2014 NBA Free Agency thread

[djohn2oo8]

Forgot this shit starts at midnight. Post rumors, signings, etc.

[MeloHype]

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[Killakobe81]

I hope some team overpays (max) on melo and it is NOT us ...
Liek with dwight I do want him let me be clear but not at MAX money or years. Unless he is willing to sign a two year deal ... LOL

[MeloHype]

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[Clipper Nation]

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:lol Cavs

[Infinite_limit]

Ah yes the NBA's Super Bowl is beginning

LOL @ the off season sport

[TheGoldStandard]

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The Poor Cavs..

[BatManu20]

Magic waive G Jameer Nelson, per Marc Spears

[Clipper Nation]

Ah yes the NBA's Super Bowl is beginning

LOL @ the off season sport
lol soccer

[whitemamba]

lol soccer

cant tell if the clippers are playin soccer or hoopin tbh.

[RsxPiimp]

Pacers decline option on Evan Turner

No surprise there...

[BatManu20]

Per Marc Spears

@SpearsNBAYahoo: Raptors plan to offer their free agent PG Kyle Lowry a contract starting at $14.5 million at 12:15 AM meeting in Toronto, Yahoo source said.


Ridiculous if true.

[Texas_Ranger]

damn. The Raptors really want Lowry.

[Robz4000]

Wonder where Nelson lands...

[djohn2oo8]

Per Marc Spears

@SpearsNBAYahoo: Raptors plan to offer their free agent PG Kyle Lowry a contract starting at $14.5 million at 12:15 AM meeting in Toronto, Yahoo source said.


Ridiculous if true.
Spears got tricked. Fake report.

[Pelicans78]

To be fair, Lowry has a win share of 11.7 this past season. That's worth about 18 million in the current CBA.

[lil_penny]

Broussard :lol

[Ron Swanson]

Spears got Bucher'd.

[lil_penny]

Chris Palmers twitter should be getting entertaining pretty soon also

[baseline bum]

lol nm

[ducks]

nelson goes back to stan and goes to pistons

[Splits]

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Dang

[baseline bum]

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Houston Rockets GM Daryl Morey has traveled to Philadelphia to meet with free agent guard Kyle Lowry tonight, league source tells Yahoo.

[ducks]

Lowry is a priority for the Rockets, who will first make a run at Carmelo Anthony (and LeBron James).

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 7s

Houston tried to bring back Lowry in a trade at the February deadline, but were rebuffed by Toronto.

[HemisfairArena]

Smartest thing the Rockets could do is get rid of the bricker Harden.

[ducks]

Wonder where Nelson lands...

back to his coach stan with pistons

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA

Two teams planning to make offers to their own restricted free agents within next day or two: Jazz (Gordon Hayward) and Suns (Eric Bledsoe).

[DPG21920]

So HOU is relying on a S&T? Because they won't have enough cap space for Melo or Lebron while making Lowry an offer.

[RsxPiimp]

Marc Stein : I'm told Portland has serious interest in a sign-and-trade for Monroe

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA

Dallas calls on RFA Chandler Parsons, and make no mistake: If Mavs miss on 'Melo, they'll be aggressive in pursuit of Parsons, sources say.

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA ·

David Blatt has joined Cavaliers meeting with Kyrie Irving in New Jersey, eager to further lay out his offensive vision to his star.

[ducks]

David Aldridge @daldridgetnt ·
Kevin McHale joining Daryl Morey in making pitch to Lowry, I'm told. Yahoo! reports Morey in Philly to see Lowry in person.

[ducks]

David Aldridge @daldridgetnt ·

Luol Deng is in Europe, per source, waiting to see what teams are interested. Then he will decide which of those teams to visit.

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Trevor Ariza has significant interest -- including Cavs -- and his Wizards coach, Randy Wittman, will be in L.A. by morning to meet him.

[HemisfairArena]

Fredo and Kupchak's first call was probably to Swaggy P. LMAO.

[ducks]

David Aldridge @daldridgetnt ·

Book made some loot w/nice postseason RT @MrMichaelLee Trevor Booker has interest from MIA, MIN, UTA, BKN, NYK, ORL & WAS, sources say

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA

Clippers have called on Luol Deng tonight, source tells Yahoo.

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[manufan10]

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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine ·
RT windhorstESPN: Clippers, Mavericks and Hawks first teams to call Luol Deng tonight. Others have calls scheduled tomorrow.

[TheGoldStandard]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA ·

David Blatt has joined Cavaliers meeting with Kyrie Irving in New Jersey, eager to further lay out his offensive vision to his star.

Blatt: Defense.... you know, guarding someone? Can he understand me?

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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Stretch big man Spencer Hawes drawing interest from clutch of contenders already (Blazers, Clips, Rockets, Mavs) on top of incumbent Cavs

[manufan10]

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Do it, Chaz!

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Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account
‏@WojYahooNBA Clippers have called on Luol Deng tonight, source tells Yahoo.

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David AldridgeVerified account
‏@daldridgetnt Clippers and Atlanta have also already made calls on Luol Deng. More calls expected in the morning.

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INTESTING

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojoYahooNBA 3 years/18M for Deng. He is now an @LAClippers #Clippers

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Bud going IN on one of LA's FA-min guys :hat

[BatManu20]

:lol Fake Wojo account posting updates. We've been had

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojoYahooNBA ·
Kings are making a strong push for Wade. Seems unlikely, but I've heard that Wade is keeping an open mind.

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojoYahooNBA ·
shocking reports out of Houston, Dwight Howard has asked to be traded unless the #Rockets can bring in Melo or LeBron

[Thread]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojoYahooNBA 3 years/18M for Deng. He is now an @LAClippers #Clippers

That's who the Suns were going to call if they didn't hear from James in 48 hours.

tee, hee.

[TheGoldStandard]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojoYahooNBA 3 years/18M for Deng. He is now an @LAClippers #Clippers

Solid wing player, finally

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojoYahooNBA Things are moving quick. Try to keep up. Sources telling me Pau Gasol will be meeting Pat Riley tomorrow afternoon.

[BatManu20]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojoYahooNBA ·
Kings are making a strong push for Wade. Seems unlikely, but I've heard that Wade is keeping an open mind.

0% chance Wade leaves Miami. He'll retire there.

[Splits]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojoYahooNBA 3 years/18M for Deng. He is now an @LAClippers #Clippers

No

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojoYahooNBA ·

A rapid start to FA continues, Greg Monroe is in deep talks with the #Blazers and a deal could be struck before sunrise.

[BatManu20]

If Pau signs with Miami that would be incredibly lame.

[Splits]

ducks trolling, none of those tweets are real.

[Thread]

If Pau signs with Miami that would be incredibly lame.

Or, anybody for that matter.

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA ·
Miami's Pat Riley has called Luol Deng's reps and registered his significant interest, source tells Yahoo.

[Thread]

ducks trolling, none of those tweets are real.

GD it!!!

[Thread]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA ·
Miami's Pat Riley has called Luol Deng's reps and registered his significant interest, source tells Yahoo.

Suns were going to turn to him if they didn't hear from James within 24-48 hours, maybe 72 if it passed 48 hours.

[manufan10]

ducks fucking things up.

[Splits]

GD it!!!

Just lookin' out for you, old feller. Change your LifeAlert battery recently?

[baseline bum]

ducks my nigga :lol

[ElNono]

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I thought the Clips were over the cap?

[manufan10]

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I thought the Clips were over the cap?

Fake account, tbh

[DPG21920]

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I thought the Clips were over the cap?


Not you too, Nono.

[ElNono]

sorry guys, was tracking upstairs... even made a thread about it :p

[ducks]

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN

this is the fake one below
https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt?original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spu rstalk.com%2Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D236721&tw_i=483827383955234816&tw_p=tweetembed

[ElNono]

^ thanks

[Splits]

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/2014-nba-free-agency-diary/

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:lol ducks

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[BatManu20]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojoYahooNBA 3 years/18M for Deng. He is now an @LAClippers #Clippers

You really had me thinking the NBA was melting down just minutes after FA began tbh :lol

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:rollin

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:lol ducks

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spears fell for it

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spears fell for it

:lol

[Robz4000]

:lol God dammit I wish I didn't have to work so early. Looks like tonight is gonna be a blast.

[ElNono]

:lol God dammit I wish I didn't have to work so early. Looks like tonight is gonna be a blast.

doubt much is happening tonight, tbh... I mean, most FA will probably get a feel for what's available...

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

Portland GM Neil Olshey met with free agent Spencer Hawes and his agent, Greg Lawrence, tonight in Los Angeles, sources tell Yahoo.

[ducks]

:lol God dammit I wish I didn't have to work so early. Looks like tonight is gonna be a blast.

tomorrow evening maybe some updates

[Robz4000]

doubt much is happening tonight, tbh... I mean, most FA will probably get a feel for what's available...

I meant with all these fake reports. I shit myself when I saw that Luol Deng tweet.

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spears fell for it

Annnnddddd Twitter suspended the fake Woj account... https://twitter.com/WojoYahooNBA

[djohn2oo8]

Getting intel some deals already lining up as soon as Tuesday afternoon. Back at it in a few hours.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) July 1, 2014 (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/statuses/483887171451891712)


Woj has since deleted that tweet. Should be intreesting nonetheless.

[benefactor]

Citing Kennedy is about as good as citing the fake Woj account tbh.

[Michael Jordan.]

Woj needs to wake his ass up

[Ron Swanson]

Any word from Bucher this morning?

[Killakobe81]

Why are Pistons interested in I.Thomas from Kings? SVG already shitting on the Brandon Jennings contract? SMH I recall some of us questioning that move ...and others defending it. At least Stan not married to Dumars mistakes but seems likely to be a bad mix ...

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[Michael Jordan.]

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Brian Windhorst windhorstESPN ·

That's right, Tony Parker makes $12.5 million. Keep that number in mind when reacting to what Dwyane Wade signs for this week.

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Brian Windhorst windhorstESPN ·
Included in flurry of activity last night, Grizzlies guaranteed C Kosta Koufos' $3M deal for next year after not tendering Ed Davis.

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Brian Windhorst windhorstESPN ·

The Celtics reached out to Isaiah Thomas tonight. Interesting, the Kings and Celtics had recently been in talks on Rajon Rondo deal.

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Brian Windhorst windhorstESPN ·

Charlotte Hornets also guaranteed 915K deal for forward Jeff Taylor, who ruptured his Achilles tendon in December.

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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine ·

Hearing: Cleveland is another weighing whether to join the bidding for Pistons RFA Greg Monroe. Atlanta, Portland and Orlando all interested

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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · Pistons, to be clear, have made it known they want to keep Monroe. But aforementioned teams are lining up to test Detroit's matching resolve

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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine ·

Nets are limited by what they can pay to keep Livingston after all that luxury tax they paid. Bound to struggle to re-sign him at this rate

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 1m

Rival teams believe that Atlanta's Mike Scott is a restricted agent who can be had with a strong offer sheet. Hawks protecting cap space.

[ducks]

Lakers, Heat and Bulls join OKC in reaching out to Thunder vet Caron Butler. Butler picked OKC over Heat last year after buyout from Bucks.
avid Aldridge @daldridgetnt ·

[Michael Jordan.]

Golden State is retarded if Klay Thompson is a deal breaker.

[Killakobe81]

Golden State is retarded if Klay Thompson is a deal breaker.
I don't get it either. Especially if they could offload Lee even if they take back Martin.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Brian Windhorst wind (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14572)horstESPN ·

The Celtics reached out to Isaiah Thomas tonight. Interesting, the Kings and Celtics had recently been in talks on Rajon Rondo deal.

wow. That kings fan called it.

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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 13m

Dirk Nowitzki update: Mavs, I'm told, operating under premise that finalizing Dirk's terms on new deal comes after Wednesday meeting w/Melo

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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · now

RT NickFriedell: Bulls' recruiting pitch to Melo already underway. This is message on side of the United Center -

[Clipper Nation]

Fredo owns the Bulls now, too? :lol

[Thread]

Fredo owns the Bulls now, too? :lol

Though, slope, without Jim Buss we're light 2 NBA Titles.

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 54s

In pursuit of shooting, Pacers pushing to use $2.1M exception on free agent guard C.J. Miles, league sources tell Yahoo Sports

[Clipper Nation]

Though, slope, without Jim Buss we're light 2 NBA Titles.
With Kirby, you're light two. Without Ronnie and Jerry, you're light two more.

[Spurs9]

Golden State is retarded if Klay Thompson is a deal breaker.
Because then they can't say the "splash brother:crys" anymore

[Thread]

With Kirby, you're light two. Without Ronnie and Jerry, you're light two more.

No, zipperhead, without Jim Buss we're light 2 NBA Titles.

[Clipper Nation]

No, zipperhead, without Jim Buss we're light 2 NBA Titles.
Nuh uh, bag. Those were Jerry and Ronnie's.

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 15s

Suns pushing to re-sign Channing Frye, sources tell Yahoo. After opting-out of deal, Frye's surveying market, including Cavs, Warriors.

[Thread]

Nuh uh, bag. Those were Jerry and Ronnie's.

No, slope. That was Jim Buss. And without him we're light 2 NBA Titles.

[Mugen]

I just want to see Melo with the Bulls tbh. It'd be a good fit and makes the East somewhat watchable.

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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 27m

Kyle Lowry and Luol Deng believed to be Miami's top two free-agent targets. Neither, though, seems especially attainable for Riles and Co.

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Chris Broussard Chris_Broussard · 32m

Hearing that Luol Deng will not take significantly less than his market value to join Heat

[Chris]

Getting tired of the Chris Broussard tweets, I get mentioned everytime :lol

[whitemamba]

Retweeted by Marc Stein

Chris Broussard Chris (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656)_Broussard · 32m

Hearing that Luol Deng will not take significantly less than his market value to join Heat

why would he? sweet lou is one of the most underrated players in the NBA.

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K.C. Johnson @KCJHoop · 1m

Taj Gibson has entered Melo meeting. As previously reported, not only do Bulls want to keep Taj, Carmelo wants to keep Taj if he comes.

[My Fault]

I just want to see Melo with the Bulls tbh. It'd be a good fit and makes the East somewhat watchable.

NBA fans want this to happen tbh...

[Malik Hairston]

Luol Deng isn't worth shit, he's a declining player that was always overrated, I hope there isn't a team foolish enough to pay him big, tbh..

He's a nice signing as a role player for relatively cheap, but :lol if any team expects him to be more than that..

[Chinook]

Luol Deng isn't worth shit, he's a declining player that was always overrated, I hope there isn't a team foolish enough to pay him big, tbh..

He's a nice signing as a role player for relatively cheap, but :lol if any team expects him to be more than that..

Yeah, I don't see what the fuss is about him. He'd be a fine fourth banana on a team like the Mavs, but even then, I'd rather have Ariza. If he's any team's main haul this off-season, they're going to be disappointed.

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 19m

After Toronto/Houston visits, Lowry huddling w/ agent Andy Miller. Heat, Lakers want meetings. Holding pattern, mulling Raps/Rockets offers.

[Jodelo]

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[baseline bum]

Wow, $19 million for fucking Jodie Meeks? Shit, so much for getting Diaw on something like 3 years, $21 million or Mills on 4 years, $18 million.

[Raven]

Luol Deng isn't worth shit, he's a declining player that was always overrated, I hope there isn't a team foolish enough to pay him big, tbh..

He's a nice signing as a role player for relatively cheap, but :lol if any team expects him to be more than that..
word. except that i hope some team overpays for him

[Malik Hairston]

I like Meeks and I think he's pretty underrated, tbh, but that's a lot of money for a player coming from the D'Antoni system:lol..

The Pistons are extremely desperate for shooting, though, so I guess they wanted to make sure it went through..

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Meeks 3yrs 19 mil, Green 3 yrs 12 mil :lol

[baseline bum]

The Pistons are extremely desperate for shooting, though, so I guess they wanted to make sure it went through..

Who would have figured that when they got Josh Smith? :lol

[spurraider21]

Damn, meeks got PAID. and :lol detroit for that one

[Holden_Caulfield]

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what the fuck :lmao

[Holden_Caulfield]

well there goes patty mills :cry :cry :cry

[Raven]

:lol @ patty coming for the mid level at this point

[Bynumite]

19 mil for a spot up shooter that benefited extremely from D'antoni's system and a season with no pressure and expectations.

Pistons :lol

[Spurs9]

:lmao Meeks

[RsxPiimp]

D'antonis' system :hat

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David Aldridge @daldridgetnt · 2h

Agent Henry Thomas, on report clients Bosh & Wade will take $12M/per & $11M/per, respectively: "all the BS you are reading is just that."

[ElNono]

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are you kidding me? that's crazy :lol

[Mugen]

Great, thanks a lot SVG. 19mil for Jodie F'n Meeks...

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Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account
‏@WojYahooNBA Portland's scouting director Chad Buchanan has reached agreement in principle to become Charlotte's assistant GM, league sources tell Yahoo.

[RsxPiimp]

Damn I wonder how much the Lakers will offer Swaggy P now, pls do not offer the full MLE, we're off to a good start with Randle, don't fuck this up Jim.

[Mugen]

:lol I just can't believe that there are still GMs out there willing to throw money at empty stats

The Lakers could have wheeled cobbler out there last season and he probably would have put up 12/4 over the course of a seson tbh.

[TheGoldStandard]

:lol I just can't believe that there are still GMs out there willing to throw money at empty stats

The Lakers could have wheeled cobbler out there last season and he probably would have put up 12/4 over the course of a seson tbh.

They never learn and the burden will fall where it should with Stan van.

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 17s

Luke Walton is finalizing an agreement with Golden State to become an assistant coach, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

[benefactor]

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:lol Spur fan complaining about Splitter's money

[IrisHockey]

:lmao Gortat has to be the worst player to ever earn 100 million in salary.

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[benefactor]

:lmao Gortat has to be the worst player to ever earn 100 million in salary.
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[RsxPiimp]

:lmao Gortat has to be the worst player to ever earn 100 million in salary.

close enough. juwan howard, shard lewis and of course arenas still tops it, all time.

[RsxPiimp]

man, these people are getting paid. :lol the next cba is going to put a lot of hurt on the owners.


lebron would be dumb to take anything less than $20 mil witht he type of $ these scrubs are getting.

[Clipper Nation]

I like Livingston, but Golden State just overpaid out the ass for a backup PG :lol

[LkrFan]

I like Livingston, but Golden State just overpaid out the ass for a backup PG :lol

How much did he get son?

[Baam]

Livingston is an awesome fit on that Golden state team... If there one team that doesn't need more 3 pt shooting it's them...

[Clipper Nation]

How much did he get son?
The full MLE ($16 mil) for 3 years, despite the fact that he's a backup PG with an even worse injury history than Curry....

I was hoping he'd come back to the Clippers, but at that asking price, forget about it....

[IrisHockey]

close enough. juwan howard, shard lewis and of course arenas still tops it, all time.

All 3 of those names were at one time all-stars.. Arenas was literally MVP caliber..

Gortat :lmao

[DPG21920]

:lmao Gortat has to be the worst player to ever earn 100 million in salary.

:lol Dampier

[LkrFan]

The full MLE ($16 mil) for 3 years, despite the fact that he's a backup PG with an even worse injury history than Curry....

I was hoping he'd come back to the Clippers, but at that asking price, forget about it....

Nice. After that gruesome injury, nice to see him bounce back and get paid.

Rumor: listening to XM radio, I'm hearing Pierce to the Clippers. Congrats son. :toast

[Clipper Nation]

All 3 of those names were at one time all-stars.. Arenas was literally MVP caliber..

Gortat :lmao
Arenas MVP caliber? FOH :lol

[DPG21920]

Arenas for MVP :lmao

[Clipper Nation]

Nice. After that gruesome injury, nice to see him bounce back and get paid.

Rumor: listening to XM radio, I'm hearing Pierce to the Clippers. Congrats son. :toast
I remember that injury like it was yesterday.... it was so bad that SportsCenter had to give a full warning and disclaimer before showing the footage that night, tbh.... it's actually amazing that he's bounced back to being a useful role player, because his career was done for a while after that....

Not too excited about 80-year-old Pierce and his wheelchair, but he can't be worse than Dudley :lol

[Kindergarten Cop]

Arenas for MVP :lmao


Arenas MVP caliber? FOH :lol

Arenas actually was an MVP - of the Rookie/Sophomore game during All Star Weekend.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Most valuable pimp as he suckered a team to give him 100 mil plus contract and barely played the last few years of it.

[DPG21920]

I don't get anyone saying anything bad about Livingston's contract. 3 years, 16M is not bad at all and even though he's a back up PG, he can play a few positions and is really more viewed as a 6th man. He's a good fit and 5M a year for a good 6th man on a playoff team is not bad at all.

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lvingston is making less then George hill
Livingston is a true point guard

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David Aldridge @daldridgetnt · 4m

He said Jason Kidd's bizarre departure from the Nets was not a major factor for him. "But Jason's situation didn't help matters," he said.

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David Aldridge @daldridgetnt · 6m

Just got off the phone w/ Shaun Livingston. "Long time coming," he said. Brooklyn's contract limitations (only had taxpayer MLE) big factor.

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[Malik Hairston]

Livingston is a solid move, tbh..it also opens up some possibilities to move Thompson without being as concerned about losing a ball-handler/creator(obviously Thompson is a much better shooter and player, but assuming you'll get a big name in return)..

Livingston at the 1 allows lineups that feature Curry at the 2 while cross-matching on defense, since Livingston is fine for guarding 2s and even some 3s..

[Baam]

If they traded for Love and had a : Curry Livingston Iggy Love Bogut lineup, the nba would be fucked tbh...

[Clipper Nation]

Not denying that Livingston is a good fit, just not sure a backup PG is worth that much when good PG's are hardly a rare commodity in today's league, tbh, especially when the PG in question has a history of greusome knee injuries....

[MeloHype]

If they traded for Love and had a : Curry Livingston Iggy Love Bogut lineup, the nba would be fucked tbh...
NBA would be fucked until Curry or bogut get injured and miss the playoffs

[Malik Hairston]

I agree, but it appears that this is going to be an off-season of overspending, though, so expect more of this:lol..

[Baam]

Not denying that Livingston is a good fit, just not sure a backup PG is worth that much when good PG's are hardly a rare commodity in today's league, tbh, especially when the PG in question has a history of greusome knee injuries....

"backup PG" doesn't exactly do Livingston justice as he can play 1 through 3...

On the other hand "backup PG" is very flattering for a midget chucker like Mills who is hardly a playmaker...

[Killakobe81]

man, these people are getting paid. :lol the next cba is going to put a lot of hurt on the owners.


lebron would be dumb to take anything less than $20 mil witht he type of $ these scrubs are getting.
Yep, and Bosh should at least ask for $15 million

[Killakobe81]

Wow, $19 million for fucking Jodie Meeks? Shit, so much for getting Diaw on something like 3 years, $21 million or Mills on 4 years, $18 million.
Jodie Meeks is a solid role player. But these damn owners can't help themselves and that is why I have no sympathy for them. Milk those fuckers dry. It's like a big corporation that over extends their credit but wants to cut employees bonus, medical or initiate lay-offs.

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Brian Windhorst windhorstESPN · 2h

As others have reported, Marcin Gortat will re-sign with Wizards for 5 years, $60 million. Length of deal was most important for Gortat.

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Brian Windhorst windhorstESPN · 2h

The Heat did contact Marcin Gortat but talks did not advance. He was focused on staying in Washington.

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Brian Windhorst windhorstESPN · 1m

Kyle Lowry will take some time to consider options. Raptors, Rockets & Lakers are bidders, sources said. Heat have not progressed talks.

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^Another 90-day wonder.

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 4m

Tough unrestricted free agent market for Lance Stephenson, I should say. Trouble finding leverage on the Pacers.

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David Aldridge @daldridgetnt · 1h

Wizards got crushed 12 months ago for giving Martell Webster $5.5M/yr. This year, Meeks gets $6M/yr, Bradley $8M/yr. Market is volatile!

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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine ·

Sides sorting final details in hopes of wrapping up Lionel Hollins' looming deal w/Nets today. Multiyear deal w/salary in $4-to-5 mil range

[RsxPiimp]

damn ben gordon got paid again

2 yr $9 mil deal w/ the magics

[LkrFan]

David Aldridge @daldridgetnt · 1h

Wizards got crushed 12 months ago for giving Martell Webster $5.5M/yr. This year, Meeks gets $6M/yr, Bradley $8M/yr. Market is volatile!
BNSF should be nervous as fuck. Just lost Patty for 7 months. Given what Jodie got, expect DG to hold out for a new $12M contract after pushing D-Whistle shit in, resulting in a rang. Sp*rs = f:lolcked

[benefactor]

Cavs may offer Gordon Hayward the max...:lol

[Ron Swanson]

damn ben gordon got paid again

2 yr $9 mil deal w/ the magics

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Michael-Scott-What-reaction-gifrific.gif

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 44s

Free agent guard Ben Gordon has agreed to a two-year, $9 million deal with the Orlando Magic, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

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Brian Windhorst windhorstESPN · 7s

Cavs believed to be preparing a max offer sheet for restricted free agent Gordon Hayward, sources said. Yahoo reported he is visiting today

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David Aldridge @daldridgetnt · 5m

Two yr/$9M deal for Ben Gordon (Yahoo! first) has club option for yr two, per sources. Magic want to see if he can get

[RsxPiimp]

David Aldridge @daldridgetnt · 5m

Two yr/$9M deal for Ben Gordon (Yahoo! first) has club option for yr two, per sources. Magic want to see if he can get

varying reports, says its a 2 yr guaranteed deal :lol

Any time you have a chance to pay Ben Gordon $4.5 million in free agency, you have to check to make sure he played last year + then do it.



Hennigan :lmao

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Heat, Spurs have contacted Pau Gasol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Brian Windhorst wind (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14572)horstESPN · 7s

Cavs believed to be preparing a max offer sheet for restricted free agent Gordon Hayward, sources said. Yahoo reported he is visiting today

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Irving, Waiters, Hayward.. what about Wiggins?

[TheGoldStandard]

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Irving, Waiters, Hayward.. what about Wiggins?

Moving waiters probably or he becomes a bench 6th man

[Trill Clinton]

cavs are offering gordon heyward 4yr/$63 million???http://i57.tinypic.com/wb9zqc.pnghttp://i57.tinypic.com/wb9zqc.pnghttp://i57.tinypic.com/wb9zqc.pnghttp://i57.tinypic.com/wb9zqc.png

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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 3m

Various versions continue to circulate but most popular had Jazz offer to Hayward topping out at four years, $48M ... with GH seeking 4/52

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[Raven]

holy shit ben gordon

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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 18m

Jazz have been vowing to match any offer Hayward gets. But could well cost 'em more now than it would have had they extended GH in October

[Sportcamper]

Come on Ducks...Say something funny like you used to...

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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 18m

Jazz have been vowing to match any offer Hayward gets. But could well cost 'em more now than it would have had they extended GH in October

The Suns have their heart set on this guy, so they're gonna have to prove it.

[Malik Hairston]

Gordon Hayward is one of the most overrated players in the league, tbh..this would be an unfortunate signing..

Jodie Meeks's big contract is now a little less ridiculous after seeing Ben Gordon getting 4.5 per year:lol..

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Marc SteinVerified account
‏@ESPNSteinLine Boston/Phoenix/Cleveland are known suitors for Hayward. Little doubt he would've turned down 4/$48M from Jazz unless sure he could get more

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David Aldridge @daldridgetnt · 27m

Told Carmelo Anthony meeting with Rockets is still ongoing.

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 6m

Free agent CJ Miles has agreed to 4-year, $18M deal with Pacers, league source tells Yahoo. @CandaceDBuckner 1st reported an agreement.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Makes you wonder how much money Monroe, Bledsoe and Hayward will get.

[spurraider21]

:lol in this offseason of overspending and inflated salaries, its almost a good thing the spurs aren't active
:lol Danny Green getting paid less than CJ Miles and Ben Gordon
:lol people complained about keeping Green at the time

[LkrFan]

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5 years/$45M should pry him away from Bird. Do it Mitch.

[spurraider21]

i actually like Lance... but he'd be a trainwreck in an environment like the Lakers

[Trill Clinton]

how did larry bird's ugly ass win executive of the year???

this dummy has been fucking up for a while now. he gave paul george a monster contract way too early, over payed hibbert and doesn't like young talent(gave us kawhi, bertans and is about to let lance dip in free agency)

lance's problem is maturity. he is still young and that is something that can be fixed with the right organization around him. he's a hell of a competitor and doesn't back down from no one(kinda reminds me of me on the court). he doesn't have a history of off the court problems and can flat out ball. giving up on him now is going to bite the pacers in the ass.

[LkrFan]

i actually like Lance... but he'd be a trainwreck in an environment like the Lakers

How so?

[spurraider21]

How so?
poor leadership, and too much freedom. he needs to be reigned in. on the lakers he'd have a bigger role than he can probably handle

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poor leadership, and too much freedom. he needs to be reigned in. on the lakers he'd have a bigger role than he can probably handle

Kobe rehabbed & led Artest & Odom to the tune of 3 NBA Titles. He tried the same thing with Howard, but, Howard wasn't having any of it.

[spurraider21]

Kobe rehabbed & led Artest & Odom to the tune of 3 NBA Titles. He tried the same thing with Howard, but, Howard wasn't having any of it.
odom wasn't rehabbed to anything... he looked better when his role was reduced after the Pau acquisition due to collusion with West

and Artest joined the reigning champs

[DPG21920]

how did larry bird's ugly ass win executive of the year???

this dummy has been fucking up for a while now. he gave paul george a monster contract way too early, over payed hibbert and doesn't like young talent(gave us kawhi, bertans and is about to let lance dip in free agency)

lance's problem is maturity. he is still young and that is something that can be fixed with the right organization around him. he's a hell of a competitor and doesn't back down from no one(kinda reminds me of me on the court). he doesn't have a history of off the court problems and can flat out ball. giving up on him now is going to bite the pacers in the ass.

Agree w/ Bird, but with regards to Lance? Can't be serious. Someone as dumb as Lance can't be fixed. Off the court issues or not, his on the court antics border on stupid to downright hurtful to the team. He's incredibly overrated in terms of actual impact which is a huge reason INDY melted down throughout the year and struggled so mightily in the playoffs. He's a guy that has a decent skill set, but is overrated in almost every aspect of the game. Not to mention he is clearly mentally weak.

What you describe sounds a lot like the JR Smith's of the world that people just claim is "immaturity" and fawn over his "skillset". There was a time some of that was true, but I've grown up and realized the truth on those guys. You don't pay big contracts to guys like that until they prove something/that they can change mentally.

[LkrFan]

Kobe rehabbed & led Artest & Odom to the tune of 3 NBA Titles. He tried the same thing with Howard, but, Howard wasn't having any of it.

All of this. Kobe never gets credit for jackshit around these parts. :lol

[LkrFan]

Agree w/ Bird, but with regards to Lance? Can't be serious. Someone as dumb as Lance can't be fixed. Off the court issues or not, his on the court antics border on stupid to downright hurtful to the team. He's incredibly overrated in terms of actual impact which is a huge reason INDY melted down throughout the year and struggled so mightily in the playoffs. He's a guy that has a decent skill set, but is overrated in almost every aspect of the game. Not to mention he is clearly mentally weak.

What you describe sounds a lot like the JR Smith's of the world that people just claim is "immaturity" and fawn over his "skillset". There was a time some of that was true, but I've grown up and realized the truth on those guys. You don't pay big contracts to guys like that until they prove something/that they can change mentally.

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Psychol:lolgist?
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[LakerHater]

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[DPG21920]

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Psychol:lolgist?
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Agree?

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484459379752988672

And if I live to be hundred I'll never understand it.

[LkrFan]

Agree?

To an extent. People mature at different stages of their lives. Who's to say he won't?

[DPG21920]

I'm not saying he won't. I'm saying based on history with guys like him, it's highly unlikely. He had a good coach, GM willing to work with him/guide him and a stable lockerroom (on a winning team no less) and he still couldn't cut it.

Not only that, but the overall point was whether he matures or not is not the point. The fact it's unlikely and you even have to ask shows you shouldn't pay a premium to find out. That's dumb.

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[spurraider21]

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[LakerHater]

In a surprising twist, OKC has come on strong with Pau Gasol, and described as a "frontrunner" for the Spaniard.

[LakerHater]

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http://espn.go.com/espn/print?id=11170322&type=story

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so according to that james is not sure where he will play just wants max

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Quote Originally Posted by ace3g

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Deal for Spurs' Patty Mills, I'm told, is in $12 million range over three years. One of my heroes Buck_SA first reported the agreement

[Killakobe81]

I'm not saying he won't. I'm saying based on history with guys like him, it's highly unlikely. He had a good coach, GM willing to work with him/guide him and a stable lockerroom (on a winning team no less) and he still couldn't cut it.

Not only that, but the overall point was whether he matures or not is not the point. The fact it's unlikely and you even have to ask shows you shouldn't pay a premium to find out. That's dumb.

Agree with most of this Except ...stable lockerroom. by all reports it fell apart with George, Hibbert, Turner and Lance culpable

[DPG21920]

Well, I think when you listen to either direct comments or more subtle ones, people seemed to have a probably with Lance. He got into fights with multiple teammates and with his first year with an expanded role the chemistry that seemed to be so great all of the sudden disappears?

[Killakobe81]

Well, I think when you listen to either direct comments or more subtle ones, people seemed to have a probably with Lance. He got into fights with multiple teammates and with his first year with an expanded role the chemistry that seemed to be so great all of the sudden disappears?
Ok I buy Lance was probably part of the issue maybe most of it. But not every team is koombya like the Spurs. 90s bUll's had issues but their leaders overcame them. So did BadBoys, Shaqobe Lakers and even magic and Kareem. Pacers melted I think mostly from higher expectations ...so I question that lockerroom and if he was THAT bad why does Bird want him back?

[Killakobe81]

Also Pacers chemistry was exaggerated. I doubt transition to Paul George from whatshisname was not smooth. East was shitty and injured Vogel is also overrated tbh.

[DPG21920]

Ok I buy Lance was probably part of the issue maybe most of it. But not every team is koombya like the Spurs. 90s bUll's had issues but their leaders overcame them. So did BadBoys, Shaqobe Lakers and even magic and Kareem. Pacers melted I think mostly from higher expectations ...so I question that lockerroom and if he was THAT bad why does Bird want him back?

I don't think Bird does. Might be reading too much into it, but Bird's offer seems to be purposely "low" (although in reality it's really fair) as a means to drive him to go elsewhere. The fact it's a take it or leave it offer as well signals his true intentions.

[DPG21920]

Also Pacers chemistry was exaggerated. I doubt transition to Paul George from whatshisname was not smooth. East was shitty and injured Vogel is also overrated tbh.

Well w/ regards to Vogel, INDY really is a limited team both athletically and talent-wise. He somehow managed to take them to back to back ECF which is no small feat.

[Killakobe81]

I don't think Bird does. Might be reading too much into it, but Bird's offer seems to be purposely "low" (although in reality it's really fair) as a means to drive him to go elsewhere. The fact it's a take it or leave it offer as well signals his true intentions.
Don't buy that if he was THAT bad you let him walk. If bad but redeemable you make a fair offer you don't overpay. Bird is being smart.

[Killakobe81]

Granger was his name lol ...he was that shitty and on a lower tier LA team I forgot his name ...

[DPG21920]

I agree that I think Bird is being smart, but I think what is enabling him is he really doesn't care if Lance comes back. If he comes back at that price, he's also tradeable.

[Killakobe81]

Well w/ regards to Vogel, INDY really is a limited team both athletically and talent-wise. He somehow managed to take them to back to back ECF which is no small feat.
Tibss, Carlisle, Pop and even Spo lick their chops at his overrated ass.

[DPG21920]

Tibss, Carlisle, Pop and even Spo lick their chops at his overrated ass.

All better coaches for sure, but I have Vogel as probably the best coach in that next tier.

[Killakobe81]

All better coaches for sure, but I have Vogel as probably the best coach in that next tier.

Doc and SVg probably better too after that you are probably right but most coaches suck

[DPG21920]

:lol Agree, most coaches aren't a big deal and very easily replaceable. Hopefully a promising new crop keeps filtering through which is a trend with a high number of first time HC's getting chances.

[Killakobe81]

I think buldenholzer and Casey show promise but East so shitty hard to tell. Fish and Kerr need to prove they are more than smooth talkers. Kidd needs to prove his ego can be checked.

[Trill Clinton]

cosign everything killkobe said the last page and a half.

[DPG21920]

cosign everything killkobe said the last page and a half.

How is that possible when Killa said the offer is fair and you shouldn't overpay Lance and you clearly said Bird is low balling him :lol