Derrick Henry

[Avante]

There is this misconception that Alabama is a running back U, nope, not even close. They went decades without any stud backs, (other than Shaun Alexander) It 's just been in the last decade that they "finally" started showing up in Tuscaloosa with Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson, Eddie Lacy and now T.J Yelton. But....it's the soph Derrick Henry who might be better than all of them. He;s another speed/with size guy that the Crimson Tide recruit, they stay away from scat back types (Sproles, Johnson, Charles) They want guys who pack a wallop and some wiggle. That's Derrick Henry.

Auburn is running back U when it comes to the SEC.

James Brooks
Ronnie Brown
Joe Cribbs
Bo Jackson
Stephen Davis
William Andrews
Cadillac Williams
Rudi Johnson

Penn State, USC, Miami, Syracuse other running back U's.

[Vito Corleone]

do you really believe the BS you type?

No school comes close to USC

Mike Garrett
OJ Simpson
Charles White
Marcus Allen
Reggie Bush

That is just their Heisman winners

Outside of those guys you have past greats like Frank Gifford, Joe Arnett, and guys like Lindale White, Ricky Bell, Anthony Davis, Joel McKnight, and Justin Fargus.

And even if you are talking about recent success at that position, Auburn is still sitting behind teams like Texas who had a damn good run with Ricky Williams, Cedric Benson, jamal Charles, and Charles Ogbonnaya to name a few.

[Avante]

do you really believe the BS you type?

No school comes close to USC

Mike Garrett
OJ Simpson
Charles White
Marcus Allen
Reggie Bush

That is just their Heisman winners

Outside of those guys you have past greats like Frank Gifford, Joe Arnett, and guys like Lindale White, Ricky Bell, Anthony Davis, Joel McKnight, and Justin Fargus.

And even if you are talking about recent success at that position, Auburn is still sitting behind teams like Texas who had a damn good run with Ricky Williams, Cedric Benson, jamal Charles, and Charles Ogbonnaya to name a few.

Do you take the time to read what was really said? I said.......as far as the ***SEC**** goes it's Auburn...ok? Pay attention...alright?

Yes no team compares to USC, so add...Clarence Davis, Ricky Ervins, Sam "Bam" Cunningham, Lynn Cain and it's..."Jaguar" Jon Arnett:hat

Auburn has had more NFL 1000 yard rushers than Texas with...Cribbs, Brown, Andrews, Johnson, Brooks, Davis.

Penn State

Franco Harris...HOF
Lenny Moore...HOF
Lydell Mitchell
Curt Warner
Gary Brown
Larry Johnson

All NFL 1000 yard rushers....John Cappelletti a Heisman winner.

Miami

Edgerrin James
Rick Casares
Otis Anderson
Chuck Foreman
Willis McGahee
Clinton Portis
Frank Gore

All 1000 yard rushers in the NFL.

Syracuse

Jimmy Brown...HOF
Floyd Little...HOF
Larry Csonka...HOF
Jim Nance....first Patriot 1000 yarder
Joe Morris..1000 yarder

Arizona State

John Henry Johnson...HOF
Gerald Riggs...Falcons All Time leading rusher
Art Malone
Benny Malone.

Oklahoma

Steve Owens...Heisman
Adrian Peterson
Joe Washington
Billy Sims...Heisman
Kenny King
Greg Pruitt
DeMarco Murry

Georgia

Herschel Walker...Heisman
Terrell Davis
Rodney Hampton
Garrison Hearst
Knowshon Moreno

Fresno State

Ryan Matthews
Lorenzo Neal
Michael Pittman
Aaron Craver
Ron Rivers

Pitt

Tony Dorsett..HOF
Curtis Martin...HOF
Craig "Ironhead" Heyward
Lesean McCoy
Kevan Barlow


UCLA

Freeman McNeil
Wendell Tyler
Gaston Green
Maurice Jones Drew
Mel Farr
Skip Hicks
Deshuan Foster
Theotis Brown

Texas A&M

John David Crow...Heisman
Curtis Dickey....only NFL running back to ever be world ranked in the 100m
Johnny Hector
Greg Hill
Ernest Jackson

Texas

Earl Campbell..HOF
Ricky Williams..Heisman
Priest Holmes
Cedric Benson
Jamaal Charles
Eric Metcalf


Hell, Notre Dame

Paul Hornung...HOF
Jerome Bettis
Ricky Watters
Ryan Grant
Greg Bell
Allan Pinkett
Nick Pietrasonte
Rocky Bliear

Florida

Emmitt Smith...HOF
Fred Taylor
Neal Anderson
Erric Rhett
John L. Williams

Oklahoma State

Barry Sanders..Heisman/HOF
Thurman Thomas...HOF
Terry Miller

LSU

Jim Taylor...HOF
Harvey Williams
Billy Cannon...Heisman
Dalton Hilliard
Steve Van Buren...HOF
Charles Alexander

Kansas

Gale Sayers..HOF
John Riggins..HOF
Delvin Williams
Curtis McClinton

Ohio State

Eddie George...Heisman
Jim Otis
Matt Snell
Archie Griffin....dual Heisman winner
Robert Smith
John Brockington
Pete Johnson

Nebraska

Mike Rozier Heisman
Ahman Green Packers all time leading rusher
Roger Craig
Tom Rathman

Now if you can come up with an...SEC...team with more stud running backs than Auburn, I'd love to see it.

Then there's the other end of the spectrum.

UOP...Dick Bass...first Ram 1000 yard rusher
U of San Francisco....Ollie Matson...HOF
Coe...Fred Jackson
Furman...Chris Warren
Compton JC...Joe "The Jet" Perry...HOF
Edward Waters,,,,Jim "Cannonball" Butler
Abilene Christian...Wilbert Montgomery
NCA&T...J.D.Smith (out gained Jimmy Brown one season)
North Texas State...Abner Haynes
Colorado St...Lawrence McCutheon
Long Beach State...Terry Metcalf
Jackson State....Walter Payton...HOF
Ball State...Timmy Brown
Prairie View...Clemon Daneils...first Raider 1000 yard rusher
Yale...Calvin Hill...first Cowboy 1000 yard rusher
West Texas State...Eugene "Mercury" Morris
Azusa Pacific...Christian "The Nigerian Nightmare" Okoye
Morgan State....Leroy Kelly...HOF
Texas Southern...Willie Ellison
Maryland State...Emerson Boozer
Washington & Jefferson...."Deacon" Dan Towler
San Diego State....Marshall Faulk...HOF
NWLa..Joe Delaney
Gonzaga...Tony Canadeo...HOF
Nevada-Reno...Marion Mottley...HOF
New Mexico Highlands...Carl Garrett
Western Illinois...Larry Garron
Villanova...Brian Westbrook
No college....Carlton "Cookie" Gilchrist....the old AFL's first 1000 yard rusher.

Trivia

I was an NCAA QB, my first season as an NFLer I was switched to running back, had a 1000 yard season as a rookie, who am I?

[Avante]

Where did Vito go, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

[Avante]

It apears the guy is the real deal.

Keep an eye on Georgia's Nick Chubb and Pitt's James Conner.

[Pelicans78]

There is this misconception that Alabama is a running back U, nope, not even close. They went decades without any stud backs, (other than Shaun Alexander) It 's just been in the last decade that they "finally" started showing up in Tuscaloosa with Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson, Eddie Lacy and now T.J Yelton. But....it's the soph Derrick Henry who might be better than all of them. He;s another speed/with size guy that the Crimson Tide recruit, they stay away from scat back types (Sproles, Johnson, Charles) They want guys who pack a wallop and some wiggle. That's Derrick Henry.

Auburn is running back U when it comes to the SEC.

James Brooks
Ronnie Brown
Joe Cribbs
Bo Jackson
Stephen Davis
William Andrews
Cadillac Williams
Rudi Johnson

Penn State, USC, Miami, Syracuse other running back U's.

What about Georgia?

Hershel Walker
Rodney Hamptom
Tim Worley
Lars Tate
Garrison Hearst
Terrell Davis
Robert Edwards
Olandis Gary
Knowshon Moreno

[Pelicans78]

Brandon Bridge is a QB instead of a RB, but he could be the real deal.

[Avante]

What about Georgia?

Hershel Walker
Rodney Hamptom
Tim Worley
Lars Tate
Garrison Hearst
Terrell Davis
Robert Edwards
Olandis Gary
Knowshon Moreno

I have Georgia mentioned above.

Auburn also had....

Tucker Fredrickson
Ben Tate
James Bostic
Brent Fullwood
Lionel James
Tre Mason

[Avante]

The closer.

[Avante]

The next great Alabama back if he stays healthy.

[Avante]

If Gurly wouldn't have been injured, the Gurley/Nick Chubb combo would have been the best in the NCAA, since that didn't happen it's now the T.J.Yeldon/Derrick Henry duo. Not really a thunder n' lightnin' duo, Yeldon a load himself.

[TampaDude]

Henry is LEGIT. I think he's even better than Yeldon.

[Avante]

Henry is LEGIT. I think he's even better than Yeldon.

I like Yeldon, he doesn't waste anything, always heading up field and quickly. Henry more of a slasher with power and more speed than it appears.

[Thread]

He ain't Major Ogilvie, but, he'll suffice.

[Avante]

He ain't Major Ogilvie, but, he'll suffice.

Major Ogilive wouldn't make a zit on the ass of Derrick Henry.

[Thread]

Major Ogilive wouldn't make a zit on the ass of Derrick Henry.

Major Ogilvie was a winner. Derrick Henry ain't won yet.

[Avante]

Major Ogilvie was a winner. Derrick Henry ain't won yet.

The difference in speed with size between the two is dramatic.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjnH4S6DXjs

[Thread]

^You're talking about speed & power,,,I'm talking about repeating a National Championship.

[Avante]

^You're talking about speed & power,,,I'm talking about repeating a National Championship.

This thread is about a lone running back in Derrick Henry not a team accomplishment. Who was better the SB champ Timmy Smith or the never even played in a SB Barry Sanders?

Jim Brown was the first of the big fast power backs.

[Thread]

This thread is about a lone running back in Derrick Henry not a team accomplishment. Who was better the SB champ Timmy Smith or the never even played in a SB Barry Sanders?

Jim Brown was the first of the big fast power backs.

Fine. But, I'm talking about repeating a National Championship.

[Avante]

Fine. But, I'm talking about repeating a National Championship.

So you judge backs by how many championships their...TEAM...wins?

This thread isn't about Alabama and the championship, it's about a running back who looks like next season he'll be a real force. He's a lot like this guy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPgwhhLJmkE

[Thread]

So you judge backs by how many championships their...TEAM...wins?

When they're an integral part of that championship(s) you damn right.

[Avante]

When they're an integral part of that championship(s) you damn right.

Nobody thinks Emmitt Smith was better than Barry Sanders, many many times Emmitt was 5 yards down the field before he met a defender. He had a great QB, HOF receiver and a monster O line. Sanders had none of that.

Derrick Henry is by far a better back than Ogilvie all things being equal. Yes I saw Ogilvie play many times.

[Thread]

Nobody thinks Emmitt Smith was better than Barry Sanders, many many times Emmitt was 5 yards down the field before he met a defender. He had a great QB, HOF receiver and a monster O line. Sanders had none of that.

Derrick Henry is by far a better back than Ogilvie all things being equal. Yes I saw Ogilvie play many times.

When Henry is an integral part of repeat National Championships we'll agree.

I don't do symbolism over substance, Avante.

It's my religion.

[Avante]

When Henry is an integral part of repeat National Championships we'll agree.

I don't do symbolism over substance, Avante.

It's my religion.

The bottom line when it comes to backs is their abilty, not team success or lack of it. According to you Trent Dilfer was better than Dan Marino, Dilfer winning his SB while Marino lost his.

Would you rather have the Major or Henry?

[Thread]

The bottom line when it comes to backs is their abilty, not team success or lack of it. According to you Trent Dilfer was better than Dan Marino, Dilfer winning his SB while Marino lost his.

Would you rather have the Major or Henry?

Major.

Henry hasn't shown me much. He's late into the hole thereafter can't maximize the excellent work of the offensive line.

[Avante]

Major.

Henry hasn't shown me much. He's late into the hole thereafter can't maximize the excellent work of the offensive line.

The guy hasn't shown much? How about averaging over 6 yards a carry so far?

The guy is 6-3 240 pounds and runs a 4.5 40. What are you looking at?

[Thread]

The guy hasn't shown much? How about averaging over 6 yards a carry so far?

The guy is 6-3 240 pounds and runs a 4.5 40. What are you looking at?

...His tardiness in hitting the hole. He's leaving multiple yards on the field. That has put us in danger of losing several games.

[AlexJones]

why did old people discover the internet

[Thread]

^Simple:::a path to torture the Suns.

[Avante]

The ability of any running back has zero to do with how successful his team is/isn't. The two greatest running backs from a "wow, did I really see that? were Gale Sayers and Barry Sanders neither ever played on a great team.

Now look at all the success the Patriots have had, who were their great running backs?

[Avante]

Jerome Bettis, Earl Campell, Jim Brown wore defenses down, now it's easier for everything else to work. Derrick Henry will be that kind of back next season, a guy who beats up a defense. By the middle of the third quarter a defense is bruised and battered, a big back does make a difference.

[Thread]

^To Hell with next season. Bust the Buckeye's hole then FSU's after that.

[Avante]

^To Hell with next season. Bust the Buckeye's hole then FSU's after that.

My point was Yeldon will be gone next season and it should be Henry's show.

The difference in size/speed and quality depth will take it's toll on Ohio State. Watch for Henry to seal the deal.

[Thread]

^Seal it then.

[TampaDude]

^To Hell with next season. Bust the Buckeye's hole then FSU's after that.

Fuck yeah! SEC, bitches!

[Avante]

The next great Bama back.

[Avante]

Really like this Jenkins kid, he has that great combo of speed/size/wiggle.

So who can tell what Ohio State running back was the big star of a SB winning team?

[Blake]

why did old people discover the internet

[NFO]

The difference in size/speed and quality depth will take it's toll on Ohio State. Watch for Henry to seal the deal.

lol

Henry is the real deal though, just like a Mr. Tom Matte taking handoffs from Broadway Joe

[Avante]

lol

Henry is the real deal though, just like a Mr. Tom Matte taking handoffs from Broadway Joe

Tom Matte a NY Jet, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

[NFO]

Tom Matte a NY Jet, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep I goofed that one up. I can admit my mistakes. You just cover them up.

[Avante]

Yep I goofed that one up. I can admit my mistakes. You just cover them up.

That was funny.."Mr.Tom Matte taking hand offs from Broadway Joe"...when it was real obvious you had no idea who Tom Matte was.

Dude, stay at your level, ok?

[NFO]

That was funny.."Mr.Tom Matte taking hand offs from Broadway Joe"...when it was real obvious you had no idea who Tom Matte was.

Dude, stay at your level, ok?

Whatever gramps, your just a fat old man who can't admit when he is wrong. Like I don't know who Tom Matte was. Never really followed his pro career with the Baltimore Colts.

Like I said I can admit when I am wrong you can't and travel down the road of stubborn stupidity.

[Avante]

Whatever gramps, your just a fat old man who can't admit when he is wrong. Like I don't know who Tom Matte was. Never really followed his pro career with the Baltimore Colts.

Like I said I can admit when I am wrong you can't and travel down the road of stubborn stupidity.

Why lie guy? You had no idea who Tom Matte was, and it's obvious. Like I said...."stay on your level".....ok? Dude, who was that running back out of Mid Eastern Shore who did take handoffs from Broadway Joe? That's that other level amigo.

[NFO]

Who is the guy that predicts the opposite of what actually happens?

Grab a mirror it might help you out.

[Avante]

Who is the guy that predicts the opposite of what actually happens?

Grab a mirror it might help you out.

Whoa whoa whoa....dude I asked you a question, ok? So who was that back out of MES who did take handoffs from Broadway Joe?

Well?

Don't try and play trivia dummy then bail, got it?

[NFO]

Whoa whoa whoa....dude I asked you a question, ok? So who was that back out of MES who did take handoffs from Broadway Joe?

Well?

Don't try and play trivia dummy then bail, got it?

Who said I wanted to play trivia. I answered a (as in singular) question. Didn't know I signed up for additional questions.

I know you want to try and ask more questions, which is fine, to justify to yourself why you think whatever it is you think. Sad

[Avante]

Who said I wanted to play trivia. I answered a (as in singular) question. Didn't know I signed up for additional questions.

I know you want to try and ask more questions, which is fine, to justify to yourself why you think whatever it is you think. Sad

You didn't ask me a trivia question over in that track thread?

[NFO]

You didn't ask me a trivia question over in that track thread?

Yeah, how is that going?

[Avante]

Yeah, how is that going?


I had the answer the second you asked it, but.....you are misunderstanding the question. Check out who ran for the USA Olympic team in 1948 and then tell me if you still want to ask that question.

[NFO]

I had the answer the second you asked it,

Well good for you, yet you haven't posted it.



but.....

excuse.



Check out who ran for the USA Olympic team in 1948 and then tell me if you still want to ask that question.

Don't care, other than Mr. Dillard who won gold.

[Avante]

Ok man, Barney Ewell is who you are talking about.

[NFO]

That is not correct. Mr. Ewell ran in the 48 Olympics, the sprinter I am referring to did not.

[Avante]

That is not correct. Mr. Ewell ran in the 48 Olympics, the sprinter I am referring to did not.

I know I just assumed you read whatever Google site you were on wrong.

For someone to turn down a shot at the Olympics who could run with Harrison Dillard makes no sense. What.."I don't need no stinking medals"...?

I'm thinking something is wrong here.

[NFO]

I know I just assumed you read whatever Google site you were on wrong.

Never used Google for this one pal. I know a few of this individuals family members personally.



For someone to turn down a shot at the Olympics who could run with Harrison Dillard makes no sense. What.."I don't need no stinking medals"...?

Don't know the exact reason he did. Tired from the war, pressure to run family business may have been contributing factors to that decision.




I'm thinking something is wrong here.

There is. Your answer.

[Avante]

Never used Google for this one pal. I know a few of this individuals family members personally.




Don't know the exact reason he did. Tired from the war, pressure to run family business may have been contributing factors to that decision.





There is. Your answer.

Done lost interest.

[NFO]

Done lost interest.

Thanks for playing. Better luck next time.

[Avante]

Thanks for playing. Better luck next time.

So you Googled it wrong, I suspected that.

[NFO]

So you Googled it wrong, I suspected that.

Didn't use Google, didn't have to.

Don't feel bad. It is a hard question. Only the best of the best, and may be not even those folks could name that indiviudal off the top of their head and would have to do some detailed reserarch to even get it.

[Avante]

Didn't use Google, didn't have to.

Don't feel bad. It is a hard question. Only the best of the best, and may be not even those folks could name that indiviudal off the top of their head and would have to do some detailed reserarch to even get it.

So ya fucked up and this is your way of covering it up. I had a feeling that was what was going on.

[NFO]

So ya fucked up and this is your way of covering it up. I had a feeling that was what was going on.

Nope.

Don't feel bad. It is a hard question. Only the best of the best, and may be not even those folks could name that indiviudal off the top of their head and would have to do some detailed reserarch to even get it.

Once again thanks for playing and better luck next time.

[Avante]

Nope.

Don't feel bad. It is a hard question. Only the best of the best, and may be not even those folks could name that indiviudal off the top of their head and would have to do some detailed reserarch to even get it.

Once again thanks for playing and better luck next time.

So now you're down to simply lying, wow. I'm used to destroying little shits like you so no big deal.

[NFO]

So now you're down to simply lying, wow. I'm used to destroying little shits like you so no big deal.

Don't feel bad. It is a hard question. Only the best of the best, and may be not even those folks could name that indiviudal off the top of their head and would have to do some detailed reserarch to even get it.

Once again thanks for playing and better luck next time.

[Avante]

Don't feel bad. It is a hard question. Only the best of the best, and may be not even those folks could name that indiviudal off the top of their head and would have to do some detailed reserarch to even get it.

Once again thanks for playing and better luck next time.

So you are now just a fucking liar. Got your ass kicked slick.

Until you admit you lied we are done.

[NFO]

So you are now just a fucking liar. Got your ass kicked slick.

Until you admit you lied we are done.

Nope. Asked a hard question you and many others probably can't answer (not biggie, no one can know everything) and you got bitter.

Nothing more, nothing less.

[Avante]

Nope. Asked a hard question you and many others probably can't answer (not biggie, no one can know everything) and you got bitter.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Wow, are you really this fucked up?

[NFO]

Wow, are you really this fucked up?

Don't feel bad. It is a hard question. Only the best of the best, and may be not even those folks could name that indiviudal off the top of their head and would have to do some detailed reserarch to even get it.

Once again thanks for playing and better luck next time.

[benefactor]

:lol NFO murking Avante right in the middle of his own yard

[pgardn]

:lol NFO murking Avante right in the middle of his own yard

To be fair, it's a small weed ridden yard.

[Spur-Addict]

:lol Somebody just got the business

[Avante]

:lol NFO murking Avante right in the middle of his own yard

Here's what happened, there is an article out there about Barney Ewell, the guy this freak is actually talking about. In that article it talk's about him and the 40/44 Olympics that never happened due to the war. The freak misunderstood what was going on there and now trying to safe face is playing this..."nice try:"...bullshit. Notice how he has no answer to his question?

[Blake]

Notice how he has no answer to his question?

We notice you don't

[NFO]

Here's what happened, there is an article out there about Barney Ewell, the guy this freak is actually talking about. In that article it talk's about him and the 40/44 Olympics that never happened due to the war. The freak misunderstood what was going on there and now trying to safe face is playing this..."nice try:"...bullshit. Notice how he has no answer to his question?

The answer is not Barney Ewell. The sprinter I am referring to was in WWII, came back and turned down an invitation for time trials for the 48 Olympics in London.

Don't feel bad. It is a hard question. Only the best of the best, and may be not even those folks could name that indiviudal off the top of their head and would have to do some detailed reserarch to even get it.

Once again thanks for playing and better luck next time.

[Avante]

The answer is not Barney Ewell. The sprinter I am referring to was in WWII, came back and turned down an invitation for time trials for the 48 Olympics in London.

Don't feel bad. It is a hard question. Only the best of the best, and may be not even those folks could name that indiviudal off the top of their head and would have to do some detailed reserarch to even get it.

Once again thanks for playing and better luck next time.

Pretty sad that you are now down to simply lying, wow. A "world class" sprinter who had better things to do than run in the Olympics, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You honestly think anyone believes that?

"The California Comet" Hal Davis passed up on the trials but that was due to his conditioning.

[NFO]

Pretty sad that you are now down to simply lying, wow. A "world class" sprinter who had better things to do than run in the Olympics, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You honestly think anyone believes that?

"The California Comet" Hal Davis passed up on the trials but that was due to his conditioning.

Not lying. Pretty sad you have to say that I am lying because you (a) don't know the answer and (b) were unable to find the answer.

Don't feel bad. It is a hard question. Only the best of the best, and maybe not even those folks could name that individual off the top of their head and would have to do some detailed research to even get it.

Once again thanks for playing and better luck next time.

[Avante]

Not lying. Pretty sad you have to say that I am lying because you (a) don't know the answer and (b) were unable to find the answer.

Don't feel bad. It is a hard question. Only the best of the best, and maybe not even those folks could name that individual off the top of their head and would have to do some detailed research to even get it.

Once again thanks for playing and better luck next time.

Dude, I can talk Lon Myers and Bernie Wefers, ok? I go back to the 1800's with this stuff. There is nothing about the 40's and sprinting I'm not aware of. You are lying and we both know it.

You read something wrong and it's real obvious, that's why you have no answer to your question.

Since you are showing us all just how lowrent you really are, I'm done with you. You're an obvious idiot in hiding.

See ya stupid~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[benefactor]

:lol stumped Avante rage

[NFO]

Dude, I can talk Lon Myers and Bernie Wefers, ok?

Well la de fucking da.



I go back to the 1800's with this stuff.

So does Google. What is your point.



There is nothing about the 40's and sprinting I'm not aware of.

sans the question I asked.

Don't feel bad. It is a hard question. Only the best of the best, and maybe not even those folks could name that individual off the top of their head and would have to do some detailed research to even get it.

Once again thanks for playing and better luck next time.



You are lying and we both know it.

Swear to God I am not lying. The sprinter went to an Ohio college. There is a hint.



You read something wrong and it's real obvious, that's why you have no answer to your question.

Nope. I have the answer, but I will only confirm it if you say the correct name.



I'm done with you.

See ya ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

We could ALL only be so lucky.

[Avante]

Derrick Henry is even better than I thought.

I can't believe they brought up his 11.1 HS 100m, that is SLOW~~~ I'm guessing he's a 4.55 40 cat, not a blazer but fast enought for a guy that size.

He reminds me a bit of Calvin Hill with that stride.

What he does is beat a D down. At first he's knocking out 3-4, then it's 4-6, then that ..BOOM!...60! Then that ..Boom..50.

Another big fast black running back, actualy bigger than Walker/Bo and Dupree, just not as fast.

[Avante]

Ok, the big back.

Pitt...Ironhead Heyward
Ohio State...Pete Johnson
Oklahoma...Marcus Dupree
Auburn...Bo Jackson
Oregon St...Steven Jackson
Texas...Earl Campbell, Ricky Williams
Notre Dame...Jerrome Bettis
North Carolina...Natrone Means
Georgia...Herschel Walker, Todd Gurley
Syracuse...Jim Brown, Larry Csonka, Jim Nance
Oregon...Lagarette Blount
USC...Sam "Bam" Cunningham
Kansas...John Riggins
Alabama...Eddie Lacy, Derrick Henry
LSU....Leonard Fournette
Azusa Pacific...Christian "Nigerian Nigthmare" Okoye
Villanova...Billy Joe
Purdue...Mike Alstott

So who needs to be there?

[Silver&Black]

Dude is legit...Running for over 200+ yards against both LSU and Miss. St.

Call me impressed. Sitting there watching the game yesterday, and Gary Danielson said, "Miss. St. has done a good job containing Derrick Henry so far." I immediately said, "Don't fucking say that...now he's going to bust one."

5 seconds later....74 yard touchdown run. :pctoss

[Avante]

Dude is legit...Running for over 200+ yards against both LSU and Miss. St.

Call me impressed. Sitting there watching the game yesterday, and Gary Danielson said, "Miss. St. has done a good job containing Derrick Henry so far." I immediately said, "Don't fucking say that...now he's going to bust one."

5 seconds later....74 yard touchdown run. :pctoss

If ever a guy looked sluggish....seven yards. It's Derrick Henry. He just doesn't look like he's moving that fast...fifty yards, but neither did Jim Brown.

[pgardn]

Derrick Henry is even better than I thought.

I can't believe they brought up his 11.1 HS 100m, that is SLOW~~~ I'm guessing he's a 4.55 40 cat, not a blazer but fast enought for a guy that size.

He reminds me a bit of Calvin Hill with that stride.

What he does is beat a D down. At first he's knocking out 3-4, then it's 4-6, then that ..BOOM!...60! Then that ..Boom..50.

Another big fast black running back, actualy bigger than Walker/Bo and Dupree, just not as fast.

He is running against defenses getting blown back. I will question the Alabama back given the Olines they have. There is no question in my mind LF is a better RB. Henry is another straight line guy who eventually gets exposed in todays NFL. Calvin Hill was much more shifty, horrible comparison.


Back to the question, this guy was from Ohio and turned down the Olympics. Looks like you can't google it. Hit the libraries in Ohio because that's what you do #research.

[Avante]

He is running against defenses getting blown back. I will question the Alabama back given the Olines they have. There is no question in my mind LF is a better RB. Henry is another straight line guy who eventually gets exposed in todays NFL. Calvin Hill was much more shifty, horrible comparison.


Back to the question, this guy was from Ohio and turned down the Olympics. Looks like you can't google it. Hit the libraries in Ohio because that's what you do #research.

Wrong as usual, hell no Calvin Hill wasn't more shifty, dude...ha~~~~~ Hill was 6-4, ok guy? Calvin Hill had this really bad habit, what was it?

Derrick Henry is the classic ..I..back. Yes and yes he is a situation runner not a guy working the edges, He's like a fullback, limited.

Don't care about stupid track questions.

[Blake]

He is running against defenses getting blown back. I will question the Alabama back given the Olines they have. There is no question in my mind LF is a better RB. Henry is another straight line guy who eventually gets exposed in todays NFL.

I concur. It's really hard to evaluate Alabama running backs.

If I'm a GM I'd rather let some other team burn a first round pick on Henry and instead take a late round flyer on a surprise back to back 1000 yard runner from a pass happy system like say....Deandre Washington

[pgardn]

Wrong as usual, hell no Calvin Hill wasn't more shifty, dude...ha~~~~~ Hill was 6-4, ok guy? Calvin Hill had this really bad habit, what was it?

Derrick Henry is the classic ..I..back. Yes and yes he is a situation runner not a guy working the edges, He's like a fullback, limited.

Don't care about stupid track questions.

You are a total idiot if you think Hill was a straight line runner. I don't care if he was 8 feet tall.
Clueless, stick to track and your straight lines.

So, who was this guy opting out of the Olympics?

[Avante]

You are a total idiot if you think Hill was a straight line runner. I don't care if he was 8 feet tall.
Clueless, stick to track and your straight lines.

So, who was this guy opting out of the Olympics?

Dude, ya wanna talk about Calvin Hills track career at Yale? And where did I say anything about him being a straight line runner? I only saw the guy play a dozen times or more, how about you? And if ya did see him play what bad habit did he have? It was constantly talked about, well?

Hill wasn't overly elusive or agile, this is a known fact, how many 6-4 backs are?

How dumb are you?

Nobody opted out of any Olympics, something is wrong with this question.

[pgardn]

Dude, ya wanna talk about Calvin Hills track career at Yale? And where did I say anything about him being a straight line runner? I only saw the guy play a dozen times or more, how about you? And if ya did see him play what bad habit did he have? It was constantly talked about, well?

Hill wasn't overly elusive or agile, this is a known fact, how many 6-4 backs are?

How dumb are you?

Nobody opted out of any Olympics, something is wrong with this question.

If you had you would have noted that his forte was the leap into the endzone from goaliine situations and for first downs. You would have known this if you were a fan. He was agile, he was a very good athlete. This is why he was a RB.
How stupid are you, huh?
Ok?
Ok little man?

I can name at least 10 salads made with Balsamic Vinegar that would curl your nose hairs.
Ok?

[Avante]

If you had you would have noted that his forte was the leap into the endzone from goaliine situations and for first downs. You would have known this if you were a fan. He was agile, he was a very good athlete. This is why he was a RB.
How stupid are you, huh?
Ok?
Ok little man?

I can name at least 10 salads made with Balsamic Vinegar that would curl your nose hairs.
Ok?

Dude, I was watching Don Perkins the first great Cowboy RB long before Calvin Hill, ok little man? Saw Hill play many many times, no he wasn't agile/elusive, compared to those who are, ok?

ONE MORE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remember how Chuck Foreman had this habit of spinning to elude tacklers, well Hill did something that announcers always commented on, what was it?

I do get a kick out of little know nothings like you, ha~~~~~~~ Remember Cowboy RB Amos Marsh, of course not.

[pgardn]

Dude, I was watching Don Perkins the first great Cowboy RB long before Calvin Hill, ok little man? Saw Hill play many many times, no he wasn't agile/elusive, compared to those who are, ok?

ONE MORE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remember how Chuck Foreman had this habit of spinning to elude tacklers, well Hill did something that announcers always commented on, what was it?

I do get a kick out of little know nothings like you, ha~~~~~~~ Remember Cowboy RB Amos Marsh, of course not.

You never even noted Hill's ability to leap over defenders.
Ok?
I can't take you serious little guy, alright?

Dont make me list 14 LEDs that give off 95% of their energy as light, ok?
So, the big ornamental squash family...Follow this little man, you got me?
I know you were once a salamander with exterior gills but follow me, ok?

Remember when you had a desire to Lance Rentzel those little Phillipino girls Mr. North Dallas Forty, huh?

[Avante]

You never even noted Hill's ability to leap over defenders.
Ok?
I can't take you serious little guy, alright?

Dont make me list 14 LEDs that give off 95% of their energy as light, ok?
So, the big ornamental squash family...Follow this little man, you got me?
I know you were once a salamander with exterior gills but follow me, ok?

Remember when you had a desire to Lance Rentzel those little Phillipino girls Mr. North Dallas Forty, huh?

Dude, go bug others ok? You're just to fucking dumb to mess with. Now scram.

Whoa, before ya go...

Hill was always trying to jump over everyone, ok? That was his bad habit I was talking about. All the announcers would..."he really needs to stop that".

Now, go away.

[NFO]

Back to the question, this guy was from Ohio and turned down the Olympics. Looks like you can't google it. Hit the libraries in Ohio because that's what you do #research.

Been a long time since I asked the self-proclaimed track expert that question, and still no correct answer from him.



Nobody opted out of any Olympics, something is wrong with this question.

Nothing wrong with the original question. Only thing wrong were your answers. Glad to see you can't get facts right a year after the fact.

[pgardn]

Dude, go bug others ok? You're just to fucking dumb to mess with. Now scram.

Whoa, before ya go...

Hill was always trying to jump over everyone, ok? That was his bad habit I was talking about. All the announcers would..."he really needs to stop that".

Now, go away.

Oh all the announcers said this...

Calvin Hill can't be good athlete. He was not an elite sprinter so it's impossible.

Well hell.

He must have been horrible.

Stop messing with me little fella, OK?

[Avante]

Oh all the announcers said this...

Calvin Hill can't be good athlete. He was not an elite sprinter so it's impossible.

Well hell.

He must have been horrible.

Stop messing with me little fella, OK?

Calvin Hll was a great athlete, Google his athletic career at Yale. But...he wasn't a shifty elusive type RB, what 6-4 RB is? He had good speed, and power with some wiggle for a big guy. Dude, why would I care how he ran, I;m simply telling you how it was, ok?

[Avante]

If Saban cares anything at all about Henry's Heisman xhances he lets him get at least 150 yards vs RinkyDinky State before sitting him down.

[Avante]

:lmao this thread

It is funny isn't it? Why people struggle with....been into this stuff for a long time....I can't figure out. Why they always try to fight it is comical.

Hell, I remember back when there were no black players in the SEC. And the Dallas Cowboys were in the western conference.

[pgardn]

It is funny isn't it? Why people struggle with....been into this stuff for a long time....I can't figure out. Why they always try to fight it is comical.

Hell, I remember back when there were no black players in the SEC. And the Dallas Cowboys were in the western conference.

Were you a fish then, or had you already made an amphibious landing?
Or did you evolve directly into an old man with lists?

Im struggling with you struggling concerning Calvin Hill and a sprinter who bypassed the Olympics.
Ok?~~~~~~~~ See little guy, big dummy.

[Avante]

Were you a fish then, or had you already made an amphibious landing?
Or did you evolve directly into an old man with lists?

Im struggling with you struggling concerning Calvin Hill and a sprinter who bypassed the Olympics.
Ok?~~~~~~~~ See little guy, big dummy.

Am I all you do here little shit?

And there was never any sprinter who bypassed the Olympics, so why the lie?

[Avante]

Starting RB's who return kickoffs, that's a rarity. I do see Christian McCaffery as more a third down, return kicks guy at the NFL level. He does have good speed for a white guy. I'd guess he could probably cook a....10.60...100m. He was a 10.75 guy in HS. To put that in perspective, Jamaal Charles was a 10.18 guy at Texas.

Would ya believe Jim Brown returned KO's his rookie season with Cleveland?

A few others...

Timmy Brown Eagles
Anthony Davis USC
Ollie Matson Cards
Gale Sayers Kansas/Bears
Paul Lowe Chargers
Abner Haynes North Texas/Chiefs
Herschel Walker Cowboys/Generals

Not sure I believe this one.

Story goes, that while in HS Marcus Dupree was running back so many KO'd for TD's the offense went to the coach to see if he could take Dupree off that duty so they could play, ha~~~~~~~

Getting back to McCaffery his grandfather was Dave Sime one of the fastest white Americans ever, a debate that he was the fastest is very real. Here he is in 1960 barely being edged out for the Olympic 100m gold medal by the great Armin Hary.

Lane 1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9OSylLg3XA

[Avante]

Derrick Henry at least 144 yards vs Auburn.

Let'd see....

Alabama running backs.

Johnny Musso
Wilbur Jackson
Tony Nathan
Bobby Humphrey
Shaun Alexander
Mark Ingram
Trent Richardson
Eddie Lacy
T.J.Yelton
Derrick Henry

Auburn

Tucker Fredrickson
Joe Cribbs
Lionel "Little Train" James
William Andrews
James Brooks
Bo Jackson
Rudi Johnson
Stephen Davis
Ronnie Brown
Cadillac Wiliams
Tre Mason

How about USC vs UCLA?

UCLA

Mel Farr
Theotis Brown
Gaston Green
Desuan Foster
Skip Hicks
Freeman McNeil
Wendell Tyler
Maurice Jones Drew

USC

"Jaguar" Jon Arnett
Frank Gifford
Mike Garrett
O.J.Simpson
Charles White
Lynn Cain
Marcus Allen
Clarence Davis
Anthony Davis
Sam "Bam" Cunningham
Ricky Bell
Reggie Bush
LenDale White

Five Heisman winners there.

But it's those guys of RinkyDinky State that intriques me.

All had a 1000 yard season in the NFL/AFL

Joe Delaney NWLa
Wilie Ellison Texas Southern
Dick Bass UOP
Chris Warren Furman
Stump Mitchell The Citadel
Wilbert Montgomery ACU
Fred Jackson Coe
Clem Daneils Prairie View
Mercury Morris West Texas State
Abner Haynes North Texas State
Joe "The Jet" Perry Compton JC
Walter Payton Jackson State
Leroy Kelly Morgan State
J.D.Smith NCA&T

[Avante]

This is why ya do your homework, something I didn't do. If I had of I'd known that Kenyon Drake was out meaning Henry is now.... da man. If I'd known that I'd gone with 180 yards.

Henry is the all time leading rusher for a season in Bama history now.

That Avante curse, hahaha~~~~~~~

Henry does remind me of Chris Warren the old Seahawk, obviously nobody remembers him at Furman.

As of right now it does look like Henry would have to be the leading Heisman candidate.

Leonard Fournette?

[Avante]

Later tonight Christian "White Lightning" McCaffery vs ND. I do expect to see some....wow~.....moment. The kid does have a great burst and for a RB he can go the distance at anytime.

While not a thumper, ya get him on the edge, and he can do some serious damage.

[Avante]

If Henry has a big game vs Florida he could win the Heisman.

That Avante Curse working over time, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then when Nick Chubb comes back next season, hmmmmm?

[Blake]

Later tonight Christian "White Lightning" McCaffery vs ND. I do expect to see some....wow~.....moment. The kid does have a great burst and for a RB he can go the distance at anytime.

While not a thumper, ya get him on the edge, and he can do some serious damage.

McCaffrey 3.5 ypc no TDs vs ND.

Avante curse working overtime

[Blake]

And you're fat

[Avante]

McCaffrey 3.5 ypc no TDs vs ND.

Avante curse working overtime

translation

Ya nailed Nick Chubb and Derrick Henry totally. How did ya know? You are .."Da Man"...Avante. I try all I can to discredit you but as we can see I'm an idiot. Remember my..."Chubb only averages"....was that stupid or what? And as ya can see I didn't watch the Stanford game, yep, don't know anything about that...WOW!....we saw out of McCaffery, yep, I'm an idiot.

Avante, is there some method/trick ya use? You really are amazing.

[Blake]

Do you really think your translation shtick is funny?

You're an idiot.

[Avante]

Do you really think your translation shtick is funny?

You're an idiot.

translation

I can't believe I atually said..."so what was Chubbs average?"...I should have known you knew something about him I didn't. Just like ya did about Derrick Henry, you follow HS ball don't you? I do all I can to discredit you but like with your ATS plays where you continue to win $$$$ I come off looking like a retarded idiot. You are without question "Da Man" Avante, this is why I follow you around.

I bet ya know who will be the next stud SEC RB, who's still in HS don't you?

[Blake]

I bet ya know who will be the next stud SEC RB, who's still in HS don't you?

Yes I do.

And you're fat and stupid.

[Avante]

Yes I do.

And you're fat and stupid.

translation

How you knew Henry would be the best back Bama ever had when he was just a freshman says it all about you Avante, obviously dumb fucks like me MUST hasslr ya because ya make us look stupid. You are on a whole other level my man and it bugs the hell out of me.

[Blake]

translation

How you knew Henry would be the best back Bama ever had when he was just a freshman says it all about you Avante, obviously dumb fucks like me MUST hasslr ya because ya make us look stupid. You are on a whole other level my man and it bugs the hell out of me.


But....it's the soph Derrick Henry who might be better than all of them.

Yeah you really went out on a limb after Henry went off for 160 total yards in the bowl game against Oklahoma.

You're such a stupid fat old fuck.

[Avante]

Yeah you really went out on a limb after Henry went off for 160 total yards in the bowl game against Oklahoma.

You're such a stupid fat old fuck.

translation

Did I really use one game as a barometer for a career, yep, STOO-PEED. Obviously talking about my dumb..."but Chubb averaged"...and here I am again being stupid with trying to peddle "one" game for Henry. Yep, I'm dumb as a rock, but everyone kniows that,

[Blake]

Yep, I'm dumb as a rock, but everyone kniows that,

we agree for once

[Avante]

we agree for once

translation

You posted this thread back in 2014 and ya totally nailed it. As ya know I can't stand that. Especially since you also nailed Nick Chubb.

I can't stand the fact you know far more about this stuff than anyone here. So I must do all I can to combat the facts. It's what I'm about.

[Avante]

Sorry guys but as we all know this Blake freak is retarded so I mess with him. I know I shouldn't, poor little guy. I do pity the punk.

Ok moving on.

I finally figured out who Christian McCaffrey reminds me of, that would be Lance Alworth the great Chargers receiver. Alworth was a running back at Arkansas. They look like twins as far as their running style goes.

[Blake]

Sorry guys

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Lol talking to nobody

Stupid fat fuck

[Avante]

I know, I know, this Blake is a sad situation. I 'll stop messing with him, which means he'll follow me all over the place as you all can see. I'm guessing bipolar or maybe just plain old stupidity.

Anyone see me responding to this retard, permanate bannishment. It is time to bury this freak, it simply isn't right a grown up slapping this little bitch around.

Here he comes again, I guarantee it.

[Blake]

I know, I know, this Blake is a sad situation.

Anyone see me responding to this retard, permanate bannishment.

that'd be great. Really it would.

But this is the third or fourth time you've made that self-promise. You're a stupid fat old welcher.

[Avante]

I do see Fournette being a better NFL back than Henry. He's quicker more elusive, Henry won't have those huge holes and won't be running over too many at the NFL level.

[Avante]

Iowa is loaded with track athletes which is unusual for Big10 teams, at least a half dozen track/footballers. The Big10 rarely gets those Texas/Cali/Florida speedsters. They prefer warm weather, like the SEC, Big12 and Pac12.

[Avante]

Henry is now the all time SEC single season rushing leader. Breaking Herschel Walkers record.

McCaffrey the all time all purpose yards for a season. Breaking Barry Sanders record.

Both just sophmores.

[pgardn]

Iowa is loaded with track athletes which is unusual for Big10 teams, at least a half dozen track/footballers. The Big10 rarely gets those Texas/Cali/Florida speedsters. They prefer warm weather, like the SEC, Big12 and Pac12.

The track athletes do not play on the defensive and offensive lines. Both of these elements were the fundamental reason Iowa was good along with a very easy schedule.

[pgardn]

Henry is very difficult to assess as Alabama's offensive line is so good. Looks like the protypical Alabama big back that gets hyped for the NFL and becomes less than ordinary.

[Avante]

The track athletes do not play on the defensive and offensive lines. Both of these elements were the fundamental reason Iowa was good along with a very easy schedule.

You sure no shot putters, discus throwers play on those lines, ya might wanna check that out.

[Avante]

Henry is very difficult to assess as Alabama's offensive line is so good. Looks like the protypical Alabama big back that gets hyped for the NFL and becomes less than ordinary.

So how has he done at the NCAA level which is why I had this thread? The guy was an super freak at the HS level, and it's real obvious he'd be a stud on any team, ok?

Dude, you always try so damn hard to play critic, why? You ever...."yep, he's what ya said he'd be"....well?

[pgardn]

You sure no shot putters, discus throwers play on those lines, ya might wanna check that out.

Those are not the track athletes you slobber over.

[Avante]

Those are not the track athletes you slobber over.

So ya fucked up and now feel stupid, haha~~~~~~ Dude, cool the critic bullshit, ya suck at it, ok?

Now do your homework about track athletes on those Iowa lines, ok dummy?

[pgardn]

So how has he done at the NCAA level which is why I had this thread? The guy was an super freak at the HS level, and it's real obvious he'd be a stud on any team, ok?

Dude, you always try so damn hard to play critic, why? You ever...."yep, he's what ya said he'd be"....well?

Avante I am merely pointing out trends.
Btw, you are the bestest list maker/child molester ever.
Ok?

Well little fella...?

[pgardn]

So ya fucked up and now feel stupid, haha~~~~~~ Dude, cool the critic bullshit, ya suck at it, ok?

Now do your homework about track athletes on those Iowa lines, ok dummy?

Make a list for me of the all Big 12 shot put team.

You have 5 minutes. No googlin.

[Avante]

Avante I am merely pointing out trends.
Btw, you are the bestest list maker/child molester ever.
Ok?

Well little fella...?

You were just made to look more stupid than usual so it's the old.."I'm too stupid to know about sailors in bars"....hahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Derrick Henry is the best back in the NCAA, this thread was about that. Yes there are track athletes on those Iowa lines. Now run along ya fucking idiot.

[Avante]

Make a list for me of the all Big 12 shot put team.

You have 5 minutes. No googlin.

Too late little man, ya came on here trying to play critic again and said something totally stupid, so own it ok dummy?

[pgardn]

Too late little man, ya came on here trying to play critic again and said something totally stupid, so own it ok dummy?

You could do it for sprinters but not the shot?
okay, your abilities as a list maker just took a hit.
But your abilities to go along with the boyz and rape continues to rise with pitiful rationale leading to denial.

[pgardn]

How can I possibly consider any athlete as noteworthy if you can't list them as track athletes?So far zero names or accomplishments for the shot.

[Avante]

You could do it for sprinters but not the shot?
okay, your abilities as a list maker just took a hit.
But your abilities to go along with the boyz and rape continues to rise with pitiful rationale leading to denial.

Ya always try sooooooooooooo damn hard at this little guy and it's comical. Will you ever...."yep, ya nailed it Avante".....well? All you ever do is try to be a critic, why is that? Really, why do you try so hard at that?

Didn't I start a thread a year ago about Derrick Henry, why did I do that, well? Are there shot putters and dixcus throwers on that Iowa football team, yep?

Time to just ignore the sailors in bars thing you're obviously too stupid to get that.

When does it hit ya little man, I've been into this stuff since the late 50's, ever?

[pgardn]

Ya always try sooooooooooooo damn hard at this little guy and it's comical. Will you ever...."yep, ya nailed it Avante".....well? All you ever do is try to be a critic, why is that? Really, why do you try so hard at that?

Didn't I start a thread a year ago about Derrick Henry, why did I do that, well? Are there shot putters and dixcus throwers on that Iowa football team, yep?

Time to just ignore the sailors in bars thing you're obviously too stupid to get that.

When does it hit ya little man, I've been into this stuff since the late 50's, ever?

I actually enjoy the lists when appropriately placed.

Its your modesty, misunderstanding of betting, and ability to forget child rape that "hit" me little fella... Ok?

[Avante]

I actually enjoy the lists when appropriately placed.

Its your modesty, misunderstanding of betting, and ability to forget child rape that "hit" me little fella... Ok?

Little man plus over $3000 the last two seasons in the NFL forum, so...misunderstanding betting...? Modesty on a messageboard where everyone is dying to....YOU WERE WRONG YIPPPEEE!!!!!.....ha~~~

Dude, just a young sailor with no clue at all about that world over there so stop acting stupid about it, ok? Ya walk in a bar and here they come, are you trying to tell me you would have been the one to...'get away from me ladies"....? Come on little man, ha~~~

You're simply another one of those that can't stand the fact I'm a long time fan who knows his stuff, why ya fight it like ya do? Why do ya fight it like ya do, why not cool that silly shit and actually learn something? Hell little guy I can talk about Texas footballers you've never even heard of, trust me.

It is funny watching dumb kids like this guy, they totally freak out around guys like me, no idea how to act, ha~~~~~ Hell, I saw O.J. Simpson run track while still at SFCC, ha~~~~~~~

I follow HS ball shorty, that's how I knew about Derrick Henry and Nick Chubb. And how I know about Centenials J.J.Taylor, remember that name.

[pgardn]

Little man plus over $3000 the last two seasons in the NFL forum, so...misunderstanding betting...? Modesty on a messageboard where everyone is dying to....YOU WERE WRONG YIPPPEEE!!!!!.....ha~~~

Dude, just a young sailor with no clue at all about that world over there so stop acting stupid about it, ok? Ya walk in a bar and here they come, are you trying to tell me you would have been the one to...'get away from me ladies"....? Come on little man, ha~~~

You're simply another one of those that can't stand the fact I'm a long time fan who knows his stuff, why ya fight it like ya do? Why do ya fight it like ya do, why not cool that silly shit and actually learn something? Hell little guy I can talk about Texas footballers you've never even heard of, trust me.

It is funny watching dumb kids like this guy, they totally freak out around guys like me, no idea how to act, ha~~~~~ Hell, I saw O.J. Simpson run track while still at SFCC, ha~~~~~~~

I follow HS ball shorty, that's how I knew about Derrick Henry and Nick Chubb. And how I know about Centenials J.J.Taylor, remember that name.

You dont even understand how Las Vegas operates and you dare say you find "spots" in their lines via historical info that has no current utility.

Sure bud.

And I saw OJ run away in a Rover; birds eye view little fella...
Have the kids found a nice elderly care facility yet?

[Blake]

Little man plus over $3000 the last two seasons in the NFL forum, so...misunderstanding betting...?



***Updated with new information on 12/17/2013 to reflect actual amount wagered on Bears/Packers, courtesy of Spurraiders21***
***Updated with new information again on 12/22/2013 to reflect Avante's week 16 bet***


Since he refuses to do so, lets track all the money plays he's done on Spurstalk this year. Lets ignore all the other claims/story changes/goal post moves no one can prove/disprove, lets just stick to all of the games Avante has picked on this site saying he bet on them. Here's how it's gone:

Weeks 1-7:
He was 22-25 (:lmao) through 7 weeks picking games without mentioning how much money he bet, and after claiming he was 14-7 overall in the "$$$$" games he realized he needed to start actually showing how much he was betting to prove he's an NFL historian.

Week 8:

At that point he's 2-1 and up $90 overall (claiming he's 16-8). Then he decides to bet on the Seattle MNF and loses (we know he bet on this one because he voluntarily drops his record to 16-9 after this game):

Results for week 8: 2-2 and down $20 ($440 wager, $420 payout)
Results through week 8: 2-2, down $20 overall


Week 9 is when he starts trying to make it confusing to figure out what he bet. Here are the games he claims he played (though he posted an alternative set of games where he did even worse). He didn't specify a dollar amount so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he only bet $110 to win $100 on all 5 games:

Here's the post where he confirms he bet on these and adds a 5th game he bet on:

Then he ups his wager for the MNF GB -11 game:

Results for week 9: 1-4 and down $1,330 ($1540 wager, $210 payout)
Results through week 9: 3-6, down $1,350 overall


Week 10 is when Avante's behavior becomes truly eratic as he starts upping the ante:

Results for week 10: 2-2 and down $100 ($2200 wager, $2100 payout)
Results through week 10: 5-8, down $1,450 overall


Week 11 he starts randomly posting his picks (or pick in this case) in the club (don't ask me why):

Results for week 11: 0-1 and down $2200 ($2200 wager, $0 payout)
Results through week 11: 5-9, down $3,650 overall


Week 12 he did not pick any games.
Results for week 12: 0-0 and $0
Results through week 12: 5-9, down $3,650 overall


Week 13 he did not pick any games.
Results for week 13: 0-0 and $0
Results through week 13: 5-9, down $3,650 overall


Week 14 he starts posting his picks in the NFL forum again:

Then he adds this at the last minute because of how shitty these games turned out:

Results for week 14: 2-3 and up $410 ($2320 wager, $2730 payout)
Results through week 14: 7-12, down $3,240 overall


Week 15 he did not pick any games.
Results for week 15: 0-0 and $0
Results through week 15: 7-12, down $3,240 overall

Week 16 he lays it all on the line with his lock of the year:

Results for week 16: 0-1 and down $5,500 ($5,500 wager, $0 payout)
Results through week 16: 7-13, down $8,740 overall

Current Avante betting tracker: 7-13, down $8,740 overall

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao




Lol fat ol stupid fuck

[pgardn]

Lol fat ol stupid fuck

Thanks.

So Avante, going 7-13...
Little buddy ~~~~~~~~you actually have to try really hard to get it that wrong.
Zip, zoom, dem blues come in handy.

[Avante]

Thanks.

So Avante, going 7-13...
Little buddy ~~~~~~~~you actually have to try really hard to get it that wrong.
Zip, zoom, dem blues come in handy.

And in 2014 I finally started giving out "my" plays, actually said.."ok ok free money time" since then plus over $3000. How did I go from that bad to plus over $3000. now think ok? Went 3-1 last week and am at 1-1 this week with a game to go.

My son Mason got a kick out of that freak Blake, that's what that was all about.

[Avante]

You dont even understand how Las Vegas operates and you dare say you find "spots" in their lines via historical info that has no current utility.

Sure bud.

And I saw OJ run away in a Rover; birds eye view little fella...
Have the kids found a nice elderly care facility yet?

Why say stupid shit? What's to know about vegas? They set a line trying to split the action 50/50, what else is there to know? They make the $$$ on the vigorish/juice.

Why not just...ya nailed Derrick Henry Avante.....can't do can ya son?

[pgardn]

And in 2014 I finally started giving out "my" plays, actually said.."ok ok free money time" since then plus over $3000. How did I go from that bad to plus over $3000. now think ok? Went 3-1 last week and am at 1-1 this week with a game to go.

My son Mason got a kick out of that freak Blake, that's what that was all about.

You sound like those idiotic commercial pay sites. They never report losers.

You have portrayed yourself as a large person who is too big to fail.
So you are too fat to fail. Sounds like good advertising. And you don't keep good records apparently.

Tell your son Mason that you are to fat to fail... See if he gets a kick out of it.

[pgardn]

Why say stupid shit? What's to know about vegas? They set a line trying to split the action 50/50, what else is there to know? They make the $$$ on the vigorish/juice.

Why not just...ya nailed Derrick Henry Avante.....can't do can ya son?

What did you nail about Derrick Henry?

And you had to be taught the bolded. Go back and read your NFL post where you mixed this up.

[Avante]

What did you nail about Derrick Henry?

And you had to be taught the bolded. Go back and read your NFL post where you mixed this up.

Little man, I've been winning ATS plays for over 30 years, ya ever see me break down a play? Everyone who does this seriously knows how it works, ok?

Woe, what a dumb fuck.

[pgardn]

Little man, I've been winning ATS plays for over 30 years, ya ever see me break down a play? Everyone who does this seriously knows how it works, ok?

Woe, what a dumb fuck.


Yes. I saw you break down the Cowboys over Carolina straight up forgetting that Romo had just come back, was hit too much during the Miami game, and not realizing old guys get really sore 2nd time back after a layoff, ESPECIALLY on a short week.

Zip, Zoom, pow~~~~~~~~~ right over your head.

It was a great spot play, yes?

[Avante]

Yes. I saw you break down the Cowboys over Carolina straight up forgetting that Romo had just come back, was hit too much during the Miami game, and not realizing old guys get really sore 2nd time back after a layoff, ESPECIALLY on a short week.

Zip, Zoom, pow~~~~~~~~~ right over your head.



Check out my Avante thread on the NFL forum, yep, another $$$$ winning week, so plus $1050. Then check out archives and my $2100 winning 2014 season.

Why fight it half pint?

Would you like to take me on the rest of the season?

[Avante]

While I knew Henry would be a stud I didn't expect him to win a Heisman as a soph.

McCaffrey is the modern "Bullet" Bill Dudley, in that he can do it all. Well close anyway, "Bullet" did play defense, kick and punt.

Why don't these teams simply play every team in the conference? Enought of the LSU vs Savannah State silliness.

Could we have another black QB win both the NCAA/NFL?

So just how fast is McCaffrey? He was a 10.7ish guy as a HSer, he's obviously faster now, so I'd give him a10.6 ish 100m. To put that in perspective, Reggie Bush was a 10.4ish.

So what conference shines in the bowl season?

[Avante]

After Henry wins the Heisman Saturday, he will become the sixth SEC RB to do so, joining...

Billy Cannon...LSU
Bo Jackson...Auburn
Herschel Walker..Georgia
George Rogers...South Carolina
Mark Ingram...Alabama

....and he gained more yards this season than any of them in their Heisman winning season. What a stud~~~~~~~

[Blake]

After Henry wins the Heisman Saturday, he will become the sixth SEC RB to do so, joining...

Billy Cannon...LSU
Bo Jackson...Auburn
Herschel Walker..Georgia
George Rogers...South Carolina
Mark Ingram...Alabama

....and he gained more yards this season than any of them in their Heisman winning season. What a stud~~~~~~~

You left off Frank Sinkwich and George Rogers didn't play in the SEC.

Punch yourself in the face, old fuck.

[Avante]

Why do people work so hard at this?

Frank Sinkwich

School: Georgia (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/schools/georgia/)
Position: QB Consensus All-American: 1941 (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/awards/all-america-1940-1949.html) and 1942 (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/awards/all-america-1940-1949.html)
Heisman Voting: 4th in 1941 (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/awards/heisman-1941.html) and 1st in 1942 (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/awards/heisman-1942.html)


Especially when they are clueless? I was talking ...RB...not running QB's.


SEC Conference Heisman Trophy Winners




School


Heisman Trophies


Heisman Winners




Alabama


1


Mark Ingram 2009
(http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/Mark-Ingram.html)



Auburn


3


Pat Sullivan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/PatSullivan.html) 1971 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/PatSullivan.html), Bo Jackson 1985
Cam Newton 2010
(http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/Cam-Newton.html)



Florida


3


Steve Spurrier 1966
(http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/Steve-Spurrier-Heisman.html)Danny Wuerffel 1996
(http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/Danny-Wuerffel.html)Tim Tebow 2007
(http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/TimTebow.html)



Georgia


2


Frank Sinkwich, 1942
Herschel Walker 1982




LSU


1


Billy Cannon 1959




South Carolina


1


*George Rogers 1980




Texas A&M


2

[Avante]

Who here besides me was talking up Derrick Henry? I saw ...it....when he was in HS, and he's what I said he'd be. Why fight it?

[BatManu20]

Personally, I think Christian McCaffrey deserves it but the award rarely goes to who it should. Almost always goes to the best QB or RB on the best team. Henry has this thing won easily already.

[Blake]

Who here besides me was talking up Derrick Henry? I saw ...it....when he was in HS, and he's what I said he'd be. Why fight it?

You waited until after his freshman year to start this thread. Why lie? Oh right, because you're an insecure old fuck begging for validation as a historian.

[Blake]

Why do people work so hard at this?

Frank Sinkwich

School: Georgia (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/schools/georgia/)
Position: QB Consensus All-American: 1941 (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/awards/all-america-1940-1949.html) and 1942 (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/awards/all-america-1940-1949.html)
Heisman Voting: 4th in 1941 (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/awards/heisman-1941.html) and 1st in 1942 (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/awards/heisman-1942.html)


Especially when they are clueless? I was talking ...RB...not running QB's.


:lol Frank Sinkwich was a running back.

You fail so hard at being a football historian. So so hard.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

And you're fat

[Avante]

Personally, I think Christian McCaffrey deserves it but the award rarely goes to who it should. Almost always goes to the best QB or RB on the best team. Henry has this thing won easily already.

Henry's HS highlights are like a cartoon. Imagine a big fast strong grown man playing yard football with junior high kids, that's what it looked it. It was crazy.

McCaffrey is the fastest white back we have seen since Lance Alworth at Arkansas. He's great and if I had a vote he'd get it, what he can do is amazing.

But, Henry does have it wrapped up.

[Avante]

A man vs boys



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf2ARNqHNCA

[Blake]

:lol Frank Sinkwich was a running back.

You fail so hard at being a football historian. So so hard.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

And you're fat

:lmao fat ol fuck trying to sidestep

he's got me on ignore, someone quote me so we can make sure he's 100% aware of his historical fail. Thanks

[Avante]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neF9ZWvYw4A

A QB who also ran is not a ...RB.

Hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!


Heisman Memorial Trophy Winner (1942) (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/awards/heisman.html)


Frank Sinkwich (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/players/frank-sinkwich-1.html)
Stats [+]

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Rushing & Receiving

Data Coverage (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/about/data-coverage.html) (*=bowl stats included)





Rushing

Receiving

Scrimmage



Year

School

Conf

Class

Pos

G

Att

Yds

Avg

TD

Rec

Yds

Avg

TD

Plays

Yds

Avg

TD



1941 (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/years/1941.html)

Georgia (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/schools/georgia/1941.html)

SEC (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/conferences/sec/1941.html)


















*1942 (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/years/1942.html)

Georgia (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/schools/georgia/1942.html)

SEC (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/conferences/sec/1942.html)


QB

12

186

828

4.5

17

2

33

16.5


188

861

4.6

17



Career

Georgia (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/schools/georgia/)





186

828

4.5

17

2

33

16.5


188

861

4.6

17





Passing

Data Coverage (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/about/data-coverage.html) (*=bowl stats included)





Passing



Year

School

Conf

Class

Pos

G

Cmp

Att

Pct

Yds

Y/A

AY/A

TD

Int

Rate



1941 (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/years/1941.html)

Georgia (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/schools/georgia/1941.html)

SEC (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/conferences/sec/1941.html)















*1942 (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/years/1942.html)

Georgia (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/schools/georgia/1942.html)

SEC (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/conferences/sec/1942.html)


QB

12

89

176

50.6

1456

8.3

7.1

10

9

128.6



Career

Georgia (http://www.spurstalk.com/cfb/schools/georgia/)





89

176

50.6

1456

8.3

7.1

10

9

128.6


S






See where it says....POS QB...? And what...RB...has more passing yards than rushing?

Back then QB's ran a lot, that's what the guy was a running QB. What...RB...has as many passs attempts as rushing?

Anytime ya have a player with his passing stats listed he is not a RB.



Slamdunk~~~~~~~


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/21/vick-isnt-the-first-rushing-quarterback-but-he-is-the-best-for-now/


I like this...

All those*** quarterbacks**** came along before Vick, and when Vick says, “I was the guy who started it all,” he’s not giving enough credit to the rushing quarterbacks who came before him.

This is from a list of Bowl Game records

ORANGE BOWL: Total Offense (Rushing and Passing) 382 yards by Frank Sinkwich, QB, 1942; Most TD Passes Thrown: 3 by Frank Sinkwich, 1942; Most Points Running and Passing: 24 by Frank Sinkwich, 1942; Best Punting Average: 46.9 by Bobby Walden, RHB, in 1960; Most TD Passes (Team) 4 by Georgia, 1942; Most Passes Intercepted (Team): 6 by Georgia, 1942.

Frank Sinkwich QB.


Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Quarterback 100-Yard Rushing Games, by Date, through 2006


Date

Quarterback

Team

Points

Opponent

Points

Rushing

W/L



10/8/1933

Harry Newman

NYG

20

WSH

21

108

L



11/18/1934

Ed Danowski

NYG

9

CHI

10

105

L



10/30/1935

Bill Shepherd

DET

14

WSH


129

W



11/22/1936

Dutch Clark

DET

14

ARZ

7

116

W



10/9/1938

Ace Parker

XBKN

17

PIT

7

103

W



10/29/1939

Parker Hall

STL

14

PIT

14

131

T



11/10/1940

Cecil Isbell

GBP

28

ARZ

7

118

W



9/16/1941

Parker Hall

STL

10

ARZ

6

104

W



10/8/1944

Frankie Sinkwich

DET

19

XBKN

14

135

W



11/5/1944

John Grigas

ARZ

6

DET

27

117

L



11/12/1944

John Grigas

ARZ

7

DET

21

123

L



11/19/1944

Frankie Sinkwich

DET

41

CHI

21

170





I have no doubts if I would have listed Sinkwich as a RB, it would have been,....."hey stupid, he was a QB who ran, ok"....hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sinkwich wasn't a RB he was a multi talented guy who ran and passed, I assumed this was common knowledge.


Little people, when will you figure it out? I'm the real deal so stop fighting it, embrace it and learn something.

Chicago Bears QB Bobby Douglas once rushed for over a 1000 yards in a season, does that make him a RB, of course not.

[Blake]

Your YouTube video calls him a "back"


Official Heisman site:

http://heisman.com/roster.aspx?path=football

Eight player on the list. Read his name and position out loud to the class.

[Blake]

Read his position here out loud:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SinkFr21.htm?mobile=false

Do you understand how positions sometimes worked back then?

clearly you don't.

failed fraud historian keeps digging himself lower and lower.

[Avante]

How many RB's line up behind center and take snaps then pass for more yards than they rush for.....anyone?

How many times can I find something with Sinkwich QB?

Anyone thinking this was a RB like the others I listed is a total moron.

This is how it is...

This is a school that has produced Eric Zeier (owner of the SEC record for most single game passing yards and Georgia's top three games), 1942 Heisman winner RB/QB Frank Sinkwich, No. 1 draft pick Matthew Stafford (http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/players/10272/matthew-stafford), and the aforementioned Greene. Murray's going to leave them all in the dust when his days as a Bulldog are done.


To just call Sinkwich a RB, nope! That above is about Georgia QB's, like Frank Sinkwich.

It's pretty obvious Sinkwich was a bit unique, to act like he was just another RB, can't be done. He played QB way to much for that.

[Blake]

To just call Sinkwich a RB, nope!

I'm not just calling him a RB. He was both RB and QB.

You're the historian that says he's not an RB. Heisman says he was.

He led the nation in rushing, won the Heisman because of his running and played tailback in the pros, winning an NFL MVP as a tailback.

You failed. Again.

lol historian.

You're done. You've been done. You're just too stupid to know how stupid everyone sees you as.

[Avante]

Sinkwich was a RB/QB, those I listed were RB's. How stupid do you get?

He is talked about as I showed, with the Georgia QB's. His passing is what seperated him from just RB's, this should be obvious.

Everyone is loving watching me kick you ass like I;m doing now. You are a joke here, you really don't see that?

I listed...RB's...not..RB/QB's, ok ya clown?

In that video what do we see stupid, yep....him at QB running the ball.

Ok time to put this dummy back on ignore, too stupid to waste anymore time on.

[Avante]

If I'm Henry I'm entering the NFL draft after this season. He's as hot right now as he's going to be.

If I'm McCaffrey Im running track (someting he did in HS) this spring, work on that speed.

[Blake]

:lol you're so old and pathetic

[Avante]

How many of you out there are so totally fucked up you'd follow Avante around?

[clambake]

How many of you out there are so totally fucked up you'd follow Avante around?

wouldn't have to if the feds did their job.

[Avante]

wouldn't have to if the feds did their job.

I agree Blake is all fucked up but the feds?

[Avante]

Christian McCaffrey will come in second this season for the Heisman, but barring injury he will win it next season. We have to go back to John Cappelleti to find the last white RB to win a Heisman.

There is already talk about his role on an NFL team, I do see him as more of a slot receiver with some RB. He does need to be out in space, why waste his real talent thumping the line?

[Silver&Black]

:wow That Avante curse

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/13/03/2F536BA800000578-0-image-a-3_1449977878535.jpg

[Avante]

:wow That Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483) curse

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/13/03/2F536BA800000578-0-image-a-3_1449977878535.jpg


Yep, that's some curse, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

My fav was me talking about how Nick Chubb (knew all about his HS exploits) would do just fine stepping in for Gurley, as we know he was great. So there's that idiot Blake after "one" game..."he only averages..".....hahaha!!!!!! Too damn stupid to realize "one" game don't mean shit.

I follow HS/JC ball, I knew all about Henry.

HS kid here in Cali....J.J. Taylor....remember that name.

Now what's happens is this...

Taylor could end up at USC, if as a freshman in his first game he sucks, it will be...."see see you don't know shit"....hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A few here just can't stand the fact I know all this stuff, bugs the hell out of them....HA~~~~



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGOyuyB-_eM

[pgardn]

:wow That Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483) curse

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/13/03/2F536BA800000578-0-image-a-3_1449977878535.jpg


You dare feed the fatman? This is like praising Djohn.

Well I guess the site does need to maintain a certain level of daftness in order to satisfy curiosity.

I will be obligated to harpoon the Great White Cetacean while listing the wives of pro wrestlers. And yes, one can find a spouse's time in the 40 as registered by a water clock.

Yours,
Blind Lemon Pie (3.14 in the 40)

[Avante]

You dare feed the fatman? This is like praising Djohn.

Well I guess the site does need to maintain a certain level of daftness in order to satisfy curiosity.

I will be obligated to harpoon the Great White Cetacean while listing the wives of pro wrestlers. And yes, one can find a spouse's time in the 40 as registered by a water clock.

Yours,
Blind Lemon Pie (3.14 in the 40)

translation

Ya nailed it Avante, you are "Da Man".

And another winning ATS week, wow~~~~~~~~~~

How do you do this?

[Silver&Black]

You dare feed the fatman? This is like praising Djohn.

Well I guess the site does need to maintain a certain level of daftness in order to satisfy curiosity.

I will be obligated to harpoon the Great White Cetacean while listing the wives of pro wrestlers. And yes, one can find a spouse's time in the 40 as registered by a water clock.

Yours,
Blind Lemon Pie (3.14 in the 40)

Nah...I'm not feeding Avante. I just think that it's hilarious that certain posters disappear when he's right.

If Henry broke his leg........you better believe they'd show up. After winning the Heisman.......nary a peep.

[pgardn]

Nah...I'm not feeding Avante. I just think that it's hilarious that certain posters disappear when he's right.

If Henry broke his leg........you better believe they'd show up. After winning the Heisman.......nary a peep.

Its not exactly going out on a limb picking an Alabama RB for a Heisman. Any team that is in the NC race is a safe bet. Alabama is the first place you go. Personally I like the lists. Just not in the middle of an atmospheric pressure thread.

[Silver&Black]

Its not exactly going out on a limb picking an Alabama RB for a Heisman. Any team that is in the NC race is a safe bet. Alabama is the first place you go. Personally I like the lists. Just not in the middle of an atmospheric pressure thread.

Only two players in Alabama history have won the Heisman....and that number was 1 last week.

Try again..................

[pgardn]

Only two players in Alabama history have won the Heisman....and that number was 1 last week.

Try again..................

How good has Alabama been with Sabin?
When were the Heismans won at Alabama?

The first place you go is to a contender. If Stanford was undefeated and in the final 4, McCaffery. But Stanford is not on autopilot. I will also look to Oklahoma for Heisman possibles, but Bama first. Also Ohio State.

Its not rocket science.

[Blake]

Nah...I'm not feeding Avante. I just think that it's hilarious that certain posters disappear when he's right.

If Henry broke his leg........you better believe they'd show up. After winning the Heisman.......nary a peep.

lol where exactly was Avante right?

[Silver&Black]

lol where exactly was Avante right?

True or false...you would have shown up 10 seconds after Derrick Henry broke his leg?

[Avante]

Its not exactly going out on a limb picking an Alabama RB for a Heisman. Any team that is in the NC race is a safe bet. Alabama is the first place you go. Personally I like the lists. Just not in the middle of an atmospheric pressure thread.

How many posters are here? How many started a thread talking about how Derrick Henry might be the best RB Bama ever had? And this thread was started in June of 2014.

This thing you have about trying to hang with a guy who has been knee deep into this stuff since the early 60's.....why? Hell, I saw Bama play when they had no black players and we still had the BIG 8 and the old SWC. Why some of you fight this so damn hard? Why not learn something?

[Avante]

True or false...you would have shown up 10 seconds after Derrick Henry broke his leg?

It is funny watching the little freak, he can't stand the fact I know this stuff, never have figured out why he worries so much about it.

I did shut him up with my ATS picks at plus $1140.

The guy is a strange little shit.

[pgardn]

How many posters are here? How many started a thread talking about how Derrick Henry might be the best RB Bama ever had? And this thread was started in June of 2014.

This thing you have about trying to hang with a guy who has been knee deep into this stuff since the early 60's.....why? Hell, I saw Bama play when they had no black players and we still had the BIG 8 and the old SWC. Why some of you fight this so damn hard? Why not learn something?

Do you ever revisit posts where you have been wrong Mr. Vegas?

Truthfully I like your lists when appropriately placed.
But you and I both know your betting is a sham.

[Avante]

Do you ever revisit posts where you have been wrong Mr. Vegas?

Truthfully I like your lists when appropriately placed.
But you and I both know your betting is a sham.

Go to my Avante thread (NFL forum) and you will find me talking about why I took GB -7. Last season there was Avante's Betting Thread. I won over 2100 there for all to see. So the last two seasons plus over 3200.

Why fight it like you do?

I was reluctant to hand out free $$$$ on the internet, then I changed my mind and decided to show off.

Give me any game and I'll show you how handicapping is done.

[Blake]

True or false...you would have shown up 10 seconds after Derrick Henry broke his leg?

No doubt.

answer the question: where was Avante right?

[Blake]

It is funny watching the little freak, he can't stand the fact I know this stuff, never have figured out why he worries so much about it.

I did shut him up with my ATS picks at plus $1140.

The guy is a strange little shit.

You want everyone to ignore your documented losses of $8k+ because you're insanely desperate for messageboard validation for being a football expert.

You're a sick old man, tbh.

[Avante]

Only an idiot like this Blake freak would think anyone figures out ATS betting over a season.

Before the start of the 2014 season I said this.."ok ok time for my legit $$$ making plays"...since then plus $3240. So I just figured it out in one season, hahahaha!!!!!!!!

When my son Mason lived here we shared this computer for awhile while he was having one made. He got a kick out of how this Blake freak was so worried about me (as we can see now) so he messed around with him. No way was I going to hand out free $$$$. Then I changed my mind, and if you have followed my plays since then you'd be up $3240.

All anyone has to do is go to my Avante thread on a Sunday morining and there you will find $$$$$ making NFL plays. I do not lose over a season, that cannot happen.

Blake was trolled and he's too fucking stupid to see it.

As far as me being a footbal expert, I know more about your team than you do, trust me.

[Blake]

Tldr. All I know is that your picks and wagers were documented in 2013 and you lost $8k.

That's all anyone needs to know about your expertise.

[Avante]

Nobody loses that kind of $$$$ and then turns around and wins over 3000 the next two seasons, that doesn't happen.

Just how stupid is this freak? I'm guessing he's retarded.

My last ATS play.


Ok plus $ 940

Will play 220 to win 200.

GB -7

Packers are one of the best December teams in the league. Dallas on the road again. Now add GB 3-1 ATS last 4 vs Cowboys. Knowing the Vikes lost already some added motivation for the Packers.

Only game where the home team has a number I like. Don't like playing road teams in December.

GB 47-26 as a December fav since 1990, that is the best in the league. Cowboys as a dog 22-21.

Now add the favorite when these two meet is 15-5 ATS last 20.

So we have a GB 83--53 trend, that is very strong.

Also...Matt Cassell vs Aaron Rodgers

And....GB played last Thursday, the Cowboys on MNF. That's a biggie at the NFL level

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

That look like a loser, GB won by how much?

[Avante]

I do have fun with this little freak as ya all can see, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!! The boy is so damn stupid it's comical.

[benefactor]

Good to see Henry win it. Best Heisman winner since Bobby Boucher won it with the SCLSU Mud Dogs back in '98.

[Blake]

Nobody loses that kind of $$$$ and then turns around and wins over 3000 the next two seasons, that doesn't happen.

Just how stupid is this freak? I'm guessing he's retarded.


yeah, you lost that kind of $$$. It's documented.

Seriously, there's something really wrong with you.

[Avante]

As we all can see this dummy doesn't understand it's impossible to suck that badly one season and then knock out win after win after win, the next two. That doesn't happen it takes years to figure this stuff out. It takes a lot of work and experience.

Poor little freak, we do need to pity the boy.

[Avante]

I'm watching Mount Union vs St.Thomas, yep, DIII football. St.Thomas has a cat closing in on a 2000 yard rushing season, a white guy named Jordan Roberts 6-0 222. Speedy guy with a great burst. I'm seeing more and more of this, weird~~~~

First time Roberts touched the ball, 22 yards, he needs about 25 yards for a 2000 yard season.

Danny Woodhead was out of some RinkyDinky school.

Jordan Roberts



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFK4BFKGLX8


The guy just scored his 33rd td of the season, he leads all of the NCAA.

Fred Jackson was out of Coe.
Chris Warren...Furman
Stump Mitchell...The Citadel
Wilbert Montgomery...Abilene Chtistian
Ollie Matson...U of SF
Dick Bass...UOP
Christian "Nigerian Nightmare" Okoye...Azusa Pacific
Joe "The Jet" Perry...Compton JC

[Avante]

Barring an injury, two more games for Henry. How about another 220 yards?

[Avante]

Look for Samaje Perine the 5-10 230 RB for Oklahoma to run wild vs Clemson, the cat averages over 6 yards a carry. He has that perfect speed/size combo.

230 pounds on a 5-10 frame, damn~~~~~~~~ I'm guessing he's a 4.4 guy to go with that.

Funny how on one of those height/weight charts he'd be fat.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10GNnA99W_8

Doubt the 245.

Never forget the first time I saw Billy Sims play. The game was wrapped up when in comes number 20, so he takes a pitch/maybe a pass (forget) and heads up field, the first defender he leaps over, the second he leaves holding his jock, I thought.....damn~~~~~~~~~ Billy Sims, Gale Sayers and Bo Jackson the best backs outside the top 50 rushers in NFL history.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwi3hoYRAPE

Like Peterson he was a Texan playing for Oklahoma.

[Avante]

McCaffrey a slot receiver/RB at the NFL level, in that order. He needs to be out in space, so he takes pitch outs, dump offs as a RB.

Getting back to his grandpa.

World rankings, and he had beaten Morrow many times. Morrow winning the 56 Oly 100m, Sime was injured.


1956

1................................Bobby Morrow (US)2..................................... Dave Sime (US)********3................................. Leamon King (US)4.................................. Thane Baker (US)5........................... Hec Hogan (Australia)6................................ Ira Murchison (US)7............................... Willie Williams (US)8....................... Mike Agostini (Trinidad)9........ Manfred Germar (West Germany)
10...................... Abdul Khaliq (Pakistan)

[Avante]

Will Henry gain a 100 yards vs Clemson?

[Blake]

Look for Samaje Perine the 5-10 230 RB for Oklahoma to run wild vs Clemson, the cat averages over 6 yards a carry. He has that perfect speed/size combo.

230 pounds on a 5-10 frame, damn~~~~~~~~ I'm guessing he's a 4.4 guy to go with that.

Funny how on one of those height/weight charts he'd be fat.


15 carries 59 yards. Avante curse turnt up.

He's a college athlete. You're not. You're just a fat old retard.

[Avante]

Look at this freak, haha!!!!!!! Totally ignores me hitting Chubb, Henry and Perine scored two TD's and and was injured

Just how far gone is this guy?

Is this some sort of mental condition, this need to hassle those who know FAR more than you do?

[Silver&Black]

Add National Champion to the resume now

[Avante]

Add National Champion to the resume now

Yep, he's got a hard act to follow. What more could he have done?

But.....I do see Fournette, Elliott being better NFL backs. Henry simply soesn't have the quicks/agilty needed. Not that some team won't use him as just a power guy.

At the college level his size/power is too much,that won't be the case in the NFL. Really curious about what his 40 will be at the combine.

[Avante]

As we all know all these NFL backs were big studs at the HS level. But, to watch Derrick Henry playing HS football, wow!!!! I'm dead serious when I say.....imagine a grown man playing backyard football vs grade school kids. It really was that dramatic, actually comical.

Noel Devine, Reggie Bush, Sam McGuffie HS highlights ....stunning, but that was more about speed and quicks, Henry was just about being too big and fast.

[The Reckoning]

how does avante have 34k posts? i'm starting to think he wasn't a troll all along...but just a sad man.

[Blake]

how does avante have 34k posts? i'm starting to think he wasn't a troll all along...but just a sad man.

I figured out he was just a sad old man about 20k of his posts ago

[Avante]

I figured out he was just a sad old man about 20k of his posts ago

As this freak follows me everywhere I go, hahahaha!!!!!!!

Dude, 41,000 posts?

[Avante]

how does avante have 34k posts? i'm starting to think he wasn't a troll all along...but just a sad man.

What football fan with over 50 years of experience needs to troll?

[Blake]

As this freak follows me everywhere I go, hahahaha!!!!!!!

Dude, 41,000 posts?

Yeah 41k over the course of ten years. (Holy shit exactly ten years)

You've got 33k shit posts over the course of 3 1/2 years and that's not counting your Razon user name posts.

[Avante]

Yeah 41k over the course of ten years. (Holy shit exactly ten years)

You've got 33k shit posts over the course of 3 1/2 years and that's not counting your Razon user name posts.


You've been following others around bugging them for ...10 YEARS.......what a sad sad little fuck you are.

[Blake]

You've been following others around bugging them for ...10 YEARS.......what a sad sad little fuck you are.

Neh, I don't follow you or anyone else around. But we all know what a sad pathetic old piece of shit you are...begging for someone anyone to tell you that your knowledge of stupid things is awesome.

Now I'll let you get back to your usual: complain about me then make another stupid list of athletes that nobody here cares about

[Avante]

Neh, I don't follow you or anyone else around. But we all know what a sad pathetic old piece of shit you are...begging for someone anyone to tell you that your knowledge of stupid things is awesome.

Now I'll let you get back to your usual: complain about me then make another stupid list of athletes that nobody here cares about

Little man, you do follow me around so stop lying, got it? And it's not about complaining about you as much as it is being tired of you, ok? You are just too damn stupid to make anything interesting. You get in the way, with your stupidity. You're just a nuisance. So you can't talk about the things I can, bummer.

Stupid, you have any idea at all how dumb this was...."Chubb only averaged".....well? Stupid, the guy was just a freshman, did you really think he'd never play another game......hahahaha!!!!!!!! You saw the...SEASON...he had.

Dude, go bother those more down there on your level, ok?

I post a thread talking about just how great Derrick Henry could be, so what's the guy do, yep...HEISMAN, but look at you, ya can't....good call...oh no ya have to try to find something wrong, what a prick.

My ATS picks up over 3000 the last two seasons, but here you are....well back in 2013....hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Blake]

Lol three days later

[Avante]

Lol three days later

Why don't you grow up Blake and stop trying to see who can bother, ok ya dumb fuck?

Dude, stop being a little pest, ok amigo? Sorry that I'm a long time football fan, that seems to bug you, why I don't know.

But, as ya saw with this thread unlike you I can talk about all of it. I knew about Henry when he was in HS.

[Avante]

How many TD's wil the PAC12 have in the NFL Championship games?

Gronk Arizona
Palmer USC
Stewart Oregon
Anderson Cal
Stephan Taylor Stanford
Brock Osweiler ASU

[Avante]

Anyone remember Devon Allen who as a frosh at Oregon won the NCAA and the USA 110hh***, then got injured playing football for Ducks? Well he's back now, and looked great taking second (hit the last hurdle) Saturday at a meet in Arkansas. He exploded out of the blocks.

Keep an eye on this guy in 2016.

*** an NCAA frosh winning our Nationals is a rarity.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKep9zmzPF0

[Avante]

The third fastest (fastest footballer) HSer in the nation Devin Duvernay will take his 10.27 speed to Baylor. How fast is a 10.27?

Deion Sanders 10.26
Bo Jackson 10.33....he toyed with track, he was faster than that.
Herschel Walker 10.23

...at the NCAA level.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzszwtgroH8

[Avante]

Ya wanna see something unique? A rarity?

Check it out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti5xA2FNHGQ

His 10.07 for 100m is the fastest time ever ran by a white American, as is his 6.52 60. If he runs a 9.99 this season he will be only the second white sprinter to do so. Frances Christophe LeMaitre the first.

[Avante]

James Conner a 250 pound running back out of Pitt will be Da Man in 2016 if he can stay healthy. This guy is a stud.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byxgC3Hmlfk


Him and Nick Chubb that is.

[Avante]

Penn State has had....

Franco Harris
Lenny Moore
Curt Warner
Lydell Mitchell
John Cappelletti
Larry Johnson

..and now...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkaCET2aUU0

[Avante]

Speaking of Oregon footballer/trackster Devon Allen, he won our Oly trials and is headed to Rio.

Back in the early 60's the Ducks had another white footballer/hurdler named Jerry Tarr. all he would do is end up ranked number one in the world.

[Sean Cagney]

Penn State has had....

Franco Harris
Lenny Moore
Curt Warner
Lydell Mitchell
John Cappelletti
Larry Johnson

..and now...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkaCET2aUU0Blair Thomas went there too if I am correct, bad in the NFL but what a college RB he was. BTW Curt Warner is slept on, great running back in the 80's to say the least. Penn State Breeds RB's.....

[Avante]

Yep, there was Thomas and Ki-Jana Carter. Linebackers and RB's at Penn State. Then there's Syracuse with....

Jim Brown...first Brown to have a 1000 yard season.
Ernie Davis...first black Heisman winner
Floyd Little...first Bronco to have a 1000 yard season.
Larry Csonka...first Dolphin to have a 1000 yard season.
Jim Nance...first Pat to have a 1000 yard season, a college wrestler.
Joe Morris...first Giant to have a 1000 yard season.

[Avante]

The fact he returns kicks is why no other RB compares to McCaffery in 2016, if he stays healthy...Heisman~

Starting RB's returning kicks a rarity anymore. Yes I know Gurly, Fournette, a few others.

[pgardn]

The fact he returns kicks is why no other RB compares to McCaffery in 2016, if he stays healthy...Heisman~

Starting RB's returning kicks a rarity anymore. Yes I know Gurly, Fournette, a few others.


So it's astounding teams don't want their starting RBs in a car accident...

[Avante]

Starting RB's who also returns kicks, hmmmm?

Timmy Brown Ball State/Eagles
Ollie Matson USF/Cards, Rams
Gale Sayers Kansas/Bears
Brian Westbrook Villanova/Eagles
Terry Metcalf LBST/Cards
Eric Metcallf Texas/Browns
Reggie Bush USC/NFL
Abner Haynes NTST/Chiefs
Mercury Morris WTS/Dolphins

Who am I missing?

[Avante]

As I mentioned somewhere back there, keep an eye out for Nick Chubb, I saw...IT...early on.

[pgardn]

Starting RB's who also returns kicks, hmmmm?

Timmy Brown Ball State/Eagles
Ollie Matson USF/Cards, Rams
Gale Sayers Kansas/Bears
Brian Westbrook Villanova/Eagles
Terry Metcalf LBST/Cards
Eric Metcallf Texas/Browns
Reggie Bush USC/NFL
Abner Haynes NTST/Chiefs
Mercury Morris WTS/Dolphins

Who am I missing?

You are in a different era dumbass.

The pros do NOT want their RBs hurt ya old faggot. And notice the RBs are skat backs. Quite an uninformed discussion from a poster who knows nothing about football.

[Avante]

You are in a different era dumbass.

The pros do NOT want their RBs hurt ya old faggot. And notice the RBs are skat backs. Quite an uninformed discussion from a poster who knows nothing about football.

Since ya just can't leave me alone. Here's your bone.

Who was talking about the pros ya dumb ass? I was talking about McCafffery, ok stupid? See where I mentioned Gurley and Fournette?

Stupid, your football knowledge vs mine, hahahaha~~~~~~~ Hell ya little shit I can talk about players you have never even heard of, and what did I say about Derrick Henry right here in this thread?

Dude, you are going to be following me around aren't ya?

[pgardn]

Since ya just can't leave me alone. Here's your bone.

Who was talking about the pros ya dumb ass? I was talking about McCafffery, ok stupid? See where I mentioned Gurley and Fournette?

Stupid, your football knowledge vs mine, hahahaha~~~~~~~ Hell ya little shit I can talk about players you have never even heard of, and what did I say about Derrick Henry right here in this thread?

Dude, you are going to be following me around aren't ya?

Its NOW the same with college on the whole you frkn idiot.
Times have changed.

I can assure you Stanford would rather not have him back there. With deep college teams there are a bunch of good athletes on the special teams. McCaffery may have instructions to duck and cover (if needed) or not bring it out. It's a very tough decision because as we have seen he has the capability of going almost untouched.

You
will notice when college or even pro teams get in very tough spots (playoffs) where they need to break one, they might put their best returner back who very often is the RB.

You are welcome.
Mr. Ima gonna bet on Dallas against Carolina because Dallas will beat them straight up. ~~~~sheeeesh~~~~ ok?

[Avante]

Its NOW the same with college on the whole you frkn idiot.
Times have changed.

I can assure you Stanford would rather not have him back there. With deep college teams there are a bunch of good athletes on the special teams. McCaffery may have instructions to duck and cover (if needed) or not bring it out. It's a very tough decision because as we have seen he has the capability of going almost untouched.

You
will notice when college or even pro teams get in very tough spots (playoffs) where they need to break one, they might put their best returner back who very often is the RB.

You are welcome.
Mr. Ima gonna bet on Dallas against Carolina because Dallas will beat them straight up. ~~~~sheeeesh~~~~ ok?


Why do you waste anyones time telling them what we all know? Stupid, the Skins would put Darrell Green back there once in awhile.

Come on guy, sheesh~~~~~~~

Would ya believe the Browns used Jim Brown on kickoff returns? A FB returning kickoffs????

Speaking of which, what FB ran back a punt and a kickoff for a TD in the pros, well?

[pgardn]

Why do you waste anyones time telling them what we all know? Stupid, the Skins would put Darrell Green back there once in awhile.

Come on guy, sheesh~~~~~~~

Would ya believe the Browns used Jim Brown on kickoff returns? A FB returning kickoffs????

Speaking of which, what FB ran back a punt and a kickoff for a TD in the pros, well?

FB...

Fullbacks in the NFL are NOW lead blockers ya dumb old coot. Get your head out of your ass.

[Avante]

FB...

Fullbacks in the NFL are NOW lead blockers ya dumb old coot. Get your head out of your ass.

Stupid, you brought up pro football, ok, so answer my question.

What FB ran back a kickoff over 100 yards and also scored on a punt return, well? And what does right now have to do with anything stupid?

Dude, are you really dumb enought to think anyone is talking FB's in todays NFL, ha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Avante]

Oregon and Devon Allen. As know (or should) Allen ran in the Olympics and was the best 110hurdler in the USA. Well back in the early 60's Oregon had another great white 110 hurdler who also played WR for the Ducks named Jerry Tarr. He was also the best 110 hurdler in the USA.

The Broncos brought him in, a bust.

110 hurdlers and football.

Earl McCullouch USC....ran on a WR 4x1 with O.J.
Rod Woodson Purdue
Willie Gault, Jabari Greer Tennessee
James Owens UCLA
Todd Gurley in HS
Gene Washington Mich St
Quardry Ismail Syracuse
Tyrone Wheatley Mich
Reyna Thompson Baylor
Mel Renfro Oregon



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbSiqvNdzWY

[pgardn]

Stupid, you brought up pro football, ok, so answer my question.

What FB ran back a kickoff over 100 yards and also scored on a punt return, well? And what does right now have to do with anything stupid?

Dude, are you really dumb enought to think anyone is talking FB's in todays NFL, ha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Yes I really think you are dumb enough to do this.

I had rather long drawn out discussion with you about Johnny Unitas. You had not a clue that the NFL had become much more of a passing league. It was like talking to a crumbling Egyptian pyramid asking where all the Pharoahs had gone.

[Avante]

Yes I really think you are dumb enough to do this.

I had rather long drawn out discussion with you about Johnny Unitas. You had not a clue that the NFL had become much more of a passing league. It was like talking to a crumbling Egyptian pyramid asking where all the Pharoahs had gone.

As ya totally ignore my question.

Dude, will you ever figure this out? I've been into this stuff since those Johnny U days, where he had Ray Berry, John Mackay and the first great receiving RB Lenny Moore, all of them in the HOF. Remember Colts cornerback Lenny Lyles who was called the fastest player in the NFL until Bullet Bob showed up. Lyles like Johnny U also from Louisville.

Do you really think a dumbass like you can tell me anything at all about this stuff? Stupid, talk to me about that Mel Anthony and "Squirmin' " Sherman Lewis RB duo at Michigan, how about Johnny Rodgers at Nebraska?

Stupid, why do you fight this so damn hard, why not cool your shit and learn something, ok?

Dummy, remember the old SWC when it was lilly white, of course ya don't. Remember the Dallas Texans, New York Titans, LA Chargers, Boston Patriots, of course ya don't.

Why not pick my brain and learn things instead of the constant hassle?

[pgardn]

As ya totally ignore my question.

Dude, will you ever figure this out? I've been into this stuff since those Johnny U days, where he had Ray Berry, John Mackay and the first great receiving RB Lenny Moore, all of them in the HOF. Remember Colts cornerback Lenny Lyles who was called the fastest player in the NFL until Bullet Bob showed up. Lyles like Johnny U also from Louisville.

Do you really think a dumbass like you can tell me anything at all about this stuff? Stupid, talk to me about that Mel Anthony and "Squirmin' " Sherman Lewis RB duo at Michigan, how about Johnny Rodgers at Nebraska?

Stupid, why do you fight this so damn hard, why not cool your shit and learn something, ok?

Dummy, remember the old SWC when it was lilly white, of course ya don't. Remember the Dallas Texans, New York Titans, LA Chargers, Boston Patriots, of course ya don't.

Why not pick my brain and learn things instead of the constant hassle?

If you would just think for one second I might be able to teach you something more profound than a list of names.

Will you please look at the list of receivers and the number of catches per game and think why are those old timers you mention are so far behind today's game. I could actually teach you more than memorizing ... no I probably could not. There is so much for you to learn.

[Avante]

If you would just think for one second I might be able to teach you something more profound than a list of names.

Will you please look at the list of receivers and the number of catches per game and think why are those old timers you mention are so far behind today's game. I could actually teach you more than memorizing ... no I probably could not. There is so much for you to learn.

What could a guy like you possibly teach anyone about football who has seen far more of the game than you have, well?

And what do I need to know that I don't, well?

Been into this a long time and I need to know...????

Why ya fight this like ya do is a mystery to me, I'd want to learn things. Remember Jerry Levias the first negro to play in the old SWC, of course not. Remember Choo Choo Winters at Nebraska, of course not. Wanna talk Hiawatha Francisco at ND, oh yeah, ya can't.

[pgardn]

What could a guy like you possibly teach anyone about football who has seen far more of the game than you have, well?

And what do I need to know that I don't, well?

Been into this a long time and I need to know...????

Why ya fight this like ya do is a mystery to me, I'd want to learn things. Remember Jerry Levias the first negro to play in the old SWC, of course not. Remember Choo Choo Winters at Nebraska, of course not. Wanna talk Hiawatha Francisco at ND, oh yeah, ya can't.

Names facts, names facts, names facts...

No analysis, no critical thinking. The Navy, rape young girls, become a Life Insurance salesman.... Your life is complete.

Completely hollow....

[Avante]

Names facts, names facts, names facts...

No analysis, no critical thinking. The Navy, rape young girls, become a Life Insurance salesman.... Your life is complete.

Completely hollow....

Then there is always reality.

Would beat a sick ass pedo to death.
HEALTH insurance salesman.
Can talk circles around you and everyone else here when it comes to all levels of football.

Dude, tell me something I don't know about football that I need to know, well?

Critical thinking, hahahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Stupid, who was that FB who ran back a KO/punt for a score, well? Dude, how about...I don't know...ok?

[pgardn]

Dude, tell me something I don't know about football that I need to know, well?

Critical thinking, hahahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still no answer.
Whats with the dearth (lack of; for HEALTH insurance salesmen) of black FG kickers?

Names facts, names facts, names facts....
Zero analysis. You got nothing.

You are are a hard wired 67 year old. You never learned to think and it's way past your ability now. You are a dusty old Almanac.

[Avante]

The game of football unless you are a coach/current player is all about the who, what, where and when. The great games, teams, players, is football. When it comes to that I have no equal and it should be real obvious.

[Avante]

Still no answer.
Whats with the dearth (lack of; for HEALTH insurance salesmen) of black FG kickers?

Names facts, names facts, names facts....
Zero analysis. You got nothing.

You are are a hard wired 67 year old. You never learned to think and it's way past your ability now. You are a dusty old Almanac.

Dude, if I got nothing then how come all you do here is follow me around? I tried to just ignore your stupidity but you STILL followed me around, ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ONE MORE TIME

What can a dummy like you tell me about football that I need to know that I don't know already well?

Dude, who was that FB that ran back a KO/punt for a TD, well?

Poor little guy, hahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'd just ignore the idiot but as I found out the little freak would STILL follow me around, yep, like so many others here he's owned.

[pgardn]

You are a steam engine competing with a dragster.

Its just silly for you to even attempt to think. You need to ignore me again. It's too much for you. We both know our multiplication tables. Wow!

Think you old pedo, think...

[Avante]

You are a steam engine competing with a dragster.

Its just silly for you to even attempt to think. You need to ignore me again. It's too much for you. We both know our multiplication tables. Wow!

Think you old pedo, think...

All I see is some idiot who can't answer anything I ask him. Who makes Avante his thing to do here.

You come off a boring little shit who knows..0...about the game of football who just can't stand the fact I know all this stuff you don't.

I won't ignore ya anymore, watching you begging for a bone is too sad. Besides it's more fun slapping your dumb ass around.

[pgardn]

All I see is some idiot who can't answer anything I ask him. Who makes Avante his thing to do here.

You come off a boring little shit who knows..0...about the game of football who just can't stand the fact I know all this stuff you don't.

I won't ignore ya anymore, watching you begging for a bone is too sad. Besides it's more fun slapping your dumb ass around.

70-80% of the NFL are black athletes. 0% are FG kickers. Why? Just guess, anything you old fart?

[Avante]

70-80% of the NFL are black athletes. 0% are FG kickers. Why? Just guess, anything you old fart?

It works like this little guy.

Ya don't totally ignore a question by asking a question, ok? If ya don't know who that FB was who returned the KO/punt to score then say so, ok?

Watch and learn.

Dummy...I don't know Avante.
Avante....I knew that.

See how it works, and then ya ask me a question, ok ya little shit?

[pgardn]

It works like this ya little guy.

Ya don't totally ignore a question by asking a question, ok? If ya don't know who that FB wa who returned the KO/puntto score then say so, ok?

Watch and learn.

Dummy...I don't know Avante.
Avante....I knew that.

See how it works, and then ya ask me a question, ok ya little shit?

I ask the questions.
You only know your ABCs. You can't string words together to posit anything of interest.
So this is how we play the game. We don't ask what is the 23 rd letter in the alphabet is. We write a song.
Get it? You like music. So play chess, not tic-tac-toe.

[pgardn]

70-80% of the NFL are black athletes. 0% are FG kickers. Why? Just guess, anything you old fart?

[Avante]

I ask the questions.
You only know your ABCs. You can't string words together to posit anything of interest.
So this is how we play the game. We don't ask what is the 23 rd letter in the alphabet is. We write a song.
Get it? You like music. So play chess, not tic-tac-toe.

All that to get out of saying...

Dummy.... ok ok ok ok, I don't know who that FB was.............. ok?


Hahahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~

[pgardn]

I ask the questions.
You only know your ABCs. You can't string words together to posit anything of interest.
So this is how we play the game. We don't ask what is the 23 rd letter in the alphabet is. We write a song.
Get it? You like music. So play chess, not tic-tac-toe.

Answer my question. You claim to know everything. Just answer it.