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Gino-Step
06-14-2014, 01:09 AM
I don't understand. Can someone break down the argument?

Stephen A Smith thinks DWade is Top 50 All Time....

Parker is drinking wine all the time and while he's chubby he's doing more than DWade these days...

Manu at 37 is similar to a much more athletic to begin with 32 year old.

Jacob1983
06-14-2014, 01:11 AM
Because of the 2006 Finals free throws that made Wade a superstar overnight.

Kool Bob Love
06-14-2014, 01:30 AM
Manu 4
Tony 4
tosb wade three!!!!

dg7md
06-14-2014, 01:37 AM
Because Wade is American and Gino and Parker are not... tbh...

MeloHype
06-14-2014, 02:09 AM
Manu 4
Tony 4
tosb wade three!!!!
The +/- king: 2
LeCramp: 2

Splits
06-14-2014, 02:14 AM
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mavsfan1000
06-14-2014, 08:50 AM
Because it's BSPN. Your intelligence drops when you watch that network's pregame show.

Sheriff Hoyt
06-14-2014, 09:05 AM
477266089424855041
:lol that would be fucked up

LkrFan
06-14-2014, 09:10 AM
:lol that would be hilarious

FIFY son

Darth_Pelican
06-14-2014, 10:23 AM
When Wade was in his prime, he was a cold-blooded baller and was better than prime Parker and prime Manu. The problem is that his prime didn't last very long. The PED's took their toll. Due to longevity as great/very good players, Parker and Manu should be considered better all time than Wade. But if the argument is that Wade at his best is better than Parker/Manu at their best, then it's Wade.

PublicOption
06-14-2014, 10:34 AM
no

jimbo
06-14-2014, 11:29 AM
09 Wade was a monster

30.2 ppg, 7.5 assists, 5 rebounds, 2.2 steals, 1.2 blocks per game

angrydude
06-14-2014, 11:56 AM
Because of the 2006 Finals free throws that made Wade a superstar overnight.


this

sook
06-14-2014, 12:12 PM
Dude did get freebies in 06' , but was an all time SG in his prime.

spurraider21
06-14-2014, 12:23 PM
Manu was never considered a top 3 or top 5 player in the league

jARS mEsH sEt
06-14-2014, 03:57 PM
Wade is a top 5 SG of all time. Manu was the rank 3 shooting guard during his generation for like 5 years behind Kobe and Wade. Huge fucking difference.

jARS mEsH sEt
06-14-2014, 03:58 PM
In his prime, Manu was like a rank 15-20 player in the league while Wade was in the top 5 or 10.

unleashbaynes
06-14-2014, 04:10 PM
When Wade was in his prime, he was a cold-blooded baller and was better than prime Parker and prime Manu. The problem is that his prime didn't last very long. The PED's took their toll. Due to longevity as great/very good players, Parker and Manu should be considered better all time than Wade. But if the argument is that Wade at his best is better than Parker/Manu at their best, then it's Wade.
I won't disagree with this, but prime Manu was pretty damn athletic in his own right....plus he could shoot the 3 and dish it. I'd still take prime Wade but it's closer than you'd think.

hsxvvd
06-14-2014, 05:11 PM
He isn't.

m>s
06-14-2014, 05:13 PM
how is he not top 50 all time? put up ridiculous numbers as a #1 option throughout his career until superfriends and won multiple rings...great 2 way player and one of the best defensive 2 guards of all time. the advanced metrics check out too..there literally isn't an argument that can be made against wade being top 25 all time at the very LEAST.

m>s
06-14-2014, 05:15 PM
manu is a great 2nd banana or even third at times on a championship team...wade was a #1 franchise player before superfriends. you can't even compare the two...and jacob you must have suffered a heat stroke out there pushing those target carts in that 110 degree texas sun because wade was already a superstar before 2006. 04-05 he put up ridiculous numbers and was an all star...dude pretty much was obviously a great player from the time he first stepped onto an nba court.

m>s
06-14-2014, 05:18 PM
but yes it probably is a lot closer than people think..manu was great in his own right. highly underrated as a play maker and clutch scorer. just not a guy to shoulder the load for 48 minutes.

spurraider21
06-14-2014, 06:45 PM
realistically speaking, the only way Manu could have put himself in that discussion if if he left San Antonio and established himself as a #1 option. he was always held back playing the 6th man role

Pero
06-14-2014, 07:06 PM
I don't understand. Can someone break down the argument?

Stephen A Smith thinks DWade is Top 50 All Time....

Parker is drinking wine all the time and while he's chubby he's doing more than DWade these days...

Manu at 37 is similar to a much more athletic to begin with 32 year old.
How about his previous days?
If Kobe Bryant is top 10, Wade certainly gets into top 50, nothing weird about it.

D-Wade
06-14-2014, 08:08 PM
Mavfan dropping truth bombs about the greatness of Wade. :toast

D-Wade
06-14-2014, 08:09 PM
Mavfan dropping truth bombs about the greatness of Wade. :toast

That said-- he and the rest of our guys better not go out like chumps tmrw. Go down swinging.

spurraider21
06-14-2014, 08:25 PM
Mavfan dropping truth bombs about the greatness of Wade. :toast

That said-- he and the rest of our guys better not go out like chumps tmrw. Go down swinging.
:lol as long as they go down, i'm fine with them swinging

Franklin
06-14-2014, 08:45 PM
Wade is a manufacture Superstar whose career would've probably diminished from NBA without those FTs in 06 tbh, even with a stolen ring dude has still been a role player from 06 onward, not winning no playoff series until his marriage with another two fags named Lebron and Bosh. Bron and Bosh are the reasons why people still remember him tbh.

m>s
06-14-2014, 09:14 PM
07-10 wade was a 25/7/7 type player wtf are you talking about. karl malone and barkely never won a ring and they're both definitely top 25..wade not winning another ring until 2012 nor the fact that they would have lost in 2006 without the ref help doesn't diminish him in any way as a player.

spurraider21
06-14-2014, 09:22 PM
07-10 wade was a 25/7/7 type player wtf are you talking about. karl malone and barkely never won a ring and they're both definitely top 25..wade not winning another ring until 2012 nor the fact that they would have lost in 2006 without the ref help doesn't diminish him in any way as a player.
Rogue is just letting the salt from 06 distort his memory of wade

Jacob1983
06-14-2014, 09:36 PM
How many playoff series did prime Wade win from 2007 to 2010?

Jenks
06-14-2014, 10:13 PM
477266089424855041

It's what we all were hoping was happening when RJ opted out.

Franklin
06-14-2014, 10:21 PM
How many playoff series did prime Wade win from 2007 to 2010?
umm... same as the number of bitches we combined have banged?

Jacob1983
06-14-2014, 10:27 PM
Tony Romo won more playoff games than the amount of times the Heat got out the first round in that span.

midnightpulp
06-15-2014, 02:05 AM
Wade's great. He's living off reputation this series, but I'm still scared shitless he can pop off at any minute.

Easily top 25 player ever.

Jacob1983
06-15-2014, 02:15 AM
Top 25? No fuckin' way. Maybe top 100 but that's even a stretch.

mavsfan1000
06-15-2014, 06:11 AM
Shooting guards that don't shoot 3's well really hurt team chemistry. Thus, Ginobili I feel is better for the team.

TDMVPDPOY
06-15-2014, 06:20 AM
wades not top25 man....

his in the range of 30-35

Franklin
06-15-2014, 08:18 AM
wade is easily top3 FT swindler all time though.

Mori Chu
06-15-2014, 12:19 PM
We tend to remember players by their prime years. Wade's overall career is less successful than Parker or Ginobili's, but his prime was transcendent. I don't think I'd put him high on the "best players ever" chart at all, but he had 3-5 years (~2006-2010 or so) where he was scary good. It's almost hard to remember now that the first year of the Big Three cHeat, Wade was legitimately argued to be the #1 guy on the Heat and considered just about as good as Lebron, maybe moreso on offense.

mavsfan1000
06-15-2014, 12:45 PM
We tend to remember players by their prime years. Wade's overall career is less successful than Parker or Ginobili's, but his prime was transcendent. I don't think I'd put him high on the "best players ever" chart at all, but he had 3-5 years (~2006-2010 or so) where he was scary good. It's almost hard to remember now that the first year of the Big Three cHeat, Wade was legitimately argued to be the #1 guy on the Heat and considered just about as good as Lebron, maybe moreso on offense.
He was great in 2005 as well. Yeah his prime was awesome. But he relies a bit too much on speed and getting to the line. That style is not built for longevity. And to add more on the team chemistry thing, teams will let Wade shoot 3's. He's not respected enough as a perimeter shooter. Thus he isn't as effective without the ball. Ginobili is well respected as a perimeter shooter. He actually helps spacing for the Spurs.