Thabo Sefolosha

[BranderC]

Yeah, yeah, I know. Just hear me out.

Honestly, I just want to bring back last year's squad. Restructure Timmy's contract and sell Bonner for scrap to throw more money at the guys who have earned it, then go repeat. But it's pretty likely that somebody wants to overpay Mills (assuming he's healthy), and I don't know that Pop is sold on the idea of CoJo doing what Patty did for us last year. We may need to add another guard. God help me, I have a suggestion.


I'm not saying we *should* target Thabo Sefolosha. I don't actually *think* that we should. But if we *did* get him, it would probably turn out really well for us. Here's why:


- The Boris Diaw Effect - The Spurs have a strong history of taking formerly-celebrated guys who look washed up and finding a way to make them succeed again. Thabo used to be scary, once upon a time; he's not injured, he's not crazy, he hasn't even gotten fat.


- The Danny Green Effect - When a guy who has a few demonstrated NBA skills regresses badly it can be because a less-than-great coach is more focused on accommodating his banner stars than on building a working system. I can't see a reason for Thabo's woes except that Brooks is a lousy coach who doesn't know how to use him. Might be one, but I don't see it.


- The Patty Mills Effect - The regular season taught the world to respect Mills as a sharpshooter, but nobody guessed how great he'd be defensively in the Playoffs. Okay, he's not making anybody's All-D team, but his energy and intelligence made him surprisingly effective. Thabo, if he panned out, could be the opposite: a guy who's known as a solid defender, but who could also (after some late nights with Chip and in a system that creates good-to-great looks from the perimeter) maybe recapture his former utility from range. That would be cool.


Thabo sucked this year, and his total absence in the Playoffs will cost him a ton of money. That's one thing to like about him. And while I don't pretend to know enough about him as a player to say that there *is* a chance of making him the next guy who makes his big comeback in a Spurs jersey, I'm confident that R.C. has a well-informed opinion on the subject. If Sefolosha did end up landing in San Antonio it would be because Pop is confident that he can contribute.


So, yeah. I don't really want to change our roster up one bit, but that may not be an option. I can't see a lot of guys out there on the market who I think could do more with our backup backcourt minutes for the kind of money we'd be looking to spend.

[Emperor]

For nothing more than the vet min i'd say why not.

[BatManu20]

Much rather make a run at Al Farouq Aminu or Marvin Williams.

[DesignatedT]

Not interested.

[spurraider21]

Much rather make a run at Al Farouq Aminu or Marvin Williams.
personally more intrigued with Aminu... i wonder if Chip can repair his jumper at all

[BatManu20]

personally more intrigued with Aminu... i wonder if Chip can repair his jumper at all

Agreed and was wondering the same thing. Only 23 and is a great defender and rebounder. Ton of potential still.

[Mr. Body]

Why do we think SF with some game still left, still in or nearing their primes, would want to play backup to one of the youngest up-and-coming stars at their position?

[ironman2886]

He never impressed me. Inconsistent shooter, and defensively was overrated. He made Tony work sometimes. Big effin deal.

[Muser]

Fuck no, he was horrible for OKC this season.

At this point he'd be Keith Bogans 2.0

[DJR210]

Not interested.

This. After his showing in the WCF, why would you want this joke? Scored like 3 points the entire series, and not even his D could buy him any minutes.

[TampaDude]

Not interested.

^ this, tbh

[cd98]

Our system does allow for guys at his position that can't hit threes.

[benefactor]

No

[Nathan89]

Not enough size, defense, or shooting.

[Chinook]

He'd be one of the worst possible wing additions. I'd rather the Spurs try to trot out DeShaun Thomas at the two than bring Sef in.

[KL2]

He could be the X factor against OKC, this guy has practiced guarding KD/WB for years, he knows their game. I can see this guy reviving his career here and helping SA beat OKC much more easily.

Guys almost always shine the brightest against their former team as well, we see it all the time.

[-21-]

Meh, he's been looking worse and worse the past few seasons. Can't contribute on offense and is overrated on defense. I think the Spurs can do much better at this point, preferably someone more versatile.

[Malik Hairston]

Players like Sefolosha can no longer play in today's NBA, tbh..

[apalisoc_9]

What need does sefelosha fill?

We already have Danny, Manu, Kawhi and Belli...

We're good with wings tbh...

[Baam]

What need does sefelosha fill?

We already have Danny, Manu, Kawhi and Belli...

We're good with wings tbh...

:lol

Beli is easily the weakest link of the whole PO rotation...

[exstatic]

Meh, he's been looking worse and worse the past few seasons. Can't contribute on offense and is overrated on defense. I think the Spurs can do much better at this point, preferably someone more versatile.

He had ONE bad season, when it became apparent that OKC was not going to bring him back. The previous season, he shot 48% overall and 42% from long.

[exstatic]

Players like Sefolosha can no longer play in today's NBA, tbh..

So, Danny Green is done? Because he's a virtual Sef clone, being the younger of the two.

[Ron Swanson]

Not interested.

[Malik Hairston]

So, Danny Green is done? Because he's a virtual Sef clone, being the younger of the two.

Sefolosha has actually been a net negative player for the past 2 years, tbh..his defense was once elite and he could make wide open 3s, which obviously made him comparable to Green, but that hasn't been the case for the past 2 years..

His defense is now just above average, and his offense is poor..his shooting has completely disappeared since last year's playoffs, he's absolutely finished..

He was benched in OKC's most important games of the season, which was very telling, considering they're a shallow team that doesn't have many alternatives..

[ChumpDumper]

For what the Spurs need he would actually be OK if he played for the minimum.

But unnecessary if Bertans is coming over.

[Kineto]

his shooting has completely disappeared since last year's playoffs, he's absolutely finished..

It doesn't seem like a physical issue, but more a like a mental slump. Who knows if in a différent environement, it couldn't be fixed ?

[Spursfanfromafar]

The thing with Sefolosha is that his 3P shooting prior to last season was par for course (even good). He suffered a late season injury this year and that possibly affected his rhythm badly. His defense was still quite good even if he was ineffective against the Spurs in the postseason. If he takes a minimum salary or a 1 year $2 million salary (considering he is only a D specialist now coming off a relatively bad year), he should be picked up by the Spurs for a Leonard backup.

[palangi]

We already have Daye and hopefully Bertans coming over. No need for Sefalosha.

[ajh18]

I actually think Sefalosha would be a good option on a low-cost deal, especially if he sees the Spurs as a chance to rehab his career. Sef has always seemed to me like a better fit as a system-player... which the Thunder don't have. Imagine Danny Green on a team where he pretty much has to create for himself, and defend without a system behind him. I don't think Sefalosha has the skills to succeed in that type of environment, but he might be as a 3-and-D player.

[Strategic]

I cannot imagine trying to find a niche beside Westbrook and Durant. LeBron James makes it easier for his roll players to contribute than those guys. Thabo's time in OKC may have been wasted. With that said I'm not sure the Spurs have a spot.

[Malik Hairston]

:lol Sefolosha gets a ton of open looks on OKC, let's not make shit up now, tbh..

Danny Green is 10x better than Sefolosha, relax..

[phxspurfan]

Spurs will make a run at the Wade stopper simply b/c he is friends with Parker and is from Switzerland (a country they haven't conquered yet)

[TheGoldStandard]

He'd be one of the worst possible wing additions. I'd rather the Spurs try to trot out DeShaun Thomas at the two than bring Sef in.


LOL... Deshaun has a pretty shot though.

[Beaverfuzz]

Thabo is done. Kaput.

[exstatic]

We already have Daye and hopefully Bertans coming over. No need for Sefalosha.

Daye is a scrub. He makes Sef look like an All NBA player.

[T Park]

Daye is a scrub. He makes Sef look like an All NBA player.

Oh gmab....

[cd021]

Why do we think SF with some game still left, still in or nearing their primes, would want to play backup to one of the youngest up-and-coming stars at their position?

Aminu would probably play both forward spots Spurs could go smaller more often (especially off the bench) if they saw fit. He could be used as a stretch 4 assuming his jumper can be repaired.

[exstatic]

Oh gmab....

Daye is Novak with a tan. There is just no position he can defend. He's both breathtakingly light of weight and breathtakingly slow. He gets crushed in the post and blown by on the perimeter.

[cd021]

He had ONE bad season, when it became apparent that OKC was not going to bring him back. The previous season, he shot 48% overall and 42% from long.

The thing is how bad his bad season looked. He hit 18 3's post all star break (including the postseason) that was a a starter averaging about 20 mpg. Even worse, he started to pass up open 3s.

[TheGreatYacht]

Can't be worse than De Culo, Anderson, Shannon Brown, Sam Young, or 2013 Cpt Jack

[exstatic]

The thing is how bad his bad season looked. He hit 18 3's post all star break (including the postseason) that was a a starter averaging about 20 mpg. Even worse, he started to pass up open 3s.

THAT'S why you can likely get him cheap.

[palangi]

THAT'S why you can likely get him cheap.

It is funny to me that you blast Daye, but then laud the signing of sefalosha.

Something tells me you are a grass is always greener on the other side, kind of guy?

[letmk]

What need does sefelosha fill?

We already have Danny, Manu, Kawhi and Belli...

We're good with wings tbh...

A SF who can relatively defend LeBron/Durant is always needed. Even if this additional player does not play much after all existing players, as long as he can play 10 minutes against those elite wing players, he would be valuable to the team.

[moisaenz]

How good of a defender would he be against Durant??

[cd021]

THAT'S why you can likely get him cheap.
so you're in favor of signing Tahbo but not in favor of the Spurs shipping their pick for Shumpert? You mentioned Shumps P.E.R but Sefs was at 10.3 last year. Shumpert as is is better than him with upside thats definitely doesn't have.

Even on the cheap, Sef is still to much. He isnt worth a roster spot.

[Shabazz]

Can't see the Spurs bringing in a wing that can't shoot consistently.

We don't need a defensive stopper with Kawai and Danny on the roster.

[exstatic]

so you're in favor of signing Tahbo but not in favor of the Spurs shipping their pick for Shumpert? You mentioned Shumps P.E.R but Sefs was at 10.3 last year. Shumpert as is is better than him with upside thats definitely doesn't have.

Even on the cheap, Sef is still to much. He isnt worth a roster spot.

Pick. No pick. It's really that simple.

[cd021]

Pick. No pick. It's really that simple.

More likely to help the team now....

and besides its likely to be another draft n' stash. If the Spurs could fill a position of need with an young player with some talent and experience they would be more likely to do that than going after a player that they game planned to ignore on offense because he was a train wreck offensively.

[therealtruth]

He's a washed up one-dimensional player. We won because we didn't have too many one dimensional players. Everybody could create a shot for themselves or somebody else.

[therealtruth]

So, Danny Green is done? Because he's a virtual Sef clone, being the younger of the two.

Give Green more credit. His ability to stretch the defense and play disruptive defense was a big part of why we won. He made Wade look old right after he had a pretty good ECF.