I wanted an 6'7 athletic black kid that jumps out of the gym and can play D

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Not Austin daye with passing ability.

Fuck you pop
Fuck you rc

[Kool Bob Love]

Not Austin daye with passing ability.

Fuck you pop
Fuck you rc

shut the fuck up.

[ducks]

nice language

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Fuck off koon bob

[Nathan89]

He's 40lbs heavier than Daye. Daye being slow and slim means he can't guard anybody. This dude is almost 6'9 meaning he can guard pfs.

[Baam]

You got a Diaw/Ginobili hybrid and you're asking for a 3&D player... The fuck is wrong with you... Glenn Robinson can't even shoot 3s...

[tholdren]

nerlens
Thaddeus
MCW
Embiid
KJ Mcdaniels


76ers

[tholdren]

You got a Diaw/Ginobili hybrid and you're asking for a 3&D player... The fuck is wrong with you... Glenn Robinson can't even shoot 3s...


LMFAO

[Floyd Pacquiao]

:lol Im kidding btw, I could care less about this guy or the draft :flag: im still high off the championship:flag:

[anakha]

Well, that's one thread started. One more and I hit my prediction.

[Beaverfuzz]

Kyle Anderson blows. Trade him out for Pendergraph, same crap and production.

[024]

He's probably not going to develop into much unless he's been somehow hiding his athleticism. But damn, it's a 30th pick. Spurs can't strike gold every pick.

[MeloHype]

Can't believe we didn't draft McDaniels

[DMX7]

It's so Spurs to draft a kid nicknamed "SLO-MO"

[SpursBills]

so basically, mcdaniels.

still, i'm not unhappy with this pick from a skills standpoint. a little worried about his personality - rumor has it that he refused to play any position other than point guard?

[cjw]

Not Austin daye with passing ability.

Fuck you pop
Fuck you rc

Kawhi Leonard?

[exstatic]

Kyle Anderson blows. Trade him out for Pendergraph, same crap and production.

You don't understand basketball AT ALL.

[Trill Clinton]

shut the fuck up.

[Kool Bob Love]

:lol Im kidding btw, I could care less about this guy or the draft :flag: im still high off the championship:flag:

Fuuuuuuu

:lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt:

Yeaaaah spurs 5-timers!!!!!!!
:flag:

[DMX7]

:lobt2:

[Beaverfuzz]

You don't understand basketball AT ALL.

Yes, yes I do. Scrubs.

[therealtruth]

This guys nickname is "Slow mo". I guess his ceiling is probably a Boris Diaw. But I think even BD was an athlete in his younger days.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Not Austin daye with passing ability.

Fuck you pop
Fuck you rc

One of Daye's greatest assets to his game is passing ability. Pop and RC put together a team that put on display some of the most beautiful basketball many pros had ever seen - as many stated as much. Yet, so many of you seem to want them to find a Westbrook at #30. It boggles the mind. That's not how we got here.

[littlecoyotecoin]

He's 40lbs heavier than Daye. Daye being slow and slim means he can't guard anybody. This dude is almost 6'9 meaning he can guard pfs.

Last report Daye was 216. Kyle is 230, albeit two inches shorter than Daye, maybe, but not 40 lbs. 14 is not 40.

[TheGoldStandard]

MCDaniels won't be in the league in 4 years.

[TheyCallMePro]

Gotta say.....Kyle Anderson didn't even work out for the Spurs. We only drafted him because he was the 'best available,' Not because he was the best fit. We needed a back-up SF who is athletic and can play D. Not SloMo....

[littlecoyotecoin]

This guys nickname is "Slow mo". I guess his ceiling is probably a Boris Diaw. But I think even BD was an athlete in his younger days.

Boris 0.2

[TheGreatYacht]

Not Austin daye with passing ability.

Fuck you pop
Fuck you rc

[cjw]

I don't understand what people want. 50% of the second round is a bunch of clones - 6'5" wing guys who will be no better than a guy you can sign off the street. The other half will never leave Europe.

[Obstructed_View]

And the Spurs fucked it up. Cory Jefferson is 6'9".

[Taking it to the Hole]

Not Austin daye with passing ability.

Fuck you pop
Fuck you rc

We all want lots of things. The Spurs know what they are doing more than you do. Anderson is not going to be the same player after playing for one year in our system. Everybody improves as a result of being on this team so I am not worried. I know he is going to get better especially when he has coaches and teammates willing to help him get better. Have a little faith man. We did just win a championship you know?

[mudyez]

Defensive problems --> We have Green/Leonard to make up for it.
Poor Athletism --> Spurs never build on athletism.

Great Passer --> Sounds like a "Spur" to me.
Good spotup shooter --> dito
Smart Player --> dito

Maybe a small ball 4 --> Spurs love versatility.

[wildcardX]

Well, Patric Young never got drafted. He's a 6'9" athletic kid that can jump and has good pretty good D. Not much offense and low FT% though.

[szkorhetz]

Diaw 2.0.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Gotta say.....Kyle Anderson didn't even work out for the Spurs. We only drafted him because he was the 'best available,' Not because he was the best fit. We needed a back-up SF who is athletic and can play D. Not SloMo....

We, are you a member of the Spurs. Spurs have the MLE and BAE to address needs via FA. This was about getting a player that fits the System. And they got one. I wanted the Spurs to try and get Saric, but surprisingly, Philly got him with a lottery pick even though he won't come over for 2 years. But they got a guy that is equivalent and actually a better passer.

I didn't think Anderson would be there at 30. I thought he would be gone by the 15-20 pick range.

[benefactor]

:cry fuck you RC and Pop
:cry you didn't draft a :monkey

[Ice009]

One of Daye's greatest assets to his game is passing ability. Pop and RC put together a team that put on display some of the most beautiful basketball many pros had ever seen - as many stated as much. Yet, so many of you seem to want them to find a Westbrook at #30. It boggles the mind. That's not how we got here.

Come on, passing isn't the whole reason why the Spurs won. Before they got Danny Green and Kawhi Leonard the team was in desperate need of some athleticism on the wing, so I am not sure I totally agree with all you guys that keep saying passing is the only reason they won the championship.

The two best players in the NBA are SFs that can also play PF. You need somewhat decent athletes to be able to defend these guys. I sure hope the Spurs aren't thinking of defending either of those guys with someone like Anderson, or just abandoning defense all together and trying to win with ball movement and offense.

The Spurs still need someone that can be a decent backup to Kawhi. I'd like that person to be somewhat athletic, they don't have to be Westbrook athletic, but if they're going to have any chance to defend against SFs like Lebron and Durant (even in spot minutes), I think they need to have some athletic ability to stand a chance. Hopefully they just want Anderson as a Diaw type of player, and they are looking to get Kawhi a decent backup through free agency.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

The two best players in the NBA are SFs that can also play PF. You need somewhat decent athletes to be able to defend these guys. I sure hope the Spurs aren't thinking of defending either of those guys with someone like Anderson, or just abandoning defense all together and trying to win with ball movement and offense.


I agree with this, but as the saying goes, "Sometimes a great defense, is a great offense." And in the Spurs case this is entirely true.

Like Spoelstra stated in Game 2 press conference, that the Heat would have to play 4 quarters of high intensity D to beat the Spurs. Wasn't happening. They attempted to, but that in turn greatly inhibited their play on the offensive end as they were gassed most of the game.

If not for Lebron and his 3 quarter heroics, the Heat would have lost by 30 the last 3 games. Not one Spurs player is an over the top athletic guy, well not at this point (Manu use to be). But almost every single one, except Ayres, has a high BB IQ. And that is how they beat the Heat and the Thunder.

[xmas1997]

I like this pick, he reminds me of Ice.
I don't know how you fix slow poor lateral foot speed though.
But if any team can do it, the Spurs can.

[PingPong]

Pacers are full of athletic black guys who play defense.

;)

[lebomb]

Yes, yes I do. Scrubs.

Actually no you dont. Do you know how many athletic players have washed out in the NBA??? Tons, sometimes fundamentals is what wins championships..........AKA Timmy. Also, look at Boris as well as Zak Randolph. You are telling me you you would take Zaks totally nonathletic ass right now if we could get him??

[lebomb]

Pacers are full of athletic black guys who play defense.

;)

Yeah, and look at how well the athletic Blazers, Warriors, and Clippers did. LOL right??

[Ice009]

Pacers are full of athletic black guys who play defense.

;)

Gee whiz. Why are people here acting like athleticism doesn't matter at all?

If you were to take Kawhi and Danny off the team, how far do you think the Spurs would have gotten with that ball movement? Manu is probably still the third most athletic guy on the team and he was huge in round 1.

[lebomb]

I would take Andersons passing ability over an athletic niggra any day. He fits completely into our offense. So please STFU haters that dont understand a dayum thing about winning it all like Spurs management.

[Blake]

Boris 0.2

:lol

[lebomb]

Gee whiz. Why are people here acting like athleticism doesn't matter at all?

If you were to take Kawhi and Danny off the team, how far do you think the Spurs would have gotten with that ball movement? Manu is probably still the third most athletic guy on the team and he was huge in round 1.

You prove our point............Spurs arguably the fewest athletic guys on an NBA team and we whooped that ass. You cant win on athleticism alone. You gotta have skills to niggra.

[Budkin]

:lol Im kidding btw, I could care less about this guy or the draft :flag: im still high off the championship:flag:

:toast Fuck yeah! Gonna be a while before I'm coming down from this one!

[PingPong]

Wishing for a Lebron clone at the 30th pick. So ST...

:lmao

[lebomb]

Wishing for a Lebron clone at the 30th pick. So ST...

:lmao

Or at least a talented athletic Harold Miner type!!!

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Gee whiz. Why are people here acting like athleticism doesn't matter at all?

If you were to take Kawhi and Danny off the team, how far do you think the Spurs would have gotten with that ball movement?

It does, nobodies negating that. In order to make it to the NBA, you have to have some athleticism. But I value High BB IQ over extreme athleticism. If they have both, that would be great. You will have DRob, Jordan, Hakeem, Lebron, etc. type of player; players that don't come around too often.

But I remember on this board when people wanted to replace Green b/c he couldn't dribble and was athletic enough to slash to the basket. But he has shown that having just enough athleticism, training hard and having a high BB IQ will allow to succeed in the NBA.

He was cut from the Cavs, that tells you all you need to know what 29 other teams around the league thought of Green.

[Ice009]

You prove our point............Spurs arguably the fewest athletic guys on an NBA team and we whooped that ass. You cant win on athleticism alone. You gotta have skills to niggra.

Didn't say you could win on athleticism alone. I also don't agree on the title of this thread in regards to drafting someone that is a super athlete without much skills or potential to improve. Personally, I'm just talking about getting players that are somewhat decent athletically that also have potential to get better in other aspects of their games. I'm just not sure that a guy that looks like a complete stiff in regards to athleticism can make it in the NBA or even on this team.

Even Boris Diaw and Tim Duncan were/are decent athletes. Marco for example, one of the least athletic players on the team was a huge liability in the playoffs on the defensive end of the court. He almost made an older Vince Carter look like a superstar again every time that he defended him. Spurs couldn't even play him much in the OKC series as they took advantage of him defensively when he was on the court.

You guys gotta think about defense a little bit. You can't get caught up in the offense and forget about defense. You don't win shit without decent defense.

[lebomb]

Didn't say you could win on athleticism alone. I also don't agree on the title of this thread in regards to drafting someone that is a super athlete without much skills or potential to improve. Personally, I'm just talking about getting players that are somewhat decent athletically that also have potential to get better in other aspects of their games. I'm just not sure that a guy that looks like a complete stiff in regards to athleticism can make it in the NBA or even on this team.

Even Boris Diaw and Tim Duncan were/are decent athletes. Marco for example, one of the least athletic players on the team was a huge liability in the playoffs on the defensive end of the court. He almost made an older Vince Carter look like a superstar again every time that he defended him. Spurs couldn't even play him much in the OKC series as they took advantage of him defensively when he was on the court.

You guys gotta think about defense a little bit. You can't get caught up in the offense and forget about defense. You don't win shit without decent defense.

True to a point, but all the athleticism can disappear as well with good ball movement and a high IQ of what it takes to win. Diaw made an athletic Bosh look like a JV second stringer.

[lebomb]

Shit............. Wade and Lebron can jump into the terrace level, and our unathletic team made them look ordinary. I doubt Boris can even dunk the ball. He was making back door cut layups on the super athletic Heat and Thunder. They couldnt stop that at all :lmao

[littlecoyotecoin]

Come on, passing isn't the whole reason why the Spurs won. Before they got Danny Green and Kawhi Leonard the team was in desperate need of some athleticism on the wing, so I am not sure I totally agree with all you guys that keep saying passing is the only reason they won the championship.

The two best players in the NBA are SFs that can also play PF. You need somewhat decent athletes to be able to defend these guys. I sure hope the Spurs aren't thinking of defending either of those guys with someone like Anderson, or just abandoning defense all together and trying to win with ball movement and offense.

The Spurs still need someone that can be a decent backup to Kawhi. I'd like that person to be somewhat athletic, they don't have to be Westbrook athletic, but if they're going to have any chance to defend against SFs like Lebron and Durant (even in spot minutes), I think they need to have some athletic ability to stand a chance. Hopefully they just want Anderson as a Diaw type of player, and they are looking to get Kawhi a decent backup through free agency.

I never said it was the whole reason, nor did anyone else. But, it is a large portion of the reason. The NBA has written a lot of defense out of the game, and Pop adapts. Defense was much improved, absolutely. But, being an elite passer and play-maker is rare, as is being an elite athlete. Ginobili will be almost impossible to replace in kind, for example. If you draft a player that can't pass, he will never be an elite play-maker. You don't learn that skill in the 5-10 years after being drafted, you hone it from the age of 5, are born with it, or both. And, while defense and shooting skills are not easily taught, I believe there is a higher probability in improving a player in those types of areas than in the areas of passing and play-making. Bruce Bowen, Danny Green, etc. This is why I like a player like Austin Daye, too. His father was a pro basketball player. While he may lack certain athletic abilities, the environment he grew up in has provided him some intangibles and immeasurables that Pop and staff might be able to exploit, while mitigating his weaknesses using the weight room, video room, help defense, etc. Maybe Anderson is the knell for Daye, though.

Athleticism is great, and you can't teach it. But, the likelihood that you find a smart athletic guy at number 30 isn't great. When they think they can get a smart, coachable athletic guy, they will. They got Kawhi. Livio is more athletic than some we've drafted. So, the last few draft picks have been about looking for athleticism. However, Livio is not regarded as an athletic freak. He was maybe just the best mix of athleticism and IQ at number 28. I usually don't get excited about our trades and off-season, But the last few years has been as much fun since Tony, Manu, and Tim.

Regarding the need for a backup for Kawhi, even if we don't get the prototypical SF for that, Pop has demonstrated that he has plenty of tools to spell Kawhi's minutes and survive, if not even thrive while doing so. The hole at SF is not as gaping as you seem to think it is, in my opinion.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Diaw 2.0.

Diaw 0.2

Don't insult Boris. As many have pointed out, Boris was an incredible athlete in his youth, and will still give Anderson a run for his money in that department.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Gee whiz. Why are people here acting like athleticism doesn't matter at all?

If you were to take Kawhi and Danny off the team, how far do you think the Spurs would have gotten with that ball movement? Manu is probably still the third most athletic guy on the team and he was huge in round 1.

But we already HAVE Danny and Kawhi. Point at our team and tell me which guys are play-makers under the age of 30?

And, Danny isn't the best example of athletic. He's not horrible, but he's far from elite. He is even quoted himself as being worried that his foot speed would prevent him from getting a spot on the roster back in the day.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Didn't say you could win on athleticism alone. I also don't agree on the title of this thread in regards to drafting someone that is a super athlete without much skills or potential to improve. Personally, I'm just talking about getting players that are somewhat decent athletically that also have potential to get better in other aspects of their games. I'm just not sure that a guy that looks like a complete stiff in regards to athleticism can make it in the NBA or even on this team.

Even Boris Diaw and Tim Duncan were/are decent athletes. Marco for example, one of the least athletic players on the team was a huge liability in the playoffs on the defensive end of the court. He almost made an older Vince Carter look like a superstar again every time that he defended him. Spurs couldn't even play him much in the OKC series as they took advantage of him defensively when he was on the court.

You guys gotta think about defense a little bit. You can't get caught up in the offense and forget about defense. You don't win shit without decent defense.

Do you think Pop is going to run Marco, Kyle, Austin, Ayres, and A point guard out there together? Have faith. Marco guarded Lebron in The Finals. We won. Convincingly.

[littlecoyotecoin]

True to a point, but all the athleticism can disappear as well with good ball movement and a high IQ of what it takes to win. Diaw made an athletic Bosh look like a JV second stringer.

Good points. "The ball moves faster than your feet." And, I love watching these leaping guys running out at my three point shooters when those three point shooters can dribble two or three times and wreak havoc with a dish.

[xmas1997]

Today all the sportscasters are saying the biggest steal of the draft was Kyle Anderson by the Spurs.
People will complain if hung with a new rope.

[tholdren]

Gee whiz. Why are people here acting like athleticism doesn't matter at all?

If you were to take Kawhi and Danny off the team, how far do you think the Spurs would have gotten with that ball movement? Manu is probably still the third most athletic guy on the team and he was huge in round 1.

Agreed, a lot of our success happens after getting into the lane and making an extra pass. you need athleticism to start the whole damn thing off

[florige]

:toast Fuck yeah! Gonna be a while before I'm coming down from this one!


Same here. SA could had drafted anybody good or bad. After that thrashing of Miami they can really do no wrong it my eyes.

[tholdren]

You prove our point............Spurs arguably the fewest athletic guys on an NBA team and we whooped that ass. You cant win on athleticism alone. You gotta have skills to niggra.
yet the most athletic player won MVP?

[Baam]

yet the most athletic player won MVP?

And the best passer was a very close second...

[littlecoyotecoin]

yet the most athletic player won MVP?

They had to give it to someone. Did you listen to all of the equivocations from the announcers, writers, voters? Tim could have gotten it. Or, Diaw. It wasn't all that clear cut for your most athletic player. He didn't have a great game 1&2, despite his athleticism.

[Beaverfuzz]

Actually no you dont. Do you know how many athletic players have washed out in the NBA??? Tons, sometimes fundamentals is what wins championships..........AKA Timmy. Also, look at Boris as well as Zak Randolph. You are telling me you you would take Zaks totally nonathletic ass right now if we could get him??

Z-Bo would still school Anderson at this stage in his career.

Would you take Chris Dudley or Lloyd Daniels?

[Beaverfuzz]

Yeah, and look at how well the athletic Blazers, Warriors, and Clippers did. LOL right??

All don't have a bench. Next question your highness.

[kobyz]

Classic, this shit is funny!

[TVI]

yet the most athletic player won MVP?
LeBron won MVP? :p:

[bob bass sucks]

we got bohner back

[Agloco]

Excellent thread, would read again.

[Spurs da champs]

Jamychal Green anyone?

[Uriel]

:cry fuck you RC and Pop
:cry you didn't draft a :monkey
I sincerely hope you're not this racist and bigoted in real life, because it is genuinely appalling to read on the internet—especially considering you're 2nd Team All-SpursTalk.

[jimbo]

I sincerely hope you're not this racist and bigoted in real life, because it is genuinely appalling to read on the internet—especially considering you're 2nd Team All-SpursTalk.

:lmao

[jimbo]

Well, Patric Young never got drafted. He's a 6'9" athletic kid that can jump and has good pretty good D. Not much offense and low FT% though.

He's huge, when I see him I just have to think "damn this nigga looks 30."

I have no idea how he didn't get drafted. Athletic guys usually do, especially ones with size...

[spursnatic]

I wanted CleAnthony Early not sure @ 30 though?

[TheGreatYacht]

Jamychal Green anyone?

[FireMicoHalili]

I sincerely hope you're not this racist and bigoted in real life, because it is genuinely appalling to read on the internet—especially considering you're 2nd Team All-SpursTalk.
Oh wow he has badges on an Internet forum?! So jealous

[therealtruth]

In general BBIQ can get you buy if you don't have enough athleticism at times. If all it took was athleticism there would be no white guys in the NBA.

[TheGreatYacht]

:cry fuck you RC and Pop
:cry you didn't draft a :monkey
But I'm the racist :lol

[spursfaninla]

I sincerely hope you're not this racist and bigoted in real life, because it is genuinely appalling to read on the internet—especially considering you're 2nd Team All-SpursTalk.

I don't think you get what he is saying. He is being sarcastic, and using monkey to mean "monkey-baller." Hopefully that does not require further explanation.

If you take the term monkey-baller as racist, which it may be, it is MUCH less so than 99% of the garbage going on in the NBA forum.

[spurraider21]

We should have traded up for shabazz Napier to lure lebron

[Uriel]

I don't think you get what he is saying. He is being sarcastic, and using monkey to mean "monkey-baller." Hopefully that does not require further explanation.

If you take the term monkey-baller as racist, which it may be, it is MUCH less so than 99% of the garbage going on in the NBA forum.
I do get what he was saying. I know that he was being sarcastic. I was appalled because he used the term "monkey-baller" which is, in fact, racist. And the fact that it may be less racist than the filth in the NBA forum is beside the point. It doesn't excuse that behaviour. If anything, being 2nd Team All-SpursTalk and posting in the Spurs forum (as opposed to the NBA forum) should force you to a higher standard.

I don't want the garbage from downstairs trickling in upstairs.