Wade has opted out

[Mal]

Tim Reynolds ‏@ByTimReynolds 9m

Dwyane Wade has opted out.

[ElNono]

wonder if Pat kidnapped his family...

[Ron Swanson]

Bosh should be opting out soon.

[Ginobili3]

Suspected he would, even with all that $

[spurraider21]

Last year Kobe opted out of ever winning again

[spurraider21]

This tells me LeBron is a lock to come back. Wade would never opt out unless he had full assurance Lebron was staying

[smaka]

Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard (https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard) 39s (https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/482972973255888896)
Source: Chris Bosh opts out of his contract . Seeking 5-year deal worth roughly $15-16 million per year

but it's Bro:lolssard so you never know..

[smaka]

but :lol at spot up 3 pt shooter demanding 15M per year :lmao

[Mal]

but :lol at spot up 3 pt shooter demanding 15M per year :lmao

Yeah. And it will get worse. He is past his prime.

[Ron Swanson]

What is Bucher reporting? :lol

[RD2191]

What is Bucher reporting?
:lol

[TheGoldStandard]

They'll each roughly make 15 mil a season, so we're looking at 75 over 5, with player options included.

[smaka]

Yeah. And it will get worse. He is past his prime.
He's worth half of that.

[DJR210]

I'm sure he opted out for a pay increase.

[Thread]

James is trapping himself, and he's nary other choice. He should do what Kerr did after arriving at MSG and that pit struck. Get back in the taxi:::"Take me back to the airport,,,now."

ESPN is on pins & needles & beside themselves at the same time. One false move and it'll be over before it really got started.

[spurraider21]

With the way Miami uses bosh offensively they may as well replace him with Channing Frye. Bosh has been criminally misused in miami

[TheGoldStandard]

Still not enough salary to round out a winning team especially with Bosh/Wade becoming shittier year by year.

[Thread]

With the way Miami uses bosh offensively they may as well replace him with Channing Frye. Bosh has been criminally misused in miami

He rose up once long enough to put you in a box. tee, hee.

[TheGoldStandard]

With the way Miami uses bosh offensively they may as well replace him with Channing Frye. Bosh has been criminally misused in miami

He loves it though, he's not about contact or working hard..

[Splits]

This tells me LeBron is a lock to come back. Wade would never opt out unless he had full assurance Lebron was staying

Yep. Although it would be hilarious if they sign Bosh, Bron, and Melo leaving Wade out to dry. #pray

[Thread]

At least James won't be coming here now. Put a stopper in that fucking bottle.

- "You never know. It could happen. Him and Bledsoe are great friends and represented by the same agent."

- "Why not, we're just as good as anybody else and he and Bledsoe know each other and respect one another."

- "We're attractive. We have all the pieces. And him and Bledsoe are close friends."

[Splits]

Funniest thing about the Heat big 3 all opting out of less-than-max deals to take even smaller chunks of the cap is how egregiously greedy and dickish it makes Kirby look. Fucker being exposed for the asshole he is.

[Thread]

Funniest thing about the Heat big 3 all opting out of less-than-max deals to take even smaller chunks of the cap is how egregiously greedy and dickish it makes Kirby look. Fucker being exposed for the asshole he is.

Boiled down:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 5

[Splits]

Boiled down:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 5

Go ahead and stick with that. I'll take:::

http://dimemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/USATSI_7956019.jpg

[Thread]

Go ahead and stick with that. I'll take:::

http://dimemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/USATSI_7956019.jpg

Can't deny that. He's Champ.

[Indazone]

Bosh, Bron, Wade, Haslem, opting out Battier Retires. It's the end of the Heatles

[Splits]

Woj reporting that Bron is going to insist on a max or near-max deal:


Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Udonis Haslem entering free agency in hope of keeping LeBron James in Miami


In an effort to make a future work together with LeBron James (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3704/), the Miami Heat (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/mia/)'s Dwyane Wade (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3708/),Chris Bosh (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3707/) and Udonis Haslem (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3765/) will opt out of their contracts and become free agents, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

While Bosh, Wade and Haslem could ultimately take less money with the early termination outs in their deals, James, the NBA's four-time MVP, is seeking a full maximum contract extension – or something close to it – to stay with Miami, sources told Yahoo Sports.

James is eligible to sign a five-year, $130 million extension with the Heat.

James' priority remains to find a way to make a future work with Miami, but a failure by the organization toward improving the Heat's roster to his satisfaction could send him aggressively into free agency, sources said.

Bleacher Report first reported the opt-outs.

Bosh, Wade and Haslem had Monday deadlines to make decisions on exercising the options.

James' teammates want to work with Miami president Pat Riley on re-signing with the team at lower financial figures that would allow management to retool with the roster with upgraded talent. Because of James' value as the best player in the NBA, the Heat players understand James' desire to seek maximum contract value, sources said.

Bosh has two years and $43 million left on his deal. Wade has two years, $42.5 million on his contract. Haslem has a $4.6 million player option for the 2014-15 season.

James will opt out of the final two years and $42.7 million on his contract.

[Trill Clinton]

With the way Miami uses bosh offensively they may as well replace him with Channing Frye. Bosh has been criminally misused in miami

bosh prefers to be a spot up 3 shooter, checc it:

chris bosh "i don't like to play in the paint...takes up too much energy"


Miami Heat (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/page/MIA/miami-heat) big man Chris Bosh (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/400537/chris-bosh) doesn't go into the post nearly as much as he used to. In fact, it's pretty rare that you see the Heat running post-up plays for Bosh. Much more of his attempts come from pick-and-roll plays or spot-up jumpers, despite him being the biggest guy on the team. There's a reason Bosh no longer posts up all that much too; it's to conserve energy for other parts of the game.

Bosh told the media after Saturday's shootaround that he doesn't "bang anymore," because he has to conserve energy and it's not a strength of his.

The only way Heat center Chris Bosh will see himself playing in the post again is by watching old highlight videos.

Bosh made it even clearer Saturday his days of living on the block are gone.

As in R.I.P to his post game.

"I don't bang anybody anymore," Bosh said. "It's a tired thing for me. It's not my strength and I understand that."

It doesn't help Bosh is playing at a heavier weight than when he entered the league in 2003.

"Just playing at an elite level, you play better defenders," Bosh said. "It gets tiring. What they ask us to do, to blitz the screen and roll, every single one, close out and get back. I wasn't this same weight. I was already 20-30 pounds lighter than anybody else. All that stuff just takes my energy."

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on...sh-on-playing-in-the-post-i-dont-bang-anymore (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24571850/heats-chris-bosh-on-playing-in-the-post-i-dont-bang-anymore)

[benefactor]

Make sense for James to ask for the max. The all equal Big 3 days are over. He's the best and should be paid as such.

[Kawhi]

Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard (https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard) 39s (https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/482972973255888896)
Source: Chris Bosh opts out of his contract . Seeking 5-year deal worth roughly $15-16 million per year

but it's Bro:lolssard so you never know.. 482980230785953792

[TIMMYtoZO]

:lol I told everyone that Wade would opt out. Lebron will stay in Miami, Wade/Bosh will take paycuts, and then they will reload with younger/versatile players. Miami is coming back stronger than ever. No 3-peat, but 3 titles in 4 years and beyond will still make this team a Dynasty.

[spurraider21]

bosh prefers to be a spot up 3 shooter, checc it:

chris bosh "i don't like to play in the paint...takes up too much energy"


Miami Heat (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/page/MIA/miami-heat) big man Chris Bosh (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/400537/chris-bosh) doesn't go into the post nearly as much as he used to. In fact, it's pretty rare that you see the Heat running post-up plays for Bosh. Much more of his attempts come from pick-and-roll plays or spot-up jumpers, despite him being the biggest guy on the team. There's a reason Bosh no longer posts up all that much too; it's to conserve energy for other parts of the game.

Bosh told the media after Saturday's shootaround that he doesn't "bang anymore," because he has to conserve energy and it's not a strength of his.

The only way Heat center Chris Bosh will see himself playing in the post again is by watching old highlight videos.

Bosh made it even clearer Saturday his days of living on the block are gone.

As in R.I.P to his post game.

"I don't bang anybody anymore," Bosh said. "It's a tired thing for me. It's not my strength and I understand that."

It doesn't help Bosh is playing at a heavier weight than when he entered the league in 2003.

"Just playing at an elite level, you play better defenders," Bosh said. "It gets tiring. What they ask us to do, to blitz the screen and roll, every single one, close out and get back. I wasn't this same weight. I was already 20-30 pounds lighter than anybody else. All that stuff just takes my energy."

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on...sh-on-playing-in-the-post-i-dont-bang-anymore (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24571850/heats-chris-bosh-on-playing-in-the-post-i-dont-bang-anymore)
That's all good and well. I never said he should be a back to the basket banger... It's not black and white, being a banger and merely a spot up shooter. Look at Duncan's game today. Look at Aldridge.

[Kawhi]

:lol I told everyone that Wade would opt out. Lebron will stay in Miami, Wade/Bosh will take paycuts, and then they will reload with younger/versatile players. Miami is coming back stronger than ever. No 3-peat, but 3 titles in 4 years and beyond will still make this team a Dynasty.http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/WiUMBX3zUd4/0.jpg

[Aztecfan03]

So instead of going after Melo, Bron wants to use their paycuts to make more money for himself?

[jeebus]

Bosh can still play. He he should go somewhere where he can get paid and still win. Better than opting out, signing for less in Miami, and getting beat beat in the 2nd round next season.

[jeebus]

So instead of going after Melo, Bron wants to use their paycuts to make more money for himself?
Lebron Bryant.

[baseline bum]

Arison fucked it all up by salary dumping Miller and pissing LeBron off. I wonder how much less Wade and Bosh are prepared to take? Because James on a $20 million max salary, Birdman on his $1.45 million, Cole on his $2.15 million, Napier on his $1.03 million, and 8 roster spots under 12 = $3.78 million only leaves $34.8 million for Bosh, Wade, and whoever else they want to sign.

[RD2191]

:lol I told everyone that Wade would opt out. Lebron will stay in Miami, Wade/Bosh will take paycuts, and then they will reload with younger/versatile players. Miami is coming back stronger than ever. No 3-peat, but 3 titles in 4 years and beyond will still make this team a Dynasty.
Gonna have to pull a chumpdumper here, which ones?

[ChumpDumper]

Bosh is right, if overly candid. It's not his fault the Heat can't field a decent traditional lineup.

Riles and Arison have their work cut out for them this summer. A ton of critical negotiations happening at once. Of course, the big three could have it all planned out like before and make it easy on them -- but each player's deal could be made contingent on the others, which would be amazing and terrifying to the FO.

[benefactor]

Watch Bosh change his mind and blow Miami all to shit.:lol

[Thread]

At least Media doesn't get what they wanted:::another spectacle as James weighed where he'd end up.

Any time they get denied is a good time.

[Aztecfan03]

Arison fucked it all up by salary dumping Miller and pissing LeBron off. I wonder how much less Wade and Bosh are prepared to take? Because James on a $20 million max salary, Birdman on his $1.45 million, Cole on his $2.15 million, Napier on his $1.03 million, and 8 roster spots under 12 = $3.78 million only leaves $34.8 million for Bosh, Wade, and whoever else they want to sign.

Something said they can offer LeBron 5yr $130 mil max which 26 mil per year.

[spurraider21]

If bosh opts in it means wade gave up all that money for nothing :lol. I'm sure the big 3 talked it out and know exactly what's up otherwise wade never opts out

[TIMMYtoZO]

:lol People are getting scared and shitting bricks. Miami is not breaking up, and everyone is stunned! :lmao

[baseline bum]

What the fuck are Bosh & Wade thinking if LeBron wants max? Unless they want out. If James takes max no way they can afford to bring both Bosh and Wade back even on serious paycuts. Unless Bosh and Wade are willing to take 50% paycuts and play for $10 million how does Miami improve itself?

[spurraider21]

:lol People are getting scared and shitting bricks. Miami is not breaking up, and everyone is stunned! :lmao
Nobody is scared of the team we wrecked in the finals.


:lol biggest point differential in finals history

[baseline bum]

This opting out could leave them with a 2011 roster, except with Wade long past his prime.

[Thread]

This opting out could leave them with a 2011 roster, except with Wade long past his prime.

...& James with the squirts.

[RD2191]

I don't hate the Heat. Just their garbage bandwagon fans.

[D-Wade]

Would you look at that -- Wade still more unselfish than Kobe, even with the flopping and whining that has emerged in his game as of late

[baseline bum]

Something said they can offer LeBron 5yr $130 mil max which 26 mil per year.

$127 million over 5 years, starting at $22.12 million (35% of the cap) with 7.5% raises (non-compounded) is the maximum he can make. I forgot James is now a 35% max free agent and not a 30% one.

[Mal]

Bosh and Wade should take half of James money.

[spurraider21]

Would you look at that -- Wade still more unselfish than Kobe, even with the flopping and whining that has emerged in his game as of late
:lmao

[Thread]

Would you look at that -- Wade still more unselfish than Kobe, even with the flopping and whining that has emerged in his game as of late

Wade: 3

James: 2

He ain't no fool. As long as James is next to him, he can't get ahead of him. Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer.

[baseline bum]

^ LOL, no shit. Nigga earned the D-Whistle nickname in his 3rd year in the league. :lol

[Nathan89]

Woj reporting that Bron is going to insist on a max or near-max deal:

After Kawhi ate his lunch.:lmao

[Thread]

I don't hate the Heat. Just their garbage bandwagon fans.

What'd you expect---you beat 'em. It was over. Them standing outside bangin' on the door like Fred Flintstone wasn't their fault. It was your fault.

[spurraider21]

Wade: 3

James: 2

He ain't no fool. As long as James is next to him, he can't get ahead of him. Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer.
Without James he's light 2

[Thread]

After Kawhi ate his lunch.:lmao

He cooked his goose as well.

[Thread]

Without James he's light 2

& as long as James is holding his hand he'll be light 1.

"I got time. I can turn loose in another 3 years and go get 2 more whilst he's retired."

Grim business if it founders & sinks.

[baseline bum]

Wow, Miami is really fucked if James wants $22 million starting. With four roster spots taken (James/Anderson/Cole/Napier) and 8 cap holds, they're looking at $32.7 million to fill out their roster. So their options are:

(1) bringing the same team back minus Battier and adding a couple of minimum salary guys
(2) letting Bosh or Wade walk, renouncing Chalmers, Lewis, Allen, Haslem, and getting 2 or 3 quality non-star players

[jeebus]

:lol People are getting scared and shitting bricks. Miami is not breaking up, and everyone is stunned! :lmao
son don't turn into caprisun man

[baseline bum]

Damn, are they seriously breaking up? I would have never believed it even after 5, but I have no reason to ever doubt Woj and they're in some trouble if James isn't on the paycut bandwagon too.

[RD2191]

I doubt they break up. We're overreacting. They have a cakewalk to the ECF even with the same roster this upcoming season.

[Thread]

Damn, are they seriously breaking up? I would have never believed it even after 5

& 6.

tee, hee.

[ducks]

espn is saying they are shopping cole

[ducks]

if james wants max to stay with the heat is he more selfish then kobe

[Thread]

I doubt they break up. We're overreacting. They have a cakewalk to the ECF even with the same roster this upcoming season.

That was before you stripped 'em down butt-naked across two Junes. They're exposed, nude, au natural. It's all over the but the screamin' from ESPN in CT..

[benefactor]

Damn, are they seriously breaking up? I would have never believed it even after 5, but I have no reason to ever doubt Woj and they're in some trouble if James isn't on the paycut bandwagon too.
One has to wonder if James was always leaving...and all of this is just Decision II attention seeking.

[Thread]

if james wants max to stay with the heat is he more selfish then kobe

Kobe: 5

James: 2

[Mal]

if james wants max to stay with the heat is he more selfish then kobe

Oh no. James is worth max deal. Kobe isnt

[RD2191]

46 guests? I see you Chris Broussard and Ric Bucher.

[RD2191]

That was before you stripped 'em down butt-naked across two Junes. They're exposed, nude, au natural. It's all over the but the screamin' from ESPN in CT..
:lol

[Thread]

Oh no. James is worth max deal. Kobe isnt

Kobe: 5

James: 2

[spurraider21]

Damn, are they seriously breaking up? I would have never believed it even after 5, but I have no reason to ever doubt Woj and they're in some trouble if James isn't on the paycut bandwagon too.
Wade doesn't opt out If they're breaking up tbh. Doesn't add up

[Thread]

Wade doesn't opt out I they're breaking up tbh. Doesn't add up

How bout the 48.5?

[Ron Swanson]

46 guests? I see you Chris Broussard and Ric Bucher.

:lol

[hsxvvd]

Wade doesn't opt out If they're breaking up tbh. Doesn't add up

I agree but why wouldn't Bosh have announced he was doing the same with Wade and Haslem they all share the same agent.

[jeebus]

espn is saying they are shopping cole
a couple years ago, heatfan couldn't stop jizzing over that piece of shit

[spurraider21]

How bout the 48.5?
What about it? I have no problems with players chasing money at all, but it's silly to say all he wants to do is win while taking that much. If wade didn't care for competing and keeping James, he would take his 22 easily and eat like a fat cat.

[baseline bum]

& 6.

tee, hee.

That's 5 talking.

[baseline bum]

Wade doesn't opt out If they're breaking up tbh. Doesn't add up

Maybe Wade's desperate to keep him. He doeesn't have any more 2010 seasons left.

[ChumpDumper]

I know everyone feels like throwing dirt on Wade, but is he really done?

I mean he still averaged about 18 ppg on 50% shooting in the playoffs. In fact, all the big three performed quite well on the whole. If nothing else, this core is the formula to getting into the finals from the east -- what is that worth to an owner?

[baseline bum]

So would Dallas fan cheer Wade coming?

[Robz4000]

If Bosh has opted out as well, I think it's safe to say they'll all be resigning with the Heat for less (sans Lebron). Not sure what they'll be able to reload with in that case however; Napier doesn't move the needle.

[Mal]

483000201817636865

[Ron Swanson]

Bosh is gonna fuck it all up for Miami.

[baseline bum]

I know everyone feels like throwing dirt on Wade, but is he really done?

I mean he still averaged about 18 ppg on 50% shooting in the playoffs. In fact, all the big three performed quite well on the whole. If nothing else, this core is the formula to getting into the finals from the east -- what is that worth to an owner?

He missed 28 games for rest. It seems like he's breaking down.

[ChumpDumper]

I can't see Bosh and Wade's signing anywhere else for more money, but if they take less that is a shitload of money to leave on the table.

[Robz4000]

I know everyone feels like throwing dirt on Wade, but is he really done?

I mean he still averaged about 18 ppg on 50% shooting in the playoffs. In fact, all the big three performed quite well on the whole. If nothing else, this core is the formula to getting into the finals from the east -- what is that worth to an owner?

Offensively he was solid to great up until the Finals, but his defense has fallen off a cliff. Doesn't help his style of play clashes with the modern NBA. He could still be a great contributor as a third option/6th man but I'm not sure he can have a positive impact on the floor with Lebron again.

[ducks]

I know everyone feels like throwing dirt on Wade, but is he really done?

I mean he still averaged about 18 ppg on 50% shooting in the playoffs. In fact, all the big three performed quite well on the whole. If nothing else, this core is the formula to getting into the finals from the east -- what is that worth to an owner?
wade did not play 22 games in regular season

[D-Wade]

Without James he's light 2

And if James showed up even just a little in 2011, Wade would have 2FMVPs and the Heat would have wrapped up their 3 peat last year.

[ducks]

I think heat should bring wade off the bench help bench production and use bosh and james more
forget iso for wade

[D-Wade]

I know everyone feels like throwing dirt on Wade, but is he really done?

I mean he still averaged about 18 ppg on 50% shooting in the playoffs. In fact, all the big three performed quite well on the whole. If nothing else, this core is the formula to getting into the finals from the east -- what is that worth to an owner?

Gino looked done last year and look now.

In the moment, I was saying Wade should hang it all up but who knows. He deserves the benefit of the doubt for another year.

[ChumpDumper]

wade did not play 22 games in regular seasonNeither did Manu in 12-13.

I agree he's not a $20 million man, and he'll need a Danny/Marco supporting cast to preserve his effectiveness -- but it doesn't seem impossible. Again, the Heat is on Riley to actually do something.

[RsxPiimp]

Riley would be fucking stupid to offer Bosh more than $12 mil/yr, and thats being generous.

[Mal]

Correct me if wrong, but Miami cant be in tax range next year, cause there are heavy penalties for being in tax for too long.

[ducks]

manu is not a starter wade is
wade needs to be off the bench and embrace being a 6 man and try to win that award

[ducks]

Correct me if wrong, but Miami cant be in tax range next year, cause there are heavy penalties for being in tax for too long.

owner worth 6.5 BILLION

[baseline bum]

And if James showed up even just a little in 2011, Wade would have 2FMVPs and the Heat would have wrapped up their 3 peat last year.

I doubt it with Bibby, Joel Anthony, and Juwan Howard playing important minutes of that Finals. And that Dallas team was fierce. Not sure why no Miami fan can seem to give them credit.

[Thread]

What about it? I have no problems with players chasing money at all, but it's silly to say all he wants to do is win while taking that much. If wade didn't care for competing and keeping James, he would take his 22 easily and eat like a fat cat.

I was just peeking up your kimono, trying to get a rise out of ya. Relax. It'd been like 6 hours since you 48.5'ed me. I was wondering standing at the bus stop just where the fuck it was.

[Mal]

owner worth 6.5 BILLION

I dont know the details, but it may not be about money.

[m>s]

now they should fuck him over and not resign him and get melo instead..dudes AIDS is finally starting to impact his game

[Thread]

owner worth 6.5 BILLION

It's doesn't matter. 2-1 was vulgar in a business model. 8-1 is untenable.

[Mal]

owner worth 6.5 BILLION

It`s about money. See question 21
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

[TIMMYtoZO]

And if James showed up even just a little in 2011, Wade would have 2FMVPs and the Heat would have wrapped up their 3 peat last year.

:lol No. Dallas was just flat out better. Carlisle OWNED Spoelstra and Dallas had a better team. Once the Mavs were able to knock down their open shots, the series was pretty much over. I can't even call game 2 a fluke anymore because that Mavs team was resilient was hell. They never fucking quit. The Mavs defense was perfectly built to limit Miami and Lebron. James didn't choke. The Mavs D just had the upper hand, tbh. Credit the genius Carlisle on that one.

[spurraider21]

owner worth 6.5 BILLION
And yet he amnestied mike miller to save money

[baseline bum]

Neither did Manu in 12-13.

I agree he's not a $20 million man, and he'll need a Danny/Marco supporting cast to preserve his effectiveness -- but it doesn't seem impossible. Again, the Heat is on Riley to actually do something.

That's going to be pretty damn hard to build a team where they could afford to play Wade only 23 minutes a night. He only played 33 a night this season.

[TIMMYtoZO]

I doubt it with Bibby, Joel Anthony, and Juwan Howard playing important minutes of that Finals. And that Dallas team was fierce. Not sure why no Miami fan can seem to give them credit.

I really don't get why people discredit that Mavs squad. They had a damn good team and a true elite coach. Hell even I can admit that Miami lucked out that Dallas broke up the following season. Miami could have gone a different path if Cuban decided to keep the gang together, tbh.

[spurraider21]

:lol James didn't choke

[TIMMYtoZO]

:lol James didn't choke

The Mavs D got in his head. Carlisle knew how limit him mentally and physically. He had the personnel to do it. This is how amazing of a coach Carlisle is. Give the guy a roster of solid talent, and he will do something with it. He is right there with Pop as the best coach in the league.

[ChumpDumper]

That's going to be pretty damn hard to build a team where they could afford to play Wade only 23 minutes a night. He only played 33 a night this season.Again, that's on Riley. He's got to find a way to keep Spoelstra from overrelying on the big three. He actually has to work now.

It will be amazing if Bosh and Wade are opting out to take less and facilitate this.

[spurraider21]

The Mavs D got in his head.
precisely

[DMC]

Bosh too.. so 50+ mil cap space.

[ducks]

heat are going to have to have others score then james and bosh
heat need wade to produce in 2 and late third forth and get bench to help
james is effectivate he just can not do it all

[ElNono]

Props to Wade, tbh... he knows he'll have to take a paycut in the immediate future... He's the franchise in Miami, he isn't going anywhere else, IMO

[baseline bum]

Props to Wade, tbh... he knows he'll have to take a paycut in the immediate future... He's the franchise in Miami, he isn't going anywhere else, IMO

How big a pay cut are you thinking?

[DMC]

All three guys for 10 million each and they acquire Anthony.

[ElNono]

How big a pay cut are you thinking?

Maybe a longer deal, 4 years-$60m... He would still be overpaid, but it's less of a hit for Miami

[ElNono]

Finals Wade is worth Gino money, IMO... $7m/year... but like I said, he's the franchise, and younger, so $12m-$15m would work and give Miami some room to maneuver...

[ChumpDumper]

I can see Bosh and Wade stretching out the $40+ million they were owed over four years instead of two or something, but I'm to lazy to do any calculations anymore.

[ducks]

tim reynolds heat beat writer said bosh has not made up his mind



Again, Bosh has not decided. Still has two days. There was a miscommunication in a text to me earlier. Not sure on the other reports.
3:33pm - 28 Jun 14aztime eastern time is 3 hours ahead of az



epsn just said hasleem wants 3 year deal with 9 million

[HemisfairArena]

No way Miami gives Wade 15 mil/yr. This isn't Fredo and Kupchak were talking about giving 48.5 to a broken down sidekick. Riley isn't stupid,,,he'll bring up Duncan as an example to Wade and try to get him to accept 10 mil/yr range.

[ducks]

espn is saying 50-60 million for wade .. speculation though

[Franklin]

Wade either convinces the Great Satan to stay or follows him wherever he goes (like those Heat "fans").

[Koolaid_Man]

"I don't bang anybody anymore," Bosh said. "It's a tired thing for me. It's not my strength and I understand that."


"Just playing at an elite level, you play better defenders," Bosh said. "It gets tiring. What they ask us to do, to blitz the screen and roll, every single one, close out and get back. I wasn't this same weight. I was already 20-30 pounds lighter than anybody else. All that stuff just takes my energy."

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on...sh-on-playing-in-the-post-i-dont-bang-anymore (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24571850/heats-chris-bosh-on-playing-in-the-post-i-dont-bang-anymore)



You my nigga but come on....when has this nigga ever banged...he's a catcher not a pitcher :lmao

[ducks]

did bosh really say that
you get 300 k or more a game to bang idiot

[Koolaid_Man]

did bosh really say that
you get 300 k or more a game to bang idiot

he's an honest gay dude..if the man don't bang he don't bang....:lol stop trynna force a square peg into a round hole

[~O~]

I can't see them making the finals without their core. I can't even see them winning the finals if the Spurs are there. I don't see it. If any one of those three were to leave, there going to go down a year. If Melo comes, they'll be down a year.

As of right now, the Heat only have Bosh.

The thing I've realized about these star based teams is that they can't be perennially sustain and forced to rebuild because the rest of the core played "roles".

[Malik Hairston]

A lot of over-analyzing, there are still so many variables before we can judge Miami's future, tbh:lol..

[spurraider21]

A lot of over-analyzing, there are still so many variables before we can judge Miami's future, tbh:lol..
well, if wade/bosh sign for around 15 and lebron gets something near the max, it removes a lot of variables tbh, they'll have no room to add significant pieces

[~O~]

?@sraider, that exactly is the huge factor....cap room. Im assuming the Heat are in pursuit of the finals again. I don't see a championship happening again with the Spurs. They'll be the same team..only older. They'll have to yet again endure the regular season with a hobbled Wade and poltergeists.


The Pacers have been quiet. Everyone has lost their belief in them for obvious reasons. They still have a very stacked team with talent. We'll see what happens mid way through the season with them. I'm mentioning them because they're the only team that can challenge the Heat. Its too bad they're bitch made.

[100%duncan]

Lol TIMMYtoZO why would be afraid pf the same team we raped in the finals :lol idiot

[baseline bum]

I'll take Woj's word that James wants max, which is $22 million. Let's try to come up with a really cap friendly scenario: say Wade and Bosh sign for $13 million each and Haslem takes $2M (they're not renouncing him and making him play for minimum after he opted out). Then Miami's cap situation looks like

1. James: $22.1M
2. Wade: $13.0M
3. Bosh: $13.0M
4. Cole: $2.15M
5. Haslem: $2.0M
6. Anderson: $1.45M
7. Napier: $1.03M
8. Open roster spot: $0.473M
9. Open roster spot: $0.473M
10. Open roster spot: $0.473M
11. Open roster spot: $0.473M
12. Open roster spot: $0.473M

TOTAL: $57.1M
CAPSPACE: $6.10M

Let's assume they renounce Rashard Lewis and then sign him for league minimum after they're out of capspace. He won't have any better options. So do they renounce Allen and see if they can get MVPau with that $6.1M? Or maybe give Allen $2M and use the other $4.1M to get a defensive stopper like Avery Bradley? Maybe split their capspace between Ray Ray and Marion? They surely renounce Chalmers, right?

[HemisfairArena]

I'll take Woj's word that James wants max, which is $22 million. Let's try to come up with a really cap friendly scenario: say Wade and Bosh sign for $13 million each and Haslem takes $2M (they're not renouncing him and making him play for minimum after he opted out). Then Miami's cap situation looks like

1. James: $22.1M
2. Wade: $13.0M
3. Bosh: $13.0M
4. Cole: $2.15M
5. Haslem: $2.0M
6. Anderson: $1.45M
7. Napier: $1.03M
8. Open roster spot: $0.473M
9. Open roster spot: $0.473M
10. Open roster spot: $0.473M
11. Open roster spot: $0.473M
12. Open roster spot: $0.473M

TOTAL: $57.1M
CAPSPACE: $6.10M

Let's assume they renounce Rashard Lewis and then sign him for league minimum after they're out of capspace. He won't have any better options. So do they renounce Allen and see if they can get MVPau with that $6.1M? Or maybe give Allen $2M and use the other $4.1M to get a defensive stopper like Avery Bradley? Maybe split their capspace between Ray Ray and Marion? They surely renounce Chalmers, right?

This is why Wade wont get more than 10 mil/yr,,,,Riley would let him walk because he knows no team will pay him more than 10 mil. Riley knows its LeBron or bust.

[da_suns_fan]

At least James won't be coming here now. Put a stopper in that fucking bottle.

- "You never know. It could happen. Him and Bledsoe are great friends and represented by the same agent."

- "Why not, we're just as good as anybody else and he and Bledsoe know each other and respect one another."

- "We're attractive. We have all the pieces. And him and Bledsoe are close friends."

What?!!! You mean Lebron doesnt want to play for Robert "Deep Pockets" Sarver?

[jag]

Can't deny that. He's Champ.

No one, and I mean no one, gets on their hands and knees and shines quite as nicely as you.

[ChumpDumper]

This is why Wade wont get more than 10 mil/yr,,,,Riley would let him walk because he knows no team will pay him more than 10 mil. Riley knows its LeBron or bust.What if Lebron's re-signing is contingent on keeping Wade?

I'm of the mind Wade and Bosh are pulling a Richard Jefferson and will agree to the money they would have gotten in their original deals over a longer period of time. So deals starting at about $10 million make sense. If bum's numbers are right, that could get them closer to another $10 million slot.

[Killakobe81]

Would you look at that -- Wade still more unselfish than Kobe, even with the flopping and whining that has emerged in his game as of late
He should take less dude is a tosb with stds

[HemisfairArena]

What if Lebron's re-signing is contingent on keeping Wade?

I'm of the mind Wade and Bosh are pulling a Richard Jefferson and will agree to the money they would have gotten in their original deals over a longer period of time. So deals starting at about $10 million make sense. If bum's numbers are right, that could get them closer to another $10 million slot.

I agree 10 mil is the key but some think Wade will make 13-15 mil,,,,I don't see it. And I think LeBron is thinking youth infusion(draft) and 'Melo at this point. I think he is ready to leave Wade if Wade gets difficult,,,which Wade knows a gravy train when he sees it and said Yes Sir, LeBron,,,I'll opt out,,,please stay.

[ChumpDumper]

I wouldn't be surprised if it all turns out to be largely scripted between the players and management.

[baseline bum]

What if Lebron's re-signing is contingent on keeping Wade?

I'm of the mind Wade and Bosh are pulling a Richard Jefferson and will agree to the money they would have gotten in their original deals over a longer period of time. So deals starting at about $10 million make sense. If bum's numbers are right, that could get them closer to another $10 million slot.

If Wade can swallow his pride I could see him doing that, as he wouldn't get much more on the market. But Bosh? He would easily pull more than $10 million. I mean Hibbert makes $15 million next year.

[ChumpDumper]

If Wade can swallow his pride I could see him doing that, as he wouldn't get much more on the market. But Bosh? He would easily pull more than $10 million. I mean Hibbert makes $15 million next year.it's close with Bosh, but he could take the 13 and still leave some good cap space. I don't know the longest deal Bosh could sign -- is a five year deal possible?

Doesn't seem like it opens up Melo money, but could be pretty significant.

[Mal]

it's close with Bosh, but he could take the 13 and still leave some good cap space. I don't know the longest deal Bosh could sign -- is a five year deal possible?

Doesn't seem like it opens up Melo money, but could be pretty significant.

They dont need Melo. They need depth. LeBron cant play 40 minutes for 90+ games. Wade cant play 70 games.

And I dont think friendship will survive Wade earning half James` money, and less then Bosh, who nothing more than streach four.

[Thread]

No one, and I mean no one, gets on their hands and knees and shines quite as nicely as you.

It's easy. Nothing better than truth. A rare clarity.

[Malik Hairston]

I wouldn't be surprised if it all turns out to be largely scripted between the players and management.

Most likely scenario, tbh..

[Splits]

HANG TIME NEW JERSEY – LeBron James and Dwyane Wade have informed the Miami Heat that they will exercise the early termination options on their contracts, ending what were six-years deals after four seasons.Chris Bosh has yet to inform the Heat about his decision, but it is expected that he will exercise his early termination option as well. Udonis Haslem, meanwhile, has declined his $4.3 million player option.

Nine days ago, Pat Riley made it clear that he’d like his three All-Stars to take less money (http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2014/06/19/riley-puts-heat-on-lebron-big-3-to-stay-the-course-and-not-run/) to help him retool the roster. On Tuesday, James put added pressure on Bosh and Wade by opting out of his deal (http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2014/06/24/james-opt-out-is-first-step-in-getting-heat-some-more-help/). Now, it looks like things are falling into place and Riley will have the opportunity to upgrade the other two positions in his starting lineup.

Rumored targets for the Heat include point guard Kyle Lowry, forward Trevor Ariza and center Marcin Gortat. All have tools (ball-handling, defense, size) that would certainly help Miami. The idea of addingCarmelo Anthony seems far-fetched, but it all depends on how much money he’s willing to sacrifice, as well as how much Miami’s Big Three are willing to sacrifice.

Yahoo’s Adrian Wojnarowski reports that James is seeking a max contract (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/dwyane-wade--chris-bosh--udonis-haslem-entering-free-agency-in-hope-of-keeping-lebron-james-in-miami-173919540.html), which would be a five-year deal worth about $120 million. So it would apparently be Bosh and Wade who would have to take pay cuts.

ESPN’s Chris Broussard tweeted that Bosh is seeking a new five-year deal worth $15-16 million per year (https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/482972973255888896). Those two reports (as well as the assumption that Wade isn’t going to take less than Bosh) gives us the framework of the Heat’s salary math, with an expected salary cap of $63.2 million …

Heat salary math



Player
2014-15
Notes


1
James, LeBron
$20,020,875
Cap hold


2
Bosh, Chris
$13,043,478
Reduced salary (5 yrs/$75M)


3
Wade, Dwyane
$13,043,478
Reduced salary (5 yrs/$75M)


4
Cole, Norris
$2,038,206
Under contract


5
Andersen, Chris
$915,243
Cap hold


6
Napier, Shabazz
$1,032,200
Cap hold


7-11
Cap hold x 5
$2,536,680
Cap hold



TOTAL
$52,630,161




Salary cap
$63,200,000




Left for free agent
$10,569,839
4-year deal for $45.1 million



1. James’ max contract would start at about $20.8 million. Since his cap hold (1.05 x last year’s salary) is a little less than that, the Heat would use that number until the other pieces are signed. Then they can go over the salary cap to re-sign James.

2 and 3. If Bosh and Wade both accept five-year deals worth $75 million ($15 million per year), those contracts would have starting salaries of just over $13 million.

4. ESPN’s Brian Windhorst reports that the Heat are looking to unload Norris Cole (http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/11149842/dwyane-wade-tells-miami-heat-test-free-agency). If they do that (and don’t get another player in return), his $2.0 million would be replaced by another rookie minimum cap hold (see 7-11) and they’d have an additional $1.5 million of cap space.

5. The Heat could renounce the rights to Chris Andersen, but he has just a vet’s minimum cap hold. Keeping that would allow them to sign him for much more after they’re back over the salary cap.

6. The Heat can pay Shabazz Napier 120 percent of the rookie scale for the No. 24 pick. As with James, better to keep the cap hold number until the other pieces are signed.

7-11. If you don’t have 12 guys on your roster, there is a rookie minimum cap hold ($507,336) for every slot that takes you up to 12. So, if we’re talking about James, Bosh, Wade, Cole, Andersen, Napier and one free agent, we need five minimum cap holds.

Additional note: In this scenario, the Heat have renounced their rights to Haslem, Ray Allen, Michael Beasley, Mario Chalmers, Toney Douglas, James Jones, Rashard Lewis, and Greg Oden, and have also waived Justin Hamilton (who has a non-guaranteed deal). It’s assumed that Haslem will get rewarded for opting out (with a long-term deal that pays him more than the $4.3 million he could have earned next season), and Allen is a critical piece in the rotation, but their cap holds ($8.2 million and $4.2 million) are too big to keep on the books.

After the Heat have gone over the cap, they can use the room exception (starting at $2.7 million) to bring one or more of those guys back (or add other free agents). It can be split among multiple players. After that, they’d have only minimum deals to offer players.

If all the above holds, the Heat could offer one free agent $45.1 million over four years ($11.3 million per year). If they are able to trade Cole, that would turn into $51.7 million over four years ($12.9 million per year).

That’s still about half of what Anthony could earn elsewhere. If he were to re-sign with the Knicks for the max, he’d get $129.1 million over five years ($25.8 per year). If he were to sign with a new team for the max, he’d get $95.9 million over four years ($24.0 million per year).

So Lowry, Ariza and Gortat are obviously more realistic options. If the Heat were to split their cap space among two free agents (assuming they traded Cole), they could offer them a total of about $13.5 million per year. Ariza and Gortat each made $7.7 million for the Wizards this past season, while Lowry made $6.2 million for the Raptors.

Both Gortat and Lowry will likely be offered raises from their current teams, who are both looking to keep the momentum going after returning to the postseason after long layoffs. With Martell Webster and Otto Porteron the roster, the Wizards might not fight hard for Ariza, but he could still get more than mid-level money elsewhere, as one of the better three-and-D guys in the league and still just 29 years old.

So there’s no clear starting-lineup upgrade for the Heat. But if James accepts less than the max or if Bosh and/or Wade accept less than $15 million per year, there’s more money to spend. And since they’re also offering a chance to play with the best player in the world for a championship on Biscayne Bay, they may not have to spend as much as other teams

[Thread]

^You're sitting pretty for a 3 peat, Splits. Sure, you had to give the 1 back, but, a 3 peat nonetheless.

[King Emmanuel]

^You're sitting pretty for a 3 peat, Splits. Sure, you had to give the 1 back, but, a 3 peat nonetheless.

we may have given two back.dont forget 2012 i think we beat the heat that year if we got past okc

[King Emmanuel]

so yeah timmy 7 kobe 5

[Thread]

so yeah timmy 7 kobe 5

I'd have to take it like a trooper. I'd have nary other choice.

[Splits]

^You're sitting pretty for a 3 peat, Splits. Sure, you had to give the 1 back, but, a 3 peat nonetheless.

You're sitting pretty for schtickless given the NBA landscape and the realistic possibility of Duncan 6 > Rapist 5. You should take your notepad, pencil, and eraser and start working on a new parrotphrase ASAP.

[King Emmanuel]

You're sitting pretty for schtickless given the NBA landscape and the realistic possibility of Duncan 6 > Rapist 5. You should take your notepad, pencil, and eraser and start working on a new parrotphrase ASAP.

dude u suck

[Thread]

You're sitting pretty for schtickless given the NBA landscape and the realistic possibility of Duncan 6 > Rapist 5. You should take your notepad, pencil, and eraser and start working on a new parrotphrase ASAP.

You've nary room. Your Neal raped as well.

[Splits]

You've nary room. Your Neal raped as well.

Who's Neal? Can you point him out?

http://dimemag.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/USATSI_79559651.jpg

[Venti Quattro]

Well the fizz in Coke lasted longer than the fuss of LeBron opting out... Told ya'll this will be a cap move for all of them to stay together,

[Venti Quattro]

owner worth 6.5 BILLION

Prokorhov, Allen and Ballmer are worth more but they're going to save money one way or another too. It's no use paying too much lux tax for a team. Bad business decision unless your minimum result is a championship.

[sook]

what a hero :cry

[CGD]

Bosh should leave. He gets no love and is the second most important player on that team.

[LkrFan]

Wow, Miami is really fucked if James wants $22 million starting. With four roster spots taken (James/Anderson/Cole/Napier) and 8 cap holds, they're looking at $32.7 million to fill out their roster. So their options are:

(1) bringing the same team back minus Battier and adding a couple of minimum salary guys
(2) letting Bosh or Wade walk, renouncing Chalmers, Lewis, Allen Haslem, and getting 2 or 3 quality non-star players

Didn't I read somewhere that Allen may retire? If he does, and no Battier? They're in trouble regardless of who they pick up.

[LkrFan]

& 6.

tee, hee.

:rollin :lmao :rollin

[LkrFan]

I think heat should bring wade off the bench help bench production and use bosh and james more
forget iso for wade

Agreed. Wade would never go for that even though it is best for them.

I respect Beak for doing it with you guys - though he is still better than Danny Green.

[LkrFan]

Riley would be fucking stupid to offer Bosh more than $12 mil/yr, and thats being generous.

I hope Fredo makes an offer to Bosh that makes Riley have to break the bank to keep him.

Bosh is underutilized in Miami. He should be 2nd fiddle. I'd roll with him being Kobe's Robin - especially if it breaks up the cHeat.

Without Bosh, they donePERIOD.

[Clipper Nation]

I'd have to take it like a trooper. I'd have nary other choice.
I'll just bet you would.

[Thread]

I'll just bet you would.

Good morning, slope.

[jARS mEsH sEt]

They'll each roughly make 15 mil a season, so we're looking at 75 over 5, with player options included.

Lebron James isn't taking the same salary as Bosh or Wade anymore.

[Killakobe81]

Bosh should leave. He gets no love and is the second most important player on that team.

He may be ...but y'all giving Bosh the MVPAU treatment before LeBron he couldn't win shit come playoffs.

[djohn2oo8]

Riley had the chance to let Wade walk even though he couldn't guard Danny Green.

[Thread]

Riley had the chance to let Wade walk even though he couldn't guard Danny Green.

Hey, fartface, what's up?

[djohn2oo8]

Hey, fartface, what's up?
Enjoying my bday. What is up fartcatcher?

[Thread]

Enjoying my bday. What is up fartcatcher?

Happy birthday, daddy-O. Enjoy your day.

[Killakobe81]

Riley had the chance to let Wade walk even though he couldn't guard Danny Green.
People acting as though Wade still aint coming out ahead here, people acting like dude is making a noble sacrifice.He will get at least 14 million probably for 5 years. Sure it's a cut but come year 3 it will be him cashing checks for beyond tosb play. Plus he ensures he will always have 1 more ring than James.

[Thread]

People acting as though Wade still aint coming out ahead dude is making a noble sacrifice.He will get at least 14 million probably for 5 years. Sure it's a cut but come year 3 it will be him cashing checks for beyond tosb play. >>>>>>Plus he ensures he will always have 1 more ring than James.<<<<<<

Yep, keep your friends close & the Ellis girl even closer.