Patty Mills injury

[Cry Havoc]

Forthcoming

[Dex]

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If this is what you are going off of, haven't seen a source yet.

[benefactor]

Saw it in the other thread. Guess there goes the national team play.

[Cry Havoc]

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481138739339481088

If this is what you are going off of, haven't seen a source yet.

That's usually a pretty reliable source. They typically only post verified stuff. If this isn't accurate it would be a big surprise.

[spurraider21]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfslY_AvhLw

[Dex]

That's usually a pretty reliable source. They typically only post verified stuff. If this isn't accurate it would be a big surprise.

Yeah, could be true. Only thing I've seen floated around about it so far, but seems like a weird thing for someone to just float on the rumor mill.

If it is true, hopefully Mills can get it taken care of over the offseason and not have to miss too much time.

[Dex]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfslY_AvhLw

:lmao :tu

[TheyCallMePro]

Is this bullshit?

[RD2191]

Damn, are you serious? That fucking sucks.

[Mel_13]

That would really suck for Patty.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Well shite..

[intlspurshk]

He didn't seem to be injured in the final. What happen?

[ducks]

bet he signs a one year deal with spurs

[littlecoyotecoin]

Is this bullshit?

No, it has been a lingering issue, probably. Thus him wearing the kinesiology tape. If he had to play, today, he would. But, now that it's the off-season, you get fixed if you can.

[Robz4000]

Wow, that really sucks. Hope it isn't that serious.

[manufan10]

I sent a tweet to some of the Spurs' beat writers... let's see what they have to say. :lol

[Mr. Body]

Was he under sedative during the team medical exam? I'd be suspicious at this point if I were him.

[boutons_deux]

He didn't seem to be injured in the final. What happen?

remember, he was wearing acres of black shoulder tape at one point.

can't be too bad looking at his playoffs

[Steve-O-Matic]

Guys, no need to act so surprised. It was fairly well-documented that this was a lingering issue which Mills dealt/played with all season, receiving regular treatment and playing with his shoulder taped. Having surgery to correct it once and for all is a good thing for Patty, and a blessing in disguise for the Spurs in their hopes of re-signing him.

[RD2191]

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[RD2191]

:lmaoWe aren't that bad, are we?

[Spurs 4 The Win]

This will help us resign Patty cheap, proabably get a 1-2 million dollar discount, blessing in disguise

[gameFACE]

He seemed fine during the Finals. Game 5, 3rd Q to be exact........ When did he injure it? At the HEB autograph signing?

[littlecoyotecoin]

No, it has been a lingering issue, probably. Thus him wearing the kinesiology tape. If he had to play, today, he would. But, now that it's the off-season, you get fixed if you can.

For those that like a better source than me:

Patty Mills - G - Spurs
Patty Mills has played through a chronic right shoulder injury for the Spurs this season.
Mills wears kinesiology tape on his shoulder during games, and routinely receives treatment, and thus far he hasn't missed a game all season. His 10.1 points per game are a shade under his career high, and he's adding 1.6 threes, 1.8 assists and 0.9 steals as a reliable bench weapon for Gregg Popovich's squad.
Source: San Antonio Express-News Apr 5 - 12:03 PM

[Ron Swanson]

He seemed fine during the Finals. Game 5, 3rd Q to be exact........ When did he injure it? At the HEB autograph signing?

Fell off the stage at the Alamodome.

[look_at_g_shred]

Damn...all that fisting during the river parade caught up to him...fuck!

[NASpurs]

Probably hurt himself trying to carry Parker in game five. Don't ban me Slomo! :cry

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Pop to carefully monitor his number of towel waves next season. May only be allowed a handkerchief until after the AS break.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Damn...all that fisting during the river parade caught up to him...fuck!

He doesn't have a torn sphincter. What parade were YOU at?

[littlecoyotecoin]

For those that like a better source than me:

Patty Mills - G - Spurs
Patty Mills has played through a chronic right shoulder injury for the Spurs this season.
Mills wears kinesiology tape on his shoulder during games, and routinely receives treatment, and thus far he hasn't missed a game all season. His 10.1 points per game are a shade under his career high, and he's adding 1.6 threes, 1.8 assists and 0.9 steals as a reliable bench weapon for Gregg Popovich's squad.
Source: San Antonio Express-News Apr 5 - 12:03 PM

http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/rotator-cuff-repair

[Mr. Body]

Damn...all that fisting during the river parade caught up to him...fuck!

... what?

[Taking it to the Hole]

Still doesn't mean that another team won't try to sign him cheaply as well. Yeah, the Spurs don't have to pay him as much but that also means other teams don't have to pay him as much but just a little bit more than the Spurs offer and he might take it.

[poeticism707]

Probably hurt himself trying to carry Parker in game five. Don't ban me Slomo! :cry

:rollin:rollin:rollin

[BatManu20]

Bummer for Patty.

[davidbowie]

poor patrick

[TampaDude]

He seemed fine during the Finals. Game 5, 3rd Q to be exact........ When did he injure it? At the HEB autograph signing?

Yeah, no shit...did he blow his rotator waving that towel too much? :lol

[cd98]

We need to warn the younger players to not take the towel waiving thing to his level. That said, we really shouldn't be celebrating the fact that a guy who earned a pay day this year might lose out on money because of an injury he sustained in helping us win a title.

[littlecoyotecoin]

As Patty plays the two as much as the one, and a rotator cuff surgery calling for as long as six months for recovery, and Manu expected to break a femur in FIBA, we may have a more interesting time trying to find someone to play at the 2 spot than we may have thought. Also, Cory may be playing heavy minutes at the 1 Until as late as Dec/Jan. Good thing Tony isn't playing summer ball, either, as his minutes to start the season may have just gone up considerably.

[DJR210]

:lol "major" if there is any injury, sure it isn't major.

[BanditHiro]

CIA Pop™

Nobody is going to want to sign a player coming off an injury so his only option is to re-sign with the Spurs.

[siraulo23]

???

[Cry Havoc]

Pop to carefully monitor his number of towel waves next season. May only be allowed a handkerchief until after the AS break.

Where have YOU been?

[timtonymanu]

Hope he bounces back. He was just becoming an elite rotation player in this league with championship experience.

[-21-]

Suck for him. Hope wherever he goes (or stays), that shoulder won't affect his play.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Hope he bounces back. He was just becoming an elite rotation player in this league with championship experience.

Yeah, all joking aside it sucks when bad things happen to good people.

[DMC]

He didn't seem to be injured in the final. What happen?

He was scaling a goliwack tree chasing the red back spider to her den and he fell onto a donkberry bush in the outback.

[Ron Swanson]

He was scaling a goliwack tree chasing the red back spider to her den and he fell onto a donkberry bush in the outback.

Crikey!

[SpurPadre]

Well, Baynes did lift him pretty roughly at the Alamodome ceremony...

[Brazil]

Hope it is not that serious, it would suck for him and the spurs

[100%duncan]

Welp.

[Mikeanaro]

TAKE CARE OF PATTY!!!!
WHERE THE HELL IS JKID!?

[bigfan]

Im calling bullshit.

[ElNono]

gws patty

[cd021]

:lmaoWe aren't that bad, are we?

Can't help but take that as an insult. They have to put a disclaimer to avoid being confused for some of these clowns on this thread.

[jkid12456]

its bullshit.

[still.focused]

I got 3 words
CIA...Pop...BIYATCH!!

[jkid12456]

there is only 1 source. and its probably the worst source tbh.

[Uriel]

Blessing in disguise? This should drive down his value in the open market and make it easier to keep him.

[Raven]

interesting

[024]

Kind of makes his playoff run even more impressive...

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

So much over-reaction as usual. :rolleyes

He played through it during the season, now he'll get it fixed up and be ready for next season. What's the big deal?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I didn't start the game 6 thread I swear

[Dex]

I didn't start the game 6 thread I swear

:lol

[timtonymanu]

So much over-reaction as usual. :rolleyes

He played through it during the season, now he'll get it fixed up and be ready for next season. What's the big deal?

Was this even confirmed? The original source seems sketchy.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

For those that like a better source than me:

Patty Mills - G - Spurs
Patty Mills has played through a chronic right shoulder injury for the Spurs this season.
Mills wears kinesiology tape on his shoulder during games, and routinely receives treatment, and thus far he hasn't missed a game all season. His 10.1 points per game are a shade under his career high, and he's adding 1.6 threes, 1.8 assists and 0.9 steals as a reliable bench weapon for Gregg Popovich's squad.
Source: San Antonio Express-News Apr 5 - 12:03 PM

That's a pretty good source, TTM. ;)

[NRHector]

Well maybe thanks to the injury he was shooting better so if is not broken why fix it

[Baynes]

CIAPOP so other teams wont pursue him and also to prevent him from playing in Australian's Bball team.

[elemento]

It might hurt his value around the league, but I am sure the Spurs will take care of him and keep him in the end.

[spursparker9]

Well maybe thanks to the injury he was shooting better so if is not broken why fix it

:lol

[benfti]

Not sure if true Aussie media would be all over it if he was out for the wc

[100%duncan]

I didn't start the game 6 thread I swear

:lol

[james evans]

good news is, noone will want him, so we may get to keep him

[will_spurs]

Where have YOU been?

In exile, d'uh!

[Nero5]

ha!
lets see... he showed commitment to the team by playing a season while injured, in doing so he contributed well and continued to improve posting very good numbers. He was a GREAT team member who contributed to team harmony (frogging etc), never looked like he would get into trouble and has a great public persona. He was consistent, showed good decision making skills, got the trust and green light to shoot from the most respected coach in the NBA and is clearly trusted by his team mates. Then come finals time he had great games, played decent defense and looked the consummate team player.
So you reckon no one will overlook the injury?

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

there is only 1 source. and its probably the worst source tbh.

No, Patty had an undisclosed shoulder injury 12-13 season. That is why he sat out for about 20 games or so. This year, he just played with a tape on his shoulder most of the season.

He will still get paid by the Spurs. But with this injury, he probably won't get a 5-7+ mil contract by any team. Which pretty much ensures that the Spurs will match and retain Patty.


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[superbigtime]

Glad he played through it. Hopefully just a little arthroscopic cleanup of his labrum and nothing major. May be a little coupon for the Spurs.

[SupremeGuy]

So did this injury become official or is it still just a rumor?

[keywester]

So did this injury become official or is it still just a rumor?

Today's Sydney Morning Herald ran a story about Patty and Exum playing in the World Championships this summer. Maybe ST knows more than the Boomer's coach does?

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/patty-mills-and-dante-exum-basketballs-trump-cards-in-recruitment-battle-with-afl-20140624-zsk7m.html

[Beaverfuzz]

Good summer to take it easy and regroup for next year!

[buttsR4rebounding]

He gave himself repeated pats on the back.

[ace3g]

A shoulder injury has forced a devastated Patrick Mills to withdraw from Australia's world cup campaign as the NBA championship-winner faces up to seven months out of action.
Fairfax Media can reveal Mills will have surgery in the coming days to repair the rotator cuff in his right shoulder.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/san-antonio-spurs-player-patty-mills-out-with-injury-for-seven-months-20140702-zstap.html#ixzz36HN41Eb4

[benfti]

just saw that. Horrible timing for him.

[superbigtime]

Man that's turrble. He's gotta stay a Spur now.

[Baam]

7 months wow... Sucks for him I guess, wonder what will happen now...

[Mel_13]

Really bad timing for Patty. Going to cost him millions.

[T Park]

Only good news is that the spurs can get him back. Gutted for Patty. Deserved a pay day.

[2centsworth]

I think spurs still take care of him.

[spursparker9]

Wow 7 months, that means back in Jan or Feb 2015.

That would certainly kill some interest from teams which are interested in Patty.

[Ron Swanson]

Take care of him and get him ready for after the All-Star Break.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Horrible news for one of my favorite players. I hope the Spurs still pay him his worth and retain him. Kid did so much last year to spur the Spurs' chances.

[Skoobz]

Poor bastard, feel devastated for him. Hopefully the spurs will still retain him at a fair price. I'm guessing PATFO will still offer him the figure they were going to all along. Which is fair, not overpaid.

[DPG21920]

Although different circumstances (injury vs looming lockout), this reminds of the TP situation. I think the Spurs and Patty will find a happy medium and get a deal done that reflects reality but also takes care of Patty.

[Baam]

Take care of him and get him ready for after the All-Star Break.

Well it's so late that you can't let his spot vacant...

[xmas1997]

Wow 7 months, that means back in Jan or Feb 2015.

That would certainly kill some interest from teams which are interested in Patty.

True, and no wonder the Spurs have interest in other PGs for now.

[bigfan]

I originally thought this was a horseshit thread but looks like it was true after all. Well, I feel for the guy but still think we need to keep him around. We can use the first half of the season to bring Cojo along I guess.

[Cry Havoc]

Yep, nothing but overreaction and fear mongering, right guys? :lol

[daslicer]

This is terrible but if the Spurs keep him hopefully he comes back strong for them in the final stretches of the season. He might come back strong like Fisher did for the Lakers in '01 when he was sidelined for most of the year with an stress fracture injury and came back the final month or two of the regular season.

[eDizzle20]

I gotta think that it will be best for Mills and the Spurs to do only a 1 or 2 year deal. I also would have to think the decision to draft a PG in Anderson played a part in the Spurs contingency plan because no doubt the Spurs knew the severity of the injury for quite sometime.

[cjw]

Who's going to wave the towel now? (not that he did much of it last year)

[littlecoyotecoin]

So much over-reaction as usual. :rolleyes

He played through it during the season, now he'll get it fixed up and be ready for next season. What's the big deal?

Great take, as per usual.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Today's Sydney Morning Herald ran a story about Patty and Exum playing in the World Championships this summer. Maybe ST knows more than the Boomer's coach does?

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/patty-mills-and-dante-exum-basketballs-trump-cards-in-recruitment-battle-with-afl-20140624-zsk7m.html

Even in the 21st century, it takes a while for news to reverberate around the globe.

[T Park]

Most likely spurs will do good by him and give him a good contract, 3-4 million a year. Heavily insured.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Yep, nothing but overreaction and fear mongering, right guys? :lol

Yeah. They were shooting the messengers a week ago.

[Uriel]

Props to OP for breaking the news 1 week before it became official. :tu

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Although different circumstances (injury vs looming lockout), this reminds of the TP situation. I think the Spurs and Patty will find a happy medium and get a deal done that reflects reality but also takes care of Patty.

I agree. Spurs take care of their own. I think 16/4 or 12/3 makes sense, whereas before the injury he might've gotten around 20/4.


Great take, as per usual.

Yes, and I stand by it. It's a rotator cuff, not a career ending injury. He'll be back in January. Where is the disaster?

[littlecoyotecoin]

Yes, and I stand by it. It's a rotator cuff, not a career ending injury. He'll be back in January. Where is the disaster?[/QUOTE]

The prediction is for January-March. The prediction was for Dec/Jan, and you were calling it an over-reaction. You now predict January, a week later, when it's reported as January-March, and you're NOT over-reacting. You see no disconnect, there, right?

Then, you fabricate a straw man, that it is not "career ending", as if anyone was saying it was career ending?

It will cost him money, probably. Personally, bad for him. And all of the ripples that it will cause through the 1-2 guards (Bad for us, loss of continuity, 7 months of lost further development by Patty in the system, need for him to get back into shape and rythm before April, having to figure out replacement options with dwindling roster spot availability, etc. - we can survive these things but they are not optimal.) spots are now being speculated about in a fervor, rightly so, as that is 2/3 of the season that will be missed. Bad for us. The only positive thing about it is that we can be happy that we will have to pay him less, now, albeit without his services. That's what you call a Pyrrhic Victory.

Not only was it NOT an over-reaction, but the discussion was pretty much spot on. I don't expect you to concede any of these obvious points, though. I'm cool.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Props to OP for breaking the news 1 week before it became official. :tu

Agreed.

[xmas1997]

I feel a little sad for him, but he will still become a millionaire, and he will still stay in the NBA, and most importantly on the Spurs, so I am not that sorry for him, I am more relieved than anything, he'll be back before we know it.

[jARS mEsH sEt]

I feel a little sad for him, but he will still become a millionaire, and he will still stay in the NBA, and most importantly on the Spurs, so I am not that sorry for him, I am more relieved than anything, he'll be back before we know it.

Being a mere "millionaire" is nothing in this day and age. It's upper middle class at best. My liquid net worth (and total if including primary residence) is higher than Patty's total career earnings (according to basketball reference and assuming he's never had any other sources of income) and I can assure you I don't feel rich. Hell, if that's all Patty has earned in his lifetime his net worth is ~75% of his total B-R career earnings at best assuming $0 expenses (and roughly assuming an effective federal income tax rate of 25%+, though it's probably closer to 30%). In actuality, his net worth is still lower than even 75% of his career earnings given that he has to, you know, use money to live. I absolutely feel sympathy for Patty Mills. He's hasn't earned a truly substantial amount of money in the NBA yet - certainly not a sum that could perpetuate even an upper middle class lifestyle in perpetuity.

Being a "millionaire" in this day and age holds little clout. I've known people earning as little as $60k or $70k/year eventually becoming millionaires by retirement age and they're forced to live a frugal lifestyle because $1M generates maybe $20,000 or $25,000/year in investment income (assuming you don't want to eat into the principal). $10M is the new "million" in modern times.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Being a mere "millionaire" is nothing in this day and age. It's upper middle class at best. My liquid net worth (and total if including primary residence) is higher than Patty's total career earnings (according to basketball reference and assuming he's never had any other sources of income) and I can assure you I don't feel rich. Hell, if that's all Patty has earned in his lifetime his net worth is ~75% of his total B-R career earnings at best assuming $0 expenses (and roughly assuming an effective federal income tax rate of 25%+, though it's probably closer to 30%). In actuality, his net worth is still lower than even 75% of his career earnings given that he has to, you know, use money to live. I absolutely feel sympathy for Patty Mills. He's hasn't earned a truly substantial amount of money in the NBA yet - certainly not a sum that could perpetuate even an upper middle class lifestyle in perpetuity.

Being a "millionaire" in this day and age holds little clout. I've known people earning as little as $60k or $70k/year eventually becoming millionaires by retirement age and they're forced to live a frugal lifestyle because $1M generates maybe $20,000 or $25,000/year in investment income (assuming you don't want to eat into the principal). $10M is the new "million" in modern times.

More that has changed is the meaning of a frugal lifesyle and what it means to most to be rich. If your net worth is 3.6 million dollars (Mills' career earnings) you're definitely if the top few percentile of the population when it comes to wealth...if you sold all of your assets and lived a truly frugal lifestyle, you would never consume all your wealth with your stated $25k annual income. Everything is relative, but you are in the top 1%/5% (individual vs. family of 4) of the wealthy in the US. What has changed is that the people in the top 1%/5% feel as if they are "middle class at best". You're a really smart guy and I like reading your posts. But, you're looking at things a little askew. If you have amassed that kind of wealth, you're doing great. You may rub elbows with other wealthy people that skews your opinion of your prosperity. Comparing yourself, globally, I'm sure you'll do even better.

[ViceCity84]

Damn towel waving probally wrecked his shoulder.I dare anyone here to go to your bathroom/closet and get a towel and start waving it in a cycling motion.I bet your shoulder feels discomfort.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

The prediction is for January-March. The prediction was for Dec/Jan, and you were calling it an over-reaction. You now predict January, a week later, when it's reported as January-March, and you're NOT over-reacting. You see no disconnect, there, right?

Then, you fabricate a straw man, that it is not "career ending", as if anyone was saying it was career ending?

It will cost him money, probably. Personally, bad for him. And all of the ripples that it will cause through the 1-2 guards (Bad for us, loss of continuity, 7 months of lost further development by Patty in the system, need for him to get back into shape and rythm before April, having to figure out replacement options with dwindling roster spot availability, etc. - we can survive these things but they are not optimal.) spots are now being speculated about in a fervor, rightly so, as that is 2/3 of the season that will be missed. Bad for us. The only positive thing about it is that we can be happy that we will have to pay him less, now, albeit without his services. That's what you call a Pyrrhic Victory.

Not only was it NOT an over-reaction, but the discussion was pretty much spot on. I don't expect you to concede any of these obvious points, though. I'm cool.

7 months is January. It won't be March. And that's perfect because it'll take him another month to hit form, which means he should be starting to peak after ASB, just in time for SPAM.

I didn't read the whole thread, only the last couple of pages, and there was a lot of doom-saying in them. Do you always read the whole thread?

Anyway, how about we just ignore each other? The world will be a better place.

[littlecoyotecoin]

7 months is January. It won't be March. And that's perfect because it'll take him another month to hit form, which means he should be starting to peak after ASB, just in time for SPAM.

I didn't read the whole thread, only the last couple of pages, and there was a lot of doom-saying in them. Do you always read the whole thread?

Anyway, how about we just ignore each other? The world will be a better place.

Whether 7 months lands in January or March is irrelevant. Predicting January a week ago got a criticism from you of over-reacting. Now, it's perfectly fine, January. Of course you don't concede we weren't over-reacting, but exactly appropriately reacting, or maybe even under-reacting, according to Woj, a very credible source. Not to mention, you can't start counting until he actually HAS the surgery. Something Woj may have knowledge of, thus the March timeline.

You don't read the whole thread, come in and make blanket statements about the thread, then want to be absolved of your hyperbole because you didn't read the whole thread.

No. I don't always read the whole thread. That is why I try not to make blanket statements as you did, unless I'm being intentionally snarky. And, I try to use specifics when I can. I am not always successful. I have made errors in not reading thoroughly, or misunderstanding and I often admit as much. Try it sometime, instead of continuing to rant about how right you were in the face of evidence to the contrary.

I noticed that you did not cite a single source where even one person stated this was a career-ending injury, as you stated occurred. We both know the reason for this is that it did not happen. The thread was appropriately concerned, and the injury and ramifications of it are proving out.

Your wish to have me ignore you is understandable, as well. Who wants to be held accountable?

[hsxvvd]

3yrs 12 mil.

Probably what he was going to get either way.

[BackHome]

Littlecoyote you need to run for mayor or even against Hilary!!!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Whether 7 months lands in January or March is irrelevant. Predicting January a week ago got a criticism from you of over-reacting. Now, it's perfectly fine, January. Of course you don't concede we weren't over-reacting, but exactly appropriately reacting, or maybe even under-reacting, according to Woj, a very credible source. Not to mention, you can't start counting until he actually HAS the surgery. Something Woj may have knowledge of, thus the March timeline.

You don't read the whole thread, come in and make blanket statements about the thread, then want to be absolved of your hyperbole because you didn't read the whole thread.

No. I don't always read the whole thread. That is why I try not to make blanket statements as you did, unless I'm being intentionally snarky. And, I try to use specifics when I can. I am not always successful. I have made errors in not reading thoroughly, or misunderstanding and I often admit as much. Try it sometime, instead of continuing to rant about how right you were in the face of evidence to the contrary.

I noticed that you did not cite a single source where even one person stated this was a career-ending injury, as you stated occurred. We both know the reason for this is that it did not happen. The thread was appropriately concerned, and the injury and ramifications of it are proving out.

Your wish to have me ignore you is understandable, as well. Who wants to be held accountable?

I never said January was an over-reaction, I only found out that January was the date yesterday. And I can't be bothered going back and finding the thread and quoting the 10 posts I was reacting to because I have a life.

Okay, don't ignore me, keep wasting your time over-reacting to my comments. Have a fuckin ball. :lol

You remind me of T Park and I who used to get into massive flame wars 12 years ago over very little. Then we grew up. :lmao