Would the Spurs have beaten the 2004 Pistons or the 2008 Cs?

[LkrFan]

If they got by the Lakers them two years? Hell fuck no. Those were two of the greatest defensive teams in NBA history. Otherwise Kobe is sitting on 7.

[HemisfairArena]

I may be the dumbest man on the planet but didn't the Spurs beat the Pistons in 2005 for a title,,,,the same Piston team that crushed the Lakers in '04,,,4-1?

[elmanutres]

only realistic choice is 2004 pistons. only because they beat them in 05. but i dont think they would. 2004 was just their year.

[MI21]

I think the Spurs could have beaten Detroit, they had homecourt. Would of been a toss-up just like 05'.

I don't give them a great chance against Boston in 2008. Maybe 25%.

[midnightpulp]

Celtics. No way. 08 Spurs were a pretty weak team as far as all-time Spurs teams go. 08 Celtics are overall overrated, though. Got taken to 7 in every series aside from the Finals.

04 Pistons would go 7, just like '05. Pistons win probably. Hedo Turkeyglu was getting major minutes on the 04 Spurs.

[Robz4000]

2008 Celtics? Maybe. Pop would've coached circles around Doc Rivers and Duncan would've gone apeshit playing KG.

I don't think anyone was beating Detroit in 04 tbh.

[Texas_Ranger]

04 spurs had turkoglu so no way.
I'd give te 08 spurs a bigget shot, but still think boston would won.

[Clipper Nation]

Would the Lakers have beaten the 2004 Pistons if Kirby didn't lodge this?

Kirby's averages from the 2004 Finals:
2004: 22.6 ppg, 4.4 apg, 2.8 rpg, 1.8 steals, .6 blocks, 3.6 turnovers, 38% shooting

Daddy's averages from the 2004 Finals:
2004: 26.6 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 1.6 apg, .6 blocks, 63.1% shooting

[Robz4000]

Would the Lakers have beaten the 2004 Pistons if Kirby didn't lodge this?

Kirby's averages from the 2004 Finals:
2004: 22.6 ppg, 4.4 apg, 2.8 rpg, 1.8 steals, .6 blocks, 3.6 turnovers, 38% shooting

Daddy's averages from the 2004 Finals:
2004: 26.6 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 1.6 apg, .6 blocks, 63.1% shooting

Christ!

[HemisfairArena]

You see,,,,I disagree with most. Spurs matched up well with the Pistons. The Lakers didn't. Both(San Antonio an Detroit) were defensive juggernauts.

[MI21]

Would the Lakers have beaten the 2004 Pistons if Kirby didn't lodge this?

Kirby's averages from the 2004 Finals:
2004: 22.6 ppg, 4.4 apg, 2.8 rpg, 1.8 steals, .6 blocks, 3.6 turnovers, 38% shooting

Daddy's averages from the 2004 Finals:
2004: 26.6 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 1.6 apg, .6 blocks, 63.1% shooting

Great numbers from Daddy against one of the best defensive frontcourts ever, tbh.

[ezau]

2014 Spurs would destroy 08 Celtics in 5.

[Clipper Nation]

Also, :lol at Cuonzo's "greatest defensive team in NBA history" excuse.... Shaq certainly didn't have any trouble shooting 63% against the Pistons :lol

[Texas_Ranger]

Would the Lakers have beaten the 2004 Pistons if Kirby didn't lodge this?

Kirby's averages from the 2004 Finals:
2004: 22.6 ppg, 4.4 apg, 2.8 rpg, 1.8 steals, .6 blocks, 3.6 turnovers, 38% shooting

Daddy's averages from the 2004 Finals:
2004: 26.6 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 1.6 apg, .6 blocks, 63.1% shooting

Even a fat ass shaq was much better than the rapist. At least the rape that rip hamilton did on kirby was legal.

[Infinite_limit]

Also, :lol at Cuonzo's "greatest defensive team in NBA history" excuse.... Shaq certainly didn't have any trouble shooting 63% against the Pistons :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D52gXHe23SE

[CitizenDwayne]

Would the Lakers have beaten the 2004 Pistons if Kirby didn't lodge this?

Kirby's averages from the 2004 Finals:
2004: 22.6 ppg, 4.4 apg, 2.8 rpg, 1.8 steals, .6 blocks, 3.6 turnovers, 38% shooting

Daddy's averages from the 2004 Finals:
2004: 26.6 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 1.6 apg, .6 blocks, 63.1% shooting

:lmao

[Sean Cagney]

You see,,,,I disagree with most. Spurs matched up well with the Pistons. The Lakers didn't. Both(San Antonio an Detroit) were defensive juggernauts.

Spurs needed a dose of Barry and Nazr the next year to beat them though, they were key parts! They were not around in 04 and Rash started and Hedo had a big role! Think about that for a second! I don't think they beat that Detroit team with that unit, they were on a mission. 08 Celts I doubt they beat as well, better chance than the 04 Pistons though IMO. I doubt we win either series in all reality.

[Clipper Nation]

Even a fat ass shaq was much better than the rapist. At least the rape that rip hamilton did on kirby was legal.

Don't forget Isolayshaun Prince taking Kirby's cookie and making him like it :lol

[baseline bum]

I still think the 05 series with Detroit only went 7 because Duncan's ankles were fucked. That 05 Pistons team had a terrible bench outside McDyess (unlike the very deep 04 team) and had a lousy season with 54 wins after a title hangover just like this year's Heat. The 04 Pistons were significantly better than the 05 team, but I think the 04 Spurs with a healthy Duncan were better than the 05 Spurs with Duncan who got worn out by the fourth quarter all the time. I think it'd be a coin toss who takes Game 7 between the two teams.

In 08 the Celtics smash the Spurs in 5 or at worst 6, even if Ginobili never got hurt. Those Celtics were incredible in the frontcourt and would have eaten Bonner, Oberto, and Finley alive. They had so many quality players at positions 3-5. Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Kendrick Perkins, James Posey, Leon Powe, PJ Brown, and Tony Allen. Absolutely no chance.

[HemisfairArena]

Would the Lakers have beaten the 2004 Pistons if Kirby didn't lodge this?

Kirby's averages from the 2004 Finals:
2004: 22.6 ppg, 4.4 apg, 2.8 rpg, 1.8 steals, .6 blocks, 3.6 turnovers, 38% shooting

Daddy's averages from the 2004 Finals:
2004: 26.6 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 1.6 apg, .6 blocks, 63.1% shooting

When Kobrick got out played by Austin Chroshere in the 2000 Finals,,,,his fake legacy was crushed. Only Laker/Kobe fans doing a smoke and mirror routine.

[Buddy Mignon]

No!!!

[Spurs 4 The Win]

2014 Spurs beats both in 4, not enough scoring for pistons and celtics wouldve gotten run off the court with fake stars like KG and Pierce (lol wheelchair fagget)

[LkrFan]

Also, :lol at Cuonzo's "greatest defensive team in NBA history" excuse.... Shaq certainly didn't have any trouble shooting 63% against the Pistons :lol
:lol

2/3 = 66% son. Try harder. :downspin:

[Clipper Nation]

:lol

2/3 = 66% son. Try harder. :downspin:

66% > 38% :lol

[LkrFan]

I still think the 05 series with Detroit only went 7 because Duncan's ankles were fucked. That 05 Pistons team had a terrible bench outside McDyess (unlike the very deep 04 team) and had a lousy season with 54 wins after a title hangover just like this year's Heat. The 04 Pistons were significantly better than the 05 team, but I think the 04 Spurs with a healthy Duncan were better than the 05 Spurs with Duncan who got worn out by the fourth quarter all the time. I think it'd be a coin toss who takes Game 7 between the two teams.

In 08 the Celtics smash the Spurs in 5 or at worst 6, even if Ginobili never got hurt. Those Celtics were incredible in the frontcourt and would have eaten Bonner, Oberto, and Finley alive. They had so many quality players at positions 3-5. Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Kendrick Perkins, James Posey, Leon Powe, PJ Brown, and Tony Allen. Absolutely no chance.

Good take son. Still think 04 Pistons would have pushed your shit in.

[spurraider21]

honestly i don't know and i don't care.

boiled down, 5, 3, and 2 > 5, 2, and 1

[LkrFan]

honestly i don't know and i don't care.

boiled down, 5, 3, and 2 > 5, 2, and 1

Does 6 still hurt?

[Clipper Nation]

Does 6 still hurt?

48.5 will hurt for a while. :downspin:

[LkrFan]

48.5 will hurt for a while. :downspin:

For 2 years only son. :toast

[Clipper Nation]

For 2 years only son. :toast

Then Kirby signs for 58.5 :downspin:

[LkrFan]

Celtics. No way. 08 Spurs were a pretty weak team as far as all-time Spurs teams go. 08 Celtics are overall overrated, though. Got taken to 7 in every series aside from the Finals.

04 Pistons would go 7, just like '05. Pistons win probably. Hedo Turkeyglu was getting major minutes on the 04 Spurs.

:tu

04 Pistons were some tough SOBs. Hedo would have been your Achilles Heel (AKA Medvedenko). 04 Pistons in 5 over Spurs tbh.

[LkrFan]

Then Kirby signs for 58.5 :downspin:

:lol - Riiiiiiiiiight :lol

[LkrFan]

2008 Celtics? Maybe. Pop would've coached circles around Doc Rivers and Duncan would've gone apeshit playing KG.I don't think anyone was beating Detroit in 04 tbh.Who stops PP? How bout RA? They're bench was vet-laiden too with Sam I Am, PJ Brown, and Powe. 08 Cs would have swept the Spurs tbh.

[Robz4000]

Who stops PP? How bout RA? They're bench was vet-laiden too wigh Sam I Am, PJ Brown, and Powe. 08 Cs would have swept the Spurs tbh.

Pierce would've gotten his while Manu or Bowen contain Allen. Barry was still coming off the bench and wasn't done at that point. Parker also would've eaten Rondo alive at that point. Celtics might've still won but the Spurs would've put up as well of a fight as LA without Kirby to fuck things up.

[Cry Havoc]

For 2 years only son. :toast

This is what you have been reduced to. After two years of complete ineptitude, you only have to wade through 2 more years of being the laughingstock of the Western Conference just to potentially field a competent (read: not title contender but MIGHT get to the 2nd round) team again.

:lol

[Cry Havoc]

I thought the question was whether or not the 2014 Spurs would beat the two respective teams.

2004 Spurs vs. 2004 Pistons - Hell of a matchup. Probably goes 7. Pistons probably take it.
2014 Spurs vs. 2004 Pistons - Still 7 games. Give me the Spurs but very close.

2008 Spurs vs. 2008 Celtics - Well, if healthy, it would be a good series. Celtics in 6-7, I guess.
2014 Spurs vs. 2008 Celtics - Spurs in 6, max. Ball rotation and swarming defense would have killed those C's. Pop would have just smirked as he backed off Rondo and let him shoot 33% for the series while locking down Pierce and KG.

Kawhi on Garnett would have been incredibly entertaining to watch though. Biggest loud mouth trash talker in the game vs. the quiet defensive phenom. Would be interesting to see if Kawhi would have engaged Garnett when he was running his mouth at all.

[LkrFan]

This is what you have been reduced to. After two years of complete ineptitude, you only have to wade through 2 more years of being the laughingstock of the Western Conference just to potentially field a competent (read: not title contender but MIGHT get to the 2nd round) team again.

:lol

Brighter long term future, Spurs or Lakers? Stop playing checkers son. ;)

[Clipper Nation]

Brighter long term future, Spurs or Lakers? Stop playing checkers son. ;)

I'll take the champs' future over the Fredos', tbh :lol

[LkrFan]

I thought the question was whether or not the 2014 Spurs would beat the two respective teams.

2004 Spurs vs. 2004 Pistons - Hell of a matchup. Probably goes 7. Pistons probably take it.
2014 Spurs vs. 2004 Pistons - Still 7 games. Give me the Spurs but very close.

2008 Spurs vs. 2008 Celtics - Well, if healthy, it would be a good series. Celtics in 6-7, I guess.
2014 Spurs vs. 2008 Celtics - Spurs in 6, max. Ball rotation and swarming defense would have killed those C's. Pop would have just smirked as he backed off Rondo and let him shoot 33% for the series while locking down Pierce and KG.

Disingenuous farmers these days. SMH

[LkrFan]

I'll take the champs' future over the Fredos', tbh :lol

LDSesque post. SMH

[Spurs 4 The Win]

I thought the question was whether or not the 2014 Spurs would beat the two respective teams.

2004 Spurs vs. 2004 Pistons - Hell of a matchup. Probably goes 7. Pistons probably take it.
2014 Spurs vs. 2004 Pistons - Still 7 games. Give me the Spurs but very close.

2008 Spurs vs. 2008 Celtics - Well, if healthy, it would be a good series. Celtics in 6-7, I guess.
2014 Spurs vs. 2008 Celtics - Spurs in 6, max. Ball rotation and swarming defense would have killed those C's. Pop would have just smirked as he backed off Rondo and let him shoot 33% for the series while locking down Pierce and KG.

Kawhi on Garnett would have been incredibly entertaining to watch though. Biggest loud mouth trash talker in the game vs. the quiet defensive phenom. Would be interesting to see if Kawhi would have engaged Garnett when he was running his mouth at all.

Pistons couldnt score enough to keep up with 2014 Spurs

[Cry Havoc]

Brighter long term future, Spurs or Lakers? Stop playing checkers son. ;)

Your best young prospect is a chucker named Nick who might be the worst player in NBA history to average ~20 ppg. and whoever you got coming at #7. Mr. Finals MVP would literally destroy both of them, regardless of who you guys pick up. If, however, you get Embiid I'll reserve my judgment until we find out if he'll ever play a full season healthy, but that's your best hope for relevance.

Longer term? We have Danny Green, Kawhi Leonard, and Patty Mills, along with Diaw and Parker who are both only 32. Tiago still got lots of years left. And a couple of draft and stash prospects who could be good coming over. Yeah. The Spurs by a country mile. :lol

[ezau]

Brighter long term future, Spurs or Lakers? Stop playing checkers son. ;)

Fredo has yet to prove that he has what it takes to rebuild or reload the Lakers. He has done nothing remotely decent since he took over Jerry (RIP).

[baseline bum]

I'll take the champs' future over the Fredos', tbh :lol

:lol

The Lakers don't even have a player as good as Patty Mills to build on, much less a Kawhi Leonard

[Cry Havoc]

:lol

The Lakers don't even have a player as good as Patty Mills to build on, much less a Kawhi Leonard

It would be hilarious if they drafted Embiid and he went down for the year in the first game of the season. I mean, not for Embiid, I respect the dude's game from what I've seen, but just for the Lakers franchise. :lol

[Clipper Nation]

LDSesque post. SMH
LDS? Does that stand for Lakers Do Suck? :lol

[LkrFan]

Your best young prospect is a chucker named Nick who might be the worst player in NBA history to average ~20 ppg. and whoever you got coming at #7. Mr. Finals MVP would literally destroy both of them, regardless of who you guys pick up. If, however, you get Embiid I'll reserve my judgment until we find out if he'll ever play a full season healthy, but that's your best hope for relevance.

Longer term? We have Danny Green, Kawhi Leonard, and Patty Mills, along with Diaw and Parker who are both only 32. Tiago still got lots of years left. And a couple of draft and stash prospects who could be good coming over. Yeah. The Spurs by a country mile. :lol

We'll see. I'm sure you laughed after Showtime ended and after Shaq/Kobe broke up too. Checkers.

[Cry Havoc]

Pistons couldnt score enough to keep up with 2014 Spurs

Funny thing about defense, you don't need to score a lot. Defense still wins titles. It would be the best passing offense vs. very possibly the best defensive team in NBA history. Hell of a matchup, that's for sure. I think Pop would have found a way to exploit Rip at the 2, he was never a great defensive player, but even so, 1,2,4,5 positions were all fucking monsters on that end of things for Detroit.

[ezau]

We'll see. I'm sure you laughed after Showtime ended and after Shaq/Kobe broke up too. Checkers.

You had Jerry Buss back then. He ain't walking through that door, son.

[Clipper Nation]

We'll see. I'm sure you laughed after Showtime ended and after Shaq/Kobe broke up too. Checkers.

Jerry was alive and running things still back then.... if that happened under Fredo, they'd be the Seattle Lakers right now :lol

[LkrFan]

:lol

The Lakers don't even have a player as good as Patty Mills to build on, much less a Kawhi Leonard

We'll see how good Kiwi is AD (After Duncan). 5 years $80M?

w:lolw

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Funny thing about defense, you don't need to score a lot. Defense still wins titles. It would be the best passing offense vs. very possibly the best defensive team in NBA history. Hell of a matchup, that's for sure. I think Pop would have found a way to exploit Rip at the 2, he was never a great defensive player, but even so, 1,2,4,5 positions were all fucking monsters on that end of things for Detroit.

Unless you think the 05 Spurs were better than this years team, i dont see your point

[Cry Havoc]

We'll see. I'm sure you laughed after Showtime ended and after Shaq/Kobe broke up too. Checkers.

Right, but your hypothesis is who has the brighter future right now.

Right now, the ultra-proud ultra-rich Lakeshow is paying a dude $48 million over the next two years and he might not even be effective. Outside of the #7 pick, what exactly is *bright* for the Lakers right now?

Nothing. Fucking nothing. Now, your front office might work some magic and turn your fool's gold into something more substantial, but as of now you are looking down a looooooooong line of getting your ass handed to you by the Spurs.

And god help you and Kobe if we rang next year. It won't even matter. You might as well move to Oakland.

[RD2191]

Havoc going in raw.

[LkrFan]

Right, but your hypothesis is who has the brighter future right now.

Right now, the ultra-proud ultra-rich Lakeshow is paying a dude $48 million over the next two years and he might not even be effective. Outside of the #7 pick, what exactly is *bright* for the Lakers right now?

Nothing. Fucking nothing. Now, your front office might work some magic and turn your fool's gold into something more substantial, but as of now you are looking down a looooooooong line of getting your ass handed to you by the Spurs.

And god help you and Kobe if we rang next year. It won't even matter. You might as well move to Oakland.

Longterm sounds exactly like right now. :rolleyes

[baseline bum]

We'll see how good Kiwi is AD (After Duncan). 5 years $80M?

w:olw

I'm hearing shit about contracts from Team 48.5? :rollin

[baseline bum]

I know long-term the Spurs have their picks while Chaz gets to sit the 2015 and 2017 drafts out tbh.

[ezau]

LkrFan, just go home and call it a day.

[Cry Havoc]

Unless you think the 05 Spurs were better than this years team, i dont see your point

Prime Tony + Prime Duncan + Prime Manu was very possibly the best combo in NBA history. Holy shit, did you even watch them play? Duncan walked us through Game 7 on one fucking leg. That team was absolutely monstrous on both sides of the ball. Brent Barry. Bruce Bowen. Robert Fucking Horry.

We ran the Suns off the court just a round prior when everyone thought that Nash was going to coast to a title that year, then slowed down to a crawl and ground out wins in the Finals vs. Detroit. Loaded. Fucking loaded team.

[100%duncan]

04 Spurs yes. 08 spurs no, they got taken to 7 by choke paul.

2014 spurs would smash both though tbh.

[LkrFan]

I'm hearing shit about contracts from Team 48.5? :rollin

He parlayed 3 games into $80M. Hope it wasn't a fluke, for your sake. If it was a flash in the pan the Spurs = f:lolcked

[Clipper Nation]

If it was a flsdh in yhe pan yhe Spurs = f:lolcked

Goddamn, Pablo's tears are frying out his keyboard :lol

[HI-FI]

Brighter long term future, Spurs or Lakers? Stop playing checkers son. ;)
if they find a way to destroy the current CBA and resurrect Dr. Buss, then the Lakers.

[Cry Havoc]

We'll see how good Kiwi is AD (After Duncan). 5 years $80M?

w:lolw

You'd pay the pied piper tomorrow and twice on Tuesday to get Kawhi and be singing praises about your front office for playing chess all the while.

Ok son, who do you see in your future that's worth getting excited about? You Marcus Smart or Julius Randle is going to lead you back to the promised land? Do you have some sort of crystal ball for prospects over there? More lottery picks to stock up on rookies? Kobe ain't gonna do the tank, son, it won't sit well with him and he'll demand trades. You'd trade ANYONE on your team not named Kobe for Leonard right fucking now, including your #7 and Swaggy P.

[baseline bum]

He parlayed 3 games into $80M. Hope it wasn't a fluke, for your sake. If it was a flash in the pan the Spurs = f:lolcked

Pablito ese, Leonard took the Spurs on a 19 game win-streak and stole Westbrook's game-winner.

[LkrFan]

Goddamn, Pablo's tears are frying out his keyboard :lol

Stupid phone fucking my shit up tbh:lol

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Prime Tony + Prime Duncan + Prime Manu was very possibly the best combo in NBA history. Holy shit, did you even watch them play? Duncan walked us through Game 7 on one fucking leg. That team was absolutely monstrous on both sides of the ball. Brent Barry. Bruce Bowen. Robert Fucking Horry.

We ran the Suns off the court just a round prior when everyone thought that Nash was going to coast to a title that year, then slowed down to a crawl and ground out wins in the Finals vs. Detroit. Loaded. Fucking loaded team.

I think the they are pretty equal, this years team generates a lot of offense tho, and we obviously dont have a time machine to match them up with each other, but i think the offense wouldve been too much too handle (Tony wasnt prime in 05 either, and Kawhi would be a matchup advantage) Also, I think the three ball wouldve been an x factor, probably a 7 game series, with homecourt deciding it :wakeup

[baseline bum]

You'd pay the pied piper tomorrow and twice on Tuesday to get Kawhi and be singing praises about your front office for playing chess all the while.

Ok son, who do you see in your future that's worth getting excited about? You Marcus Smart or Julius Randle is going to lead you back to the promised land? Do you have some sort of crystal ball for prospects over there? More lottery picks to stock up on rookies? Kobe ain't gonna do the tank, son, it won't sit well with him and he'll demand trades.

The lottery picks are going to Phoenix and Orlando. :lol

[LkrFan]

You'd pay the pied piper tomorrow and twice on Tuesday to get Kawhi and be singing praises about your front office for playing chess all the while.

Ok son, who do you see in your future that's worth getting excited about? You Marcus Smart or Julius Randle is going to lead you back to the promised land? Do you have some sort of crystal ball for prospects over there? More lottery picks to stock up on rookies? Kobe ain't gonna do the tank, son, it won't sit well with him and he'll demand trades. You'd trade ANYONE on your team not named Kobe for Leonard right fucking now, including your #7 and Swaggy P.

The Lakers always bounce back. History showed us that. Prior to 97 and after 2014 is tbd for your Spurs.

[midnightpulp]

Brighter long term future, Spurs or Lakers? Stop playing checkers son. ;)

Next 10 years?

Spurs, without a doubt.


Jerry West isn't walking through that door. Jerry Buss isn't walking through that door. The old CBA isn't walking through that door.

Best case scenario for the Lakers is to tank 5 straight years and load up on draft picks. Applying the marquee free agent fix-it-quick strategy doesn't work as well as it once did under the new CBA.

[Cry Havoc]

I think the they are pretty equal, this years team generates a lot of offense tho, and we obviously dont have a time machine to match them up with each other, but i think the offense wouldve been too much too handle (Tony wasnt prime in 05 either, and Kawhi would be a matchup advantage) Also, I think the three ball wouldve been an x factor, probably a 7 game series, with homecourt deciding it :wakeup

Well, the Spurs played the Suns in the WCF and averaged close to 110 points for that series. I think it's safe to say they could turn the offense on, they just typically slowed the game down because no one could score on our half court D.

[Cry Havoc]

The Lakers always bounce back. History showed us that. Prior to 97 and after 2014 is tbd for your Spurs.

I guess you're too young to remember the 90s. Your team got the HIVVY and bowed out ungracefully. :lol

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Well, the Spurs played the Suns in the WCF and averaged close to 110 points for that series. I think it's safe to say they could turn the offense on, they just typically slowed the game down because no one could score on our half court D.

But that Suns team does not have a defense even remotely comparable to what we had this year, they were a 7 seconds or less offense, not a passing machine, not comparable imo

[LkrFan]

Next 10 years?

Spurs, without a doubt.


Jerry West isn't walking through that door. Jerry Buss isn't walking through that door. The old CBA isn't walking through that door.

Best case scenario for the Lakers is to tank 5 straight years and load up on draft picks. Applying the marquee free agent fix-it-quick strategy doesn't work as well as it once did under the new CBA.Not sweating the CBA tbh. It's the LDS owners that are cock blocking. :lol

[LkrFan]

I guess you're too young to remember the 90s. Your team got the HIVVY and bowed out ungracefully. :lol

I remember them well. We had many teams that were athletic as fuck but couldn't get it done until PJ showed up. 1997 team was more athletic than 2010-2014 Heatles tbh - for example.

[Cry Havoc]

cl1OwyxxbNQ

[Cry Havoc]

I remember them well. We had many teams that were athletic as fuck but couldn't get it done until PJ showed up. 1997 team was more athletic than 2010-2014 Heatles tbh - for example.

Yeah, I mean, athleticism. Wooo. You didn't rang at all, but at least you were athletic. Is that why you think your future is bright now? Because you might be athletic in 3 years after Kirby's contracts only take 1/4th of your team's cap room? :lol

[LkrFan]

Pablito ese, Leonard took the Spurs on a 19 game win-streak and stole Westbrook's game-winner.

That's worth $16/year? :lmao

[Cry Havoc]

That's worth $16/year? :lmao

Lakerfan talking shit about overpaying players. If the kettle was any blacker, it would have a singularity at the center.

[LkrFan]

Yeah, I mean, athleticism. Wooo. You didn't rang at all, but at least you were athletic. Is that why you think your future is bright now? Because you might be athletic in 3 years after Kirby's contracts only take 1/4th of your team's cap room? :lol

You're a dumbass. SMH :lol

[Spurs 4 The Win]

That's worth $16/year? :lmao

I imagine that has got to be worth at least $16,000/year :lol

[Cry Havoc]

You're a dumbass. SMH :lol

No response that involves a basketball take or any good information about who the Lakers are going to get, just name calling. Predictable from someone who has absolutely no logical rebuttal. :lol

[midnightpulp]

Not sweating the CBA tbh. It's the LDS owners that are cock blocking. :lol

You should. The Buss family aren't multibillionaires like Allen, Ballmer, Cuban, etc. The Lakers are their only source of profit. Their operating profit last season was 66 million, so saving even 20 million is big for them. And then when Kobe retires, there goes that huge merchandise revenue stream.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7827083/jim-buss-los-angeles-lakers-says-new-cba-cuts-heavily-team-profits

And now that the Clippers have a billionaire sugar daddy, will be a contender for at least the next 5 years, and a growing brand behind the marketability of Chris Paul and Blake Griffin, they're going to be the more attractive Los Angeles destination for free agents who desire the Hollywood lifestyle.

Brace yourself for a long drought. It's coming.

[LkrFan]

No response that involves a basketball take or any good information about who the Lakers are going to get, just name calling. Predictable from someone who has absolutely no logical rebuttal. :lol

I answered your post about me not remembering the 90s. Then you moved the goal post. Hence me calling you a dumbass. :lol

[LkrFan]

You should. The Buss family aren't multibillionaires like Allen, Ballmer, Cuban, etc. The Lakers are their only source of profit. Their operating profit last season was 66 million, so saving even 20 million is big for them. And then when Kobe retires, there goes that huge merchandise revenue stream.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7827083/jim-buss-los-angeles-lakers-says-new-cba-cuts-heavily-team-profits

And now that the Clippers have a billionaire sugar daddy, will be a contender for at least the next 5 years, and a growing brand behind the marketability of Chris Paul and Blake Griffin, they're going to be the more attractive Los Angeles destination for free agents who desire the Hollywood lifestyle.

Brace yourself for a long drought. It's coming.

CP3 happened right after the lockout. LDS owners stepped in for basketball reasons.

MK learned from Logo. I'm not sweating the CBA, like I said.

[LkrFan]

You should. The Buss family aren't multibillionaires like Allen, Ballmer, Cuban, etc. The Lakers are their only source of profit. Their operating profit last season was 66 million, so saving even 20 million is big for them. And then when Kobe retires, there goes that huge merchandise revenue stream.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7827083/jim-buss-los-angeles-lakers-says-new-cba-cuts-heavily-team-profits

And now that the Clippers have a billionaire sugar daddy, will be a contender for at least the next 5 years, and a growing brand behind the marketability of Chris Paul and Blake Griffin, they're going to be the more attractive Los Angeles destination for free agents who desire the Hollywood lifestyle.

Brace yourself for a long drought. It's coming.

Edit: 2012 article? :lol

[Cry Havoc]

http://i.imgur.com/kDfJpj3.jpg

[Cry Havoc]

I answered your post about me not remembering the 90s. Then you moved the goal post. Hence me calling you a dumbass. :lol

So, me pointing out that you guys were terrible throughout the 90s and didn't rang once is moving the goalpost? OK chief. :lol If that's what you consider being a worthy threat in the coming decade, yeah, I'm still gonna take my Spurs and watch your "athletic" teams fizzle in round 1. :lol

[Cry Havoc]

Edit: 2012 article? :lol

How is that not still relevant considering it was the last time the Lakers were at all relevant? :lol

[LkrFan]

I imagine that has got to be worth at least $16,000/year :lol:lol

[LkrFan]

How is that not still relevant considering it was the last time the Lakers were at all relevant? :lol

2013 - Westbrook's injury = Spurs Finals birth
2014 - Ibaka's injury = Spurs Finals birth

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[LkrFan]

How is that not still relevant considering it was the last time the Lakers were at all relevant? :lol

:lol

[baseline bum]

2013 - Westbrook's injury = Spurs Finals birth
2014 - Ibaka's injury = Spurs Finals birth

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Jaime omitting the Perkins injury

[LkrFan]

Jaime omitting the Perkins injury:downspin:

[midnightpulp]

Edit: 2012 article? :lol

What's your argument for not sweating the CBA? All the owners, even the filthy rich ones, don't want to pay too much luxury tax. When the Lakers broke the bank with their 100 million dollar payroll in 2012, they had to pay 30 million in luxury taxes, and that was before the new luxury tax structure. No owner worth his salt wants to give away 30 million in profit for nothing. The Buss family has no other revenue stream to subsidize themselves with. Prokorov, Ballmer, Arinson, they can lose 20 or 30 million and not feel it like Buss. If the Lakers hit the 100 million dollar payroll mark again, they'll have pay 80 million in luxury taxes. Buss can't afford that. The Lakers pulled in 66 million in profit last year, which includes the TV deal, merchandise sales, gate receipts, etc.

That 2012 article is more than relevant.

[Cry Havoc]

2013 - Westbrook's injury = Spurs Finals birth
2014 - Ibaka's injury = Spurs Finals birth

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lol and you say I move the goalposts :lol

It's really affecting my enjoyment of this title though, seriously. :lol

[100%duncan]

Lkrfan stooping so low he decided to compare futures....

We got Kawhi, you got swaggy p. Owned per par.

[Cry Havoc]

Lkrfan stooping so low he decided to compare futures....

We got Kawhi, you got swaggy p. Owned per par.

Not even "next year" futures.

Distant futures. As far off as the next Game of Thrones novel. :lol

[100%duncan]

Not even "next year" futures.
"Spurs future is tbd" of course it's tbd butnone thong's fpr sure we have a better future than theirs

:lol jaime
:lol fredo
Distant futures. As far off as the next Game of Thrones novel. :lol

[Spurs 4 The Win]

2013 - Westbrook's injury = Spurs Finals birth
2014 - Ibaka's injury = Spurs Finals birth

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That shit dont work for 2014, they had Ibaka and we blew them the fuck out in game 5 and beat them in game 6 in okc, try again

[Mel_13]

Jaime omitting the Perkins injury

And Garnett, Yao, Duncan, and on and on.

[TDMVPDPOY]

comparing this years team to 08 team doesnt make sense


37yr old duncan vs whatever age kg was in 08?

[100%duncan]

Lkrfan not takong the bukkake per par.

[LkrFan]

What's your argument for not sweating the CBA? All the owners, even the filthy rich ones, don't want to pay too much luxury tax. When the Lakers broke the bank with their 100 million dollar payroll in 2012, they had to pay 30 million in luxury taxes, and that was before the new luxury tax structure. No owner worth his salt wants to give away 30 million in profit for nothing. The Buss family has no other revenue stream to subsidize themselves with. Prokorov, Ballmer, Arinson, they can lose 20 or 30 million and not feel it like Buss. If the Lakers hit the 100 million dollar payroll mark again, they'll have pay 80 million in luxury taxes. Buss can't afford that. The Lakers pulled in 66 million in profit last year, which includes the TV deal, merchandise sales, gate receipts, etc.

That 2012 article is more than relevant.

Did the $5B TWC deal get rescinded? You're in killa Cali so I figure you should know. :downspin:

[LkrFan]

Lkrfan stooping so low he decided to compare futures....

We got Kawhi, you got swaggy p. Owned per par.

Is Kiwi making the all star game next year? For $16M/per, he better.

[LkrFan]

lol and you say I move the goalposts :lol

It's really affecting my enjoyment of this title though, seriously. :lol

:lol you farmers are the ones who went off topic. I think the Lakers will be OK:

- $32M in committed salaries this season
- $25M in committed salaries the next season

Somebody will take Fredo's money ;)

[100%duncan]

Is Kiwi making the all star game next year? For $16M/per, he better.

You gotta try harder than that jaime :lol

Laker fan of course needs to inflate allstar games as it's the only way for kirby to be "relevant"

[midnightpulp]

Did the $5B TWC deal get rescinded? You're in killa Cali so I figure you should know. :downspin:

Here's the breakdown of the Lakers revenue.

http://www.forbes.com/teams/los-angeles-lakers/

Yes, it includes profits from the TV deal. 66 million profit after all said and done. No way will Buss go into 80 million luxury tax territory and lose 14 million per year. Days of the Lakers outspending other franchises are probably over.

Time for your franchise to actually develop talent and build through the draft. It's a nightmare, I know.

And now you're going to have to compete with Ballmer's money right across the hall.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol you farmers are the ones who went off topic. I think the Lakers will be OK:

- $32M in committed salaries this season
- $25M in committed salaries the next season

Somebody will take Fredo's money ;)
Somebody such as Rudy Gay, Dion Waiters, Amar'e, or Friend Killer :lol

[midnightpulp]

Somebody such as Rudy Gay, Dion Waiters, Amar'e, or Friend Killer :lol

Laker fans are probably hopeful for Durant or Anthony Davis.

Lakers are a 5 year rebuild project, at the very least, no way will Durant (who will still be ringless in 2016) want to go to a 35-40 win team. The Lakers aren't an attractive destination anymore. The Clippers have supplanted them as the "hip" LA team.

[LkrFan]

Here's the breakdown of the Lakers revenue.

http://www.forbes.com/teams/los-angeles-lakers/

Yes, it includes profits from the TV deal. 66 million profit after all said and done. No way will Buss go into 80 million luxury tax territory and lose 14 million per year. Days of the Lakers outspending other franchises are probably over.

Time for your franchise to actually develop talent and build through the draft. It's a nightmare, I know.

And now you're going to have to compete with Ballmer's money right across the hall.

You are partially correct. Fredo will indeed pay luxury taxes...for the right players (just like his dad). No, he won't for players like Amare or Rudy Gay, as bell boy suggested. :lol

So if there is a way to significantly upgrade the roster, he'll do it. Like I said before, and you farmers chose to ignore, MK traded for CP0 after the lockout fair and square. LDS owners stepped in and killed the deal thru collusion. MK is quite competent son. :)

[LkrFan]

Laker fans are probably hopeful for Durant or Anthony Davis.

Lakers are a 5 year rebuild project, at the very least, no way will Durant (who will still be ringless in 2016) want to go to a 35-40 win team. The Lakers aren't an attractive destination anymore. The Clippers have supplanted them as the "hip" LA team.

Clippers are a great regular season team, yes. What do they have to show for it? They're going nowhere with "the best closer since Jordan" as their best player. Plus Glen is massively overrated.

These are things we know. :)

[LkrFan]

You gotta try harder than that jaime :lol

Laker fan of course needs to inflate allstar games as it's the only way for kirby to be "relevant"

You OK with paying that much small market money for a role player? That's the point. Kobe has nothing to do with it.

[Clipper Nation]

Clippers are a great regular season team, yes. What do they have to show for it? They're going nowhere with "the best closer since Jordan" as their best player. Plus Glen is massively overrated.

These are things we know. :)
Ballmer's money > Fredo's money :downspin:

[LkrFan]

Ballmer's money > Fredo's money :downspin:

:lolK - who y'all gonna get to propel you outta the 2nd round? Even Durbeta been to the Finals. :lol

[LkrFan]

That shit dont work for 2014, they had Ibaka and we blew them the fuck out in game 5 and beat them in game 6 in okc, try again
Ibaka was NOT healthyPERIOD

[midnightpulp]

You are partially correct. Fredo will indeed pay luxury taxes...for the right players (just like his dad). No, he won't for players like Amare or Rudy Gay, as bell boy suggested. :lol

So if there is a way to significantly upgrade the roster, he'll do it. Like I said before, and you farmers chose to ignore, MK traded for CP0 after the lockout fair and square. LDS owners stepped in and killed the deal thru collusion. MK is quite competent son. :)

I don't think you're understanding that the luxury tax penalty is now significantly higher than when Jerry Buss was throwing money around. It's no longer a 1.00 to 1.00 penalty. It can scale up to nearly 4.00 per every dollar, so a 100 million dollar roster will cost you 180 million. The Buss family's net worth is about 600 million, so if the Lakers operate at a loss of 15 million for, say, 3 straight years, Buss loses 8% of his net worth just on roster payroll :lol No businessman would ever, ever do that.

Why do you keep bringing up the Chris Paul trade? They off loaded Gasol's and Odom's contracts, so it made sense from a financial perspective. I honestly thought the trade was bad for the Lakers at the time. You don't break up a dominant frontline for a PG.

And why would FAs now choose the Lakers over the Clippers? Because of "history?" Right now, the Clippers are way more attractive, have a much, much bigger bankroll, and will be contenders for the next 5 years.

Dig in. It's gonna get lean. Best thing for the Lakers to do is tank for like 3 seasons straight.

[LkrFan]

The Clippers even gave Glen a promoti:loln. SMH

[Clipper Nation]

The Clippers even gave Glen a promoti:loln. SMH
Has Dumbleavy been officially hired yet? :lol

[midnightpulp]

Clippers are a great regular season team, yes. What do they have to show for it? They're going nowhere with "the best closer since Jordan" as their best player. Plus Glen is massively overrated.

These are things we know. :)

What do the Lakers have right now?

A broken down Kobe and Byron Scott/Mike Dunleavy?

[LkrFan]

I don't think you're understanding that the luxury tax penalty is now significantly higher than when Jerry Buss was throwing money around. It's no longer a 1.00 to 1.00 penalty. It can scale up to nearly 4.00 per every dollar, so a 100 million dollar roster will cost you 180 million. The Buss family's net worth is about 600 million, so if the Lakers operate at a loss of 15 million for, say, 3 straight years, Buss loses 8% of his net worth just on roster payroll :lol No businessman would ever, ever do that.

Why do you keep bringing up the Chris Paul trade? They off loaded Gasol's and Odom's contracts, so it made sense from a financial perspective. I honestly thought the trade was bad for the Lakers at the time. You don't break up a dominant frontline for a PG.

And why would FAs now choose the Lakers over the Clippers? Because of "history?" Right now, the Clippers are way more attractive, have a much, much bigger bankroll, and will be contenders for the next 5 years.

Dig in. It's gonna get lean. Best thing for the Lakers to do is tank for like 3 seasons straight.
I fully understand the repeater tax. I stand by my statement that if the right deal comes along Fredo will pay it.

The CP0 deal proves to me that MK fully understands the new CBA. We'll be alright. I trust MK.

When CP0 is gone, so will Clippers' relevancy. He's already showing signs of wear and tear.

Oh and I'm OK with another tank. We'll see what they do soon enough.

[100%duncan]

You OK with paying that much small market money for a role player? That's the point. Kobe has nothing to do with it.

You OK with paying kirby 48.5 to sit and tweet? :lol

You are one to talk with contributions and salaries given your team's situation. No escape Jaime :lol

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Jaime :downspin:ing every which way

[baseline bum]

I don't think you're understanding that the luxury tax penalty is now significantly higher than when Jerry Buss was throwing money around. It's no longer a 1.00 to 1.00 penalty. It can scale up to nearly 4.00 per every dollar, so a 100 million dollar roster will cost you 180 million. The Buss family's net worth is about 600 million, so if the Lakers operate at a loss of 15 million for, say, 3 straight years, Buss loses 8% of his net worth just on roster payroll :lol No businessman would ever, ever do that.

Why do you keep bringing up the Chris Paul trade? They off loaded Gasol's and Odom's contracts, so it made sense from a financial perspective. I honestly thought the trade was bad for the Lakers at the time. You don't break up a dominant frontline for a PG.

And why would FAs now choose the Lakers over the Clippers? Because of "history?" Right now, the Clippers are way more attractive, have a much, much bigger bankroll, and will be contenders for the next 5 years.

Dig in. It's gonna get lean. Best thing for the Lakers to do is tank for like 3 seasons straight.

Tanking for 3 years straight won't work since Phoenix has their 2015 first round pick and Orlando their 2017 first rounder. The best thing the Lakers can do is let Kobe chase Kareem's record while they win 38 games a season and hope that's enough to get people to come to Staples.

[midnightpulp]

I fully understand the repeater tax. I stand by my statement that if the right deal comes along Fredo will pay it.

The CP0 deal proves to me that MK fully understands the new CBA. We'll be alright. I trust MK.

When CP0 is gone, so will Clippers' relevancy. He's already showing signs of wear and tear.

Oh and I'm OK with another tank. We'll see what they do soon enough.

Blake Griffin is just as big a star and a better player.

Why would Jim Buss, who is "poor" by NBA owner standards, operate for several years at a loss?

[midnightpulp]

Tanking for 3 years straight won't work since Phoenix has their 2015 first round pick and Orlando their 2017 first rounder. The best thing the Lakers can do is let Kobe chase Kareem's record while they win 38 games a season and hope that's enough to get people to come to Staples.

:lol

I forgot about that.

"I trust MK." :lmao

[baseline bum]

Oh and I'm OK with another tank. We'll see what they do soon enough.

So that Phoenix gets a better pick?

[LkrFan]

:lol

I forgot about that.

"I trust MK." :lmao

I forgot about det too. Dayum. :(

[LkrFan]

Blake Griffin is just as big a star and a better player.

Why would Jim Buss, who is "poor" by NBA owner standards, operate for several years at a loss?

You don't believe that shit son. :lol Blake goes as CP goes. And when his monkeyass athleticism goes, so will his relevancy. See 2014 Finals Wade or Cleveland's Shawn Blimp as examples.

I highly doubt the Lakers are operating at a loss. Maybe not as much profits, but definitely not a loss.

[LkrFan]

So that Phoenix gets a better pick?
The years that we owe 1st round picks, we'll be in the playoffs. Guaranteed.

Still sucks that we're in this predicament though. :lol

[baseline bum]

The years that we owe 1st round picks, we'll be in the playoffs. Guaranteed.

Still sucks that we're in this predicament though. :lol

2015 playoffs? How the fuck you gonna get that accomplished?

[LkrFan]

2015 playoffs? How the fuck you gonna get that accomplished?

We have like $36M in committed contracts. We'll field a competitive team with the remaining cap space. Whether that's Melo or Love paired with Kobe (who is 100%), + our draft pick - I'm expecting the playoffs. May be one and done, but playoffs nonetheless. :lol

[baseline bum]

We have like $36M in committed contracts. We'll field a competitive team with the remaining cap space. Whether that's Melo or Love paired with Kobe (who is 100%), + our draft pick - I'm expecting the playoffs.

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/assets/3692973/kobefail.gif

^ Det ain't a playoff move Hector

[LkrFan]

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/assets/3692973/kobefail.gif

^ Det ain't a playoff move Hector
:lol - det is why we put him back in the garage for a 76-game tuneup. He good now son.

[baseline bum]

:lol - det is why we put him back in the garage for a 76-game tuneup. He good now son.

Ever since he got cubby's shit bag strapped to him a nigga's got no lift.

[LkrFan]

Ever since cubby's shit bag strapped to him a nigga's got no lift.
:lol - We'll see. Remember, he hasn't dunked on nobody in years. He has been playing beneath the rim for quite some time. Unlike Wade, he doesn't have to be the superior athlete to score on his man. He's adjusted his game and was having one of his best years under Pringles until he busted his Achilles.

[Franklin]

we would beat 04' pistons imho. We beat them in 05 and I think the team we have now is only better than that 05' team. I doubt we could beat 08' celtics, a team of hungry veterans who were fighting like they would die after the series if they didn't win, tbh.

[midnightpulp]

We have like $36M in committed contracts. We'll field a competitive team with the remaining cap space. Whether that's Melo or Love paired with Kobe (who is 100%), + our draft pick - I'm expecting the playoffs. May be one and done, but playoffs nonetheless. :lol

And then you woke up.

Both players are in win now mode, especially Love.

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Then Kirby signs for 58.5 :downspin:

Kirby will follow up 48.5 with 62.4 to add insult to injury :lmao

[LkrFan]

And then you woke up.

Both players are in win now mode, especially Love.

You 100% sure we can't get either?

[LkrFan]

we would beat 04' pistons imho. We beat them in 05 and I think the team we have now is only better than that 05' team. I doubt we could beat 08' celtics, a team of hungry veterans who were fighting like they would die after the series if they didn't win, tbh.

Finally, back on topic. You're wrong though. Both teams, during the years they were constructed would beat any of the Spurs championship teams.

[Clipper Nation]

You don't believe that shit son. :lol Blake goes as CP goes. And when his monkeyass athleticism goes, so will his relevancy. See 2014 Finals Wade or Cleveland's Shawn Blimp as examples.
The difference between Blake and DWade/Kemp is that he actually cares about his career, puts in work, and has been developing non-athleticism skills for the past three years....

Also, after that stretch last year where Blake played the best basketball of his young career with Choke Paul's heroballing ass sidelined with an "injury," the "Blake goes as Choke goes" excuse holds no water :lol

[LkrFan]

The difference between Blake and DWade/Kemp is that he actually cares about his career, puts in work, and has been developing non-athleticism skills for the past three years....

Also, after that stretch last year where Blake played the best basketball of his young career with Choke Paul's heroballing ass sidelined with an "injury," the "Blake goes as Choke goes" excuse holds no water :lol

2:lol-game sample? What's next - 5year / $80M contract? :lmao

[baseline bum]

We have like $36M in committed contracts. We'll field a competitive team with the remaining cap space. Whether that's Melo or Love paired with Kobe (who is 100%), + our draft pick - I'm expecting the playoffs. May be one and done, but playoffs nonetheless. :lol

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=236352&p=7451369#post7451369

[Clipper Nation]

2:lol-game sample? What's next - 5year / $80M contract? :lmao
A 6-game sample size was enough for Kirby to pocket 48.5 :lol

[Thread]

2:lol-game sample? What's next - 5year / $80M contract? :lmao

CN, with a clean clock.

tee, hee.

[Clipper Nation]

CN, with a clean clock.

tee, hee.
Though Fredo lodged the 48.5 for a whopping 6 games (2-4 record in that span).

ha, ha.

[Cry Havoc]

Finally, back on topic. You're wrong though. Both teams, during the years they were constructed would beat any of the Spurs championship teams.

:lmao this guy. Gets completely demolished in the thread so much that he goes from "we're in long term rebuild mode" to "I hope we'll be ok" then tries to talk trash about all 5 Spurs title teams when his squad is responsible for 2 of the weakest title teams in NBA history. :lmao

[Cry Havoc]

If they got by the Lakers them two years? Hell fuck no. Those were two of the greatest defensive teams in NBA history. Otherwise Kobe is sitting on 7.


:lol you farmers are the ones who went off topic.

You couldn't even stay on topic in your opening statement. :lol

[baseline bum]

CN, with a clean clock.

tee, hee.

Not even sure why you're allowed to talk back to CN after he dropped 48 on your ass

[Thread]

Though Fredo lodged the 48.5 for a whopping 6 games (2-4 record in that span).

ha, ha.

lmao! He got ya good, CN.

[Thread]

Not even sure why you're allowed to talk back to CN after he dropped 48 on your ass

I'm jealous of this 5th. tee, hee.

[Clipper Nation]

lmao! He got ya good, CN.
Though Fredo got you good with that 48.5.

[Thread]

^Yer tail feathers are on fire, CN. RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Clipper Nation]

^Yer tail feathers are on fire, CN. RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fredo's money was on fire after 48.5.

[Thread]

Fredo's money was on fire after 48.5.

What time is it, CN? You have the cleanest clock on the Board.

tee, hee.

[Thebesteva]

2008 Celtics? Maybe. Pop would've coached circles around Doc Rivers and Duncan would've gone apeshit playing KG.

I don't think anyone was beating Detroit in 04 tbh.

I dunno man, that Celtics team was incredible. They kept fucking coasting and losing on the road for the first 3 rounds but ultimately, their defense was one of the best of all time.

[Clipper Nation]

What time is it, CN? You have the cleanest clock on the Board.

tee, hee.
It's time to laugh at 48.5 some more :lol

[Cry Havoc]

I dunno man, that Celtics team was incredible. They kept fucking coasting and losing on the road for the first 3 rounds but ultimately, their defense was one of the best of all time.

04 Pistons vs 14 Spurs would have been amazing to watch. Best offense in the modern Era vs. Best defense maybe ever. I still think rip would have had problems stopping anyone. Tayshaun vs. Kawhi would have been fireworks. Diaw and Big Ben in the post would have been perhaps two of the most polar opposite bigs in history going at it.

[LkrFan]

04 Pistons vs 14 Spurs would have been amazing to watch. Best offense in the modern Era vs. Best defense maybe ever. I still think rip would have had problems stopping anyone. Tayshaun vs. Kawhi would have been fireworks. Diaw and Big Ben in the post would have been perhaps two of the most polar opposite bigs in history going at it.

:lmao

[Cry Havoc]

:lmao

We just won the Finals by 75+ points against an elite defensive team.

[Robz4000]

I dunno man, that Celtics team was incredible. They kept fucking coasting and losing on the road for the first 3 rounds but ultimately, their defense was one of the best of all time.

As mid stated they were very overrated, especially their depth. They also didn't have the chemistry San Antonio would've had. They had weak points on their D that Pop could've attacked (Allen and an inexperienced Rondo). I'd give the Celtics an edge due to talent and the Spurs nearly being too old, but the fact the Spurs at that point were regulars in the Finals would've been an important factor.

[Robz4000]

We just won the Finals by 75+ points against an elite defensive team.

Don't mind Eduardo, his taco-riddled mind is still reeling from 48.5 and The Quit. Doesn't help their tank only netted them the 7th pick.

[LkrFan]

We just won the Finals by 75+ points against an elite defensive team - coached by Spo.

FIFY

[Cry Havoc]

FIFY

You guys would hire him tomorrow and be howling about getting one of the best coaches in the league all the while.

[Ghazi]

2004 Pistons were nothing special. They wouldnt be able to score enough to beat the Spurs.

[Ghazi]

2008 Spurs were one of the weakest and oldest and fragile editions of the team Ive seen. Celtics wouldve won in 6

[Malik Hairston]

2008 Spurs were a weak team that was fortunate to destroy Phoenix's morale in game 1 of the opening round, tbh..Duncan's decline began, the role players were way too old, and Pop still hadn't made the leap as a coach, yet..the antiquated style of those Spurs wasn't going to beat teams that were more talented..

The 2008 Lakers weren't anything special(they were missing Bynum and Ariza, and relying on players like Vujacic and Radmanovic as key rotation pieces), and they easily defeated those Spurs..the West was pretty weak from 2008 to 2010, tbh..

The 2004 Pistons were the 18th ranked offense in the NBA, they played in a terrible Eastern conference, and were fortunate to have played an imploding Lakers team with an injured Karl Malone and old-ass, has-been role players..the 2014 Spurs sweep them, easily..

[TampaDude]

Don't know about the 2008 Celtics, but I think the 2004 Spurs lose to the 2004 Pistons. The 2005 Pistons, basically the same team, took us to 7, and that was with Horry having a monster Finals. Horry sucked in 2004. Pistons would've rang in '04 regardless, IMHO.

[100%duncan]

:lmao this guy. Gets completely demolished in the thread so much that he goes from "we're in long term rebuild mode" to "I hope we'll be ok" then tries to talk trash about all 5 Spurs title teams when his squad is responsible for 2 of the weakest title teams in NBA history. :lmao

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/bennet-ooh.gif