Why does Lebron get a pass for being swept in the 2007 finals?

[celticfan]

His team did defeat a very formidable and capable team in the Pistons, the only other team in the East that was a conference title contender.

The go to pity excuse for Lebron nut-slurpers is that he didn't have a team surrounding him to compete with the Spurs when they back door swept a perennial Eastern Conference contender in the Pistons in shocking fashion.

[lefty]

Well the Spurs were so much better than Detroit and Boston


So he does get a pass

[spurraider21]

he doesn't get a pass. lebron is probably the most heavily scrutinized superstar i've ever seen :lol

[celticfan]

No he doesn't get a pass. A 2007 Finals between the Spurs and Pistons goes Six games at the very least.

The Lebron led Cavaliers beat a very good borderline great Pistons team that year.

[Malik Hairston]

The Spurs were 5 to 1 favorites to win the series..

And he actually doesn't get a pass from most casual fans, which is stupid logic:lol..

[celticfan]

he doesn't get a pass. lebron is probably the most heavily scrutinized superstar i've ever seen :lol
He does get a pass, from a lot of people. That's what I don't get. He deserves every scrutiny coming his way. But to dismiss the 2007 finals as something that happened because Lebron had no help is a load of bullshit.

[celticfan]

The 2007 Spurs are the weakest Champion outside of the 2009 Lakers in the last 20 years or so.

[baseline bum]

His team did defeat a very formidable and capable team in the Pistons, the only other team in the East that was a conference title contender.

The go to pity excuse for Lebron nut-slurpers is that he didn't have a team surrounding him to compete with the Spurs when they back door swept a perennial Eastern Conference contender in the Pistons in shocking fashion.

And he didn't have a team. Sasha Pavlovic, Boogie Gibson, and Drew Golden started next to him.

[JoeTait75]

First off, the Spurs were a lot better than the Cavaliers. Second, IMO the Cavaliers were just kind of happy to be in the Finals and satisfied with beating the Pistons.

[baseline bum]

No he doesn't get a pass. A 2007 Finals between the Spurs and Pistons goes Six games at the very least.

The Lebron led Cavaliers beat a very good borderline great Pistons team that year.

LOL, the 2007 Pistons were the Webber team, and would have probably gone down in 5 to that Spurs team.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Everyone knew the real Finals occurred in the WCSF vs Pheonix, everything after was simply a formality

[Thread]

Because there is too much money involved. Crucifying him like in the old days is untenable. You can't get the money back that is escaping whilst Media is crucifying. Nickels & dimes it was a wash. Millions & billions has to be protected, dispensed via a centralized Media, hence that Melo to Florida story. ESPN knew there was trouble and would have to be controlled. They flashed that story, then put the talking points & marching orders out via Cowherd to the affiliates.

[celticfan]

And he didn't have a team. Sasha Pavlovic, Boogie Gibson, and Drew Golden started next to him.
Yet that very same team backdoor swept a very good Pistons team.

[Thread]

Everyone knew the real Finals occurred in the >>>>>>WCSF vs Pheonix<<<<<<, everything after was simply a formality

That celebration went out into the street at my abode. Daddy got catfished on that 3. tee, hee.

[King Emmanuel]

That celebration went out into the street at my abode. Daddy got catfished on that 3. tee, hee.

that was actually 08 first round

[Thread]

that was actually 08 first round

I think you're wrong. That 3 was in '07, or, am I mistaken?

[baseline bum]

Yet that very same team backdoor swept a choking ass Pistons team.

[celticfan]

LOL, the 2007 Pistons were the Webber team, and would have probably gone down in 5 to that Spurs team.
LOL, typical Lebron stan take.

The Pistons were suppose to beat the Cavaliers after being up 2-0. They had been in the Eastern Conference Finals four straight years, and had great veteran leadership.

Lebron's Cavaliers overcame all those factors along with being down 0-2 only to get assfucked against the Spurs? Nope, no excuses.

[JoeTait75]

How the Cavaliers fared against the Pistons had no bearing on how they fared against the Spurs. One had nothing to do with the other.

[celticfan]

Yes it does fare. The Cavaliers came back from being down 0-2 in an impressive backdoor sweep over a team that was a perennial Eastern Conference power, who not to mention, were in the finals two years prior and won the whole thing three years back. The Lebron-led Cavaliers should have put up a better showing against the Spurs. In fact, Lebron should have led like the true transcendental superstar he is. He choked a fat dick.

[baseline bum]

LOL, typical Lebron stan take.

The Pistons were suppose to beat the Cavaliers after being up 2-0. They had been in the Eastern Conference Finals four straight years, and had great veteran leadership.

Lebron's Cavaliers overcame all those factors along with being down 0-2 only to get assfucked against the Spurs? Nope, no excuses.

They tied the series 2-2 when it went back to Cleveland and then James singlehandedly won Game 5 in Auburn Hills. Boogie Gibson had an awesome Game 6 back in Cleveland, but never did shit again in a Cleveland uniform.

[Thread]

Yes it does fare. The Cavaliers came back from being down 0-2 in an impressive backdoor sweep over a team that was a perennial Eastern Conference power, who not to mention, were in the finals two years prior and won the whole thing three years back. The Lebron-led Cavaliers should have put up a better showing against the Spurs. In fact, Lebron should have led like the true transcendental superstar he is. He choked a fat dick.

James went [Kobe] during the ass end of those Finals. He kinda flirted with that behavior once again in these last Finals.

[baseline bum]

Yes it does fare. The Cavaliers came back from being down 0-2 in an impressive backdoor sweep over a team that was a perennial Eastern Conference power, who not to mention, were in the finals two years prior and won the whole thing three years back. The Lebron-led Cavaliers should have put up a better showing against the Spurs. In fact, Lebron should have led like the true transcendental superstar he is. He choked a fat dick.

LOL calling that the same Pistons team that went to two Finals when Wallace's defense was replaced by Webber's lead feet.

[baseline bum]

You can kill James for being such a faggot against Dallas and for disappearing for long stretches this Finals, but 2007 ain't on him.

[celticfan]

LOL I love how people prop up the 2007 Spurs as some power. They are easily top two in the weakest champions of the last 20 years. A Lebron-led Cavaliers team who had just backdoor swept a perennial Eastern Conference power in Detroit should have made it a series versus the Spurs.

[celticfan]

You can kill James for being such a faggot against Dallas and for disappearing for long stretches this Finals, but 2007 ain't on him.
No, we can kill him for being a choking faggot in 2007, 2011, part of 2013* and all of 2014 Finals where he out up the most empty stats ever.

*bailed out by Allen

[spurraider21]

damn, are the Celtics that cooked? to the point where you need to come on a spurs forum to vent about a cav/heat player? :lol

or is this just Bird-LeBron inferiority complex stuff?

[Spurs 4 The Win]

I think you're wrong. That 3 was in '07, or, am I mistaken?

You are very mistaken

[Thread]

You are very mistaken

Well, '08 we went to the Finals, 4. I think you're wrong.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Well, '08 we went to the Finals, 4. I think you're wrong.

lol, game 1 of the 2008 first round, duncan hit a three to send it to 2OT, look it up if you dont believe me lol

[Thread]

Well, '08 we went to the Finals, 4. I think you're wrong.


2. Tim Duncan’s 3-pointer at the end of overtime against the Phoenix Suns: Game 1, 2008 Western Conference First Round
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By God you are right. I was wrong. Tip O' the Tam.

[TampaDude]

Everyone knew the real Finals occurred in the WCSF vs Phoenix, everything after was simply a formality

^ this, tbh

Horry hipcheck FTMFW, bitches! :lol

[DMC]

His team did defeat a very formidable and capable team in the Pistons, the only other team in the East that was a conference title contender.

The go to pity excuse for Lebron nut-slurpers is that he didn't have a team surrounding him to compete with the Spurs when they back door swept a perennial Eastern Conference contender in the Pistons in shocking fashion.
He basically did it single handed tbh. That late game performance was one of the best you'll ever see.

[Cry Havoc]

LeBron now being blamed for scoring 28 points in a row vs a good defensive team to make the Finals. :lol

[resistanze]

And why are people obsessed with NBA Finals records tbh? Almost as if it's better to not make the playoffs/lose earlier in playoffs than to loses in the Finals

"LeBron is now 2-3 in the finals!"

As if it's better to be 2-0 in the same span. Devoid of logic.

[spurraider21]

And why are people obsessed with NBA Finals records tbh? Almost as if it's better to not make the playoffs/lose earlier in playoffs than to loses in the Finals

"LeBron is now 2-3 in the finals!"

As if it's better to be 2-0 in the same span. Devoid of logic.
while i generally agree, i think an exception would be something like 2011

[100%duncan]

Spurs would have raped the Pistons in 4 as well.

W:lolbb:lolr

[resistanze]

while i generally agree, i think an exception would be something like 2011

Yeah he disappeared from that series, but to me it isn't because it was the Finals - Mavs had the best gameplan to neutralize him and he couldn't adapt. Superstars have disappeared in earlier rounds and during the regular season (lol missing the playoffs entirely).

[celticfan]

LOL Lebron stans coming out in droves now

[DMC]

And why are people obsessed with NBA Finals records tbh? Almost as if it's better to not make the playoffs/lose earlier in playoffs than to loses in the Finals

"LeBron is now 2-3 in the finals!"

As if it's better to be 2-0 in the same span. Devoid of logic.

That's been the mantra here from the Dales and Cedrics of the forum. KillaKobe81 even said he'd rather be a lottery team than lose a close one in the Finals. They pretend there are only 2 NBA teams after June and one of them lost. The truth is 29 of them lost, but 2 of them made it to the great show. Pretending there's shame in losing there is hilarious considering that 28 other teams never got there to begin with.

[DMC]

LOL Lebron stans coming out in droves now

Not really. You'd be a fucking idiot to think 2007 Lebron was at fault for losing in the Finals. He carried that shitty team past a better team but that only goes so far.

[Thread]

Not really. You'd be a fucking idiot to think 2007 Lebron was at fault for losing in the Finals. He carried that shitty team past a better team but that only goes so far.

But, he did pitch a fit & quit. He started to quit in these Finals, but, the Spurs didn't give him a chance. Before he knew it-it was time to go home.

[DMC]

But, he did pitch a fit & quit. He started to quit in these Finals, but, the Spurs didn't give him a chance. Before he knew it-it was time to go home.

Your Kobe quit mid season. You've no room to talk.

[Thread]

Your Kobe quit mid season. You've no room to talk.

Your Rodman quit in the middle of the playoffs. You've nary room.

[DMC]

Your Rodman quit in the middle of the playoffs. You've nary room.

You pointed the first finger.

[Thread]

You pointed the first finger.

I recognize your flag of truce and will abide.

[DMC]

I recognize your flag of truce and will abide.

I wave no such flag. That's a towel I was using to wipe my spunk off your back.

[Thread]

I wave no such flag. That's a towel I was using to wipe my spunk off your back.

Look at ya:::fantasizing about a man old enough to be your younger brother.

[Ghazi]

The Pistons were terrible that year... Borderline great my dick. He gets a pass because his team was badly
Outclassed and he was only 22..

[DPG21920]

2. Tim Duncan’s 3-pointer at the end of overtime against the Phoenix Suns: Game 1, 2008 Western Conference First Round
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By God you are right. I was wrong. Tip O' the Tam.

Ha!!

[Thread]

Ha!!

When I'm wrong I'm wrong. I've never shied away from admitting my errors. And the kicker on this one is I believe this is the second fucking time I've been wrong about it. I've had this argument before I'm also positive. Obviously I have a mental block of this period, of that shot. For some damn reason I link it with '07.

But, you're not interested in that, Deeps, are you? I'm just wasting my fucking time.

[DPG21920]

Haha!!

[Leetonidas]

Spurs had the best perimeter defender in the league, one of the best defensive bigs of all-time, and they only had to focus on stopping LeBron. lol blaming LeBron for a team starting Boobie Gibson, Sasha Pavlovic, Big Z, and Drew Gooden losing in the Finals :lmao

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

And if Varejao doesn't try to be a hero they might have stolen one in that series, which would amount to a minor miracle in my book.

[Malik Hairston]

Star players that deserve blame for their Finals losses IMO:

- Westbrook in 2012
- Lebron in 2011
- Kobe in 2008
- Dirk in 2006
- Kobe in 2004
- Ewing in 1994

Maybe throw in Karl Malone in '97, but I don't think anybody else played that well outside of Stockton, tbh..

[Clipper Nation]

Why does Dad Killer get a pass for losing in the first round in his early 20s while Kang was dragging a lottery team to the Finals at that age?

Matter of fact, why does DK get a pass for his team replacing him with Pete Myers and barely missing a beat? :lol