Week one?

[Avante]

Johnny Manziel on the road vs the Steelers?

Packers in Seahawk country, do they have bad memories or what?

Colts in Broncoville on a Sunday night?

The Niners with that offense in Cowboy country with that defense?

The Raiders on the east coast vs the Jets? Raiders are 1-9 in week one in the last 10 years. They are 0-6 in New York state the last 10 years.

What team hasn't lost in week one for over 10 years? Try....the Pats!

What team has only won once in week one in the last 10 years.....the Browns!

[J.T.]

Colts would have probably been a solid lock to beat Denver on opening Sunday night until Robert Mathis got suspended for taking drugs to help him be a dad. Still, Andrew Luck is going to have 10x the weapons he ended last season with in that game. Reggie Wayne back from the knee injury. Hakeem Nicks the free agent acquisition. Donte Moncrief, the big exciting rookie from Mississippi, upcoming 2014 Pro-Bowler T.Y. Hilton, and the dynamic tight end Dwayne Allen returning from injury. Fleener won't be a starter with Allen back, but he showed better hands and toughness last year than he did in Year 1. If Luck gets moderately good protection from the line, he is totally poised to go pass-for-pass with Manning. Could be a shootout decided by a field goal.

[J.T.]

Please note that my exclusion of the Colts running game as a "weapon" was by design. I fully expect Trent Richardson to continue sucking until I am given evidence to believe otherwise. Would not be surprised if he doesn't even win the job in camp.

[Darth_Pelican]

Saints have a tough road opener at Atlanta. I hate having the first 2 on the road this year. Early in the season, every team has hope that they can win and make the playoffs; no tanking, no half-assed effort, etc.

[Blake]

How much will Avante owe his bookie after week 1

[spurraider21]

somehow the raiders east coast performance in 05, 06, 07, etc bear weight on what will happen in week 1 this year. cool story

[The Gemini Method]

We about to get up in that Rodgers grill and raise da banner! Spur-Addict bring tha noise!!!

[Spur-Addict]

We about to get up in that Rodgers grill and raise da banner! Spur-Addict bring tha noise!!!

Thassss right! Champs. Part 2 of the Rodgers terror. I forgot how many times we sacked him last time. I think 8 times

[johnsmith]

somehow the raiders east coast performance in 05, 06, 07, etc bear weight on what will happen in week 1 this year. cool story

Well sure...if you go by avantes logic, I'm not sure why they bother playing anymore, what with all the data out there in the internet.

[703 Spurz]

Dolphins will beat NE 50-2.

[Blake]

Dolphins will beat NE 50-2.

oh, Henne is back?

[Ditty]

I'll be in Houston for week one vs the Texans :toast

[Pelicans78]

Saints have a tough road opener at Atlanta. I hate having the first 2 on the road this year. Early in the season, every team has hope that they can win and make the playoffs; no tanking, no half-assed effort, etc.

If they get the running game going early and often, that will silence that crowd quickly. Falcons have no defense but a loud crowd will help. Running the ball will quiet them. The Saints o-line will be much better this season.

[Avante]

Colts would have probably been a solid lock to beat Denver on opening Sunday night until Robert Mathis got suspended for taking drugs to help him be a dad. Still, Andrew Luck is going to have 10x the weapons he ended last season with in that game. Reggie Wayne back from the knee injury. Hakeem Nicks the free agent acquisition. Donte Moncrief, the big exciting rookie from Mississippi, upcoming 2014 Pro-Bowler T.Y. Hilton, and the dynamic tight end Dwayne Allen returning from injury. Fleener won't be a starter with Allen back, but he showed better hands and toughness last year than he did in Year 1. If Luck gets moderately good protection from the line, he is totally poised to go pass-for-pass with Manning. Could be a shootout decided by a field goal.

Denver is 9-1 in home openers the last 10 years. I have a hard time seeing a team with a suspect running game making it 2-9. Don't get me wrong the Colts will have a great season a 12-4/13-3 a very real possibility. Just not in this "spot'.

What's the status of Ahmad Bradshaw? Ballard will be back and speedy Chris Rainey needs to be used ...right! Why they let a guiy who averaged over 5 yards a carry go...???

[Avante]

Saints have a tough road opener at Atlanta. I hate having the first 2 on the road this year. Early in the season, every team has hope that they can win and make the playoffs; no tanking, no half-assed effort, etc.

The Saints could easily be 5-0 heading into their bye week. They will be favored in every game.

But you guys have a brutal....

Green Bay
at Carolina
Niners
Cinncy
Baltimore
at Pitt
Carolina

...ouch~

[Avante]

Well sure...if you go by avantes logic, I'm not sure why they bother playing anymore, what with all the data out there in the internet.

What logic, how about the facts? And all this info....Marc Lawrence PLAYBOOK...a gamblers guide.

Raiders on the road.

2013...1-7
2012...1-7

That's under Dennis Allen. The worst team in the league on the road, 2-14 the last two seasons. The teams they beat Houston last season and Kansas City the year before.

[Avante]

Dolphins will beat NE 50-2.

The Dolphins are 1-9 the last 10 years in that first game with the Pats.

[johnsmith]

What logic, how about the facts? And all this info....Marc Lawrence PLAYBOOK...a gamblers guide.

Raiders on the road.

2013...1-7
2012...1-7

That's under Dennis Allen. The worst team in the league on the road, 2-14 the last two seasons. The teams they beat Houston last season and Kansas City the year before.
Sure, but you've also proven in this forum that you're not good at gambling, so wtf do you know?

[703 Spurz]

The Dolphins are 1-9 the last 10 years in that first game with the Pats.

Does that mean they'll be 1-100 against them the next 91 years?

[MeloHype]

Seahawks
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[Avante]

Sure, but you've also proven in this forum that you're not good at gambling, so wtf do you know?

I know every betting angle/stat/trend there is in existance, that's what I know.

There is only one "spot" where the Raiders shine, that would be vs SD in SD. There there are 7-3 and 4-1 vs the number. There is no other situation where they would even thought of as a good beat. Last three seasons...7-10-1 in the Div vs the number.

[johnsmith]

I know every betting angle/stat/trend there is in existance, that's what I know.

There is only one "spot" where the Raidrs shine, that would be vs SD in SD. There there are 7-3 and 4-1 vs the number. There is no other situation where they would even thought of as a good beat. Last three seasons...7-10-1 in the Div vs the number.

That's fine...frankly, you've proven on this site that you do indeed know a lot about gambling...unfortunately, you've also proven that you're not very good at it either. You know all the info, you just don't know what to do with the info.

[Avante]

Does that mean they'll be 1-100 against them the next 91 years?

No, it means as long as Belichick/Brady and the rest of that coaching staff stay intact and Miami has Joe Philpin/Ryan Tannehill and that coaching staff stays intact, there is no reason to see any dramatic changes.

Dolphins have scored 57 with the Pats scoring 88 in that "spot" I mentioned. So the average game has been Mia 19 NE 29. You see any reason that should be different this time around?

[johnsmith]

No, it means as long as Belichick/Brady and the rest of that coaching staff stay intact and Miami has Joe Philpin/Ryan Tannehill and that coaching staff stays intact, there is no reason to see any dramatic changes.

Dolphins have scored 57 with the Pats scoring 88 in that "spot" I mentioned. So the average game has been Mia 19 NE 29. You see any reason that should be different this time around?

So is that going to be one you lay money on?

[Avante]

That's fine...frankly, you've proven on this site that you do indeed know a lot about gambling...unfortunately, you've also proven that you're not very good at it either. You know all the info, you just don't know what to do with the info.

When will it ever hit you....I DON'T GIVE OUT FREE PLAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I spend too much time disecting this stuff to simply hand over this info on a messageboard, why make $$$$ for others with me getting nothing? Me and my son saw a fish in Blake, so we jacked around with the idiot. We had fun with the dummy.

Dude, just turn on.. The Herd... every Friday during the football season, you will get five plays the Vegas wise guys will be playing, they hit over 65% last season, now think....I just ignore those plays?

In this gambling guide I mentioned they have a ton of "historicallly" strong plays. I just ignore all that? You have any idea how many sites out there are hitting over 60%. I just ignore all that?

I pick out that weeks five strongest ATS (homework) plays. A play where one team has a multitude of reasons to play them. Then I go looking for agreement.

Now think...

Settle is 26-11 the last two seasons vsw the number. The Niners are 22-16. If you had just played them every week...48-27. See any reason to get off them in 2014?

[Avante]

So is that going to be one you lay money on?

Dude, it's June. Need I say more?

[johnsmith]

When will it ever hit you....I DON'T GIVE OUT FREE PLAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I spent too much time disecting this stuff to simply hand over this info over a messageboard, why make $$$$ for others with me getting nothing? Me andf my son saw a fish in Blake, so we jacked around with the idiot. We had fun with the dummy.

Dude, just turn on The Herd every Friday during the football season, you will gert five plays the Vegas wise guys wilol be playing, they hit over 65% last season, now thinbk....I just ignore those plays?


When are you going to realize that no one on this site knows you and we can only go off what you post on here. When you post a bunch of picks and then use an excuse AFTER those picks are unsuccessful it makes you look like a liar. It also makes you look extremely childish, which is sorta ironic considering you're always complaining about "kids hiding behind computers".

[johnsmith]

Dude, it's June. Need I say more?

So why discuss it?

[johnsmith]

Also, you don't give out free plays but you get all your opinions from The Herd...sounds scientific and dumb.

Don't reply to this either, it doesn't matter.

[Avante]

When are you going to realize that no one on this site knows you and we can only go off what you post on here. When you post a bunch of picks and then use an excuse AFTER those picks are unsuccessful it makes you look like a liar. It also makes you look extremely childish, which is sorta ironic considering you're always complaining about "kids hiding behind computers".

I look for real football talk, when we see obvious idiots lie this Blake guy acting stupid I mess with them. I have no respect for posters like that at all. I want to talk about the game they want to bother people so I simply mess with them, that isn't obvious?

I've been betting the NFL for over 40 years, I have everything a gambler needs to be a success at it. Let's take week two for an example....Chicago is 0-8 vs the Number at Niners. Why should this change? I have tons and tons of those types of strong plays.

If we can get a "Pick Um" contest going here I 'll finally make some real plays.

[Avante]

Also, you don't give out free plays but you get all your opinions from The Herd...sounds scientific and dumb.

Don't reply to this either, it doesn't matter.

I'll go slow...

Do you pay any attention at all? I do all the work myself, ok? By Friday morining I have eliminated all but five plays....ok? THEN....I go looking for agreement....ok ya with me? If "pro gamblers" agree with me.....yep, a play. If they don't...nope! If they talk about other games I take a closer look at them....ok ya with me?


Like talking to some dumb kid, sheesh~~~~~~~~

[johnsmith]

I look for real football talk, when we see obvious idiots lie this Blake guy acting stupid I mess with them. I have no respect for posters like that at all. I want to talk about the game they want to bother people so I simply mess with them, that isn't obvious?

I've been betting the NFL for over 40 years, I have everything a gambler needs to be a success at it. Let's take week two for an example....Chicago is 0-8 vs the Number at Niners. Why should this change? I have tons and tons of those types of strong plays.

If we can get a "Pick Um" contest going here I 'll finally make some real plays.


No, it's not obvious. It seems far more likely to everyone here that you make poor picks and then blame it on someone else. That's what is obvious...and it's amazing that you still don't get that.

Also very childish...like I said earlier.

[johnsmith]

I'll go slow...

Do you pay any attention at all? I do all the work myself, ok? By Friday morining I have eliminated all but five plays....ok? THEN....I go looking for agreement....ok ya with me? If "pro gamblers" agree with me.....yep, a play. If they don't...nope! If they talk about other games I take a closer look at them....ok ya with me?


Like talking to some dumb kid, sheesh~~~~~~~~

Except then you make up fake picks and post them on here eh? God you're a fucking liar. And childish.

[Avante]

No, it's not obvious. It seems far more likely to everyone here that you make poor picks and then blame it on someone else. That's what is obvious...and it's amazing that you still don't get that.

Also very childish...like I said earlier.

So I check out...The Herd.,..but totally ignore what the pro gamblers tell us...right? I have a number oif books/mags on gambling, I read all that but ignore all of it, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you really this lame? Childish is following me around complaining...talk football.

[Avante]

Except then you make up fake picks and post them on here eh? God you're a fucking liar. And childish.

Dude, why not come here to talk football..ok? You are too concerned with what posters do, why? I only care when they mess with me.

Talk football half pint, ok? Don't get all wrapped up in....me....ok?

[johnsmith]

Dude, why not come here to talk football..ok? You are too concerned with what posters do, why? I only care when they mess with me.

Talk football half pint, ok? Don't get all wrapped up in....me....ok?

How about instead I talk about whatever the fuck I want to wherever I want to and you can't do a fucking thing about it? If you don't fucking like it then don't reply to me.

[Avante]

How about instead I talk about whatever the fuck I want to wherever I want to and you can't do a fucking thing about it? If you don't fucking like it then don't reply to me.

Sorry little fella but you're in my thread, ok? So either start talking football instead of seeing who you can bug or leave. Look at yourself half pint, all yoiu ever do is attack others, why not actually talk about the topic of a thread, ya ever try that?

TALK FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

Starting right now unless you talk football I'm done with your faggot ass here on this forum.

[johnsmith]

Sorry little fella but you're in my thread, ok? So either start talking football instead of seeing who you can bug or leave. Look at yourself half pint, all yoiu ever do is attack others, why not actually talk about the topic of a thread, ya ever try that?

TALK FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

Starting right now unless you talk football I'm done with your faggot ass here on this forum.

Lol...nah, I will go ahead and talk about whatever the fuck I want to and you will do jack shit about it bitch.

[Avante]

Lol...nah, I will go ahead and talk about whatever the fuck I want to and you will do jack shit about it bitch.

You won't be talking to me bitch unless it's ...real football...related, you got that fucker? Dude, leave the posters alone, talk about the topic ya got asshole?

Now what about week one? Nobody gives a shit about all your problems...TALK FOOTBALL!

[ohmwrecker]

You won't be talking to me bitch unless it's ...real football...related, you got that fucker? Dude, leave the posters alone, talk about the topic ya got asshole?

Now what about week one? Nobody gives a shit about all your problems...TALK FOOTBALL!

Stop being an internet tough guy and accept my bet. What are you afraid of?

[johnsmith]

You won't be talking to me bitch unless it's ...real football...related, you got that fucker? Dude, leave the posters alone, talk about the topic ya got asshole?

Now what about week one? Nobody gives a shit about all your problems...TALK FOOTBALL!

Hmmmm...nope, I will go ahead and continue to post whatever I want to wherever I want to.

You're a little bitch

[Avante]

Hmmmm...nope, I will go ahead and continue to post whatever I want to wherever I want to.

You're a little bitch

Little man.....TALK FOOTBALL OR SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[703 Spurz]

No, it means as long as Belichick/Brady and the rest of that coaching staff stay intact and Miami has Joe Philpin/Ryan Tannehill and that coaching staff stays intact, there is no reason to see any dramatic changes.

Dolphins have scored 57 with the Pats scoring 88 in that "spot" I mentioned. So the average game has been Mia 19 NE 29. You see any reason that should be different this time around?

Miami beat New England last year in Miami. They were also up 17-3 at the half in NE before remembering they don't usually win 10 games a year and they lost by 10.

It isn't an impossible feat to beat NE even if their opening record as of late has been good.

[The Batman]

Week one - JJ Watt and Clowney break both RG3's knees in half

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

We have such a brutal early schedule... we start out against Tampa in FL..

[Avante]

Miami beat New England last year in Miami. They were also up 17-3 at the half in NE before remembering they don't usually win 10 games a year and they lost by 10.

It isn't an impossible feat to beat NE even if their opening record as of late has been good.

The Dolphins are 1-3 with Philpin in charge vs the Pats. Now add that 10-0 trend about week one. So you will be bucking a 13-1 trend, that's not good. Now add a 9-1 trend with the Pats vs the division in that first division game. Now you are bucking a 22-2 trend.

[J.T.]

Well, turns out I'll be sitting in some lower level sideline seats for that Week 1 Broncos-Colts game on Sunday night. Anyone been to Mile High before? I'm going to start so much shit.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Please note that my exclusion of the Colts running game as a "weapon" was by design. I fully expect Trent Richardson to continue sucking until I am given evidence to believe otherwise. Would not be surprised if he doesn't even win the job in camp.


No faith in Bradshaw and Ballard?

[J.T.]

No faith in Bradshaw and Ballard?

Not really. Bradshaw's a lock to get hurt again. If Ballard can do what Donald Brown did last year, then it might be okay, but the Colts are at a disadvantage any time they put Two Yard Trent on the field because no defense respects him right now.

Now if Trent blows my mind and actually produces this year then fine. But going on last year, I still hate the trade and don't expect much improvement.

[Avante]

Not really. Bradshaw's a lock to get hurt again. If Ballard can do what Donald Brown did last year, then it might be okay, but the Colts are at a disadvantage any time they put Two Yard Trent on the field because no defense respects him right now.

Now if Trent blows my mind and actually produces this year then fine. But going on last year, I still hate the trade and don't expect much improvement.

Why is anyone a lock to get hurt again explain that to me.

[Aztecfan03]

Why is anyone a lock to get hurt again explain that to me.

IF there was a pattern of them being hurt every season it would be kind of like your "spots" but there isn't enough of a pattern for Bradshaw.