Would still draft Joel Embiid

[djohn2oo8]

The LA Daily News reports that the Lakers (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/page/LAL/los-angeles-lakers) "would consider" drafting center Joel Embiidfollowing his foot surgery Friday morning (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24593322/joel-embiid-has-successful-surgery-has-two-screws-inserted-into-foot) if they are given information on his surgery and prognosis to ease fears about his long-term health.

The Lakers would consider selecting Embiid should he become available, according to a person familiar with the Lakers' thinking. But such an idea would hinge on Embiid's recovery.
The Lakers are mindful there would be risk in selecting Embiid considering his recent back injury and his current foot fracture. But they are also aware of Embiid's upside with various draft experts likening him to Hall of Famer center Hakeem Olajuwon. It is unclear what information in Embiid's medical report and progress the Lakers would need to see that would make them feel comfortable picking Embiid assuming he stays undrafted before the seventh pick.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24593364/report-lakers-would-consider-drafting-embiid-at-no-7

:lol Fredo

[Kool Bob Love]

Joel already breaking down before draft night and the lakes still want him?

Next rounds on me Chaz!:toast

[024]

Meh, taking him at 7 is worth the risk. He was the consensus #1 just a week ago. Good luck getting him to contribute during Kobe's career though.

[djohn2oo8]

Meh, taking him at 7 is worth the risk. He was the consensus #1 just a week ago. Good luck getting him to contribute during Kobe's career though.
Drafting an injury prone 7 fter with foot (Yao) and back problems is asking for trouble.

[Thebesteva]

Beggars cant be chosers :'( tbh

[Chinook]

I just don't see Embiid not being done. An athlete having a stress fracture is like a building having a cracking foundation. His bones literally can't hold up to the stress of playing basketball. That's never going to change.

[LkrFan]

I just don't see Embiid not being done. An athlete having a stress fracture is like a building having a cracking foundation. His bones literally can't hold up to the stress of playing basketball. That's never going to change.

Are you an MD?

[djohn2oo8]

Are you an MD?
lol it is true. Big men with stress fractures do not last long.

[Chinook]

Are you an MD?

Nope. But I learned a bit about stress fractures when James Anderson had his injury a few years back. timvp also posted a list then of all NBA players who had had stress fractures, and each of them was either completely done afterwards or a shadow of their former selves.

[Clipper Nation]

Are you an MD?

:lol Mauricio begging for the next Oden/Yao

[Chinook]

:lol Mauricio begging for the next Oden/Yao

Well, not Oden, but the next Yao or Brook Lopez indeed.

[kobe4life]

:lol At spurfans hoping the Lakers don't get Embiid and making up all this bs about him never being able to comeback from this injury. God-Embiid has a chance to be as good as God-Shaq and maybe even better. We all know spurfans fear the potential of a God-Embid combo.

[Franklin]

:lol At spurfans hoping the Lakers don't get Embiid and making up all this bs about him never being able to comeback from this injury. God-Embiid has a chance to be as good as God-Shaq and maybe even better. We all know spurfans fear the potential of a God-Embid combo.
we definitely wouldn't fear a god who's 36yr old with a broken knee though, whoever his partner is. :lol

[dg7md]

With the Lakers having the 7th pick, picking him up there is a great gamble without much of a downside. Picking him in the top 3 would be risky, but down that low the Lakers don't have much to lose to give it a shot. His injury will heal.

[baseline bum]

Of course you'd take a chance on Embiid at 7.

[Kool Bob Love]

:lol At spurfans hoping the Lakers don't get Embiid and making up all this bs about him never being able to comeback from this injury. God-Embiid has a chance to be as good as God-Shaq and maybe even better. We all know spurfans fear the potential of a God-Embid combo.

Brah how fucking gods does one person need? Holy shit.

[djohn2oo8]

Reminds me of this scene

CSuwuvVcRHU

[LkrFan]

Nope. But I learned a bit about stress fractures when James Anderson had his injury a few years back. timvp also posted a list then of all NBA players who had had stress fractures, and each of them was either completely done afterwards or a shadow of their former selves.

Thanks Chin. I feel bad for the kid. His career hasn't even started yet.

[kobe4life]

Brah how fucking gods does one person need? Holy shit.
I only have 1 god and that is Kobe. I have great religion which is Koballah. Its an awesome religion in which I worship and pay homage to Kobe who is god. One of the advantages of the Koballah faith is that by worshiping Kobe you become a more confident person and it carries over to all aspects of life. My mission in life is to convert everybody to Koballah.

[LkrFan]

lol it is true. Big men with stress fractures do not last long.

Yep. Bad wheels and bad back? Not so good.

[100%duncan]

Of course you'd take a chance on Embiid at 7.

[LkrFan]

:lol Mauricio begging for the next Oden/Yao

Uh, n:lol

[The Third Man]

At pick 7? Hell yeah you draft Emblid. It's a no brainer for the Lakers.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Nope. But I learned a bit about stress fractures when James Anderson had his injury a few years back. timvp also posted a list then of all NBA players who had had stress fractures, and each of them was either completely done afterwards or a shadow of their former selves.

While you're definitely right about this kind of injury, didn't Blake Griffin suffer the same? I may be wrong, but guess there are always exceptions.

[hsxvvd]

If he falls to 7th... the Lakers would be stupid to pass.

[mrjap2x]

Celtics also want Embiid.

[Thread]

Ed Jackson (https://www.facebook.com/ed.jackson.7798) · Works at Crystal Run Healthcare (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Crystal-Run-Healthcare/553054024762494)Physical Therapist here, see a lot of sports injuries. navicular fractures are a nightmare for athletes, especially large/heavy ones who jump a lot (ie this guy).
The navicular connects the Cuneiform and the talus (which is the keystone of the ankle)
The navic and talus are notoriously blessed with poor circulation, leading to poor healing.
The navic also makes up the top portion of the medial side of the arch of your foot, it's a BAD bone to break, especially for a jumper/runner.
I thought this guy had a bright future, but seeing this I think he should be passed on, even in the top 10.

[TDMVPDPOY]

if he drops down the pecking order where his contract value is under 1m, its worth drafting him, its like paying another scrub at the end of the bench

[-21-]

:lol At spurfans hoping the Lakers don't get Embiid and making up all this bs about him never being able to comeback from this injury. God-Embiid has a chance to be as good as God-Shaq and maybe even better. We all know spurfans fear the potential of a God-Embid combo.
If the Lakers do draft Embiid, by the time he's ready to play, Kobe will either be retired or have another injury. These two won't play together a lot. Good luck pairing an injured rookie with an injured TOSB. :lol

[baseline bum]

While you're definitely right about this kind of injury, didn't Blake Griffin suffer the same? I may be wrong, but guess there are always exceptions.

In the kneecap, not the foot.

[baseline bum]

http://www.brewhoop.com/2014/6/20/5826694/taking-a-closer-look-at-the-joel-embiid-injury-how-bad-might-it-be

Ilgauskas offers perhaps the most hopeful outcome for Embiid. Ilgauskas' navicular injury -- which kept him from playing during 1996-97, his rookie season -- was again suffered five games into the 1998-99 season, limited him to 29 games over the next three seasons.

But remarkably, after returning to the court in December 2001, Ilgauskas played at least 78 games each of the following five seasons, moving past his foot issues to become a two-time All-Star. He remained a contributor through his retirement in 2011 at age 36.

Wow, Ilgauskas was a shell of his former self by 2001. :lol

Is that really best case scenario for Embiid? :lol

[Chinook]

While you're definitely right about this kind of injury, didn't Blake Griffin suffer the same? I may be wrong, but guess there are always exceptions.

I could have sworn that was an ACL. If so, that's like Noel's injury, and nothing like Embiid's.

[baseline bum]

I could have sworn that was an ACL. If so, that's like Noel's injury, and nothing like Embiid's.

Blake had a stress fracture in his kneecap.

[baseline bum]

Maybe LA2 shouldn't take Embiid at 7 if Big Z is the best case scenario. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Maybe LA2 shouldn't take Embiid at 7 if Big Z is the best case scenario. :lol

No they should :lol

[Raven]

Meh, taking him at 7 is worth the risk. He was the consensus #1 just a week ago. Good luck getting him to contribute during Kobe's career though.

not really

[RsxPiimp]

I just don't see Embiid not being done. An athlete having a stress fracture is like a building having a cracking foundation. His bones literally can't hold up to the stress of playing basketball. That's never going to change.

:lol Is that why Drummond dominated last year playing 81 games despite having a stress fracture in his back the prior year?

[RsxPiimp]

I'd be surprised if Embiid drops lower than 6th, Boston would be stupid to let this guy go. His potential is massive.

[Chinook]

:lol Is that why Drummond dominated last year playing 81 games despite having a stress fracture in his back the prior year?

You do realize a foot and a back are different parts of the body, right?

[Sheriff Hoyt]

You do realize a foot and a back are different parts of the body, right?

He thinks the back is an extension of the foot

[RsxPiimp]

You do realize a foot and a back are different parts of the body, right?

My point is a back problem is as severe if not more and devastating for big men, yet Drummond has beaten the odds coming back stronger than ever :lol

Your statement about calling Embiid's career anything but done is ridiculous, considering you don't know the extent of his injury and how everyone's recovery is different than others. :lol

[StrengthAndHonor]

You do realize a foot and a back are different parts of the body, right?

Embiid actually had a stress fracture in his back, reason why he missed a portion of his season in Kansas.

[Chinook]

My point is a back problem is as severe if not more and devastating for big men, yet Drummond has beaten the odds coming back stronger than ever :lol

Your statement about calling Embiid's career anything but done is ridiculous, considering you don't know the extent of his injury and how everyone's recovery is different than others. :lol

:lol if you want to hold out hope, fine. I don't care what you do. But the only reason people are concerned is because they know this injury is career-ending/career-altering.

The reality is that Embiid's career will likely take one of two courses: short and injury-filled with occasional flashes of brilliant play (Yao post-injury, Lopez now) or long and decent but with significantly less production (and fewer minutes) than people hoped. There's too much history for anyone responsible to hide behind, "Well, you never know."

[Chinook]

Embiid actually had a stress fracture in his back, reason why he missed a portion of his season in Kansas.

Someone needs to do a bone-density scan on that kid.

[Thread]

Someone needs to do a bone-density scan on that kid.

Then they'd know, and they don't want to know until after it's too late.

[RsxPiimp]

:lol if you want to hold out hope, fine. I don't care what you do. But the only reason people are concerned is because they know this injury is career-ending/career-altering.

The reality is that Embiid's career will likely take one of two courses: short and injury-filled with occasional flashes of brilliant play (Yao post-injury, Lopez now) or long and decent but with significantly less production (and fewer minutes) than people hoped. There's too much history for anyone responsible to hide behind, "Well, you never know."
you're not wrong, embiid is a walking red flag, still i think generalizations and premature diagnosis are asinine. people draw yao comparisons but yao wasn't only taller but also carried a lot more weight than embiid.

do i think embiid will be a bust? so far it points to it, but i wouldn't be surprised if these issues becomes a thing of the past with sports medicine in pro ball being a lot more advanced and heavily funded and most organizations treating their players with a lot more caution.

[gnsf0946]

Was Embiid even a legit franchise player in the making before the injury?

People put too much stock into this draft imo

[RsxPiimp]

Was Embiid even a legit franchise player in the making before the injury?

People put too much stock into this draft imo
Size, skill and potential yes. Most of the players in every draft is a crap shoot anyway minus, Shaq, tim and lebron in recent history.

[Aztecfan03]

:lol At spurfans hoping the Lakers don't get Embiid and making up all this bs about him never being able to comeback from this injury. God-Embiid has a chance to be as good as God-Shaq and maybe even better. We all know spurfans fear the potential of a God-Embid combo.

:lmao:rollin:lmao. You would be lucky to get 80 games combined out of the two in one season.

[baseline bum]

No they should :lol

Who det bitch in your fourth photo?

[313]

:lol At spurfans hoping the Lakers don't get Embiid and making up all this bs about him never being able to comeback from this injury. God-Embiid has a chance to be as good as God-Shaq and maybe even better. We all know spurfans fear the potential of a God-Embid combo.
:lmao