How many would MJ have gone on to win?

[Thebesteva]

Was watching his infamous 1 hour interview with Ahmad Rashad from 2 years ago, he said it haunts him that he stopped at 6. He said he wanted to go on until someone beat them and they had atleast another 1 or 2 in them. Instead, the owner messed up the team and he didnt want to come back. Recall, the Spurs were the champs the following year when he left

That motherfucker is the GOAT. He didnt just win 6 and fizz out, he was still in his prime :wow

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Was watching his infamous 1 hour interview with Ahmad Rashad from 2 years ago, he said it haunts him that he stopped at 6. He said he wanted to go on until someone beat them and they had atleast another 1 or 2 in them.

That motherfucker is the GOAT

Though those 2 in D.C.. aren't a mirage. They count, just like the 2 when he was barnstorming America.

[IrisHockey]

Though those 2 in D.C.. aren't a mirage. They count, just like the 2 when he was barnstorming America.

Just like Daddy's final year in Boston :lol

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Just like Daddy's final year in Boston :lol

Precisely, like Duncan's inability to scale a Battier.

[DMC]

Precisely, like Duncan's inability to scale a Battier.
He scaled him just fine, it just took longer than expected.

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He scaled him just fine, it just took longer than expected.

The delay was catastrophic, D. It's why The Bag hasn't seen California yet.

[ambchang]

The bulls were gassed after 98.

Also, their strength was perimeter D but the spurs were heavy on interior offense. The twin towers will also cause all kinds of problems for Jordan and pippen.

If the bulls would struggle with rik smits and Ewing, they would have more problems with Duncan and Robinson.

Spurs in 6.

[baseline bum]

The bulls were gassed after 98.

Also, their strength was perimeter D but the spurs were heavy on interior offense. The twin towers will also cause all kinds of problems for Jordan and pippen.

If the bulls would struggle with rik smits and Ewing, they would have more problems with Duncan and Robinson.

Spurs in 6.

And then 2000 Shaq for their second shot? :lol

[mercos]

Bulls barely got it done in 98. It would have been a monumental struggle to win in 99 without big changes to the roster.

[Greg Oden]

Pippen for young T-Mac etc


goat lighting a fire under McGrady :wow

[ezau]

Was watching his infamous 1 hour interview with Ahmad Rashad from 2 years ago, he said it haunts him that he stopped at 6. He said he wanted to go on until someone beat them and they had atleast another 1 or 2 in them. Instead, the owner messed up the team and he didnt want to come back. Recall, the Spurs were the champs the following year when he left

That motherfucker is the GOAT. He didnt just win 6 and fizz out, he was still in his prime :wow

He could've won 8 straight from 91-98, tbh.

[davethedope]

He could've won 8 straight from 91-98, tbh.

Nah Rockets vs. Bulls with Jordan would've been a good series and the Rockets could've won

[TDMVPDPOY]

what was the bulls 94/95 95/96 roster?

i think they too wouldve won against the rockets

rockets back court suck monkey dick, bulls has plenty of bigs with 6 fouls to hand out to keep dream dreaming

[Malik Hairston]

The Rockets were 5-1 against the Bulls in their matchups during Chicago's 3-peat run, and 4 of those 5 wins were by double-digits..they owned the Bulls during Hakeem's prime in the 90s, there's no reason to believe Houston wouldn't have still won both titles(especially considering the Bulls' fatigue from a potential 4th straight Finals run), even if Jordan hadn't been forced to take time off due to playing a part in the homicide of his own father..

[Russo21]

Wish Jordan would just disappear. He's been gone for 16 years now and living in the past. Bulls never met a great big man in the finals. 93 they met chubby undersized PF Barkley, 96 Shawn Kemp, 97 and 98 choker Malone. They would have had so much trouble guarding and scoring against prime 7 footers Duncan and Robinson and Hakeem. Not to mention Jordan did come back in 95 and got smacked by Shaq Daddy's Magic who then got smacked by Hakeem's Rockets. Who's to say if Jordan didn't retire to join forces with Bugs Bunny and co. that the Bulls woulda made the finals and then beat Hakeems Rockets. Had they gone on to beat the Rockets in 94 and 95, would they have had any gas in the tank to go the extra distance and win 96, 97, 98, let alone 99 against Duncan and Robinson or 00 against beastly shaq. I know this was from a few years back but please move on MJ. You retired prematurely 2 times so we'll never know these answers. Sail off into the sunset, concentrate on being an owner and not make mistakes like selecting Kwame Brown with the number 1 pick and the likes of Adam Morrison etc. etc.

[Chinook]

They've stopped at six. The 00s were a completely different type of basketball, and the Spurs and Lakers were beasts the Bulls never had to face. The real question is that had Jordan stay on and the Bulls lost in the Finals to both the Spurs and the Lakers, would Duncan, Kobe or Shaq have a legit GOAT case?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

The Rockets were 5-1 against the Bulls in their matchups during Chicago's 3-peat run, and 4 of those 5 wins were by double-digits..they owned the Bulls during Hakeem's prime in the 90s, there's no reason to believe Houston wouldn't have still won both titles(especially considering the Bulls' fatigue from a potential 4th straight Finals run), even if Jordan hadn't been forced to take time off due to playing a part in the homicide of his own father..

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and OKC was 4-0 against San Antonio in the regular season

and Brooklyn was 4-0 against Miami in the regular season

[dg7md]

He made the right move retiring at 6, because there's a good chance he might have gone 6-2 in the Finals, or 7-1, which seems worse than being 6-0 in terms of his legacy. The NBA was indeed changing by the time Jordan was retiring, so he made the right move to become the demigod of basketball by retiring at that point in time.

[Robz4000]

DK would've been curbstomped in 94 or 99 tbh.

[Sean Cagney]

Precisely, like Duncan's inability to scale a Battier.

That no longer stings sir. A year or go yes.

[Thebesteva]

They've stopped at six. The 00s were a completely different type of basketball, and the Spurs and Lakers were beasts the Bulls never had to face. The real question is that had Jordan stay on and the Bulls lost in the Finals to both the Spurs and the Lakers, would Duncan, Kobe or Shaq have a legit GOAT case?

Horace Grant sucked off MJ in an interview with Bill simmons for 40 mins but admitted he cant see Bulls beating the 01 Lakers. I can see these years Spurs beating them too. MJ never faced an epic team in his career

[IrisHockey]

He was crushed by the last great team he faced in his career, the 1990 Detroit Pistons..

[Infinite_limit]

The argument for 1999 is that it was a strike shortened season.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Bulls would've 4 peat, not sure if they can win more than that. Come on, an 8th Seed Knicks made the Finals that year.

[Infinite_limit]

Bulls would've 4 peat, not sure if they can win more than that. Come on, an 8th Seed Knicks made the Finals that year.
And Ewing went down during the Playoff Run

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That no longer stings sir. A year or go yes.

I'll just bet it doesn't.

[TampaDude]

If MJ didn't take those two years off to "play baseball"...EIGHT-PEAT, NIGGAZ!

[TampaDude]

The delay was catastrophic, D. It's why The Bag hasn't seen California yet.

The Bag was FedEx'd overnight to Los Angeles on 6/16/2014 and now resides there permanently...unless, of course, TOSB Kirby can win another 'ship...not holding my breath for that one, hoss. :lol

[ambchang]

First off, the rules changed BECAUSE Jordan retired as the league was desperate to find the next Jordan, they tweaked the rules to make life easier for the perimeter players, particularly penetrating guards and small forwards.

Second, the rule changes didn't really come into play until around 2002, so 1999 and 2000 were still played under the same rules Jordan played in during the two three peats.

Third, Jordan always struggled against shot blocking bigs. People gave Payton a lot of credit in the 96 series in stopping Jordan, but Kemp had a huge hand in that too. Kemp didn't have to guard Rodman, and was roaming to block Jordan, Jordan struggled.

Jordan shot 44.2% vs. Robinson for his career and around 47% vs. Hakeem.

Vernon Maxwell was a crazy dude and would have caused issues for Jordan in 94. Drexler would have made him work in 95. I am convinced Jordan would have lost to Hakeem at least once during those two years (95), and likely lost both times.

In 99, the twin towers will shut down any penetration, the issue would be Pippen though, that guy always comes through against the Spurs, and it really depends on how well Elie and Jaren Jackson can guard Jordan. Elliott can face up Pippen to an extent. But on the other hand, Duncan and/or Robinson would have destroyed the Bulls front court.

[tlongII]

Though those 2 in D.C.. aren't a mirage. They count, just like the 2 when he was barnstorming America.

True, but he took 3 seasons off before he played in D.C.. He would have won 1 or 2 more in Chicago had they kept the same core in the team.

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True, but he took 3 seasons off before he played in D.C.. He would have won 1 or 2 more in Chicago had they kept the same core in the team.

That "would have" shit is why The Bag is still in Texas.

[baseline bum]

He could've won 8 straight from 91-98, tbh.

No chance with Horeace Grant bolting and Bill Cartwright being done. Hakeem plus all his shooters would have taken them both times.

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The Bag was FedEx'd overnight to Los Angeles on 6/16/2014 and now resides there permanently...unless, of course, TOSB Kirby can win another 'ship...not holding my breath for that one, hoss. :lol

No, Tamps, check the time stamp on that FedEx. 6/16/2013. See, sweetheart? Then updated tracking will show you it was returned to sender at the New Mexico Border.

By God, next time you're up 5 at 28 seconds in a close out you'll finish it.

[baseline bum]

No, Tamps, check the time stamp on that FedEx. 6/16/2013. See, sweetheart? Then updated tracking will show you it was returned to sender at the New Mexico Border.

By God, next time you're up 5 at 28 seconds in a close out you'll finish it.

Shoe shiners should be seen and not heard

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Shoe shiners should be seen and not heard

The Bag stays in Texas.

[Malik Hairston]

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and OKC was 4-0 against San Antonio in the regular season

and Brooklyn was 4-0 against Miami in the regular season

You're disregarding the fatigue from 3 straight runs and that teams didn't "coast" and rest players in the 90s like the Spurs and Heat do today..

Also, owning a team for years in the regular season generally translates to the playoffs, the examples you listed aren't the norm..there are far more examples of regular season matchup dominance translating to the playoffs than the opposite..

[Jordanobili2320]

Precisely, like Duncan's inability to scale a Battier.

lol you are really reaching these days huh?

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lol you are really reaching these days huh?

- "Heidi, I'm being erased!!!"

- "Billy" - "Thinner"

[Infinite_limit]

http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac255/kegstermd/chi-best_bulls01520081013144820_zps66f4767f.jpg

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http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac255/kegstermd/chi-best_bulls01520081013144820_zps66f4767f.jpg

And they used to just treat Kukoc like dog shit, even Pippen. Jordan would hit Pippen, then Pippen would hit Toni.

[ezau]

No, Tamps, check the time stamp on that FedEx. 6/16/2013. See, sweetheart? Then updated tracking will show you it was returned to sender at the New Mexico Border.

By God, next time you're up 5 at 28 seconds in a close out you'll finish it.

Duncan>Kobe. Just checkin assholes, Cul.

[Sean Cagney]

I'll just bet it doesn't.

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Duncan>Kobe. Just checkin assholes, Cul.

Every fox smells his own hole.

[ezau]

Every fox smells his own hole.

As long as Duncan>Kobe. Let us proceed.