Afflalo traded to Nuggets

[The Batman]

per Woj

[The Batman]

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[baseline bum]

Remember in the pre-Woj days when you actually had to watch the draft to see what trades went down? :lol

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Heck yeh! Welcome back AAA. Should never have been sent packing for that dirty traitor.

[baseline bum]

Orlando now has opened up more than $35 million in capspace to go after James and Anthony together. What's really crazy is they'd also have about $17 million in capspace next year also even if they land both thanks to Harrington and Davis coming off the books. James, Anthony, Vucevic, Harris, max 2015 FA sounds pretty nasty.

[100%duncan]

Just noticed, it's "afflalo" not "affalo" wow... :lol

[Trill Clinton]

succs for chicago

[NASpurs]

Remember in the pre-Woj days when you actually had to watch the draft to see what trades went down? :lol

I get notified of his tweets on my phone. His tweets are a good complimentary to the fun that is NBA Draft. I shouldn't say complimentary though because that nigga breaks news before everyone else, so he's just as big as the Draft for the hardcore NBA fan. :lol

[Dverde]

West keeps getting tougher...I thought they ORL would get a better draft pick than that.

[Malik Hairston]

Afflalo is a little overrated, but he should fit well with the Nuggets..doesn't really change their outlook, though..

[Malice]

Love all these teams shuffling and creating chemistry issues...meanwhile....spurs sitting pretty. Good times.

[Richie]

Fournier and #56? Surely they could have got a lot more for him

[baseline bum]

So no one is impressed at the idea they could pull James and Anthony this year and then go get Kevin Love next season?

[Richie]

Seriously, the Nuggets should flip him to the Thunder for #21 and #29

[baseline bum]

If you're LeBron, certainly Anthony/Vucevic/Harris/Oladipo has to look at least as good as Wade/Bosh/Chalmers/Allen with Wade and Allen breaking down. Only downside is going from Philibeaner to Jacque Vaughn at coach. But then you get Kevin Love in 2015 also.

[Clipper Nation]

Fucking sucks for the Clippers, now we're left with three options: LeBron (least likely), Ariza (maybe), or another season of Barnes and Dudley laying bricks and getting torched (most likely) :bang

[Malik Hairston]

Fucking sucks for the Clippers, now we're left with three options: LeBron (least likely), Ariza (maybe), or another season of Barnes and Dudley laying bricks and getting torched (most likely) :bang

Clippers would be real scary if they had even 1 competent SF, tbh:lol..

[RsxPiimp]

So no one is impressed at the idea they could pull James and Anthony this year and then go get Kevin Love next season?

Orlando couldn't keep Shaq or Dwight for a reason. No one wants to play in Orlando.

[baseline bum]

Fucking sucks for the Clippers, now we're left with three options: LeBron (least likely), Ariza (maybe), or another season of Barnes and Dudley laying bricks and getting torched (most likely) :bang

I would never throw money at Ariza. Looks great in contract years, but shit, do you remember how awful he was in Houston after signing his previous deal?

[baseline bum]

Orlando couldn't keep Shaq or Dwight for a reason. No one wants to play in Orlando.

There is no LA Lakers to entice people out of Orlando now like with Shaq, and Howard is just a piece of shit. They also landed Prime Hill and Prime McGrady, and came pretty close to getting Prime Duncan. No state income tax too.

[Clipper Nation]

I would never throw money at Ariza. Looks great in contract years, but shit, do you remember how awful he was in Houston after signing his previous deal?
Ariza couldn't possibly be a bigger waste of space than Jared Dudley :lol

Another thing I'm wondering is why Denver even wanted Afflalo back.... it's not like they're an Afflalo away from contention, they'll still be treadmilling with him like they would be with Fournier....

[RsxPiimp]

There is no LA Lakers to entice people out of Orlando now like with Shaq, and Howard is just a piece of shit. They also landed Prime Hill and Prime McGrady, and came pretty close to getting Prime Duncan.

yah, true, lakers are not an ideal FA landing spot nowadays, but them Clippers are looking real tasty for premier free agents .

[Fpoonsie]

Just noticed, it's "afflalo" not "affalo" wow... :lol

rofl. Same.

[Thread]

Love all these teams shuffling and creating chemistry issues...meanwhile....spurs sitting pretty. Good times.

Yep, a fortnight ago you were trying to get Duncan's Diaw's, Manure's & Parker's visas vacated.

[Chinook]

So now they have ANOTHER wing on a big contract? They better make a trade soon to relieve that pressure, or they've gone supernova in their stupidity.

[spurraider21]

Chinook doesn't like when teams trade for players :lol

[Infinite_limit]

Oh. He was no longer on the Nuggets?

[SpursBills]

holy shit, orlando can sign lebron and carmelo and they still get to keep the #4 overall? roll out oladipo/exum/vucevic with lebron/carmelo. that's a shitload of young talent.

[Chinook]

Chinook doesn't like when teams trade for players :lol

Denver has $66 Million committed to the 2015 cap already. That's bonkers.

[Malik Hairston]

Denver has $66 Million committed to the 2015 cap already. That's bonkers.

For a team that probably won't make the playoffs and has virtually no upside:lol..

[Thread]

For a team that probably won't make the playoffs and has virtually no upside:lol..

There ya go---that's the ticket. Use that (66) instead of that other number you and your cohorts have been bandying about without so much as a break to catch your fucking breath.

Savvy?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Who else is going to Orlando? Denver don't have the cap space to absorb his contract.

[Fpoonsie]

Thread forgot to sign into his Jack Sparrow alt.

[~O~]

Ew...LeBron...Ew..Melo.

[Thread]

Thread (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320) forgot to sign into his Jack Sparrow alt.

Look at Poonsie, God you're handsome at Championship level. Knit shirt, Haggar slacks, white shoes from the '70s.

[Chinook]

Who else is going to Orlando? Denver don't have the cap space to absorb his contract.

They used Iggy's TE.

[hsxvvd]

Apparently they were offered Henderson and the 24th pick from the Hornets.

[cjw]

If you're LeBron, certainly Anthony/Vucevic/Harris/Oladipo has to look at least as good as Wade/Bosh/Chalmers/Allen with Wade and Allen breaking down. Only downside is going from Philibeaner to Jacque Vaughn at coach. But then you get Kevin Love in 2015 also.

Orlando would have $12.8mm committed to four guys (Oladipo, Harkless, Nicholson, Fournier) but can cut about $2-$3mm by not exercising the team option on any of the latter ones (or dealing them for a future pick). Cap holds on Vucevic and Harris would take them up to $19+ million (assuming 125% of prior year), so adding in Lebron and Melo at $18mm each, that would bring them to $55mm. No way to get Love added with only $10mm in cap space. If Melo and Lebron were to take less, there might be some flexibility but there would be roster holds on the other ~6 spots.

Would then have to sequence the new deals to Harris and Vucevic to happen after Love were signed, and some team could come in and screw up your plans as noted by Kevin Pelton on Lowe's podcast.

It's probably not going to happen, but not impossible...


On edit, I forgot to factor in the money for this year's first round picks. That cuts another $5 million+ from the money available to Love. So basically, it's Melo+Lebron, the picks and the team that they have today.

[DPG21920]

Afflalo is very tradeable and a decent player. He was so cheap, it didn't matter the ramifications of the deal, you have to do it IMO

[Killakobe81]

Afflalo is very tradeable and a decent player. He was so cheap, it didn't matter the ramifications of the deal, you have to do it IMO

I like him but thought he signed a sizable deal before he was traded ...No?

[baseline bum]

Orlando would have $12.8mm committed to four guys (Oladipo, Harkless, Nicholson, Fournier) but can cut about $2-$3mm by not exercising the team option on any of the latter ones (or dealing them for a future pick). Cap holds on Vucevic and Harris would take them up to $19+ million (assuming 125% of prior year), so adding in Lebron and Melo at $18mm each, that would bring them to $55mm. No way to get Love added with only $10mm in cap space. If Melo and Lebron were to take less, there might be some flexibility but there would be roster holds on the other ~6 spots.

Would then have to sequence the new deals to Harris and Vucevic to happen after Love were signed, and some team could come in and screw up your plans as noted by Kevin Pelton on Lowe's podcast.

It's probably not going to happen, but not impossible...


On edit, I forgot to factor in the money for this year's first round picks. That cuts another $5 million+ from the money available to Love. So basically, it's Melo+Lebron, the picks and the team that they have today.

Crap, I was thinking those were team options and not qualifying offers on Vucevic+Harris for 2015-16.

[DPG21920]

I like him but thought he signed a sizable deal before he was traded ...No?

He's got 2 years, 15M left which isn't too bad for his progression. It's a short contract, he's a good player (even if overrated some) and will be easily tradeable (more than their 2nd round pick and Fournier that they gave up). Like I said, regardless, he was just a good value IMO.

[Killakobe81]

He's got 2 years, 15M left which isn't too bad for his progression. It's a short contract, he's a good player (even if overrated some) and will be easily tradeable (more than their 2nd round pick and Fournier that they gave up). Like I said, regardless, he was just a good value IMO.

Not bad like him. Would rather Ariza have at that price, though.

[POPownsJackson]

Fucking sucks for the Clippers
and their fan

[NugzFan]

For a team that probably won't make the playoffs and has virtually no upside:lol..

no upside? wtf? :rolleyes