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IrisHockey
06-24-2014, 12:09 AM
How no one cares about the American national teams in basketball and baseball, 2 of the top 3 sports, compared to the attention the USMNT is getting in this world cup? I know the Americans are a fun scrappy underdog to root for but still..

ezau
06-24-2014, 12:11 AM
That's what you have to pay for being too good for too long.

ElNono
06-24-2014, 01:14 AM
There's a baseball national team? :lol

lefty
06-24-2014, 01:35 AM
There's a baseball national team? :lol
:lol Baseball
:lol "sp..


ok I've done enough damage

Infinite_limit
06-24-2014, 02:14 AM
A) Not enough nations know Baseball exists
B) Basketball is too height based. Bosnia Herzegovina has 3 Million people. How many males are over 6 foot 6 and interested in athletics? Etc.

Thread
06-24-2014, 05:38 AM
& soccer is a great babysitting tool.

Clipper Nation
06-24-2014, 05:39 AM
:lol Baseball
:lol "sp..


ok I've done enough damage
lol soccer

mercos
06-24-2014, 10:05 AM
Not really. Baseball is fading in popularity overall. As for basketball, the US men's team is expected to dominate and have little competition. As a result, fans don't pay attention. The reason soccer is getting so much attention is because we are always the underdogs, and Americans love a good underdog story.

The Gemini Method
06-24-2014, 10:21 AM
It's ingrained in our history. An underdog nation who comes of age and dominance and it reminds us of our supposed fabric. That is, unless your black or brown skinned then you are still perpetually stuck in the underdog role.

Cry Havoc
06-24-2014, 10:39 AM
& soccer is a great babysitting tool.

Ya cynic, you.

Thread
06-24-2014, 11:02 AM
Ya cynic, you.

The ring thru my nose is for Girl, not ESPN.

Thread
06-24-2014, 11:04 AM
It's ingrained in our history. An underdog nation who comes of age and dominance and it reminds us of our supposed fabric. That is, unless your black or brown skinned then you are still perpetually stuck in the underdog role.

Or, Sterling perpetually stuck in the gallows there in Los Angeles.

Trainwreck2100
06-24-2014, 11:06 AM
I enjoyed watching the US baseball team before the Ioc fucked em

ImDaNuts
06-24-2014, 11:11 AM
How many countries play bball professionally? Same with baseball? Soccer has leagues all over the world. The World Cup is a huge event. USA BBall is expected to win......so when the USA soccer team starts doing well of course people will tune in because it's surprising.

Thread
06-24-2014, 11:14 AM
How many countries play bball professionally? Same with baseball? Soccer has leagues all over the world. The World Cup is a huge event. USA BBall is expected to win......so when the USA soccer team starts doing well of course people will tune in because it's surprising.

...& ESPN says so.

Cry Havoc
06-24-2014, 11:15 AM
How many countries play bball professionally? Same with baseball? Soccer has leagues all over the world. The World Cup is a huge event. USA BBall is expected to win......so when the USA soccer team starts doing well of course people will tune in because it's surprising.

Basketball is the fastest growing sport in the world. So there's that.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
06-24-2014, 11:50 AM
There's a baseball national team? :lol

Don't hate on the WBC...

PingPong
06-24-2014, 12:00 PM
A) Not enough nations know Baseball exists
B) Basketball is too height based. Bosnia Herzegovina has 3 Million people. How many males are over 6 foot 6 and interested in athletics? Etc.



Don't say it. The world's tallest population resides in the region that covers Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Albânia.


http://www.naturalheightgrowth.com/2013/03/18/the-tallest-people-in-the-world-appear-to-be-from-croatia-and-serbia-specifically-dalmatia-and-the-dinaric-alps/
1)Average Height by Country (Youth:20-30 years)
Country/Average Male Height (cm)/population

1)Average Height (Males) in FT/IN (younger-20-30 years)

Average Height by Country (Youth:20-30 years)

Country/Average Male Height (ft/in)/population

Netherlands 6'0.1" 16318199
Montenegro 6'0'' 625266
Iceland 5'11.5" 319355
Denmark 5'11.3" 5413392
Serbia 5'11.2" 10159046
Croatia 5'11.1" 4496869
Sweden 5'11" 8986400
Slovenia 5'11" 2007711
Czech Republic 5'11" 10246178
Germany 5'11" 82424609
Norway 5'10.9" 4737171
Luxembourg 5'10.7" 486006
Estonia 5'10.7" 1307605
Slovakia 5'10.7" 5397036
Austria 5'10.6" 8174762
Belgium 5'10.5" 10348276
Poland 5'10.2" 38626349
Finland 5'10.1" 5214512
Switzerland 5'10.1" 7450867
Greece 5'10" 10647529
Australia 5'10" 19913144
United Kingdom 5'9.9" 60270708
United States 5'9.9" 293027571
Latvia 5'9.9" 2023825
New Zealand 5'9.9" 3993817
Hungary 5'9.8" 10106017
Lithuania 5'9.8" 3565205
Ireland 5'9.7" 3969558
Ukraine 5'9.5" 47732079
France 5'9.4" 60424213
Canada 5'9.4" 32507874
Russia 5'9.4" 143782338
Israel 5'9.4" 7112359
Turkey 5'9.3" 68893918
Bulgaria 5'9.3" 7500000
Spain 5'9.1" 40280780
Italy 5'8.8" 58057477
Jamaica 5'8.6" 2804332
Romania 5'8.5" 22355551
Azerbaijan 5'8.5" 8177717
South Korea 5'8.4" 48598175
Uruguay 5'8.4" 3399237
Argentina 5'8.3" 39144753
Iran 5'8.3" 67503205
United Arab Emirates 5'8.3" 9205651
Taiwan 5'8" 22920946
Portugal 5'7.9" 10524145
Tunisia 5'7.8" 9974722
Algeria 5'7.8" 32129324
Côte d'Ivoire 5'7.8" 18373060
Japan 5'7.8" 127333002
Hong Kong 5'7.8" 7210505
South Africa 5'7.7" 42718530
Gambia 5'7.7" 1735464
China 5'7.6" 1298847624
Brazil 5'7.5" 184101109
Ghana 5'7.5" 23382848
Colombia 5'7.4" 42310775
Cameroon 5'7.3" 16063678
Chile 5'7.3" 15823957
Singapore 5'7.2" 4353893
Qatar 5'7.2" 1699435
Venezuela 5'7.1" 23542649
Paraguay 5'7.1" 6191368
Egypt 5'7" 76117421
Cuba 5'6.8" 11308764
Thailand 5'6.6" 64865523
Panama 5'6.5" 3661868
Saudi Arabia 5'6.5" 25795938
Mongolia 5'6.3" 2751314
Costa Rica 5'6.1" 4586353
Malawi 5'6.1" 13931831
Malaysia 5'6" 23522482
Bahrain 5'6" 718306
Iraq 5'5.9" 25374691
Nigeria 5'5.8" 138283240
Mexico 5'5.7" 104959594
Ecuador 5'5.6" 14483499
Peru 5'5.5" 27544305
Bolivia 5'5.4" 10496285
North Korea 5'5.4" 22697553
Sri Lanka 5'5.2" 20064776
El Salvador 5'5.2" 5744113
Vietnam 5'5" 82689518
India 5'4.9" 1065070607
Philippines 5'4.6" 86241697
Indonesia 5'4.2" 238452952
Cambodia 5'4" 13363421

Infinite_limit
06-25-2014, 03:00 AM
Basketball is the fastest growing sport in the world. So there's that.
It's difficult to put on a Baseball game. 9 gloves, balls, bats, helmets. A baseball field with mounds. Even in the USA kids are forced to play baseball on Soccer & Football fields.

Soccer is ever growing in the USA commercially. Up until a few years ago you couldn't even watch Top European leagues on television. Now EPL is available on NBC & Bundesliga (German) is joining Fox. If MLS can continue adding quality overseas players, something special could occur.

I remember the year I attended school in Vancouver 1998. They didn't even have a Baseball team. Basketball was #2 behind Hockey. I played Basketball & Rugby.

tenbeersbold
06-25-2014, 05:30 AM
Don't say it. The world's tallest population resides in the region that covers Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Albânia.


http://www.naturalheightgrowth.com/2013/03/18/the-tallest-people-in-the-world-appear-to-be-from-croatia-and-serbia-specifically-dalmatia-and-the-dinaric-alps/
1)Average Height by Country (Youth:20-30 years)
Country/Average Male Height (cm)/population

1)Average Height (Males) in FT/IN (younger-20-30 years)

Average Height by Country (Youth:20-30 years)

Country/Average Male Height (ft/in)/population

Netherlands 6'0.1" 16318199
Montenegro 6'0'' 625266
Iceland 5'11.5" 319355
Denmark 5'11.3" 5413392
Serbia 5'11.2" 10159046
Croatia 5'11.1" 4496869
Sweden 5'11" 8986400
Slovenia 5'11" 2007711
Czech Republic 5'11" 10246178
Germany 5'11" 82424609
Norway 5'10.9" 4737171
Luxembourg 5'10.7" 486006
Estonia 5'10.7" 1307605
Slovakia 5'10.7" 5397036
Austria 5'10.6" 8174762
Belgium 5'10.5" 10348276
Poland 5'10.2" 38626349
Finland 5'10.1" 5214512
Switzerland 5'10.1" 7450867
Greece 5'10" 10647529
Australia 5'10" 19913144
United Kingdom 5'9.9" 60270708
United States 5'9.9" 293027571
Latvia 5'9.9" 2023825
New Zealand 5'9.9" 3993817
Hungary 5'9.8" 10106017
Lithuania 5'9.8" 3565205
Ireland 5'9.7" 3969558
Ukraine 5'9.5" 47732079
France 5'9.4" 60424213
Canada 5'9.4" 32507874
Russia 5'9.4" 143782338
Israel 5'9.4" 7112359
Turkey 5'9.3" 68893918
Bulgaria 5'9.3" 7500000
Spain 5'9.1" 40280780
Italy 5'8.8" 58057477
Jamaica 5'8.6" 2804332
Romania 5'8.5" 22355551
Azerbaijan 5'8.5" 8177717
South Korea 5'8.4" 48598175
Uruguay 5'8.4" 3399237
Argentina 5'8.3" 39144753
Iran 5'8.3" 67503205
United Arab Emirates 5'8.3" 9205651
Taiwan 5'8" 22920946
Portugal 5'7.9" 10524145
Tunisia 5'7.8" 9974722
Algeria 5'7.8" 32129324
Côte d'Ivoire 5'7.8" 18373060
Japan 5'7.8" 127333002
Hong Kong 5'7.8" 7210505
South Africa 5'7.7" 42718530
Gambia 5'7.7" 1735464
China 5'7.6" 1298847624
Brazil 5'7.5" 184101109
Ghana 5'7.5" 23382848
Colombia 5'7.4" 42310775
Cameroon 5'7.3" 16063678
Chile 5'7.3" 15823957
Singapore 5'7.2" 4353893
Qatar 5'7.2" 1699435
Venezuela 5'7.1" 23542649
Paraguay 5'7.1" 6191368
Egypt 5'7" 76117421
Cuba 5'6.8" 11308764
Thailand 5'6.6" 64865523
Panama 5'6.5" 3661868
Saudi Arabia 5'6.5" 25795938
Mongolia 5'6.3" 2751314
Costa Rica 5'6.1" 4586353
Malawi 5'6.1" 13931831
Malaysia 5'6" 23522482
Bahrain 5'6" 718306
Iraq 5'5.9" 25374691
Nigeria 5'5.8" 138283240
Mexico 5'5.7" 104959594
Ecuador 5'5.6" 14483499
Peru 5'5.5" 27544305
Bolivia 5'5.4" 10496285
North Korea 5'5.4" 22697553
Sri Lanka 5'5.2" 20064776
El Salvador 5'5.2" 5744113
Vietnam 5'5" 82689518
India 5'4.9" 1065070607
Philippines 5'4.6" 86241697
Indonesia 5'4.2" 238452952
Cambodia 5'4" 13363421
But AVERAGE...most of the world doesn't have its own purposely inbred over hundreds of years super human athlete pool to draw from

I guess you could say the NBA is one of the only positive things to come from hundreds of years of slavery ;)

Franklin
06-25-2014, 05:39 AM
national average heights are increasing (especially some 3rd world countries thanks to improved living environments) so even if you're at or slightly above your nation's average, it's nothing worth cheering for because you're probably in the bottom quarter of your generation imho.

Mel_13
06-25-2014, 05:54 AM
America watches basketball all the time.

They watch soccer once every four years just like swimming, gymnastics, curling, and skiing.

Thread
06-25-2014, 06:16 AM
America watches basketball all the time.

They watch soccer once every four years just like swimming, gymnastics, curling, and skiing.

Cowherd has an answer for this, Mel, but, it's convoluted and has to do with liberals, old white people, mostly old white men, Fox News, young people, demographics, + a wing & a prayer.

DMC
06-25-2014, 09:37 AM
Or, Sterling perpetually stuck in the gallows there in Los Angeles.

Gallows my ass. He made 2 billion from a team that wasn't worth half that. That's some fancy ass gallows.

TampaDude
06-25-2014, 09:41 AM
Gallows my ass. He made 2 billion from a team that wasn't worth half that. That's some fancy ass gallows.

^ this

Got no idea what Sterling is complaining about. If some fucker offered me twice what my car is worth, I'd sell it to him in an instant.

Clipper Nation
06-25-2014, 09:48 AM
^ this

Got no idea what Sterling is complaining about. If some fucker offered me twice what my car is worth, I'd sell it to him in an instant.
He's senile, and he likes to sue people regardless of his chances of winning just because he gets a kick out of it, tbh....

Btw, the judge totally owned his ass in court the other day, saying that there was nothing illegal with the mental health clause, that DTS was a dumbass for signing it in the first place, that DTS might not be able to bring in his doctors to testify, and that "he could decide this case in five minutes" :lol

It's never a good sign for your chances of winning when the judge asks you point-blank why you're even in court :lol

Thread
06-25-2014, 11:20 AM
He's senile, and he likes to sue people regardless of his chances of winning just because he gets a kick out of it, tbh....

Btw, the judge totally owned his ass in court the other day, saying that there was nothing illegal with the mental health clause, that DTS was a dumbass for signing it in the first place, that DTS might not be able to bring in his doctors to testify, and that "he could decide this case in five minutes" :lol

It's never a good sign for your chances of winning when the judge asks you point-blank why you're even in court :lol

Just cut him down, slope, you've had your fun.

Thread
06-25-2014, 11:22 AM
Gallows my ass. He made 2 billion from a team that wasn't worth half that. That's some fancy ass gallows.

So since he's got $2 billion in escrow it's permissable to drag him into the street and lynch him, then leave him swinging from the tree. Just when the fuck are you going to cut him down?

Thread
06-25-2014, 11:24 AM
^ this

Got no idea what Sterling is complaining about. If some fucker offered me twice what my car is worth, I'd sell it to him in an instant.

How bout if someone came into your house, your home and illegally taped you confessing to say.............I don't know.........a nice juicy one........here's one:::taped you confessing to sleeping with your mother when you were 17, then taking that tape and dispensing it internationally. What do yo think, Tamps?

Infinite_limit
06-25-2014, 12:28 PM
America watches basketball all the time.

They watch soccer once every four years just like swimming, gymnastics, curling, and skiing.
Basketball is below Auto Racing in popularity & barely above Hockey (Which is difficult to find on TV), although it's aired on ESPN & constantly shoved down the throats of viewers

If European soccer aired on ESPN & they committed an entire day to discuss where free agents will sign. You can bet Soccer would be more popular than NBA

Mel_13
06-25-2014, 01:11 PM
Basketball is below Auto Racing in popularity & barely above Hockey (Which is difficult to find on TV), although it's aired on ESPN & constantly shoved down the throats of viewers

If European soccer aired on ESPN & they committed an entire day to discuss where free agents will sign. You can bet Soccer would be more popular than NBA

I'd take that bet.

Thread
06-25-2014, 01:13 PM
I'd take that bet.

& I'd bankroll my good friend Mel.

TampaDude
06-25-2014, 02:05 PM
How bout if someone came into your house, your home and illegally taped you confessing to say.............I don't know.........a nice juicy one........here's one:::taped you confessing to sleeping with your mother when you were 17, then taking that tape and dispensing it internationally. What do yo think, Tamps?

Said person would be in my home illegally and die from a blast from my 12-gauge, then the coroner would find said tape erased and inserted into said someone's rectum. Of course, that's not going to happen, because it was YOUR mom I slept with when I was 17.

Let us proceed...tee hee...

Infinite_limit
06-25-2014, 08:02 PM
I'd take that bet.
You are overrating the NBA product. It's the off-season sport for a reason. More people care about where free agents sign than 95% of the season + playoffs. The sport doesn't matter for 6 months. How often does a team lower than the 4th or even 3rd seed make the NBA Finals.....or Win.

NBA needs to slim down the regular season, eliminate atleast 4 teams for the product to improve. Too many meaningless games, too many playoff teams and furthermore the Conferences are unbalanced. It's just a shitty product at the moment.

Malik Hairston
06-26-2014, 01:10 AM
The notion that the NBA's popularity is declining is false, tbh..fabrication created by old heads that complain about trivial flaws in today's game..it's probably mostly due to the decline in White Americans, since they aren't good enough to play in a league full of Black and International players..

If you account for market size of the teams involved, the past 4 Finals have generated massive ratings, tbh..it's tough to argue a league is declining in popularity when their Finals' are drawing great numbers:lol..

apalisoc_9
06-26-2014, 01:36 AM
Basketball is the second biggest sport in the world and is only behind soccer in terms of growth..:lol

Basketball and Soccer would wipe the floor 50 years from now when the world starts to get poorer and poorer..

I have no doubt in my mind when I turn 70, Football and Hockey would be too expensive..Baseball is done.

Soccer











Basketball




































































































































































































































some other sport.

JohnnyMax
06-26-2014, 01:50 AM
Soccer must not have been invented when the colonies were settled. Other wise, people of English and German descent wouldn't hate it.

HI-FI
06-26-2014, 01:55 AM
Infinite_Limit is right that they could easily improve basketball, first by cutting down on the RS. Less is more.

Baseball is another story, not sure where that's going. It seems to have lost a lot of ground considering it used to be the national past time.

Football is enjoyable but not sure how it will fare with all the concussion stuff, which could get worse as more research is done on the brain. If more parents are scared to get their kids involved, then the talent drain will be noticeable.

I like soccer but it's not perfect either. If the NFL goes slightly down in popularity, MLS and NBA will benefit the most imo.

Infinite_limit
06-26-2014, 02:00 AM
The notion that the NBA's popularity is declining is false, tbh..fabrication created by old heads that complain about trivial flaws in today's game..it's probably mostly due to the decline in White Americans, since they aren't good enough to play in a league full of Black and International players..

If you account for market size of the teams involved, the past 4 Finals have generated massive ratings, tbh..it's tough to argue a league is declining in popularity when their Finals' are drawing great numbers:lol..
People watch the Heat. They watch the Spurs in the Finals. But do they tune in when the other 28 teams in the League are playing? Do they tune in on a Sunday ABC afternoon? Or a TNT weekday?

Do people watch the
- Raptors
- 76ers
- Cavs
- Pistons
- Bucks
- Charlotte (How many Americans know Charlotte recently changed mascots? How many know they even changed to Pelicans to begin with?)
- Hawks
- Magic

^ No one is tuning into those teams playing on National Television. And that's only the Eastern Conference.

Americans will watch the Jaguars play the Bills. Because it's Football. Games actually matter and players truly try. It's a really bad sign when the NBA is giving away free tickets Why can’t NBA teams fill arenas, even after giving away free tickets?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/why-t-nba-teams-fill-arenas-even-giving-193354981--nba.html

Biernutz
06-26-2014, 02:15 AM
When the Americans are eliminated in the world cup it will drop off the the sports radar in a flash. NFL training
camps and fantasy football leagues will be the focus then.......

Pelicans78
06-26-2014, 02:15 AM
Actually Cricket is the 2nd most popular sport in the world behind soccer.

Malik Hairston
06-26-2014, 10:44 AM
People watch the Heat. They watch the Spurs in the Finals. But do they tune in when the other 28 teams in the League are playing? Do they tune in on a Sunday ABC afternoon? Or a TNT weekday?

Do people watch the
- Raptors
- 76ers
- Cavs
- Pistons
- Bucks
- Charlotte (How many Americans know Charlotte recently changed mascots? How many know they even changed to Pelicans to begin with?)
- Hawks
- Magic

^ No one is tuning into those teams playing on National Television. And that's only the Eastern Conference.

Americans will watch the Jaguars play the Bills. Because it's Football. Games actually matter and players truly try. It's a really bad sign when the NBA is giving away free tickets Why can’t NBA teams fill arenas, even after giving away free tickets?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/why-t-nba-teams-fill-arenas-even-giving-193354981--nba.html

Of course the NBA isn't anywhere near the NFL, that's never going to change..

Fans not watching shitty teams isn't any different in baseball or hockey, though..football is on another level..

And I agree that the NBA needs to eliminate some teams..