View Full Version : In Your Opinion Who Is The Most Overrated Player In The NFL?
N.Y. Johnny
08-16-2005, 09:36 PM
Who do you think is the most overrated player in the NFL?
is it Urlacher? who many pundits say holds that title.
Is it Michael Vick who some people say is just nothin more than a tailback that occasionally throws the ball
Chad Pennington? who can't throw the deep ball?
Peyton Manning who holds records but not titles?
who is it???
Guru of Nothing
08-16-2005, 09:59 PM
From a SpursTalk Fantasy Football slightly homer-bent perspective, it's freakin' Andre Johnson.
People confuse him with Randy Moss when they should be confusing him with Jerry Porter.
Ty Law
Urlacher
Vick-a-little
Culpepper-a-little [hate 2 say it]
Roethlisberger
TheTruth
08-16-2005, 10:15 PM
Ray Lewis, watch him play, and count how many times he jumps on a pile and still gets the tackle. Dr. Z on SI wrote a great article about this.
(hiding from the flames that are sure to come)
cecil collins
08-18-2005, 09:45 AM
Kurt Warner. I know that nobody really wants him anymore, but he has a starting job, so I call him overrated. He shouldn't even be a backup.
David Carr. Every year is his year and then when he sucks, he's going to be good once he puts it all together. Texans need to try drafting a new qb.
SWC Bonfire
08-18-2005, 02:02 PM
Whoever Denver's running back is this week.
Dre_7
08-18-2005, 02:06 PM
Ty Law
Urlacher
Vick-a-little
Culpepper-a-little [hate 2 say it]
Roethlisberger
Culpepper? How???????
nickbroken
08-18-2005, 02:16 PM
Vick...
SpursFanDan
08-18-2005, 04:57 PM
Vick is fun to watch, and thats why he gets all the publicity, so I guess hes overrated. Eli Manning in my opinion is way overrated, but maybe thats because hes in New York. Kellen Winslow jr, Keyshawn Johnson.
valluco
08-18-2005, 05:43 PM
Vick.
sa_butta
08-18-2005, 05:48 PM
Whoever Denver's running back is this week.the O-line would be most underrated.
2centsworth
08-18-2005, 08:56 PM
Bret Farve. Never seen someone get so much attention who consistently throws 4-5 ints in big playoff games.
SpursFanDan
08-18-2005, 09:53 PM
Bret Farve. Never seen someone get so much attention who consistently throws 4-5 ints in big playoff games.
I'm not even going to talk about that one, but hes a living active legend. And its favre by the way.
yea i can agree favre is overrated...
he's still on mag coveres and he's like 90.
he's barely an average qb coming into this year.
adnd about culpep dre i just added that so i wouldnt be so biased but w/e
T Park
08-19-2005, 03:57 AM
agree on Vick.
hes a quarterback who cant throw.
Horrible Passer rating, and horrible completion percentage, and hes got a great TE in Crumpler, and solid Wide outs.
Vick wins it hands down.
TheTruth
08-19-2005, 04:06 AM
Whoever Denver's running back is this week.
Since when has a guaranteed 1300 yards and 10 tds been overrated?
Extra Stout
08-19-2005, 08:56 AM
Since when has a guaranteed 1300 yards and 10 tds been overrated?Since any halfway decent back can get those stats in Denver thanks to their O-line.
batman2883
08-19-2005, 10:47 AM
Tom Brady
2centsworth
08-19-2005, 01:42 PM
I'm not even going to talk about that one, but hes a living active legend. And its favre by the way.
Legend for what? What has he done that is so spectacular? And it's he's by the way:spin .
I gotta agree with Dan here. Favre is one of the greatest QB's in the history of professional football.
Favre will pass Elway this season for 2nd most passing yards in NFL history. He's second to Dan Marino in most completions and TD passes.
He has 13 consecutive seasons (1992-2004) where he threw for over 3000 yards, including over 4000 last season. And his three consecutive MVP's in the mid to late 90's are a record too.
I don't really like the guy or his team too terribly much, but give credit where it's due.
batman2883
08-19-2005, 02:37 PM
Tom Brady hands down is the most overrated player of all time he was catapulted into stardom because his role players not because of his ability at the qb position
Horry For 3!
08-19-2005, 09:13 PM
Ray Lewis, watch him play, and count how many times he jumps on a pile and still gets the tackle. Dr. Z on SI wrote a great article about this.
(hiding from the flames that are sure to come)
That is true and I can't stand Ray Lewis.
Yea batman you're right.
Tom Brady is OVERRATED!!
SpursFanDan
08-20-2005, 02:15 AM
Tom Brady hands down is the most overrated player of all time he was catapulted into stardom because his role players not because of his ability at the qb position
The role players play the way they do because they have a qb that they trust. They love their qb, and that chemistry is what got them to where they are now.
BruceBowenFan
08-20-2005, 01:45 PM
im gonna say vic is overrated yes the guy can run but his accuracy is not there and he needs to trust his teamates to make the big play
Big Pimp_21
08-20-2005, 02:19 PM
Since when has a guaranteed 1300 yards and 10 tds been overrated?
Look at what Portis did in Denver and look at what he does now in Washington.
Also, Denver made Ruben Droughns (a FB) look like one of the top HBs in the game last year for a period of time. Don't get me wrong, the system is good for the team, but it makes the running backs look better than they are.
N.Y. Johnny
08-21-2005, 03:11 PM
I would have to answer now that I believe its Ray Lewis, for all the noise thats made about him and all, he's just a good LB but not the second coming of Butkus or Singletary, even LT. They continually give us a dosage of Lewis over and over, and I don't even think he's the best defensive player on the Ravens, Ed Reed or Chris McAlister are better all around.
Plus T.O. showed him up in the end zone and he took it like a little bitch last year.
He should have laid out T.O. just like George Teague laid him out on the Dallas Star a few years ago.
mysterious_elf26
08-24-2005, 10:35 AM
Legend for what? What has he done that is so spectacular? And it's he's by the way:spin .
Let's see. He has led GB to a couple super bowels, he is still one of the toughest players in the game compared to young stars that sit out just because of a little cough. He has played so many consecutive games, he plays the game through his heart, he is a great role model and lead by example unlike others. In other words, he's a great guy, a great athlete, a great QB, a family man, and a great football player. Just to list a few of why someone with some single knowledge of football will consider him a legend/hall of famer.
Age does not overshadow what he has done in the past. Hell, I think it has been personal problems more than age that has hurt his game a little.
FromWayDowntown
08-24-2005, 12:33 PM
I don't think Ray Lewis is overrated. He's not the greatest LB to ever play the game, but he's a consistent force on the best defense in football.
Say what you will about McAllister and Reed, who are both great players, but Baltimore was the best defense in football before either of those guys arrived. Lewis has been the one constant to the Ravens defense during its 6-7 run of statistical dominance.
I don't care if he jumps on piles late -- if he's in position to jump on a pile, it means that he's around the football, which is what a linebacker is supposed to do. Very, very few linebackers in history have gotten to the ball as regularly as Lewis.
And for as many piles as he jumps on, Lewis makes that many solo tackes. The NFL credited Lewis with 100 solo tackles last season and only 46 assisted tackles in 15 games. 146 total stops placed him 3rd in the NFL, and his 100 solos was 4th in the NFL (behind Derrick Brooks, 109; Donnie Edwards, 104; and Lance Briggs, 102). Had he played in that 16th game last year and just reached his averages, he would have been no worse than 2nd in solos and 1st in total stops. As linebackers go, Lewis has far, far more solo stops than a guy like Zach Thomas, whose big tackle totals are built heavily on assisted tackles. (Thomas has had more than 90 solo stops only three times in his 9 NFL seasons; Lewis has been at or over 100 in six of his nine NFL seasons, and had more than 90 in two other seasons -- if Lewis is overrated, then Zach Thomas is vastly overrated).
CrashMag
08-24-2005, 03:49 PM
what about Eli Manning, just because his dad and bro can
play, sure as hell dont mean he can throw the ball...... To much
credit, they blame it on the team. enough of this shit my daddy said
i can play. Bench his ass.
samikeyp
08-24-2005, 05:08 PM
I would go with that. Eli is a walking vagina. I have no respect for any player who pulls the "I don't wanna play there so don't pick me or I will hold out" card
FromWayDowntown
08-25-2005, 11:37 AM
I have no respect for any player who pulls the "I don't wanna play there so don't pick me or I will hold out" card
Any player? Including guys like John Elway and Bo Jackson?
FromWayDowntown
08-25-2005, 12:22 PM
For the record, I think the most overrated player in the NFL right now is Terrell Owens. He's certainly a good player -- likely a hall of famer. But he hasn't made a huge difference to the fate of any team he's been on. Philadelphia got one step further last year with him on the roster, but: (1) Philadelphia had been to 3 straight NFC title games without him, including the previous 2 with homefield advantage throughout the NFC playoffs; and (2) Philadelphia won its NFC title in 2004 while Owens was on the sideline.
Owens is a great talent, but Philadelphia has a great football team for more reasons than just T.O. I think many have lost sight of that.
samikeyp
08-25-2005, 01:05 PM
Any player? Including guys like John Elway and Bo Jackson?
yes them too at the time. To be fair, they earned my respect with their play on the field but I still disapprove of that course of action.
nickbroken
08-25-2005, 04:08 PM
For the record, I think the most overrated player in the NFL right now is Terrell Owens. He's certainly a good player -- likely a hall of famer. But he hasn't made a huge difference to the fate of any team he's been on. Philadelphia got one step further last year with him on the roster, but: (1) Philadelphia had been to 3 straight NFC title games without him, including the previous 2 with homefield advantage throughout the NFC playoffs; and (2) Philadelphia won its NFC title in 2004 while Owens was on the sideline.
Owens is a great talent, but Philadelphia has a great football team for more reasons than just T.O. I think many have lost sight of that.
You are smoking some good shit if you think T.O. is the most overrated playing in the NFL, he's top 2/3 wide out in the game right now easy.I can't say he is better then Moss , but I can Harrison.
samikeyp
08-25-2005, 04:40 PM
Moss is arguably the best athlete in the NFL but IMO Harrison is the best football player at WR, as much as I cannot stand TO...I don't think he is overrated. He is a damn good wideout and arguably the best in the league right now. The one thing that, IMO, seperates TO and Harrison is that Harrison will willingly go over the middle even after getting rocked. TO won't. He is scared of the big hit and if you get a shot or two on him he gets rattled. The game in Dallas the season after the "star incident" Teague popped him early and the whole game he had alligator arms. In that game where got hurt...Roy Williams got a good shot on him early on....later he saw Roy coming and ducked before he got to the ball which was catchable. He is a big guy but evidently doesn't like to take punishment. Still...he is a bad ass receiver and as big of a pain in the ass that he is...as a fan I would take him on my team.
FromWayDowntown
08-25-2005, 05:49 PM
You are smoking some good shit if you think T.O. is the most overrated playing in the NFL, he's top 2/3 wide out in the game right now easy.I can't say he is better then Moss , but I can Harrison.
You might bother to read what I posted. I didn't say the guy wasn't good. I don't dispute that he is one of the best WR in the game and even acknowledged that he's likely headed to Canton.
I just said that the degree to which he changes his team's success is substantially overrated. The Eagles were good without TO and they were just as good with him. To hear the media last year, you'd think that TO was the most important player to any team in NFL. I don't think he makes THAT much of a difference. Overrated to me is a question of value. TO, in my mind, simply isn't anywhere near as valuable as the media portrays him to be.
T.O. is certainly more overrated than Ray Lewis is. At least Ray Lewis has lead his team to a Super Bowl.
If you can't handle that and want a less controversial choice, Dante Hall is in the same category.
samikeyp
08-25-2005, 05:51 PM
If you can't handle that and want a less controversial choice, Dante Hall is in the same category.
wha-wha-what? the Human Joystick?? Overrated?!?!?! :wow
:smokin
CrashMag
08-25-2005, 07:22 PM
Don’t know if anyone hit him yet, but I think Steve Mcnair is a chump.
What happened to air Mcnair hype? Didn’t buy it then don’t buy it now.
N.Y. Johnny
08-25-2005, 07:31 PM
Jeremy Shockey is my pick for Offensive Overrated Player, the guy is supposed to be in leagues with Gates and Gonzales but puts up good numbers, but nothing great like the NY media hypes him up to be.
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