are cuter? Go into detail about his game and his role on the Spurs, nigga. :lol

FkLA
06-13-2014, 11:16 PM
:cry a whole season of eye test :cry

One game of him defending Aldridge well is all that's needed to show he can do it.



yes he'd be more than a role player on the Spurs.

you don't know the definition of a role player, do you.

That graphic where the whole league shoots 60+% on him is a seasons worth. Not an eye test.

Like I said go into detail about his role and how he would compliment the Big 3? Or how the Big 3 would compliment him since he has gaudiest stats of the bunch. :lol

FkLA
06-13-2014, 11:22 PM
Also are you really going to use +/- against a nigga that is leading that category in the fucking NBA Finals? :lmao

AaronY
06-13-2014, 11:32 PM
Its kind of weird to get all excited over Diaw. He is definitely playing good, but hes a guy if he was dedicated to the game physically and mentally his whole career dude could have been a multiple time all star..so as good as he's done lately still kind of hard not to be underwhelmed at his body of work as a whole since he pretty much underachieved big time all considered

Blake
06-14-2014, 12:16 AM
So basically your whole thing is that his stats are cuter? Go into detail about his game and his role on the Spurs, nigga. :lol

His stats are better. A lot better.

Lee would start at PF/C; Splitter would come off bench.

You're retarded.

Blake
06-14-2014, 12:17 AM
Also are you really going to use +/- against a nigga that is leading that category in the fucking NBA Finals? :lmao

:cry fucking mvp :cry

FkLA
06-14-2014, 02:29 AM
Lee would start at PF/C; Splitter would come off bench.


Ok, we are making progress. :lol

Now would you kindly go into detail about how he would improve the offense? I know for you its as simple as we are replacing Diaw's 8 ppg with Lee's 15-20 ppg but it doesnt work that way, son. Go into detail about his offensive game and how he would compliment/help the rest of the team.

Same for defense. Go into detail about his post, pick n roll and help defense. Show me that your analysis of a player goes beyond just looking at the boxscore.



:cry fucking mvp :cry

better than :cry aldridge stopper for 1 game :cry imo

nice deflection too :tu

FkLA
06-14-2014, 02:32 AM
Its kind of weird to get all excited over Diaw. He is definitely playing good, but hes a guy if he was dedicated to the game physically and mentally his whole career dude could have been a multiple time all star..so as good as he's done lately still kind of hard not to be underwhelmed at his body of work as a whole since he pretty much underachieved big time all considered

Definitely an underachiever and kind of a shame that he didnt end up being more tbh.

Nathan89
06-14-2014, 02:46 AM
Give your take on why Lee would have a bigger impact on the Spurs. We've seen what Diaw can do. He's gotten tons of praise from not just 'homers' but media, he won't win it but he's been getting consistently brought up in FMVP conversations.

Also Lebron has mentioned him and the challenges he present to them because of his versatility.

ChumpDumper
06-14-2014, 03:33 AM
so far all I've seen from homer is "Diaw> Lee in the Spurs system just because"

Are you referring to Lee being a role player?Indeed I am. He's not a franchise player, his playoff stats are merely OK and I wouldn't build an offense around him, so he would be a role player.

Blake
06-14-2014, 02:10 PM
Indeed I am. He's not a franchise player, his playoff stats are merely OK and I wouldn't build an offense around him, so he would be a role player.

He was a franchise player for about a half a year, imo, until Curry busted out. It's why Lee's the highest paid Warrior.

I think there's something between franchise player and role player which is where he's currently at.

FkLA
06-14-2014, 03:08 PM
He was a franchise player for about a half a year, imo, until Curry busted out. It's why Lee's the highest paid Warrior.

I think there's something between franchise player and role player which is where he's currently at.

:lmao :lmao

FkLA
06-14-2014, 03:09 PM
Ok, we are making progress. :lol

Now would you kindly go into detail about how he would improve the offense? I know for you its as simple as we are replacing Diaw's 8 ppg with Lee's 15-20 ppg but it doesnt work that way, son. Go into detail about his offensive game and how he would compliment/help the rest of the team.

Same for defense. Go into detail about his post, pick n roll and help defense. Show me that your analysis of a player goes beyond just looking at the boxscore.




better than :cry aldridge stopper for 1 game :cry imo

nice deflection too :tu

Don't ignore this. Go over his franchise player game.

m>s
06-14-2014, 03:12 PM
Diaw is better for the spurs anyway

blake if you were as focused on personal growth as you are pointless back and forths on the internet your wife wouldn't have been forced into bestiality and left you

unleashbaynes
06-14-2014, 03:53 PM
Diaw is better for the spurs anyway

blake if you were as focused on personal growth as you are pointless back and forths on the internet your wife wouldn't have been forced into bestiality and left you

:lmao

Blake
06-14-2014, 06:11 PM
Don't ignore this. Go over his franchise player game.

The stats speak for themselves.

Lol Diaw> Lee

Blake
06-14-2014, 06:17 PM
Diaw is better for the spurs anyway

he's cheaper, so at this point, yeah.

m>s
06-14-2014, 06:18 PM
diaw is a system player..his strengths fit the spurs system. take money out of the equation and he's still the better fit..not the better individual talent though.

Blake
06-14-2014, 06:33 PM
diaw is a system player..his strengths fit the spurs system. take money out of the equation and he's still the better fit..not the better individual talent though.

I'm sure Pop would tweak the system for Lee.

spurraider21
06-14-2014, 06:43 PM
I'm sure Pop would tweak the system for Lee.
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m09wtjkFJ41rn95k2o1_400.gif

m>s
06-14-2014, 06:48 PM
He's not a good enough player to build around..you don't change a winning system for David lee.

Ricky Davis
06-14-2014, 07:13 PM
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m09wtjkFJ41rn95k2o1_400.gif

:lol

FkLA
06-14-2014, 08:54 PM
lol at Pop tweaking a system that is about to yield a championship

unleashbaynes
06-14-2014, 09:10 PM
lol at Pop tweaking a system that is about to yield a championship

B....b...but....15 ppg!!! :cry

Juggity
06-14-2014, 09:24 PM
http://i.imgur.com/UzcNPmI.jpg


The thread should have ended here tbh...

It would be impossible for a rational person to look at what David Lee provides and think it was better than what Diaw is giving on the highest level right now. He's currently a 2nd-or-3rd leading finals MVP candidate who almost put up a triple double in game 4. Meanwhile David Lee is literally one of the worst defenders in the league and would be next to useless on this spurs team.

FkLA
06-14-2014, 09:32 PM
diaw is a system player..his strengths fit the spurs system. take money out of the equation and he's still the better fit..not the better individual talent though.

I dunno nigga. Contrary to popular belief I don't think Diaw is LeBron nor do I think Lee is some scrub, so I do think the gap in individual talent is smaller...but if we go over their skillsets I still think Diaws well rounded game is bigger than the edge Lee has in scoring/rebounding.

It's not like Lee is an elite one-dimensional player like a Dirk or Love. He's a worse version of Carlos Boozer and we all know Bulls fans have preferred Gibson over him for years despite his cute stats.

Ricky Davis
06-15-2014, 06:09 PM
tbh I don't think anybody knew Diaw would be this good on defense since he never played on a team that valued it. Understandably, there's not much motivation to play good team defense when you're on a D'antoni coached team or some shitty team like the Bobcats where guys are probably too worried about that next paycheck and getting blown by left and right.

Same thing with the passing skills.