Obama on Immigration live

[TheSanityAnnex]

Does this guy ever take responsibility for anything? All he's done is blame blame blame. And surprise surprise....he'll side step congress again. His term could not end soon enough.

[boutons_deux]

Pay fucking attention, Insanity

the Repugs failed all imm reform from 2001 to 2006, while in full control of govt

the Repugs have BLOCKED all imm reform since Jan 2009

Obama is to blame for Repugs blocking imm reform? GFY

[TheSanityAnnex]

You're just like your dear leader blame blame blame.

[CosmicCowboy]

Any immigration policy is pointless if you don't have a secure border and don't enforce the policy.

Agree or disagree?

[angrydude]

Step 1: secure the border
Step 2 Start a work visa program (not a citizenship program) for South American countries you have to go to your home country's US embassy to get

[TheSanityAnnex]

Any immigration policy is pointless if you don't have a secure border and don't enforce the policy.

Agree or disagree?

Correct.

[Clipper Nation]

The only reform necessary is to kick all the illegals OUT, no questions asked, end of story....

[boutons_deux]

Any immigration policy is pointless if you don't have a secure border and don't enforce the policy.

Why didn't you and Repugs WHINE and PISS about closing the border, why didn't y'all ACTUALLY DO IT, from 2001 to 2008?

How many $10Bs are you willing to spend to close the border that meets your requirements?

and how many $100Bs are you ready to spend it maintain such closure indefinitely?

[boutons_deux]

The Repugs KNOW the border can't be sealed perfectly, so by delaying all imm reform until the unachievable is achieved, they're FUCKING LYING

[TheSanityAnnex]

Boutons, why the surge of illegals now? What is your plan? Try to not play the blame game with this next response, try to be different than your dear leader for once.

[Clipper Nation]

The only reform necessary is to kick all the illegals OUT, no questions asked, end of story....
Notice how Boutons couldn't even respond to this truthbomb, tbh....

[boutons_deux]

Boutons, why the surge of illegals now? What is your plan? Try to not play the blame game with this next response, try to be different than your dear leader for once.

you're just ASKING to be bitch slapped. You man enough for it?

[TheSanityAnnex]

you're just ASKING to be bitch slapped. You man enough for it?

still waiting....

[SnakeBoy]

Any immigration policy is pointless if you don't have a secure border and don't enforce the policy.

Agree or disagree?

I think it is just the opposite. Get a sensible immigration policy that allows the migrant workers we need to come over legally first. Otherwise we'll spend lot's of resources trying to stop people who should be allowed to come over.

[Jacob1983]

Didn't Obama have a Democratic Congress in 2009?

[Big Empty]

one of the things i noticed when i went to kickapoo casin were all the border patrol. i noticed all the trucks on the border were all f350. all of them. i understand u need those types of vehicles for heavy duty towing but damn. thats a 50-60K vehicle when a f140 4x4 would do just as fine.

[SnakeBoy]

one of the things i noticed when i went to kickapoo casin were all the border patrol. i noticed all the trucks on the border were all f350. all of them. i understand u need those types of vehicles for heavy duty towing but damn. thats a 50-60K vehicle when a f140 4x4 would do just as fine.

Some of them Mexicans are pretty damn heavy.

[baseline bum]

The only reform necessary is to kick all the illegals OUT, no questions asked, end of story....

No, you also need to put people in jail for hiring them too.

[HI-FI]

Obama is always going to blame because he's never been a leader before his current gig and he's got a lot of daddy issues. Plus politicians in general hate accountability.

both parties have been terrible with immigration. I despised Bush's handling of it but Obama is even worse. This mass arrival of illegals seems planned and manipulated by the higher ups though. definitely something rotten in Denver.

I don't trust either party, especially with this issue. It will be interesting what unconstitutional shit Obama will pull, because I'm sensing serious frustration from the legit citizens. Cantor getting his shit pushed in is proof of this.

[Nbadan]

both parties have been terrible with immigration. I despised Bush's handling of it but Obama is even worse. This mass arrival of illegals seems planned and manipulated by the higher ups though. definitely something rotten in Denver.

Wacky conspiracy theories are always right....fact remains, Obama has repatriated more illegals than any President, Republican or Democrat, before him...if Government really wanted to get serious about immigration reform it would get tough on employers who hire the illegals and make sure there are enough visas to cover the agricultural seasonal workers....GOP likes the way things are now....it's CEO's get the fruit of cheap labor and they can manipulate their loyal FAUX News crowd into believing that this is an Obama/Democrat conspiracy theory...

[Nbadan]

Gheen: Immigrants 'May Smile At You As They Hand You Your Cheeseburger' But They Really Want 'You And Your Whole Family To Die'

Submitted by Miranda Blue on Monday, 6/30/2014 4:47 pm


In an interview with the Tea Party News Network on Saturday, William Gheen of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC) claimed that Mexican American immigrants “may smile at you as they serve you your cheeseburger or peruse across your law with a weed eater” but in reality they want “for you and your whole family to die.” Gheen claimed that Mexican schools teach students to hate America, so those who immigrate to the U.S. show “no type of mercy” to “anyone out there that’s not a flaming socialist, communist or liberal” and will vote Democratic, based on “racial identity” and “what they consider to be reparations.”

- See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/gheen-immigrants-may-smile-you-they-hand-you-your-cheeseburger-they-really-want-you-and-your#sthash.PVFEPd6M.dpuf

[RD2191]

Gheen: Immigrants 'May Smile At You As They Hand You Your Cheeseburger' But They Really Want 'You And Your Whole Family To Die'

Submitted by Miranda Blue on Monday, 6/30/2014 4:47 pm



- See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/gheen-immigrants-may-smile-you-they-hand-you-your-cheeseburger-they-really-want-you-and-your#sthash.PVFEPd6M.dpuf
:lmao

[boutons_deux]

Obama is always going to blame because he's never been a leader before his current gig and he's got a lot of daddy issues.

:lol you right-wingers are reliably, amazingly stupid

daddy issues? psychobabble! :lol

[boutons_deux]

Misassigning Blame for Immigration Crisis


What has been markedly different about the current surge is that it is coming from three Central American countries, not Mexico, and it largely involves unaccompanied children, not adult men looking for jobs.

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/2014/06/UAC-.jpg

At first, the administration blamed “rising levels of violence in Central America,” as it did in aJune 9 press release (http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=122438) announcing that Fort Sill will be the third military base to house unaccompanied children who crossed the border illegally. There is evidence that supports that claim, based on interviews the New York Times did (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/17/us/migrants-flow-in-south-texas-as-do-rumors.html?hp) with those who illegally crossed the border. But the Times’ article showed the surge has been fueled by rumors about “permits.”


New York Times, June 16: While most men are held and processed quickly for deportation, border authorities struggling to manage the influx have been releasing pregnant women and parents with young children, allowing them to join family members living here and issuing them a deportation hearing notice. Migrants have sent word back home they received a “permit” to remain at least temporarily in the United States, feeding rumors along migrant routes and spurring others to embark on the long journey.


During the June 20 conference call with reporters, administration officials acknowledged that false rumors of “permits” were fueling the crisis, and they vowed to take action to counter the misinformation. The Times wrote (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/21/us/us-plans-to-step-up-detention-and-deportation-of-migrants.html):

New York Times, June 20: Until now, White House officials have insisted that extreme poverty and an epidemic of gang violence in those Central American countries were the main causes of the unanticipated spike in illegal migration.

But many migrants also told Border Patrol agents they decided to set out for the United States after hearing that it was offering some kind of entry permit. Many other migrants who asked for asylum after being apprehended have been allowed to stay temporarily, further fueling hopes that Central American women and children were receiving special treatment.


On a conference call with reporters, Cecilia Muñoz (http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/dpc/about/dpc-director), director of the White House Domestic Policy Council, said the administration was moving to “push back” on “misinformation that is being deliberately planted by criminal organizations, by smuggling networks, about what people can expect if they come to the United States.”

The DACA policy was an executive action taken without congressional approval. It was implemented by the Department of Homeland Security on June 15, 2012 (http://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/consideration-deferred-action-childhood-arrivals-daca#filingprocess) — about one yearbefore the Senate vote on amnesty. In a precursor to the DACA, the director of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement a year earlier — on June 17, 2011 — issued a memo (http://www.ice.gov/doclib/secure-communities/pdf/prosecutorial-discretion-memo.pdf)that said immigration agents should use “prosecutorial discretion” when deciding whom to detain and deport. That policy — again taken without congressional approval — urged the deportation of those with criminal records before students, military veterans and others deemed to be low risk.

We don’t know how the rumors got started and whether the president’s actions or inactions are to blame.

But, even if you accept the Republican premise, it still does not follow that the president “created this crisis only after Lamar Alexander voted for amnesty.” There is no evidence of a causal relationship between a Senate immigration bill that never became law and a current surge of Central Americans crossing the Southwest border.

Correction, June 30: The original article misstated who would have been eligible to apply for provisional legal status and, ultimately, citizenship under the Border Security, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Modernization Act. The act would apply only to those who were living illegally in the U.S. before 2012.

http://www.factcheck.org/2014/06/misassigning-blame-for-immigration-crisis/

iow, if ANYTHING (bad) HAPPENS, Repugs' automatic tactic is to BLAME OBAMA, in parallel with OBSTRUCTING EVERYTHING THE DEMS PROPOSE.

This means that even if Obama/Dems do screw up (CC, etc can provide specifics! :lol ), the Little-Boy Repugs who have been Crying Wolf are 100% unbelievable (except for you stupid, duped right-wingers)

[boutons_deux]

What’s the Reality?
In fact, desperate Central American parents are exploiting separate legal loopholes in American border security passed before Obama took office.

Unaccompanied minors fall under the bipartisan law, William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008 (http://www.state.gov/j/tip/laws/), which passed the House and Senate unanimously and was signed into law by President George W. Bush.

That law says the children cannot be sent back. They must instead be held humanely by the Department of Health and Human Services until the courts release them to a “suitable family member” in this country.

The child “shall be promptly placed in the least restrictive setting that is in the best interest of the child,” the law stipulates. “Placement of child trafficking victims may include placement in an Unaccompanied Refugee Minor program … if a suitable family member is not available to provide care.”

Department of Homeland Security (DHS) sources say more than 80 percent of these children will find permanent homes in the U.S., with either family or foster homes and not be sent back to Central America.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/06/analysis-whats-the-real-reason-behind-central-american-immigrant-wave-u-s-law/

[boutons_deux]

Why the surge in migrant children at border?

Why are so many children crossing now?

Gang violence in El Salvador and in urban areas of Guatemala has escalated dramatically in recent months since a weak truce among rival gangs has evaporated, said Elizabeth G. Kennedy, a Fulbright scholar reached Monday in San Salvador, the capital of El Salvador.

"Half of them are fleeing for their lives," she said.

Kennedy, investigating the causes of child migration, has interviewed more than 400 child migrants. For many, Kennedy said, "their decision is: Do I face possible death in migrating or sure death in staying?"

The gang violence "particularly affects youths," said Alison Ramirez, who works on a U.S.-funded violence-prevention project in El Salvador and who frequently visits Honduras and Guatemala.

"The gangs are in schools, neighborhoods. They're everywhere," she said. "Even if the kids don't want to be a part of it, they get caught up in the crossfire, extorted, threatened."

"The violence is one of the drivers in Honduras," said David Scott FitzGerald, associate director of the Center for Comparative Immigration Studies in California. "Just looking at the homicide rate, it has tripled in the last decade. It's the highest in the world for a country not at war."

Children from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador aren't just fleeing to the United States. Increasing numbers have been seeking asylum in Mexico, Costa Rica, Panama, Nicaragua and Belize, according to the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees. Kennedy and Ramirez agreed that most children who flee to the United States do so because they have family members here.

Can't the Border Patrol just stop them?

The short answer: No. While the U.S. government has spent more than $126 billion over the past nine years on border security and enforcement, much of the fencing and infrastructure was built in California, Arizona and western Texas, which were the major crossing areas over the past decade.

The Border Patrol has been moving increasing numbers of agents into the Rio Grande Valley Sector, but vast stretches of the river are easy to cross, and there is extensive vegetation along the banks that makes it easy to hide both before and after crossing.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2014/06/09/immigrant-children-arizona-border-answers/10246771/

Agent Orange was mentioned to kill the riparian vegetation, like Carrizo cane (arundo donax).

[boutons_deux]

Dramatic Surge in the Arrival of Unaccompanied Children Has Deep Roots and No Simple Solutions

, it is painfully clear that there are no simple solutions, whether in the short or medium term, to address the complex set of push and pull factors driving the rise in arrivals of unaccompanied alien children (UACs).

Ninety-eight percent of unaccompanied minors currently arriving at the border are from Honduras (28 percent), Mexico (25 percent), Guatemala (24 percent), and El Salvador (21 percent). This breakdown represents a significant shift: prior to 2012, more than 75 percent of UACs were from Mexico.

http://www.migrationpolicy.org/sites/default/files/source_charts/PB-June2014-Fig1.JPG

Why Is This Happening?

There are deep root causes for this child migration, and for the recent surge in arrivals. While there is consensus that there are significant push and pull factors at work, there is not agreement as to which are more important. And inevitably, the issue of unaccompanied child migration has become ensnared in the broader political fight over immigration reform.

In reality, there is no single cause. Instead, a confluence of different pull and push factors has contributed to the upsurge. Recent U.S. policies toward unaccompanied children, faltering economies and rising crime and gang activity in Central American countries, the desire for family reunification, and changing operations of smuggling networks have all converged.

There is some evidence of a growing perception among Central Americans that the U.S. government’s treatment of minors, as well as minors traveling in family units, has softened in recent years. These child-friendly policies in many ways directly flow from TVPRA. In addition to the screening and ORR transfer requirements described above, the law also requires the United States to ensure safe repatriation of minors and established standards for custody, created more child-friendly asylum procedures, and relaxed eligibility for SIJ visa status. Some also contend that minors are spurred to migrate by the false idea that they could benefit under the Obama administration’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which offers a reprieve from deportation for certain young unauthorized immigrants who have lived in the United States since 2007.

http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/dramatic-surge-arrival-unaccompanied-children-has-deep-roots-and-no-simple-solutions

If Obama deports these unaccompanied minors back, he will be breaking the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008 (http://www.state.gov/j/tip/laws/) law, and will be impeached by the Repugs! :lol

[Wild Cobra]

Yep.

Rumors about permits and amnesty open the flood gates.

[boutons_deux]

Yep.

Rumors about permits and amnesty open the flood gates.

so why are ALL Y'ALL right-wingers blaming Obama personally for attracting "diseased" kids into USA?

[xrayzebra]

Wacky conspiracy theories are always right....fact remains, Obama has repatriated more illegals than any President, Republican or Democrat, before him...if Government really wanted to get serious about immigration reform it would get tough on employers who hire the illegals and make sure there are enough visas to cover the agricultural seasonal workers....GOP likes the way things are now....it's CEO's get the fruit of cheap labor and they can manipulate their loyal FAUX News crowd into believing that this is an Obama/Democrat conspiracy theory...

Only on paper. He directed that they now count all illegals put back across the border. In the past those that were returned at the border were not counted.

About normal for Obama, skew the numbers.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117412/deportations-under-obama-vs-bush-who-deported-more-immigrants

[Wild Cobra]

so why are ALL Y'ALL right-wingers blaming Obama personally for attracting "diseased" kids into USA?
It's democrats in general. they keep talking about amnesty, so people wand to get here before any deadlines are in place.

[boutons_deux]

It's democrats in general. they keep talking about amnesty, so people wand to get here before any deadlines are in place.

no, the Dems talk about DREAM act, about imm reform, which the Repugs, racists, xenophobes, and "you people" slander as amnesty.

[TheSanityAnnex]

still waiting....

and waiting...

[TheSanityAnnex]

Has there ever been a President who's blamed the opposing party as much as Obama? Not once yesterday did he actually speak of any sort of plan to fix the immigration policy, not once. Blame, blame, blame.

[boutons_deux]

Has there ever been a President who's blamed the opposing party as much as Obama? Not once yesterday did he actually speak of any sort of plan to fix the immigration policy, not once. Blame, blame, blame.

has there ever been a President who's been left with such a huge pile of shit by the previous administration?

(candidate: FDR )

[TheSanityAnnex]

Non-answer I see.


And I'm still waiting for your bitchslap solution to the immigration problem.

[boutons_deux]

Non-answer I see.


And I'm still waiting for your bitchslap solution to the immigration problem.

was the PERFECT answer

the bitch slap is above

[TheSanityAnnex]

was the PERFECT answer

the bitch slap is above

You didn't answer what your solution to the immigration problem is. Spamming articles doesn't count, no one reads your bullshit. In your own words this time, your solution please...

[boutons_deux]

You didn't answer what your solution to the immigration problem is. Spamming articles doesn't count, no one reads your bullshit. In your own words this time, your solution please...

The imm reform bill passed by the Senate, but REFUSED by the House Repugs, is an excellent starting point.

[Wild Cobra]

no, the Dems talk about DREAM act, about imm reform, which the Repugs, racists, xenophobes, and "you people" slander as amnesty.

I see you haven't read the legislation.

Keep letting Mother Earth, Common Dreams, etc. keep shoving more shit in your mouth. I don't really care. i do however find it amazing how ignorant you are.

[boutons_deux]

Key provisions of the Senate bipartisan immigration bill


Path to Citizenship

The estimated 11 million people living in the U.S. illegally could obtain “registered provisional immigrant status” six months after enactment of the bill as long as certain requirements are met:





The Homeland Security Department must develop border security and fencing plans, per the specifications set out in the bill. (See Border Control, below.)


Undocumented immigrants must have arrived in the U.S. prior to Dec. 31, 2011, and maintained continuous physical presence since then.


Undocumented immigrants must have not had a felony conviction or three or more misdemeanors.


Upon payment of a $500 fine, the provisional legal status lasts six years and is renewable for another six years for $500.


People in provisional legal status could work and travel in the U.S. but would not be eligible for most federal benefits, including health care and welfare.


People deported for noncriminal reasons can apply to re-enter in provisional status if they have a spouse or child who is a U.S. citizen or permanent resident, or if they had been brought to the U.S. as a child.


After 10 years in provisional status, immigrants can seek a green card and lawful permanent resident status if they are current on their taxes and pay a $1,000 fine, have maintained continuous physical presence in the U.S., meet work requirements and learn English. Also the border triggers must have been met, and all people waiting to immigrate through the legal system as of the date of enactment of the legislation must have been dealt with.


People brought to the country as youths would be able to get green cards in five years, and citizenship immediately thereafter.



Border Control

Certain border security requirements must be achieved within 10 years before any undocumented immigrant can obtain a permanent resident green card. These include:



The number of Border Patrol agents stationed along the U.S.-Mexico border will be roughly doubled to at least 38,405.


Seven hundred miles of pedestrian fencing along the border must be completed, which will require approximately 350 new miles of fencing.


A host of new security measures and technologies in specified locations along the border will be installed. These include specific numbers of surveillance towers, camera systems, ground sensors, radiation detectors, mobile surveillance systems, drones, helicopters, airborne radar systems, planes and ships.


A system for all employers to verify electronically their workers’ legal status will be implemented.


A new electronic system to track people leaving the nation’s airports and seaports must be set up.


The border security improvements are designed to achieve 100 percent surveillance of the border with Mexico and ensure that 90 percent of would-be crossers are caught or turned back. If the goals of a 90 percent effectiveness rate and continuous surveillance on the border are not met within five years, a Southern Border Security Commission made up of border-state governors and others would determine how to achieve them.


Border security spending in the bill totals around $46 billion.



H-1B high-skilled visas



The cap on the H-1B visa program for high-skilled workers would be immediately raised from 65,000 a year to 110,000 a year, with 25,000 more set aside for people with advanced degrees in science, technology, engineering or math from a U.S. school. The cap could go as high as 180,000 a year depending on demand.


New protections would crack down on companies that use H-1B visas to train workers in the U.S. only to ship them back overseas.


Immigrants with certain extraordinary abilities, such as professors, researchers, multinational executives and athletes, would be exempted from existing green-card limits. So would graduates of U.S. universities with job offers and degrees in science, technology, engineering or math.


A startup visa would be made available to foreign entrepreneurs seeking to come to the U.S. to start a company.


A new merit visa, for a maximum of 250,000 people a year, would award points to prospective immigrants based on their education, employment, length of residence in the U.S. and other considerations. Those with the most points would earn the visas.


The bill would eliminate the government’s Diversity Visa Lottery Program, which randomly awards 55,000 visas to immigrants from countries with historically low rates of immigration to the United States, so that more visas can be awarded for employment and merit ties.



Guest worker “W-visa” program



A new W visa would allow up to 200,000 low-skilled workers a year into the country for jobs in construction, long-term care, hospitality and other industries.


A new agriculture worker visa program would be established to replace the existing program. Agriculture workers already here illegally, who’ve worked in the industry at least two years, could qualify in another five years for green cards if they stay in the industry.



Changes to family visa program



Under current law, U.S. citizens can sponsor spouses, children and siblings to come to the U.S., with limits on some categories. The bill would bar citizens from sponsoring their siblings and would allow them to sponsor married sons and daughters only if those children are under age 31.


Legal permanent residents can currently sponsor spouses and children, but the numbers are limited. The bill eliminates that limit.



Employment verification



Within four years, all employers must implement E-Verify, a program to verify electronically their workers’ legal status. As part of that, noncitizens would be required to show photo ID that must match with a photo in the E-Verify system.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/provisions-in-senate-bipartisan-immigration-bill-revised/




http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/provisions-in-senate-bipartisan-immigration-bill-revised/

unlike WC, I don't pretend to be lawyer, so the above summary is Good Enough. Of course, House tea baggin xenophobic Repugs won't even bring it up (really, they are simply permitting their Repug benefactors want: allow Repug employers to keep exploiting low wage labor, underpaying, not paying, stealing wages, etc, etc.)

[xrayzebra]

We don't any new laws. Just enforcement of the laws we have on the books. Send the little brats back to their home countries and let them sort out who they belong to.

[TheSanityAnnex]

no, the Dems talk about DREAM act, about imm reform, which the Repugs, racists, xenophobes, and "you people" slander as amnesty.

How is letting 11+ million ILLEGAL aliens not a form of amnesty?

[TheSanityAnnex]

We don't any new laws. Just enforcement of the laws we have on the books. Send the little brats back to their home countries and let them sort out who they belong to.

Typical Democratic move. More laws!

[hitmanyr2k]

Anyone who thinks anything is going to get done while this batshit stupid congress is in power are kidding themselves. The message on the wall has been loud and clear since Day 1 of the black guy taking office. The Republicans weren't going to do shit but play games and stonewall everything in attempt to take back power. A bunch of old dumbass white guys fucked the country and had it sinking like the Titanic right before they left office. Do you really think they were going to let a black guy or a woman like Hillary come in and get cooperation to fix this country and let a minority go down in history as the "hero" who saved the country? :lol Get the fuck outta here. Nothing was going to get done about jobs, healthcare, and especially immigration because the GOP knows the amnestied illegals wouldn't vote for a dumbass party that's been demagoguing them from the start. That's just giving a massive voting bloc to the Democrats.

[m>s]

Anyone who thinks anything is going to get done while this batshit stupid congress is in power are kidding themselves. The message on the wall has been loud and clear since Day 1 of the black guy taking office. The Republicans weren't going to do shit but play games and stonewall everything in attempt to take back power. A bunch of old dumbass white guys fucked the country and had it sinking like the Titanic right before they left office. Do you really think they were going to let a black guy or a woman like Hillary come in and get cooperation to fix this country and let a minority go down in history as the "hero" who saved the country? :lol Get the fuck outta here. Nothing was going to get done about jobs, healthcare, and especially immigration because the GOP knows the amnestied illegals wouldn't vote for a dumbass party that's been demagoguing them from the start. That's just giving a massive voting bloc to the Democrats.
You sound mad faggot. I support neither party but rather the third position and I can't wait to see the traitors on both sides executed mercilessly for their crimes.

[boutons_deux]

How is letting 11+ million ILLEGAL aliens not a form of amnesty?

amnesty is a pardon, excused from all penalty, but all y'all xenophobic rednecks aint' very book smart about words.

Y'all fellers swallow the Repug/Fox propaganda like it was the Bible truth :lol And we all know the Bible is unchallengeable accurate scientific and history tome of truth, just like Repug politicians and Fox.

under the Senate bill, there are financial penalties, 10 years of waiting, and more penalties if unpaid income/SS taxes are discovered. iow, it's ain't "amnesty" except in your white-man's xenophobic imagination.

[m>s]

waiting? they're already right here

[m>s]

what's your race boutons? you like to operate out of the shadows, but i see you for what you are

[m>s]

nothing but a little shill BITCH

[littlecoyotecoin]

amnesty is a pardon, excused from all penalty, but all y'all xenophobic rednecks aint' very book smart about words.

Y'all fellers swallow the Repug/Fox propaganda like it was the Bible truth :lol And we all know the Bible is unchallengeable accurate scientific and history tome of truth, just like Repug politicians and Fox.

under the Senate bill, there are financial penalties, 10 years of waiting, and more penalties if unpaid income/SS taxes are discovered. iow, it's ain't "amnesty" except in your white-man's xenophobic imagination.

Then after those penalties, citizenship. Call them what they are, citizenship purchase fees, amnesty fees, etc. Just guaranteed democratic votes. I don't watch Fox. I'm not a Republican. My wife is from Central America. And, I'm educated and agnostic. A lot of your stereotypes are just deflection from the facts of the case.

[TheSanityAnnex]

amnesty is a pardon, excused from all penalty, but all y'all xenophobic rednecks aint' very book smart about words.

Y'all fellers swallow the Repug/Fox propaganda like it was the Bible truth :lol And we all know the Bible is unchallengeable accurate scientific and history tome of truth, just like Repug politicians and Fox.

under the Senate bill, there are financial penalties, 10 years of waiting, and more penalties if unpaid income/SS taxes are discovered. iow, it's ain't "amnesty" except in your white-man's xenophobic imagination.so now I'm racist because I don't think people who came to this country ILLEGALLY should get citizenship for $500? A fucking littering fine costs more. And LOL at more penalties, they didn't enforce the current immigration laws on the books why in the fuck would they enforce more laws? It's amnesty and 11+ million more democratic votes. It's a fucking scam. Ship the ILLEGAL aliens back to where they're from. Secure the border like the Senate laid out, and tell them to to get in line like all other immigrants have done for years.

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao Wait, Boutons literally wants to reward criminals by selling them citizenship? How is that fair to the legal immigrants who busted their ass to do it the right way?

Stick to spamming articles, son, your own takes are retarded....

[boutons_deux]

:lmao Wait, Boutons literally wants to reward criminals by selling them citizenship? How is that fair to the legal immigrants who busted their ass to do it the right way?

Stick to spamming articles, son, your own takes are retarded....

CN, the undoc adults go to the end of the line, behind the visa applicants.

legal immigrants don't bust their ass, they pay many $1000s to visa gatekeepers, called lawyers.

btw, the House-constipating tea bagging turds killing imm reform also killed H1B, etc visa quota expansion.

[boutons_deux]

so now I'm racist because I don't think people who came to this country ILLEGALLY should get citizenship for $500? A fucking littering fine costs more. And LOL at more penalties, they didn't enforce the current immigration laws on the books why in the fuck would they enforce more laws? It's amnesty and 11+ million more democratic votes. It's a fucking scam. Ship the ILLEGAL aliens back to where they're from. Secure the border like the Senate laid out, and tell them to to get in line like all other immigrants have done for years.

they don't get citizenship, they get green cards, just like normal immigrants. it's all on this web page, go fucking read it.

[TheSanityAnnex]

they don't get citizenship, they get green cards, just like normal immigrants. it's all on this web page, go fucking read it.
Normal immigrants didn't commit crimes. It's clear you approve of rewarding criminals.

[Wild Cobra]

unlike WC, I don't pretend to be lawyer, so the above summary is Good Enough. Of course, House tea baggin xenophobic Repugs won't even bring it up (really, they are simply permitting their Repug benefactors want: allow Repug employers to keep exploiting low wage labor, underpaying, not paying, stealing wages, etc, etc.)
Like always, you allows others to tell you what to believe.

[Wild Cobra]

Typical Democratic move. More laws!

No shit.

Just how many different laws do we need to cover the same thing?

[ducks]

Why didn't you and Repugs WHINE and PISS about closing the border, why didn't y'all ACTUALLY DO IT, from 2001 to 2008?

How many $10Bs are you willing to spend to close the border that meets your requirements?
and how many $100Bs are you ready to spend it maintain such closure indefinitely?
what has this to do with 2014
fix the issue now quite blaming others and try to solve issue at hand
that is the problem with demacrats and republicans

[ducks]

secure the borders with guns that are loaded and shot to kill not injure and the boarders will be more secure but
this so called president watches nba every day and thinks borders are secure because they are in Washington dc but not on the borders

[ducks]

Why the surge in migrant children at border?

Why are so many children crossing now?

Gang violence in El Salvador and in urban areas of Guatemala has escalated dramatically in recent months since a weak truce among rival gangs has evaporated, said Elizabeth G. Kennedy, a Fulbright scholar reached Monday in San Salvador, the capital of El Salvador.

"Half of them are fleeing for their lives," she said.

Kennedy, investigating the causes of child migration, has interviewed more than 400 child migrants. For many, Kennedy said, "their decision is: Do I face possible death in migrating or sure death in staying?"

The gang violence "particularly affects youths," said Alison Ramirez, who works on a U.S.-funded violence-prevention project in El Salvador and who frequently visits Honduras and Guatemala.

"The gangs are in schools, neighborhoods. They're everywhere," she said. "Even if the kids don't want to be a part of it, they get caught up in the crossfire, extorted, threatened."

"The violence is one of the drivers in Honduras," said David Scott FitzGerald, associate director of the Center for Comparative Immigration Studies in California. "Just looking at the homicide rate, it has tripled in the last decade. It's the highest in the world for a country not at war."

Children from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador aren't just fleeing to the United States. Increasing numbers have been seeking asylum in Mexico, Costa Rica, Panama, Nicaragua and Belize, according to the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees. Kennedy and Ramirez agreed that most children who flee to the United States do so because they have family members here.

Can't the Border Patrol just stop them?

The short answer: No. While the U.S. government has spent more than $126 billion over the past nine years on border security and enforcement, much of the fencing and infrastructure was built in California, Arizona and western Texas, which were the major crossing areas over the past decade.

The Border Patrol has been moving increasing numbers of agents into the Rio Grande Valley Sector, but vast stretches of the river are easy to cross, and there is extensive vegetation along the banks that makes it easy to hide both before and after crossing.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2014/06/09/immigrant-children-arizona-border-answers/10246771/

Agent Orange was mentioned to kill the riparian vegetation, like Carrizo cane (arundo donax).


sorry the children in other countries are not the usa problems
the usa children have enough problems already

[m>s]

That is a lot of typing in a short amount of time. Has to be difficult to type all that while getting your shit pushed in by Toby. You must be inbetween appointments.
More litera.com/cuck copypasta

[Clipper Nation]

Normal immigrants didn't commit crimes. It's clear you approve of rewarding criminals.
Pretty clear that Boutons just wants to incentivize everyone to flood the border illegally, get citizenship the cheap and easy way, and then vote Democrat.... meanwhile, he whines and complains that the "Repugs" are guilty of voter fraud :lol

[boutons_deux]

Pretty clear that Boutons just wants to incentivize everyone to flood the border illegally, get citizenship the cheap and easy way, and then vote Democrat.... meanwhile, he whines and complains that the "Repugs" are guilty of voter fraud :lol

You Lie

Repugs don't do voter fraud, but voter suppression and insane gerrrymandering.

What's "incentivizing" many of these kids and juveniles to flee from the country to USA and OTHER COUNTRIES are the drug gangs financed by THE USA'S WAR ON DRUGS, in parallel with Ms of subsistence farmers being put of work by BigAg's NAFTA shipping cheap corn, etc to south of the US Border, which caused Ms to flee to US looking for work.

NAFTA also forced, eg MX, to stop subsidizing the subsistence farmers so they couldn't compete with US BigAg, while the US govt heavily subsidizes US BigAg and its exports.

That's right, the US War on Drugs and NAFTA have been and still are HUGE causes of the undoc immigrant invasion.

[Wild Cobra]

Pretty clear that Boutons just wants to incentivize everyone to flood the border illegally, get citizenship the cheap and easy way, and then vote Democrat.... meanwhile, he whines and complains that the "Repugs" are guilty of voter fraud :lol
Yep.

Easy to peg his sorry ass.

[Clipper Nation]

You Lie

Repugs don't do voter fraud, but voter suppression and insane gerrrymandering.

What's "incentivizing" many of these kids and juveniles to flee from the country to USA and OTHER COUNTRIES are the drug gangs financed by THE USA'S WAR ON DRUGS, in parallel with Ms of subsistence farmers being put of work by BigAg's NAFTA shipping cheap corn, etc to south of the US Border, which caused Ms to flee to US looking for work.

NAFTA also forced, eg MX, to stop subsidizing the subsistence farmers so they couldn't compete with US BigAg, while the US govt heavily subsidizes US BigAg and its exports.

That's right, the US War on Drugs and NAFTA have been and still are HUGE causes of the undoc immigrant invasion.
I agree that the War on Drugs is a major problem, but the solution is not to hand out citizenship to anyone who crosses the border illegally....

[boutons_deux]

hand out citizenship to anyone who crosses the border illegally....

who proposes, supports your straw man?

Even the Senate bill talks ONLY about Green card/legal residence after a VERY LONG period, NOT citizenship

[Winehole23]

Texas has no valid plan or purpose for its recently announced $1.3 million per week commitment to expanding state trooper patrols along the border, judging from statements by Attorney General and GOP gubernatorial nominee Greg Abbott. From the Houston Chronicle (http://www.chron.com/news/texas/article/Immigrant-surge-underscores-Texas-political-divide-5587870.php) (June 29):


Asked what a secure border might look like, Abbott said Sunday he didn't have a ready-made definition, but that achieving one was possible.


"If we can land people on the moon, if we can create iPhones and iPads," he said, "I think we can measure meaningful border security."

In other words, Greg Abbott doesn't know any more about how to secure the border than he knows about how to construct an iPhone or put a man on the moon.


So here we are: For the foreseeable future, Texas will spend $1.3 million more per week on border security than we did a month ago. But state leaders cannot identify an operational goal beyond meaningless platitudes (the goal is a "secure border" but Abbott can't define the term). And they cannot identify metrics to tell if the mission is a success or a failure (Abbott "thinks" it can be meaningfully measured but can't say how).


It's impossible to solve a problem one can neither define nor measure. Texas has spent hundreds of millions of dollars in recent years on similar border surges and by the state's own (often dubious (http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2011/10/lies-damn-lies-and-border-security.html)) account, problems worsened. So why throw good money after bad? Any project where the government a) cannot define its goal, b) cannot measure success, and c) has pledged tens of millions of tax dollars ($67.6 million per year) with no end in sight, by definition qualifies as a big-league boondoggle in my book.http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/

[TheSanityAnnex]

who proposes, supports your straw man?

Even the Senate bill talks ONLY about Green card/legal residence after a VERY LONG period, NOT citizenship

So where do you think these ILLEGAL ALIENS will be staying during this VERY LONG period? Surely not in the country they legally belong in but right here in the United States. Why are you excusing the ILLEGAL actions by 11+ million people?

[boutons_deux]

http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/

"If we can land people on the moon, if we can create iPhones and iPads," he said, "I think we can measure meaningful border security."

:lol :lol This asshole is nothing but your typical ignorant redneck.

so he's just going to MEASURE "meaningful" border security? Not ENFORCE it? :lol

[Th'Pusher]

So where do you think these ILLEGAL ALIENS will be staying during this VERY LONG period? Surely not in the country they legally belong in but right here in the United States. Why are you excusing the ILLEGAL actions by 11+ million people?

Why do you keep shifting the argument? Maybe you should read the senate bill. It might prevent you from having to flop around like a dying fish. Boutons has pretty much rebutted every assumption you made and now your argue net has been reduced to "why do you want to reward illegal activity".

What's your solution for finding and deporting all of the illegals currently in the country and how do you suggest that massive effort is paid for?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Why do you keep shifting the argument? Maybe you should read the senate bill. It might prevent you from having to flop around like a dying fish. Boutons has pretty much rebutted every assumption you made and now your argue net has been reduced to "why do you want to reward illegal activity".

What's your solution for finding and deporting all of the illegals currently in the country and how do you suggest that massive effort is paid for?
Do tell how my argument has shifted? Boutons supports the activity of these ILLEGAL aliens and wants to reward them with a $500 green card. It's an easy 11+ million votes for his party, he'd be stupid not too. His is also too cowardly to admit this.

[boutons_deux]

"Boutons supports the activity of these ILLEGAL aliens"

You Lie (not sure what "activity" is, but You Lie)

[TheSanityAnnex]

"Boutons supports the activity of these ILLEGAL aliens"

You Lie (not sure what "activity" is, but You Lie)





Do you believe they should be deported?

[boutons_deux]

Do you believe they should be deported?

no, they contribute to the economy by doing jobs Americans won't touch anymore. And they often have the hungary energy immigrants arrive with.

USA is long-time, fabricated country of immigrants and mongrels.

The Senate bill is an excellent start.

However, the border must be secured against further illegal entrants (it ain't possible, but whatever)

[TheSanityAnnex]

So you do support their illegal activity and also see it as beneficial to the United States.

[boutons_deux]

So you do support their illegal activity and also see it as beneficial to the United States.

goddam, you're stupid.

obviously, a main reason Repugs DID NOTHING about illegals from 2001 to 2008 was that Repug businessmen loved hard working, low-paid/no-paid illegals.

So now it's 100% on Obama to fix a decades-old undoc immigrant problem when House Repugs won't even allow the Senate bill on the floor.

I bet McLiar and Bishop Gecko would have done nothing about it, either.

[Wild Cobra]

"Boutons supports the activity of these ILLEGAL aliens"

You Lie (not sure what "activity" is, but You Lie)
No, it's obvious. You support illegal activities by the fact that you want to reward illegal immigration.

[TheSanityAnnex]

goddam, you're stupid.

obviously, a main reason Repugs DID NOTHING about illegals from 2001 to 2008 was that Repug businessmen loved hard working, low-paid/no-paid illegals.

So now it's 100% on Obama to fix a decades-old undoc immigrant problem when House Repugs won't even allow the Senate bill on the floor.

I bet McLiar and Bishop Gecko would have done nothing about it, either.how hard is it to answer my question? I asked if I was correctly understanding your position on the ILLEGAL aliens that are presently here ILLEGALLY, you dodged the question and in typical boutons fashion blamed repugs. And in blaming the repugs for wanting the ILLEGALS here for their labor you've basically sided with them as you yourself just said they were beneficial for their cheap labor.

Offering green cards for committing illegal acts against the United States for less than a littering ticket is not a solution, unless of course you are trying to buy votes.

I'm glad to see my fellow Californians are protesting and refusing passage of the bus loads of your Texas transferred ILLEGALS. You want them you can have them.

[boutons_deux]

So you do support their illegal activity and also see it as beneficial to the United States.

what illegal activity, specifically?

coming in illegally?

working the underground/black/for-cash economy (just like Ms of Americans do)

what?

yes, MANY studies have shown legalizing undoc immigrants would be a huge, long-term boost to the economy (and tax revenues)

[boutons_deux]

how hard is it to answer my question? I asked if I was correctly understanding your position on the ILLEGAL aliens that are presently here ILLEGALLY, you dodged the question and in typical boutons fashion blamed repugs. And in blaming the repugs for wanting the ILLEGALS here for their labor you've basically sided with them as you yourself just said they were beneficial for their cheap labor.

Offering green cards for committing illegal acts against the United States for less than a littering ticket is not a solution, unless of course you are trying to buy votes.

I'm glad to see my fellow Californians are protesting and refusing passage of the bus loads of your Texas transferred ILLEGALS. You want them you can have them.

So what's your "Final Solution" to undoc immigrants?

[Th'Pusher]

So what's your "Final Solution" to undoc immigrants?
He/they don't have one. They whine, "no amnesty", "enforce the existing laws". How do you find these 11million undocumented immigrants? Who pays for the effort to round these people up? Why can't the states do it?

[Infinite_limit]

Does this guy ever take responsibility for anything? All he's done is blame blame blame.
[First] Black President. Did you expect different?

[SupremeGuy]

In other news, thanks to these hard working, kind-hearted brown people who just want a chance at a better life, child slavery/prostitution and human trafficking across the border is at an all-time high. It's just part of their beautiful culture, tbh. Welcome to bouton's dream of America. A brown child prostitute on every corner, drugs as far as the eyes can see, rampant poverty, even more social programs, and a far left liberal in the White House. USA USA USmexico...

[Wild Cobra]

A brown child prostitute on every corner, drugs as far as the eyes can see, rampant poverty, even more social programs, and a far left liberal in the White House. USA USA USmexico...

Now I understand.

Boutons is their pimp!

[m>s]

He/they don't have one. They whine, "no amnesty", "enforce the existing laws". How do you find these 11million undocumented immigrants? Who pays for the effort to round these people up? Why can't the states do it?
They're not allowed to by the Feds. Any time they try to crack down it goes to court and gets shot down.

[Wild Cobra]

They're not allowed to by the Feds. Any time they try to crack down it goes to court and gets shot down.
That's why we need to step up cracking down on those who employ them.

If they can't find work, they will self deport.

[boutons_deux]

So what's your "Final Solution" to undoc immigrants?

Pusher said what we all know.

Undoc immigrants are exclusively a wedge/political/campaign/rabble-rousing "problem" the Repgus have absolutely no interest in solving, or even addressing (no vote in the House, NO alternatives to Senate bill), appealing to the racism, xenophobia, and all the nasty shit that rouses the right wing.

[TDMVPDPOY]

why not shoot them?

[m>s]

why not shoot them?
If any of these clowns had a patriotic bone in their body that's what they would do to an invader

[Wild Cobra]

why not shoot them?

You put high powered rifles in a mounted area, with fixed areas of coverage. You have a bullet dispenser credit card driven. I'm sure someone could make a killing!

[boutons_deux]

as we expected, right-wingers have NO suggestions to fix the undoc immigrant problem.

Keep pissing and moaning, it's very useful.

[Clipper Nation]

As expected, Boutons has nothing but excuses and coddling for criminals in the hope of more Dem votes :lol

[boutons_deux]

As expected, Boutons has nothing but excuses and coddling for criminals in the hope of more Dem votes :lol

excellent, I'll tell Barry to get right on your Final Solution.

[HI-FI]

good to know Boutons and Murdoch/corporations are on the same page. I'd support the illegal bean3rs if they can take Bouton's astroturfing job for less pay. there are lots of shills on here, let's give these bean3rs the opportunity they can't get in their own country. do it MitchSoros.:hungry:

[boutons_deux]

good to know Boutons and Murdoch/corporations are on the same page. I'd support the illegal bean3rs if they can take Bouton's astroturfing job for less pay. there are lots of shills on here, let's give these bean3rs the opportunity they can't get in their own country. do it MitchSoros.:hungry:

another EXCELLENT Final Solution.

[m>s]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

round them up and deport, it worked before and it will work today

then militarize the border and shoot anything that crosses

[TheSanityAnnex]

Just saw a local news segment covering the Murrieta immigration protests. Some pro-amnesty protesters also showed up and burned an American flag. Fuck them and fuck all who support them. Fuck you boutons.










We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.




Article. I.
Section. 1.


All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.


To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;


To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;


The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.


To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;


To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

[SupremeGuy]

What a surprise, the pro-amnesty loons are burning American flags. If they hate American so much, they should leave the country along with their illegal friends.

[boutons_deux]

So what's your "Final Solution" to undoc immigrants?

[Wild Cobra]

So what's your "Final Solution" to undoc immigrants?



Put employers in jail who hire them. That will make employers think twice... No EBT card benefits for the illegals either. Offer a free ride home. The undocumented worker will self deport.

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

round them up and deport, it worked before and it will work today

then militarize the border and shoot anything that crosses
Final solution.

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/05/border-meltdown-obama-delivering-290000-illegals-to-u-s-homes/?fromt=yes

Your tax dollars at work

[TheSanityAnnex]

And LOL at boutons using "undocumented immigrants" and refusing to call them exactly what they are, illegal immigrants. You're a traitorous sympathizer, it's disgusting.

[Clipper Nation]

And LOL at boutons using "undocumented immigrants" and refusing to call them exactly what they are, illegal immigrants. You're a traitorous sympathizer, it's disgusting.
At least he didn't go full libtard and call them "migrant workers" :lol

[boutons_deux]

So what's your "Final Solution" for illegal immigrants?



btw, NO FRICKING RUSH, take your time, Orange Boner said no imm reform in the House, constipated with Kock-Bros tea bagger turds, in 2014.

aka, Repug reachout to Hispanics.

[boutons_deux]

Final solution.

Will never happen outside of all y'all's xenophobic, murderous, white-supremacist fantasies.

So what's your "Final Solution" to undoc immigrants?

[TheSanityAnnex]

There is nothing racist about returning illegal aliens to their home countries.

[boutons_deux]

There is nothing racist about returning illegal aliens to their home countries.

So what's your "Final Solution" for illegal immigrants?

you right-wingers really GOT NOTHIN! :lol

[m>s]

So what's your "Final Solution" for illegal immigrants?

you right-wingers really GOT NOTHIN! :lol
repatriate them

FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

[Gummi Clutch]

repatriate them

FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
m>s, are you the same poster known as mavs > spurs and mavs >spurs2?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Your tax dollars at work again.

Feds bringing in riot police for protestors in Murrieta,CA when these same men could be put to use securing the border.

[Clipper Nation]

Your tax dollars at work again.

Feds bringing in riot police for protestors in Murrieta,CA when these same men could be put to use securing the border.

Boutons will just deflect and ask for everyone's solution to "undoc immigrants" even though it's been posted several times already....

[boutons_deux]

Boutons will just deflect and ask for everyone's solution to "undoc immigrants" even though it's been posted several times already....

So what's your "Final Solution" for illegal immigrants?

Closing the border HERMETICALLY (impossible, ask the Border Patrol) does nothing about the 10M+ ILLEGAL immigrants.

So what's your "Final Solution" for illegal immigrants?

[m>s]

So what's your "Final Solution" for illegal immigrants?

Closing the border HERMETICALLY (impossible, ask the Border Patrol) does nothing about the 10M+ ILLEGAL immigrants.

So what's your "Final Solution" for illegal immigrants?





lol most advanced military on earth not being able to secure its own borders

you're an idiot

let's meet up and throw down

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/24/judge-administration-cant-refuse-arrest-illegals/

Another Obama smack down from the courts.

[Winehole23]

what about sheriffs refusing? that's happening too.

[Winehole23]

this is not such a big deal y'all. you ought to be pissed about the Ronald Reagan amnesty. puts this one in the shade, tbh.

[boutons_deux]

what about sheriffs refusing? that's happening too.

Fearing Lawsuits, Sheriffs Balk at U.S. Request to Hold Noncitizens for Extra Time

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/06/us/politics/fearing-lawsuits-sheriffs-balk-at-us-request-to-detain-noncitizens-for-extra-time.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

[boutons_deux]

Immigrant Surge Rooted in Law to Curb Child Trafficking

It was one of the final pieces of legislation signed into law by President George W. Bush (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/george_w_bush/index.html?inline=nyt-per), a measure that passed without controversy, along with a pension bill and another one calling for national parks to be commemorated on quarters.

“This is a piece of legislation we’re very proud to sign,” a White House spokesman, Tony Fratto, told reporters (http://iipdigital.usembassy.gov/st/english/texttrans/2008/12/20081223151231bpuh0.1773645.html#axzz36pPxBaR6) on Dec. 23, 2008, as the president put his pen to theWilliam Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008 (http://www.state.gov/j/tip/laws/113178.htm), named for a 19th-century British abolitionist. “This program has been very effective around the world in trying to stop trafficking in persons.”

Now the legislation, enacted quietly during the transition to the Obama administration, is at the root of the potentially calamitous flow of unaccompanied minors to the nation’s southern border.

Originally pushed by a bipartisan coalition of lawmakers as well as by evangelical groups to combat sex trafficking, the bill gave substantial new protections to children entering the country alone who were not from Mexico or Canada by prohibiting them from being quickly sent back to their country of origin.

http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/07/08/us/JP-IMMIG1/JP-IMMIG1-articleInline.jpg (http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/07/08/us/immigrant-surge-rooted-in-law-to-curb-child-trafficking.html?_r=1#modal-lightbox)President George W. Bush signing the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008.
(http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/07/08/us/immigrant-surge-rooted-in-law-to-curb-child-trafficking.html?_r=1#modal-lightbox)
Instead, it required that they be given an opportunity to appear at an immigration hearing and consult with an advocate, and it recommended that they have access to counsel. It also required that they be turned over to the care of the Department of Health and Human Services, and the agency was directed to place the minor “in the least restrictive setting that is in the best interest of the child” and to explore reuniting those children with family members.

The Obama administration says the law is partly responsible for tying its hands in dealing with the current influx of children. Officials have suggested that the White House might seek flexibility in the law’s requirements when it asks Congress to provide emergency funds to contend with the latest immigration crisis, a request that could come as early as Tuesday.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/07/08/us/immigrant-surge-rooted-in-law-to-curb-child-trafficking.html?_r=1

Thanks, dubya!

Repugs blame Obama for implementing dubya's withdrawal from Iraq,

now they blame him for enforcing dubya's child trafficking law,

ALWAYS counting on the ignorance and stupidity of the rabble they love to rouse against The Negro.

[Winehole23]

A slew of anti-government groups -- many of which participated in the standoff at Cliven Bundy's Nevada ranch -- are recruiting armed volunteers to travel to the Texas-Mexico border as a citizen militia to participate in "Operation Secure Our Border," which aims to stop the surge of immigrants into the country.

The groups, who identify themselves as "Patriots," "Oathkeepers" and "Three Percenters (https://www.facebook.com/ThreePercenters)," are using social media, blogs and a 24-hour hotline to recruit and mobilize volunteers that will travel to Laredo, carry firearms and attempt to assist law enforcement agencies on the border.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Anti-government-citizen-militia-groups-want-to-5604303.php

[Winehole23]

The group will secure the border in a "legal and lawful manner," Davis said. However, a 21-minute YouTube video of Davis, which was first reported by the McAllen Monitor (http://www.themonitor.com/news/immigration/militia-group-puts-out-call-for-patriots-to-come-and/article_bd936d60-03ed-11e4-979d-0017a43b2370.html), suggests otherwise.


"How?" Davis asked on the video. "You see an illegal. You point your gun dead at him, right between his eyes, and you say, 'Get back across the border or you will be shot.'"


Davis said he removed the video Monday because it was taken out of context "by a newspaper that supports amnesty."

same

[Winehole23]

furiously backpedaling:


"If we come across a family that may have made it across the border, we will give them water and food and make contact with ICE or Border Patrol and tell them we have these people here," Davis told the San Antonio Express-News.

[boutons_deux]

secure the border in a "legal and lawful manner," :lol

self-annointed militiamen policing the border is legal, lawful? :lol

no doubt, the govt border agents will love to see these hyper-patriotic A Few Good Men keeping America safe from children.

[Winehole23]

http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/videos/nx3ix1/stephen-colbert-s-bats--t-serious---child-immigrant-intrigue---john-burnett (http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/videos/nx3ix1/stephen-colbert-s-bats--t-serious---child-immigrant-intrigue---john-burnett?xrs=playershare_fbshare)

[HI-FI]

this is turning into a massive clusterfuck for Obama. this is like his Fast and the Furious 2, maybe the media will go back to explore the original. most likely not.

least people are realizing how bad this situation is. I realize the Democrats want to overload the system and country to obtain power, but this could backfire imo.

[Big Empty]

What are the stats on illegal aliens? exactly how much do they cost the country in tax dollars and on the flipside, does it hurt the economy or help it any? There will never be a way to prevent people from trying to live a better life or find better place to live. But the only solution is to make it more dificult to get benefits and to beef up the border patrol to limit the number of aliens coming into the country. if you ask me, if someone with nothing can come into your country, learn your language and take your job, you should be the ones deported. The real american jobs being taken are all them outsourcing jobs that go to india. thats where just as much outrage should be directed to. a republican corporate border fence.

[boutons_deux]

this is turning into a massive clusterfuck for Obama. this is like his Fast and the Furious 2, maybe the media will go back to explore the original. most likely not.

least people are realizing how bad this situation is. I realize the Democrats want to overload the system and country to obtain power, but this could backfire imo.

you wish

F&F did nothing to Obama, was just yet another Repug/Fox fabricated scandal and outrage.

Obama didn't cause the kids to come, but he MUST obey dubya/Repug/bipartisan LAW of several years ago NOT to deport the kids immediately. IT'S THE LAW.

You right wingers are so fucked up in your ideological/political fantasy land.

[HI-FI]

you wish

F&F did nothing to Obama, was just yet another Repug/Fox fabricated scandal and outrage.

Obama didn't cause the kids to come, but he MUST obey dubya/Repug/bipartisan LAW of several years ago NOT to deport the kids immediately. IT'S THE LAW.

You right wingers are so fucked up in your ideological/political fantasy land.
:lol
you're such a fascist faggot tbh.

[boutons_deux]

Texas Democrats Say GOP Stalling Aided Immigrant Influx


Border Democrats are pushing back against GOP colleagues in the U.S. House who have said that current White House policies are responsible for the swell of Central American migrants breaching the Texas border.

The Democratic lawmakers argue that a bipartisan border security bill by Texas Republican U.S. Rep. Michael McCaul (http://www.texastribune.org/directory/michael-mccaul/) has languished for months due to political infighting and partisan gridlock in the GOP-controlled U.S. House. McCaul and other Republicans, however, contend that the immigration reform debate stalled the legislation, and that the influx of immigrants won't stop until the federal government begins sending illegal crossers home.

“The Homeland Security Committee passed the McCaul-Thompson legislation 14 months ago, but the majority leader has failed to bring the bill to the House floor for a vote,” said U.S. Rep. Filemon Vela (http://www.texastribune.org/directory/filemon-vela/), D-Brownsville, referring to McCaul's HR 1417.

McCaul is chairman of the committee, which unanimously approved the legislation in May 2013. U.S. Reps. Lamar Smith (http://www.texastribune.org/directory/lamar-smith/), R-San Antonio; Beto O’Rourke (http://www.texastribune.org/directory/beto-orourke/), D-El Paso; and Sheila Jackson Lee (http://www.texastribune.org/directory/sheila-jackson-lee/), D-Houston, are also on the committee, along with Vela.

If passed, the bill would establish a goal of a 90 percent apprehension rate at the border. It would also require the Department of Homeland Security to create metrics to measure progress and would increase the technology the government uses on the U.S.-Mexico border.

http://www.texastribune.org/2014/07/09/texas-democrats-say-gop-stalling-aided-immigrant-i/

[Nbadan]

Drug wars fuel Mexico's hidden displacement crisis -rights group
Thomson Reuters Foundation - Wed, 2 Jul 2014 11:11 GMT
Author: Katie Nguyen


LONDON (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Hundreds of thousands of Mexicans have been forced to flee their homes by drug-trafficking groups in a "hidden humanitarian crisis" the authorities have not publicly acknowledged, a U.S.-based advocacy group said on Wednesday.

Refugees International said entire rural communities had been run off their ranches by organised criminal gangs wanting to seize their land.

Many families have experienced extortion, kidnapping and killings, often fleeing to cities where they are at risk of further violence stemming from the military's war against organised crime.

"Despite the fact that Mexico has multiple mechanisms in place to assist IDPs (internally displaced persons) in specific circumstances, the federal government has not demonstrated willingness to fully admit to and robustly support those displaced by organised criminal groups," RI said in its report.

Mexican officials were not immediately available for comment.

http://www.trust.org/item/20140702111150-up1iv?utm_source=MailingList&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Weekly+9+July+2014

stories about the drug cartels make me think many of these Mexican "illegal aliens" that cross the boarder are really refugees.

[Nbadan]

Just the facts...

Debunking 8 Myths About Why Central American Children Are Migrating


There is no “lax enforcement” on the U.S./Mexico border. There are over 20,000 Border Patrol Agents; that number was as low as 9,800 in 2001. We have walls and a system of large, centralized detention centers that didn't exist just 15 years ago. Now more than 350,000 people spend some time in an immigrant detention center every year. The U.S. spends more on immigration enforcement than all other enforcement activities of the federal government combined, including the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. The growing numbers of people in detention—young people as well as families and adults— is being used as a pretext by the anti-immigrant lobby in Washington, including the Tea Party and the Border Patrol itself, for demanding increases in the budget for enforcement. The Obama administration has given way before this pressure.

http://inthesetimes.com/article/16919/8_reasons_u.s._trade_and_immigration_policies_have _caused_migration_from_ce

[Nbadan]

The migration of children and families didn’t just start recently. It has been going on for a long time, although the numbers have recently surged. The tide of migration from Central America goes back to wars that the U.S. promoted in the 1980s, in which we armed the forces, governments or contras, who were most opposed to progressive social change. Many hundreds of thousands of Salvadorans came to the U.S. during the late 1970s and 80s, to say nothing of Guatemalans and Nicaraguans. Whole families migrated, but so did parts of families, leaving loved ones behind with the hope that some day they'd be reunited.

[Nbadan]

The recent increase in the numbers of child migrants is not just a response to gang violence, although this is the most-cited cause in U.S. media coverage. Migration is as much or more a consequence of the increasing economic crisis for rural people in Central America and Mexico, as well as the failure of those economies to produce jobs. People are leaving because they can't survive where they are.

[Nbadan]

The failure of Central America's economies is largely due to the North American and Central American Free Trade Agreements and their accompanying economic changes, including privatization of businesses, the displacement of communities by foreign mining projects and cuts in the social budget. The treaties allowed huge U.S. corporations to dump corn and other agricultural products in Mexico and Central America, forcing rural families off their lands when they could not compete.

[Nbadan]

When governments or people have resisted NAFTA and CAFTA, the United States has threatened reprisal. Right-wing Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.) put forward a measure to cut off the flow of remittances (money sent back to Salvadoran families from family members working in the U.S.) if the leftwing party, the FMLN, won the 2004 presidential election. His bill did not pass, but the U.S. Embassy in San Salvador admitted that it had intervened. In 2009, the Honduran army overthrew President Manuel Zelaya after he raised the minimum wage, gave subsidies to small farmers, cut interest rates and instituted free education. The Obama administration gave a de facto approval to the coup regime that followed. If social and political change had taken place in Honduras, we would see far fewer Hondurans trying to come to the U.S.

[Nbadan]

Gang violence in Central America has a U.S. origin. Over the past two decades, young people from Central America have arrived in L.A. and big U.S. cities, where many were recruited into gangs, a story eloquently told by photographer Donna DeCesare in the recent book Unsettled/Desasociego: Children in the World of Gangs. The Maratrucha Salvadoreña gang, which today's newspaper stories hold responsible for the violence driving people from El Salvador, was organized in Los Angeles, not in Central America. U.S. law enforcement and immigration authorities responded to the rise of gang activity here with a huge program of deportations. The U.S. has been deporting approximately 400,000 people per year since 2009.

[Nbadan]

Moreover, U.S. foreign policy in Central America has actively led to the growth of gang violence there. In El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, U.S. law enforcement assistance pressured local law enforcement to adopt a mano dura, or hardline, approach to gang members, leading to the incarceration of many young people deported from the U.S. almost as soon as they arrived. Prisons became schools for gang recruitment. Even in El Salvador—where the leftwing FMLN government at least has a commitment to a policy of jobs and economic development to take young people off the street and to provide an alternative to migration—conservative police and military forces continue to support heavy enforcement. In Guatemala and Honduras, the U.S. is supporting very rightwing governments that only use a harsh enforcement approach. Hypocritically, while punishing deportees and condemning migration, these two governments actually use the migration of people to the U.S. as a source of remittances to keep their economies afloat.

[Nbadan]

Kids looking for families here are looking for those who were already displaced by war and economic crisis. The separation of families is a cause of much of the current migration of young people. Young people fleeing the violence are reacting to the consequences of policies for which the U.S. government is largely responsible, in the only way open to them.

Two and three years ago we were hearing from the Pew Hispanic Trust and other sources that migration had “leveled off.” No one is bothering to claim that anymore. Migration hasn't stopped because the forces causing it are more powerful than ever.

More enforcement will not deal with the causes of the migration from Central America. In fact, the deportation of more people back to their countries of origin will increase joblessness and economic desperation—the main factors causing people to leave. Violence, which feeds on that desperation, will increase as well.

[boutons_deux]

kids say in interviews that if they are deported, they will try again, just like the older immigrants looking for work have done for years.

and STILL the right-wingers here, or anywhere, have not given any solution to the problem.

[TE]

I'd welcome these militias down here.

:lmao at
"There's nothing that is taking place down there that I am not intimately aware of and briefed on. This isn't theater. This is a problem," he said.

On another note, another classic Perry gem:
Governor Rick Perry suggested that President Barack Obama could be leading a conspiracy to bring immigrants into the country. "We either have an incredibly inept administration, or they're in on this somehow," Perry said in an interview with ABC (http://www.texastribune.org/2014/07/06/video-perry-talks-border-security-on-abc-news/?utm_source=texastribune.org&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=Tribune%20Feed:%20Main%20Feed). "I mean, I hate to be conspiratorial, but I mean, how do you move that many people from Central America across Mexico and then into the United States without there being a fairly coordinated effort?"
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Anti-government-citizen-militia-groups-want-to-5604303.php

[boutons_deux]

So who wants to argue with Jesus?

(TEXAS) Pastor Robert Jeffress tells Fox: Jesus would have wanted a border fence

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/fox_ff_jeffress_140710a-615x345.jpg

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/10/pastor-robert-jeffress-tells-fox-jesus-would-have-wanted-a-border-fence/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Jesus for House Repug Leader!

Jesus for Senate Repug Leader!

Jesus for the Supreme Court!

Jesus for President!!!!

Jesus turns Christians' brains to dog shit.

[Wild Cobra]

So who wants to argue with Jesus?

(TEXAS) Pastor Robert Jeffress tells Fox: Jesus would have wanted a border fence

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/fox_ff_jeffress_140710a-615x345.jpg

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/10/pastor-robert-jeffress-tells-fox-jesus-would-have-wanted-a-border-fence/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Jesus for House Repug Leader!

Jesus for Senate Repug Leader!

Jesus for the Supreme Court!

Jesus for President!!!!

Jesus turns Christians' brains to dog shit.
Your bigotry against Christians is showing...

[boutons_deux]

Your bigotry against Christians is showing...

... Christians' bigotry toward and bogus, self-proclaimed supremacy over non-Christians is fucking up America.

[boutons_deux]

here's a "solution" many of you right-wingers support

Bundy-Style Militia Leader In Texas: ‘Get Back … Or You Will Be Shot’

An activist who is rallying a Bundy Ranch-style militia to the Texas border to address the ongoing crisis there reportedly released a YouTube video in which he said those crossing illegally would be warned: "Get back across the border or you will be shot."

Operation Secure Our Border, with its own Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Operation-Secure-Our-Border-Op-SOB-Media-Page/300482086800029), is being organized by members of the "Patriot" movement along with Oathkeepers and Three-Percenters, according to the San Antonio Express News (http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Anti-government-citizen-militia-groups-want-to-5604303.php). Those are some of the same militia groups that came to Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy's defense earlier this year.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/chris-davis-texas-militia-border-youtube?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

[TheSanityAnnex]

here's a "solution" many of you right-wingers support

Bundy-Style Militia Leader In Texas: ‘Get Back … Or You Will Be Shot’

An activist who is rallying a Bundy Ranch-style militia to the Texas border to address the ongoing crisis there reportedly released a YouTube video in which he said those crossing illegally would be warned: "Get back across the border or you will be shot."

Operation Secure Our Border, with its own Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Operation-Secure-Our-Border-Op-SOB-Media-Page/300482086800029), is being organized by members of the "Patriot" movement along with Oathkeepers and Three-Percenters, according to the San Antonio Express News (http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Anti-government-citizen-militia-groups-want-to-5604303.php). Those are some of the same militia groups that came to Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy's defense earlier this year.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/chris-davis-texas-militia-border-youtube?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29



They were pretty successful at Bundy's ranch, maybe they'll see success again.

[boutons_deux]

They were pretty successful at Bundy's ranch, maybe they'll see success again.

yeah, murder a few kids, huge success

[boutons_deux]

They were pretty successful at Bundy's ranch, maybe they'll see success again.

Bundy and his butthole gun fellators have the sheriff and Feds after them. They'll regret their little fun times at Bundy's ranch.

[TheSanityAnnex]

yeah, murder a few kids, huge successNot a single shot fired during the Bundy standoff.

[boutons_deux]

Not a single shot fired during the Bundy standoff.

threatening violence against state, federal employees for political objectives is terrorism.

They could be fucked if the prosecutors want to. PLENTY of photos and film

[m>s]

The terrorists are the bastards in office!!!!! Fuck communism!!!!fuck cultural Marxism!!!!! We WAR NOW!!!!

[m>s]

Quick comrades, distribute the fucking rope!!!

[Winehole23]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/08/we-must-open-our-hearts-glenn-beck-announces-major-border-event-in-texas/

[cantthinkofanything]

"Ronald Reagan passed immigration reform, and you love Ronald Reagan,' he vented at the GOP. 'Let’s go ahead and do it."

This is the logic he uses? My 13 year old does better.

[Winehole23]

As immigration from Mexico has been falling, migration from other countries has continued to rise. In the past five years, the number of new immigrants (those in the country less than a year) from China has risen 37 percent, to more than 70,000. Immigration from India and other Asian countries is also increasing, though at a more modest rate.


As a result, Asia has surpassed Latin America as the dominant source of new immigrants to the U.S. Asia accounted for 45 percent of all new immigrants in 2012, compared to 34 percent for Latin America. Mexico is still the largest single country of origin for new immigrants, but its lead is shrinking fast: Mexico accounts for 14 percent of all new immigrants, down from 45 percent in 2000. India, meanwhile, now accounts for 12 percent, and China for 10 percent.3 (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/immigration-is-changing-much-more-than-the-immigration-debate/#fn-3)

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/immigration-is-changing-much-more-than-the-immigration-debate/

[pgardn]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/08/we-must-open-our-hearts-glenn-beck-announces-major-border-event-in-texas/

He literally is all over the place...

[Wild Cobra]

"Ronald Reagan passed immigration reform, and you love Ronald Reagan,' he vented at the GOP. 'Let’s go ahead and do it."

This is the logic he uses? My 13 year old does better.



Well, those of us on the right at least admit and learn from past mistakes.

[pgardn]

Well, those of us on the right at least admit and learn from past mistakes.

Not you.

Mistakes are constant and water off a ducks back.
Have you no shame?

[pgardn]

Not a single shot fired during the Bundy standoff.

Nah, but a few of your environmentally produced gun enthusiasts went and shot cops later on.
Not boyz from the hood friend.

[boutons_deux]

Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) argued on Sunday that his plan to deploy the National Guard, and to deport thousands of refugee children back to their countries as quickly as possible was “the most humanitarian thing we can do.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/13/rick-perry-deporting-refugee-kids-as-quickly-as-possible-is-the-most-humanitarian-thing/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

RickyBobby "logic" :lol

Thanks, all y'all redneck, bubba, shit-kicker, good ol' boys, Christian Texans!

ain't no wetbacks gonna "Mess With Texas"

[m>s]

http://i.imgur.com/Wjag459.jpg

[boutons_deux]

Human Blowback from US Interventions

The flight of Central American children north to the U.S. border is another form of blowback from decades of U.S. refusal to permit reformist governments in the region, including the State Department’s support for a 2009 coup ousting Honduran President Zelaya, writes William Blum at Anti-Empire Report.

By William Blum

The number of children attempting to cross the Mexican border into the United States has risen dramatically in the last five years: In fiscal year 2009 (Oct. 1, 2009 – Sept. 30, 2010) about 6,000 unaccompanied minors were detained near the border. The U.S. Department of Homeland Security estimates for the fiscal year 2014 the detention of as many as 74,000 unaccompanied minors.

Approximately 28 percent of the children detained this year are from Honduras, 24 percent from Guatemala, and 21 percent from El Salvador. The particularly severe increases in Honduran migration are a direct result of the June 28, 2009 military coup that overthrew the democratically-elected president, Manuel Zelaya, after he did things like raising the minimum wage, giving subsidies to small farmers, and instituting free education.


The coup – like so many others in Latin America – was led by a graduate of Washington’s infamous School of the Americas.

As per the standard Western Hemisphere script, the Honduran coup was followed by the abusive policies of the new regime, loyally supported by the United States. The State Department was virtually alone in the Western Hemisphere in not unequivocally condemning the Honduran coup.

Indeed, the Obama administration has refused to call it a coup, which, under American law, would tie Washington’s hands as to the amount of support it could give the coup government. This denial of reality still persists even though a U.S. embassy cable released by Wikileaks in 2010 declared: “There is no doubt that the military, Supreme Court and National Congress conspired on June 28 [2009] in what constituted an illegal and unconstitutional coup against the Executive Branch.”

Washington’s support of the far-right Honduran government has been unwavering ever since.

The questions concerning immigration into the United States from south of the border go on year after year, with the same issues argued back and forth: What’s the best way to block the flow into the country? How shall we punish those caught here illegally? Should we separate families, which happens when parents are deported but their American-born children remain?

Should the police and various other institutions have the right to ask for proof of legal residence from anyone they suspect of being here illegally? Should we punish employers who hire illegal immigrants? Should we grant amnesty to at least some of the immigrants already here for years? … on and on, round and round it goes, decade after decade.
Those in the U.S. generally opposed to immigration make it a point to declare that the United States does not have any moral obligation to take in these Latino immigrants. But the counter-argument to this last point is almost never mentioned: Yes,

the United States does indeed have a moral obligation because so many of the immigrants are escaping a situation in their homeland made hopeless by American intervention and policy.

In addition to Honduras, Washington overthrew progressive governments which were sincerely committed to fighting poverty in Guatemala and Nicaragua; while in El Salvador the U.S. played a major role in suppressing a movement striving to install such a government.

And in Mexico, though Washington has not intervened militarily since 1919, over the years the U.S. has been providing training, arms and surveillance technology to Mexico’s police and armed forces to better their ability to suppress their own people’s aspirations, as in Chiapas, and this has added to the influx of the oppressed to the United States, irony notwithstanding.

Moreover, Washington’s North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), has brought a flood of cheap, subsidized U.S. agricultural products into Mexico, ravaging campesino communities and driving many Mexican farmers off the land when they couldn’t compete with the giant from the north. The subsequent Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) has brought the same joys to the people of that area.

These “free trade” agreements – as they do all over the world – also result in government enterprises being privatized, the regulation of corporations being reduced, and cuts to the social budget. Add to this the displacement of communities by foreign mining projects and the drastic U.S.-led militarization of the War on Drugs with accompanying violence and you have the perfect storm of suffering followed by the attempt to escape from suffering.

It’s not that all these people prefer to live in the United States. They’d much rather remain with their families and friends, be able to speak their native language at all times, and avoid the hardships imposed on them by American police and other right-wingers.

http://consortiumnews.com/2014/07/13/human-blowback-from-us-interventions/

[boutons_deux]

Borderline Behavior: GOP Demands Action, Blocks Solutions, and Always Complains

Listening to Republicans in Washington (and Texas and Arizona) scream about the "crisis" of migrant children arriving from Central America on our southern border, it is puzzling to realize

they don't actually want to do anything to solve the problem.

Nor do these hysterical politicians -- led by that down-home diva Rick Perry, the governor of Texas -- want to let President Barack Obama do anything, either.

When they aren't bleating about Obama, they're concocting weird theories about his secret plans to destroy America. Only last week, Perry coyly hinted -- although he said he didn't want to be "conspiratorial" -- that the White House must be "in on" the border crossings, because migrant kids couldn't have showed up en masse without "a highly coordinated effort." Later, he tried to persuade CNN's Kate Bolduan that he didn't really mean what his idiotic words said -- an explanation everyone has heard from him before.

While Perry has taken the lead, he isn't the only elected official whose mouth spews absurdities on this subject. Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., offered a policy approach that would please any simpleton, when he explained why the president's request for $3.7 billion in emergency funding looks far too big to him. "I've gone online and have taken a look on Orbitz and taken a look at what does it cost to fly people to El Salvador and Guatemala and Honduras. You have fares as low as $207. There's nonstop flights at $450. You take those numbers and it costs somewhere between $11 million and $30 million to return people in a very humane fashion," he opined.

Evidently nobody informed the Wisconsin senator about the myriad other costs involved in rounding up and caring for these terrified children, who are entitled to a court hearing and other consideration under an anti-trafficking law signed by former President George W. Bush. Anyone who wants to expedite their removal -- a disturbingly inhumane and unnecessary policy -- must first provide more courts, judges and lawyers. And anyone who wants a decent policy, which includes action against the drug warlords who are threatening and killing these innocents, must be prepared to spend more than the cost of an Orbitz ticket.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/borderline-behavior-gop-demands-action-blocks-solutions-and-always-complains?akid=12016.187590.6XtaM2&rd=1&src=newsletter1011288&t=21

RickyBobby :lol

all y'all redneck TX assholes who re-elected him, and uber asshole Cruz.

[Winehole23]

solving the problem would deprive the GOP of a brickbat to throw at the president. and we couldn't have that.

[Winehole23]

the plot to swell Democrat voter rolls and drive down wages for the white man gets even more Byzantine:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/u-s-begins-deporting-central-american-migrants-under-fast-track-program-1.2707077

[Nbadan]

Poll: Obama, Republicans face broad disapproval over handling of child refugee crisis


A new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds widespread public disapproval of the way President Obama and Republicans in Congress are handling the influx of unaccompanied foreign children at the southern border as the two sides engage in a fierce debate over how to stem the crisis.

Nearly 6 out of 10 Americans are not happy with Obama’s performance in dealing with the tens of thousands of minors who have arrived from Central America in recent months, overwhelming Border Patrol stations. All told, 58 percent disapprove of his management on the issue, including 54 percent of Latinos.

But as with many other hot-button issues, congressional Republicans fare even worse in the court of public opinion, with 66 percent disapproving of the job GOP lawmakers have done to address the crisis. Almost as many Republicans disapprove of their party’s handling of the issue as approve, with negative ratings rising to a majority among conservatives.

Despite Obama’s deeply negative ratings on addressing the problem, a narrow 53 percent supports his request last week for $3.7 billion in emergency funding to help provide services for the children and to speed up deportations. The proposal, which was described in detail by the survey, was opposed by 43 percent, although just as many oppose the idea “strongly” as passionately support it.


read: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/poll-obama-republicans-face-broad-disapproval-over-handling-of-migrant-crisis/2014/07/14/3c2a1bcc-0b8e-11e4-b8e5-d0de80767fc2_story.html

[boutons_deux]

American serfs think the President is a divine-right, all powerful King Daddy, not "checked and balanced" by the Constitution.

House Repugs, they control spending, have done NOTHING about the VA, done NOTHING about the border humanitarian crisis.

Obama's $3.7B "opposed by 43 percent,"? :lol

[boutons_deux]

Texas photographer captures faithful dog's last day

SAN ANTONIO -- It's always tough having to say goodbye to a loved one, but a Texas photographer's split-second decision to chronicle the last day of her friend's dog broke down the Internet, literally, with condolences from thousands.



Within days after posting the story about a black Labrador named Duke on her website (http://www.robynarouty.com/dukey-broke-the-internet/), Houston photographer Robin Arouty, had more than 100,000 visits, the story was shared thousands of times from both her blog and her Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/robyn.arouty.photography). Even her website had malfunctions because of the high traffic.

Last week the Roberts family had to say farewell to Duke, their loyal black Labrador who was diagnosed with bone cancer a few years back had to be euthanized by her owner, Jordan Roberts, a close friend of Roberts.

http://m.sfgate.com/news/local/article/Texas-photographer-captures-dog-s-last-day-5620564.php

[cantthinkofanything]

Texas photographer captures faithful dog's last day

SAN ANTONIO -- It's always tough having to say goodbye to a loved one, but a Texas photographer's split-second decision to chronicle the last day of her friend's dog broke down the Internet, literally, with condolences from thousands.



Within days after posting the story about a black Labrador named Duke on her website (http://www.robynarouty.com/dukey-broke-the-internet/), Houston photographer Robin Arouty, had more than 100,000 visits, the story was shared thousands of times from both her blog and her Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/robyn.arouty.photography). Even her website had malfunctions because of the high traffic.

Last week the Roberts family had to say farewell to Duke, their loyal black Labrador who was diagnosed with bone cancer a few years back had to be euthanized by her owner, Jordan Roberts, a close friend of Roberts.

http://m.sfgate.com/news/local/article/Texas-photographer-captures-dog-s-last-day-5620564.php




https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/113755/thanks-obama-gif.jpg (http://m.sfgate.com/news/local/article/Texas-photographer-captures-dog-s-last-day-5620564.php)

[boutons_deux]

chief turd says House Repugs fatally constipated, but still shit on Obama and immigrant children

Boehner uncertain Congress can act on border crisis this month

U.S. House Speaker John Boehner on Thursday expressed doubts Congress would agree by the end of this month on an emergency response to the crisis involving an influx of thousands of child migrants at the U.S. southern border.

President Barack Obama (http://www.reuters.com/people/barack-obama?lc=int_mb_1001), a Democrat, has requested $3.7 billion in emergency funds to bolster border security and speed up deportations.

But the Republican speaker said Democratic lawmakers' resistance to changing a 2008 law that combats human trafficking was making Obama's funding request "much more difficult to deal with" and darkened the outlook for bipartisan agreement before the start of a five-week recess on Aug. 1.

While Boehner placed the blame on Democrats, it was not yet clear whether enough of his own Republicans would be willing to vote for the extra money.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/18/us-usa-immigration-idUSKBN0FM26V20140718

so, no help for kids in July or August, and probably nothing September.

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What Corporate Media and Corporate Latino Politicians Won't Tell You About Central American Child Refugees

What neither corporate media nor US Latino politicians will point out is that none of the current wave of refugees are coming from Nicaragua, although it has a similar history to Guatemala, Hondruas and El Salvador, and its just as poor. Why? According to NicaNet.Org (http://www.nicanet.org/?page=blog&id=27148), a project of the Nicaragua Solidary Committee.

“...Nicaragua’s homicide rate dropped to 8.7 per 100,000 inhabitants. Honduras, with 92 homicides per 100,000 inhabitants, has the highest murder rate in the world. El Salvador has 69, Guatemala 39, Panama 14.9 and Costa Rica 10.3 homicides per 100,000 inhabitants...

“The problem of the children migrants is blowback from US policy in the 1980s when our government trained and funded Salvadoran and Guatemalan military and police to prevent popular revolutions and more recently when the US supported the coup against President Manuel Zelaya in Honduras. Those countries were left with brutal, corrupt armies and police forces whereas Nicaragua, with its successful 1979 revolution, got rid of Somoza's brutal National Guard and formed a new army and a new police made up of upstanding citizens.

“Who consumes all those drugs that are causing all that violence and corruption in Latin America? Who has militarized the Drug War and is funding and training repressive militaries and police in the countries from which the children are fleeing? In both cases it is the United States.”


The ferocious Central American gangs we hear so much about are integral to the US-oriented drug traffic. Nicaragua isn't part of the US-oriented drug trade because it threw off US rule with a revolution in 1979.

In the Reagan era the US fought a bloody contra war to overthrow the Nicaraguan government and bring the country under control of its puppets, but despite tens of thousands dead, the Nicaraguan people prevailed. Having done so, they can implement real community policing, reduce crime and provide real security to their people in ways neighboring countries can only dream of. Nicaragua's homicide rate is a third that of Mexico (http://www.ticotimes.net/2014/04/14/honduras-central-america-still-lead-the-world-in-murder-rates), and its socialist government is free to provide low-cost health care, education, food security, democracy and hope to its people. Hence Nicaraguans are not interested in smuggling themselves north. You'd think Latino politicians would be eager to acquaint a larger US public with these facts, backed up as they are by irrefutable UN statistics.

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/25059-what-corporate-media-and-corporate-latino-politicians-wont-tell-you-about-central-american-child-refugees

Thanks, St Ronnie!

[Spurminator]

Your bigotry against Christians is showing...

Robert Jeffries is an embarrassment to Christianity.

[Winehole23]

Texas Gov. Rick Perry plans to announce he will activate the Texas National Guard at a news conference Monday in Austin, said state Sen. Juan “Chuy” Hinojosa, D-McAllen.


Hinojosa did not have details of the effort, but an internal memo from another state official’s office said the governor planned to call about 1,000 Texas National Guard troops to the Rio Grande Valley — at a cost of about $12 million per month.
The memo was provided to The Monitor on the condition of anonymity because the information is not yet public.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/rick-perry-to-send-1000-national-guard-troops-to-texas-mexico-border/

[boutons_deux]

Sheriffs Question Perry Move To Send National Guard Troops To Border

The governor’s office confirmed this morning that Rick Perry will order 1,000 National Guard troops to the Texas border to beef up patrols in South Texas.

But sheriffs along the border said they have not been consulted and question the wisdom of sending military personnel who are not authorized to stop, question, or arrest anyone.

“At this time, a lot of people do things for political reasons. I don’t know that it helps,” said Cameron County Sheriff Omar Lucio.

Lucio said deputies, police, and the U.S. Border Patrol work well together and that they have been able to handle the small uptick in crime along the border.

“I don’t know what good they can do,” Lucio said of military personnel. “I need people who I can hire who know the community, the language, and who can help.”

Hidalgo County Sheriff Eddie Guerra also told the McAllen Monitor that the Guard troops can’t make arrests and he didn’t know what their objective would be.

“The National Guard — they’re trained in warfare; they’re not trained in law enforcement,” he said. “I need to find out what their actual role is going to be, but I think the money would be better spent giving local law enforcement more funds.”

Perry has appeared on news shows and at political events around the country saying that if Washington wasn’t prepared to secure the border, he would act unilaterally.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/sheriffs-question-perry-move-send-national-guard-troops-border/

Repugs like the Old Confederate Lesbian accuse Obama of "leading from behind".

RickyBobby is "leading from his behind" which is where his shit-for-brains head reside

militarization of the border by Homeland (job) Security and 25 miles inland is a fait accompli

[m>s]

The National Guard — they’re trained in warfare; they’re not trained in law enforcement"

that's what it is, a war. this is an illegal invasion..shoot the fucks.


don’t know what good they can do,” Lucio said of military personnel. “I need people who I can hire who know the community, the language, and who can help.”

the language is english, and what good they can do is blast their communist asses


I think the money would be better spent giving local law enforcement more funds.”

why, so they could spend millions arresting them, feeding and housing them for a few days, then just letting them go? you sicko progressive fucks will have to remind me again how that is actually doing anything or enforcing jack shit


the only solution is to split the country among political ideologies as the gap is too large to bridge

let's be honest here. i hate you, and your kind hate me. let's just agree to go our separate ways and live our lives each the way we see fit without any bloodshed.

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“Bring the battlefield to the border”: How America’s immigration wars were poisoned by the military-industrial complex

On display was a post-9/11 world in which the usual rights meant to protect Americans from unreasonable search and seizure and unwanted, as well as unwarranted, interrogation were up for grabs.

While such constitutionally questionable intrusions into people’s privacy have been increasing at border crossings in the post-9/11 years, this type of hardline border policing has also moved inland. In other words, the sort of intrusions that once would have qualified as unconstitutional have moved in startling numbers into the interior of the country.

Imagine the once thin borderline of the American past as an ever-thickening band, now extending 100 miles inland around the United States — along the 2,000-mile southern border, the 4,000-mile northern border, and both coasts — and you will be able to visualize how vast the CBP’s jurisdiction has become. This “border” region now covers places where two-thirds of the U.S. population (197.4 million people) live. The ACLU has come to call it a “constitution-free zone (https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights-constitution-free-zone-map).” The “border” has by now devoured the full states of Maine and Florida and much of Michigan.

In these vast domains, Homeland Security authorities can institute roving patrols with broad, extra-constitutional powers backed by national security, immigration enforcement, and drug interdiction mandates. There, the Border Patrol can set up traffic checkpoints and fly surveillance drones overhead with high-powered cameras and radar that can track your movements. Within 25 miles of the international boundary, CBP agents can enter a person’s private property without a warrant. In these areas, the Homeland Security state is anything but abstract. On any given day, it can stand between you and the grocery store.

“Border Patrol checkpoints and roving patrols are the physical world equivalent of the National Security Agency,” says attorney James Lyall of ACLU Arizona puts it. “They involve a massive dragnet and stopping and monitoring of innocent Americans without any suspicion of wrongdoing by increasingly abusive and unaccountable federal government agents.”

A Standing Army

The zone first came into existence thanks to a series of laws passed by Congress in the 1940s (http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=413&invol=266) and 1950s (http://legalactioncenter.org/sites/default/files/CBP%20100%20Mile%20Rule.pdf) at a time when the Border Patrol was just an afterthought with a miniscule budget and only 1,100 agents. Today, Customs and Border Protection has more than 60,000 employees (http://www.cbp.gov/about) and is by far the largest federal law enforcement agency in the country. According to author and constitutional attorney John Whitehead, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), created in 2002, is efficiently and ruthlessly building (https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/has_the_dept_of_homeland_security_become_americas_ standing_army) “a standing army on American soil.”

Long ago, President James Madison warned (http://books.google.com/books?id=TOV2qcsaY9MC&pg=PA75&lpg=PA75&dq=%E2%80%9Ca+standing+military+force+with+an+over grown+Executive,+will+not+long+be+safe+companions+ to+liberty%22&source=bl&ots=tK-Bz3UaIg&sig=X0EdsxJD2BcPH9Jq6-Bwe1qbbq0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=)that “a standing military force, with an overgrown Executive, will not long be safe companions to liberty.”

With its 240,000 employees and $61 billion budget, the DHS, Whitehead points out (https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/has_the_dept_of_homeland_security_become_americas_ standing_army), is militarizing police units, stockpiling ammunition, spying on activists, and building detention centers, among many other things.

CBP is the uniformed and most visible component of this “standing army.” It practically has its own air force and navy, an Office of Air and Marine equipped (http://www.cbp.gov/border-security/air-sea) with 280 sea vessels, 250 aircraft, and 1,200 agents.

On the border, never before have there been so many miles of walls and barriers, or such an array of sophisticated cameras capable of operating at night as well as in the daylight. Motion sensors, radar systems, and cameras mounted on towers, as well as those drones, all feed their information into operational control rooms throughout the borderlands. There, agents can surveil activity over large stretches of territory on sophisticated (and expensive) video walls. This expanding border enforcement regime is now moving into the 100-mile zone.

Such technological capability also involves the warehousing of staggering amounts of personal information in the digital databases that have ushered in the Post-Constitutional Era.

“What does all this mean in terms of the Fourth Amendment?” Van Buren asks (http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175861/tomgram%3A_peter_van_buren,_what_we%27ve_lost_sinc e_9_11_%28part_2%29/). “It’s simple: the technological and human factors that constrained the gathering and processing of data in the past are fast disappearing.”

The border, in the post 9/11 years, has also become a place where military manufacturers, eyeing a market in an “unprecedented boom period (http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-releases/border-security-market-outlook-2014-2024-259211881.html),” are repurposing (http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175723/tomgram%3A_todd_miller,_surveillance_surge_on_the_ border/) their wartime technologies for the Homeland Security mission.

This “bring the battlefield to the border” posture (http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175552/tomgram%3A_todd_miller,_fortress_usa/) has created an unprecedented enforcement, incarceration, and expulsion machine aimed at the foreign-born (or often simply foreign-looking). The sweep is reminiscent of the operation that forced Japanese (a majority of them citizens) into internment camps during World War II, but on a scale never before seen in this country. With it, unsurprisingly, has come a wave of complaints (http://www.cultureofcruelty.org/) about physical and verbal abuse by Homeland Security agents, as well as tales of inadequate food and medical attention to undocumented immigrants in short-term detention.

The result is a permanent, low-intensity state of exception that makes the expanding borderlands a ripe place to experiment with tearing apart the Constitution, a place where not just undocumented border-crossers, but millions of borderland residents have become the targets of continual surveillance. If you don’t see the Border Patrol’s ever-expanding forces in places like New York City (although CBP agents are certainly present at its airports and seaports), you can see them pulling people over these days in plenty of other spots in that Constitution-free zone where they hadn’t previously had a presence.

http://www.salon.com/2014/07/20/bring_the_battlefield_to_the_border_how_americas_i mmigration_wars_were_poisoned_by_the_military_indu strial_complex/

America is fucked and unfuckable.

[m>s]

that's what it is, a war. this is an illegal invasion..shoot the fucks.



the language is english, and what good they can do is blast their communist asses



why, so they could spend millions arresting them, feeding and housing them for a few days, then just letting them go? you sicko progressive fucks will have to remind me again how that is actually doing anything or enforcing jack shit


the only solution is to split the country among political ideologies as the gap is too large to bridge

let's be honest here. i hate you, and your kind hate me. let's just agree to go our separate ways and live our lives each the way we see fit without any bloodshed.

address this shit, try to spin it you fuckin coward.

protip: you can't.

[m>s]

http://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Le-Merchant-16.jpg

[boutons_deux]

Feds reviewing Perry’s border troops dispatch

Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson said Tuesday that federal officials are reviewing Gov. Rick Perry’s decision to send 1,000 National Guard troops to the border with Mexico.

“The governor feels as though it’s necessary,” Johnson said Tuesday. “We’re reviewing the options just because we want to review all appropriate and lawful options when dealing with this.”

He declined to say whether he thought the deployment was a good idea.

Perry said Monday that the troops are intended to bolster security and fend off the surge of immigrants illegally entering the U.S. Since October, an estimated 60,000 unaccompanied minors mainly from Guatemala, Honduras or El Salvador have crossed the U.S. border.

Perry said his order would “tackle this crisis head-on.” Johnson noted that it isn’t yet clear what the National Guard’s specific function on the border will be.
Earlier this month, the Obama administration rebuffed calls for more troops.

At a Senate hearing July 10, Johnson said deploying the Guard was “hugely expensive.” And when President Barack Obama met with Perry in Dallas, he warned that sending troops to the border would be only a temporary solution.

On Tuesday, Johnson said U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials and immigration personnel will cooperate fully with the Guard.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20140722-feds-reviewing-perrys-border-troops-dispatch.ece

"U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials and immigration personnel will cooperate fully with the Guard."

??? Hey Johnson, the Guard, if RickyBobby even does this, must cooperate with CBP.

[Cry Havoc]

Yeah! Let's shoot those kids who have done nothing wrong but cross a border without authorization and are seeking safety! Sounds like it's worth of the death penalty to me!

[m>s]

Yeah! Let's shoot those kids who have done nothing wrong but cross a border without authorization and are seeking safety! Sounds like it's worth of the death penalty to me!
It is, it's an invasion. Kids can't fend
for themselves so they'll also be stealing
taxpayer resources. End game in al of this is America becomes majority be@ner, we lose
our country, and America crashes. No non white
coyntry has ever been prosperous.

[Winehole23]

No non white coyntry has ever been prosperous.South Korea, Japan and Singapore and Saudi Arabia -- to name just a few (by per capita GDP), in modern times -- send their regards.

There are historical examples, too, profe. Can you name any of them?

[m>s]

East Aryans in japan are an exception to that rule because they are the superior Asian race..South Korea is prosperous because of their ties with the US we help them out for geopolitical reasons..Saudi Arabia just has oil and not much else, it's like a retard winning the lottery.

[Winehole23]

so much for your argument that nonwhite countries are never rich.

lol east aryans

[m>s]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

Singapore, japan, and Israel are literally the only 3 countries in the top 30 who are both non white and not pure oil based economies.

[m>s]

so much for your argument that nonwhite countries are never rich.

lol east aryans
You sound like a self hating white liberal or a shitskin


day of the rope, look it up

[Winehole23]

what's a shitskin, profe?

[Cry Havoc]

You sound like a self hating white liberal or a shitskin


day of the rope, look it up

Your new shtick is old already. Yawn.

[Winehole23]

Congresswoman Michele Bachmann has offered up a new solution to the humanitarian crisis along the US/ Mexico border, where tens of thousands of unaccompanied illegal immigrant children are currently being detained (http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/15/us/arizona-immigrant-children/). And now she’s calling on President Barack Obama to help push forward a bipartisan effort to see her idea become a reality.http://kctv7.com/michele-bachmann-suggests-labor-camps-for-immigrant-children/

[m>s]

based bachman

[Winehole23]

coherence isn't your strong point for sure

[m>s]

just because you don't understand doesn't mean it's incoherent. you're like 40+ you're not supposed to know what "based" means

[Spurminator]

http://kctv7.com/michele-bachmann-suggests-labor-camps-for-immigrant-children/

I had to keep checking to see if this was a Borowitz column... Unreal.

[Winehole23]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Based

[boutons_deux]

Stephen Colbert Blasts Congress Members for Saying Central America Safe for Kids, but Not for Them
Though Rep. Steve Pearce deemed Honduras and Guatemala sufficiently secure for the child refugees at the U.S. border to be returned home there, he and the rest of the seven member delegation sent to assess the situation in Central America rarely left their hotel during their two-day trip for fear of “dangers.”

At the very worst, as the comedian points out on Tuesday’s “The Colbert Report,” if it’s true what Pearce claims and the children are escaping for “economic reasons,” not “physical dangers,” they’re just running away from “starvation.” And that’s not so bad, right?

http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/stephen_colbert_blast_congress_members_saying_cent ral_america_safe_20140723?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+Truthdig+Truthdig%253A+Dril ling+Beneath+the+Headlines

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://news.yahoo.com/arrest-warrant-issued-man-tuberculosis-192756320.html

[m>s]

Stephen Colbert Blasts Congress Members for Saying Central America Safe for Kids, but Not for Them


Though Rep. Steve Pearce deemed Honduras and Guatemala sufficiently secure for the child refugees at the U.S. border to be returned home there, he and the rest of the seven member delegation sent to assess the situation in Central America rarely left their hotel during their two-day trip for fear of “dangers.”

At the very worst, as the comedian points out on Tuesday’s “The Colbert Report,” if it’s true what Pearce claims and the children are escaping for “economic reasons,” not “physical dangers,” they’re just running away from “starvation.” And that’s not so bad, right?

http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/stephen_colbert_blast_congress_members_saying_cent ral_america_safe_20140723?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+Truthdig+Truthdig%253A+Dril ling+Beneath+the+Headlines

their reasons don't matter. we can't possibly accommodate every single person on the face of this earth living in poverty. there are people on this planet worse off than these latin kids, why do they get to cut in line?

[Winehole23]

http://www.sfgate.com/news/local/article/Leaked-photos-show-immigrant-children-packed-in-5531953.php

[Winehole23]

What is most alarming, however, is the attempt to erode rights and protections created by intelligent, humane legislation.


The debate is centered on the Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/08/us/immigrant-surge-rooted-in-law-to-curb-child-trafficking.html), a law signed by President George W. Bush to provide legal and humanitarian protections to unaccompanied migrant children from countries other than Mexico or Canada. The act passed with bipartisan support, yet the “crisis” is now being cited by some of the same legislators who supported the law as a reason to repeal or change it.


This effort to take away rights that were granted when there was significantly less anti-immigrant fervor isn’t just shortsighted and expensive, it’s un-American. We can debate the wisdom of providing greater protection to Central American children than to Mexican children, but there can be no doubt that giving safe haven to a child facing violence in a country that cannot protect its most vulnerable citizens is what a civilized country, with the resources we possess, should do.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/26/opinion/why-the-border-crisis-is-a-myth.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=1

[Winehole23]

http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/07/24/5994558/texas-baptist-men-say-they-helped.html?rh=1

[boutons_deux]

WTF?

http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/27/george-will-says-u-s-should-welcome-illegal-children-mocks-supporters-of-deportation/

[boutons_deux]

Punked! :lol

CORRECTED: Bachmann And Migrant Children (http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2014/07/27/3464604/bachmann-work-camps-migrant-children/)

http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2014/07/27/3464604/bachmann-work-camps-migrant-children/

But Batshitmann saying such a batshit crazy thing is of course entirely believable, anyway. :lol

[boutons_deux]

that damn uppity n!gg@ don't know his place!

heel, boy, heel! :lol

White House Working On Plan To Expand Immigrant Rights

Even as President Barack Obama grapples with the crisis of immigrant children arriving at the Southwest border, White House officials are laying the groundwork for a large-scale expansion of immigrant rights that would come by executive action within weeks.

Officials signaled strongly Friday that Obama’s move would shield from deportation large numbers of immigrants living in the country illegally, as advocacy groups have demanded.

Roughly 5 million of the estimated 11 million people who entered the country without legal authorization or overstayed their visas could be protected under a leading option the White House is considering, according to officials who discussed the proposals on condition of anonymity.

Obama said last month that because Congress had failed to act on comprehensive immigration reform, he would take executive action to “fix as much of our immigration system as I can on my own.”

That move will come by the end of the summer, White House senior adviser Dan Pfeiffer told reporters Friday. Some officials had advocated waiting until after the November midterm election.

Any such move would prompt a major clash with congressional Republicans, and at least some White House officials appeared to relish the prospect that the GOP might overreach in its response and act in a politically self-destructive manner.

When the decision is announced, it will “increase the angry reactions from Republicans,” Pfeiffer said.

“I would not discount the possibility” that Republicans would seek to impeach Obama over his next immigration moves, he said, adding that House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-OH) had “opened the door to impeachment” by his plans to sue Obama for allegedly exceeding his executive authority.

Pfeiffer made his comments at a breakfast for reporters sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor.

Boehner repeatedly has ruled out calls for impeachment proceedings, and his lawsuit against Obama has been widely seen as an effort to provide an alternative for Republicans infuriated by what they see as too much unilateral action by the president.

But the open references to impeachment at the White House on Friday suggest that administration officials are trying to shape the political battleground in advance — portraying Republicans as obstructionist before launching a broad-sweeping executive action on a front where conservative sensitivities are particularly keen: immigration policy.

The White House is entertaining a range of possibilities that would speed up deportations in some cases but forestall them in many others.

Obama could use his executive powers to expedite deportations in response to the current border crisis, in an effort to clear the large numbers of unaccompanied minors gathering daily in the Rio Grande Valley in south Texas.

At the same time, he seems likely to act to prevent deportations of many of the immigrants already living, working and raising children in the U.S.

One option would allow immigrants who are parents of U.S. citizens to apply for temporary legal status which would let them work legally in the U.S. Because children born in the country automatically receive U.S. citizenship, that option could affect about 5 million people, researchers estimate.

A second option would be to allow temporary legal status for the parents of young people already granted deportation deferrals by the Obama administration. That would affect a smaller, but still sizable, number of people.

So far, more than 520,000 people have received permits to stay and work in the U.S. under the administration’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which was created in 2012 for young people who were brought to the U.S. as children.

“It is telling, and sad, that a senior White House official is focused on political games, :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Officials signaled strongly Friday that Obama’s move would shield from deportation large numbers of immigrants living in the country illegally, as advocacy groups have demanded.

Roughly 5 million of the estimated 11 million people who entered the country without legal authorization or overstayed their visas could be protected under a leading option the White House is considering, according to officials who discussed the proposals on condition of anonymity.

“If we do nothing, the president is going to blame us for doing nothing,” said Rep. Marlin Stutzman (R-IN). “We have to step up and show we’re going to do this in an orderly, lawful, compassionate way.”

:lol Repug only steppin is in shit! :lol

http://www.nationalmemo.com/white-house-working-plan-expand-immigrant-rights/

[Wild Cobra]

We already have an abundance of workers for minimum wage jobs. Why does Obama want more?

[boutons_deux]

We already have an abundance of workers for minimum wage jobs. Why does Obama want more?

why do the Repugs block all discussion, attempts to raise the minimum wage?

Why are there so many college grads working minimum wage or not working? Because of Repug economic mismanagement, weak regulation/enforcement, etc, etc that brought the Banksters Great, ongoing, Depression.

[Wild Cobra]

why do the Repugs block all discussion, attempts to raise the minimum wage?

Why are there so many college grads working minimum wage or not working? Because of Repug economic mismanagement, weak regulation/enforcement, etc, etc that brought the Banksters Great, ongoing, Depression.
Minimum wage was not designed as a living wage.

Why did Clinton export out jobs overseas with his free trade agreements?

Want family wage jobs to come back? Disassemble the Clinton Free Trade Zone.

[boutons_deux]

Minimum wage was not designed as a living wage.

Why did Clinton export out jobs overseas with his free trade agreements?

Want family wage jobs to come back? Disassemble the Clinton Free Trade Zone.

what was the minimum wage "intended" to do?

Clinton got stars in his naive eyes and believed Rubin, Summers, and he admits he was wrong about deregulation. NAFTA wasn't Clinton, and widespread push for globalization wasn't Clinton.

Your adored Repugs will block any anti-globalization rollback.

[Wild Cobra]

what was the minimum wage "intended" to do?

Clinton got stars in his naive eyes and believed Rubin, Summers, and he admits he was wrong about deregulation. NAFTA wasn't Clinton, and widespread push for globalization wasn't Clinton.

Your adored Repugs will block any anti-globalization rollback.
You're right.

NAFTA wasn't Clintons, but he signed the ones that followed.

NAFTA was working, until Asia took away the cheap labor for manufacturing. Now we have too much cheap manufacturing.

If Mexico remained the primary source for cheap American goods, then we wouldn't have the same illegal immigration issues we have today, since Mexico's employment would be rising.

[boutons_deux]

You're right. ... yawn ... NAFTA was working

NAFTA made MX stop subsidizing subsistence farmers to prepare the way for heavily subsidized US BigAg to flood MX with cheap corn, etc.

Ms of MX subsistence farmers shut down and left for USA. NAFTA "worked" for BigAg, not for MX farmers.

[Wild Cobra]

NAFTA made MX stop subsidizing subsistence farmers to prepare the way for heavily subsidized US BigAg to flood MX with cheap corn, etc.

Ms of MX subsistence farmers shut down and left for USA. NAFTA "worked" for BigAg, not for MX farmers.

Believe as you wish.

[boutons_deux]

Photos show border militias moving across Texas

Militia groups along the Texas-Mexico border have grown to more than 10 active "teams" from El Paso to the Rio Grande Valley, despite warnings from U.S. Customs and Border Protection and state lawmakers.

http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Photos-show-border-militias-moving-across-Texas-5647487.php

We are SO lucky that these jobless moochers, takers have the time and money to defy law enforcement so they can DEFEND AMERICA!

[m>s]

Lol as if you have the balls to do it

[TheSanityAnnex]

Photos show border militias moving across Texas

Militia groups along the Texas-Mexico border have grown to more than 10 active "teams" from El Paso to the Rio Grande Valley, despite warnings from U.S. Customs and Border Protection and state lawmakers.

http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Photos-show-border-militias-moving-across-Texas-5647487.php

We are SO lucky that these jobless moochers, takers have the time and money to defy law enforcement so they can DEFEND AMERICA!




Oh look the border patrol is helping these jobless moochers. Such defiance!http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s679/thefuzzylumpkins/bp_zpsfb39a198.jpg (http://s1311.photobucket.com/user/thefuzzylumpkins/media/bp_zpsfb39a198.jpg.html)

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rednecks just havin fun

http://www.alternet.org/files/story_images/1600x1600_0.jpg


http://www.alternet.org/10-militias-bring-firepower-border-children-continue-cross?akid=12065.187590.6yiO02&rd=1&src=newsletter1013326&t=2

[TheSanityAnnex]

Good for those guys for doing more than just bitching on the internet all day like some here.

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Border crisis bill derails in House amid Cruz-inspired disarray

House Speaker John A. Boehner was always expected to have trouble passing emergency funds for the crisis at the Southwestern border -- but Republican Sen. Ted Cruz made his job impossible.

Cruz, the hard-line Texas Republican, has been working behind the scenes to stir up conservative opposition to a House GOP plan to approve $659 million to secure the border and handle the flow of 57,000 migrant youths.

And it worked. Amid disarray, House GOP leaders canceled Thursday's vote after it was clear they did not have the votes.

The senator's handiwork lighted up the telephone lines in the Capitol after an appearance on a tea party webinar. He further stoked opposition among House Republicans meeting privately over pizza on the eve of Thursday's vote.

House GOP leaders bristled at the senator's interference on their turf. Rep. Pete King (R-N.Y.) said Cruz had "hijacked" the Republican Party. Democrats jokingly referred to "Speaker Cruz."

Ultimately, Boehner was pressured into attaching a Cruz-inspired bill that would halt the administration's Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program giving 500,000 young immigrants legal status if they remain in school or join the military.

Cruz had similar legislation in the Senate but was unable to get a vote in that chamber. With a push from Cruz, the effort shifted to the House, where the bill also would have blocked any future legalization programs President Obama has promised to deliver later this year.

That's not the message Republicans want to send to Latino and immigrant voters on Congress' last day of business before the long August break for midterm election campaigning.

"The way Republicans have demonized the kids," said border-state Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.), "it's going to come back and bite them."

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-pn-house-gop-border-crisis-daca-20140731-story.html

Thanks, red neck Texans! The most popular politician in TX is a fucking bloody minded, bomb-throwing anarchist.

bttw, I bet boneless Boner will fold again when the House Repug anarchists will want an impeachment vote.

[angrydude]

lol cruz as an anarchist.

[boutons_deux]

Repugs sue The Negro for taking executive action, then tell him to take executive action. :lol

The Repugs sue The Negro for delaying a single provision of ACA, while intending to destroy ACA if they get the chance. :lol

"Hours before Congress broke for the August recess, House Republicans claimed that the President could use executive action to fix the border situation with unaccompanied children fleeing violence (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_sa0-6uEiU&feature=youtu.be) in the Central American countries of Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala.

In a press statement (http://www.speaker.gov/press-release/statement-house-gop-leaders-border-bill) released Thursday, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) and other House Republican leaders indicated that President Obama could address the crisis “without the need for congressional action,” a statement tinged with some irony given that just the day before, House Republicans had slammed the President with a lawsuit (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/07/30/3465876/gop-lawsuit-obamacare/) claiming executive overreach."

http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2014/07/31/3466389/boehner-tells-obama-take-executive-action-but-lawsuit/

Boneless Boner can't get, won't get shit done, gets bitchslapped by Krazy Cruz, so he tells The Negro to take Executive Action, without Congress! :lol

Repugs, fucking nutcases! :lol

[HI-FI]

i've read Cruz's wife helped co-write some north american union bs for Council on Foreign Relations. not sure if that's legit. makes you wonder if he's another phony, propped up to be the opposition.

[boutons_deux]

KKK members call for shooting young refugees dead: ‘Leave the corpses laying on the border’

A self-described “Imperial Wizard” for a Ku Klux Klan organization openly defended his group’s call to deal with the thousands of young Central American immigrants coming to the U.S. through a “shoot to kill” policy, Al Jazeera America reported. (http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/live-news/2014/7/the-kkk-is-back-andarenothappywiththeimmigrationproblem.html)

“To me, they’re breaking the law when they come here,” a hooded man identifying himself as Robert Jones said. “If we can’t turn them back, I think if we pop a couple of them off and leave the corpses laying on the border, maybe they’ll see that we’re serious about stopping immigration.”

Jones, who said he belonged to a group calling itself the “Loyal White Knights,” made the statement in a 10-minute interview with an associate flanking him in a remote field in North Carolina.

The Klan “Wizard” also told Al Jazeera that the current influx of refugees from El Salvador, Nicaragua, and Honduras was sparking a rise in KKK membership, though he did not offer any evidence to back up his claim.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/31/kkk-members-call-for-shooting-young-refugees-dead-leave-the-corpses-laying-on-the-border/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[Wild Cobra]

Just mount some machine guns with a credit card slot to operate. Need a sign also, with vendeors not far away. The sign reads B.Y.O.B.

Bring your own bullets.

[boutons_deux]

THE SAD CLOWNHOOD OF JOHN BOEHNER


There were those of us who thought that when Eric Cantor was defeated in his primary for re-election that he would leave office without ever telling John Boehner the location of the Mason Jar in which Cantor had buried the Speaker's balls.

There were those of us who thought that this would be like one of those adventure novels in which the last man who knows the secret dies unexpectedly without ever having passed it along.

There were those of us who thought maybe Dan Brown could one day get a novel out of the search for Boehner's balls.

But we needn't have been so concerned.

Cantor did his duty to posterity.

He passed along the secret of where the Mason Jar is buried.

He passed it along to Ted Cruz.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/Cruz_Control

... the rest of the article is even better.

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Sen. Harry Reid's office rubs some salt in Republican wounds on House border bill blunder (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/31/1318148/-Sen-Harry-Reid-s-office-rubs-some-salt-in-Republican-wounds-on-House-border-bill-blunder)



http://images.dailykos.com/images/2026/large/boehnerreidcrying_jonathanernst_reuters.jpeg?13432 36510


After House Republicans pulled (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/31/1318107/-Defacto-House-Speaker-Ted-Cruz-gets-another-win) their attempt at a border bill in a conspicuous display of party incompetence, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and his office rubbed some salt in those wounds (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/gop-pulls-border-crisis-bill):


"Senator Reid agrees with House Republican leaders’ statement that President Obama has the authority to take steps on immigration reform on his own," [spokesman Adam Jentleson] said.

"He's glad Republicans have come around and hopes this means they’ll be dropping their frivolous lawsuit against the President, instead of continuing to waste the American people’s time and money."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/31/1318148/-Sen-Harry-Reid-s-office-rubs-some-salt-in-Republican-wounds-on-House-border-bill-blunder?detail=email

[boutons_deux]

Michele Bachmann: Obama keeping migrant kids so U.S. can perform medical experiments on them (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/31/1318109/-Michele-Bachmann-Obama-keeping-migrant-kids-so-U-S-can-perform-medical-experiments-on-them)


http://images.dailykos.com/images/11517/large/Gohmert_Bachmann_King.jpg?1354745632

It seems like we hadn't heard from Rep. Michele Bachmann for a while. That was nice, wasn't it? Alas, all good things must come to an end (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/michele-bachmann-claims-president-obama-wants-use-unaccompanied-children-medical-experiments#sthash.GFCN9ye2.dpuf).


Rep. Michele Bachmann has a new theory about the unaccompanied minors fleeing violence in Central America who have come in large numbers to the southern U.S. border: they are future victims of a liberal plot to use unwilling children for medical experiments.

The origins of this theory are long and complex and more than a little batshit crazy; see the link if you want the long version.

The short version is that

the conservative movement is absolutely batshit crazy, and a sizable portion of all the people they elect are similarly batshit crazy, and they all get their news from batshit crazy news sources staffed by batshit crazy people until everything is just a blur of crazy-ass conspiracy theories that they've convinced themselves of primarily because a bunch of equally batshit crazy people claim they believe them as well. (be talkin' 'bout YOU PEOPLE, ST right-wing-bats!)

So let's set all that aside and listen to Rep. Michele Bachman explain just why President Obama is so eager to keep all of these migrant children in our midst.


"Now President Obama is trying to bring all of those foreign nationals, those illegal aliens to the country and he has said that he will put them in the foster care system," Bachmann said. "That's more kids that you can see how - we can't imagine doing this, but if you have a hospital and they are going to get millions of dollars in government grants if they can conduct medical research on somebody, and a Ward of the state can't say 'no,' a little kid can't say 'no' if they're a Ward of the state; so here you could have this institution getting millions of dollars from our government to do medical experimentation and a kid can't even say 'no.' It's sick".


Holy. Freaking. Freak. Her mind must be a horrible place, a place of bats and alligators and carnival rides staffed by sad-faced clowns wielding axes in one hand and machetes in the other. I don't know how you get yourself down a path that leaves you believing things like that are somebody's secret plan, but if you believe that it makes all the little things like "half-century old plan to put a Kenyan citizen in the White House" or "government plan to buy up all of the ammunition so you people can't get any" look like ho-hum stuff in comparison.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/31/1318109/-Michele-Bachmann-Obama-keeping-migrant-kids-so-U-S-can-perform-medical-experiments-on-them?detail=email#

[boutons_deux]

America's Dumbest Congressman says migrant children are lying about violence (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/31/1318105/-America-s-Dumbest-Congressman-says-migrant-children-are-lying-about-violence)


http://images.dailykos.com/images/32452/large/Gohmert.jpg?1368652256

Since Rep. Steve King (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/30/1317786/-Steve-King-manages-to-attack-Obama-for-birth-control-rape-and-refugee-crisis-in-just-one-sentence) says that Central American families have been lured by U.S. policies to "give their daughters birth control pills and send them down a rape path all the way through Mexico, and it's a death path on the death train" to get to the United States, a more observant person than Steve King might wonder what is going on in some parts of Central America that would cause anyone to contemplate taking the "death train" that Steve King warns about.According to fellow Congressional Three Stooges member Louie Gohmert, the answer is nothing. Those children aren't fleeing from anything, they're all are just filthy liars. (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/louie-gohmert-claims-central-american-youth-are-lying-about-violence#sthash.2xH61YKu.dpuf)


“Texas and the United States is [sic] being invaded and we’re in danger,” Gohmert said, before alleging that most of the unaccompanied minors are lying when they tell border patrol agents that they are escaping gang violence in Central America and have been coached to make such claims. Gohmert said minors end up telling officers that “we were told to say that we were fleeing gang violence.”

After pausing a moment to reflect again on this notion that the United States is facing existential danger (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/29/1317604/-Open-thread-for-night-owls-1-000-children) from a bunch of children, I suppose we ought to point out to America's Dumbest Congressman—who was once an actual judge, for some Texas definition of "actual"—that we do have ways of checking these things.

All of the children are interviewed to determine what their status is and whether their request for refugee status should be granted; I assure you, if there is a broad movement of filthy liar children who are not fleeing dangerous or violent situations but just felt like going down the "rape path" slash "death path" slash "death train" on a goddamn lark, we will ferret them out and toss them right back to their insufficiently dangerous or violent towns as Jesus and the Statue of Liberty both intended.


He likened the immigrant “invasion” to D-Day, warning that undocumented immigrants were responsible for over six hundred thousand crimes in Texas over the past five years, including thousands of homicides and sexual assaults.

What is with this guy and D-Day? Do you think he realizes that the invaders were the good guys, on D-Day? There's your bar, all you prospective new House members who are itching to take Louie Gohmert's title as America's Dumbest Congressman. That's what you're up against. Good luck topping that accomplished mix of conspiracy theories, paranoia, half-truths, non-truths, and bafflingly inappropriate metaphors.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/31/1318105/-America-s-Dumbest-Congressman-says-migrant-children-are-lying-about-violence?detail=email

Thanks, East Texas inbreds!

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Ann Coulter: Why can’t we deal with our border the way Netanyahu deals with Hamas

“More than a hundred tunnels have been found on our border,” Coulter said. “To smuggle in weapons, guns, they’re invading, They’re murdering, they’re raping. The head of the DEA said about a year ago that he thinks the surge of homicides in Chicago is a Mexican drug cartel.”

Coulter added, “I just wish we would talk about our border the way we talk about Israel’s border.”

“We need a Netanyahu here. Can you imagine all these — yes, sometimes Palestinian kids get killed, ” she said as she began to laugh. “That’s because they are, they’re associated with a terrorist organization that is harming Israel, and Netanyahu doesn’t care what the religious leaders say, weeping about Palestinian children. He doesn’t care what the UN says. He doesn’t care what the media says.”

She concludes, “We are a country, we have borders, and Netanyahu enforces them. Why can’t we do that in America?”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/01/ann-coulter-why-cant-we-deal-with-our-border-the-way-netanyahu-deals-with-hamas/

And the roused red neck xenophobe rabble goes wild!

[Wild Cobra]

Netanyahu 2016!

[boutons_deux]

http://nationalmemo.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/texas-militias-1024x710.jpg

[boutons_deux]

Republican who crafted House border policy says our nation's borders were established by God (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/01/1318388/-Republican-who-crafted-House-border-policy-says-our-nation-s-borders-were-established-by-God)

http://images.dailykos.com/images/41872/large/Steve_King_2.jpg?1374852540

Ladies and gentlemen, presenting the House member who is now crafting the Republican Party's immigration policy (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/steve-king-god-established-americas-borders):


During a conference call last month with the National Emergency Coalition, Rep. Steve King said that the U.S. needs to crack down on immigration because our nation’s borders were established by God. Disrespecting the borders, the congressman suggested, is disrespecting God’s will.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/01/1318388/-Republican-who-crafted-House-border-policy-says-our-nation-s-borders-were-established-by-God?detail=email

And God stole America from the AmerIndians, too, and the He drew the USA "sacred" borders.

Repugs! :lol

Christians! :lol

Iowa and all its pig shit! :lol

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://www.krgv.com/mobile/news/sheriff-suspects-confessed-to-killing-off-duty-agent/?test3 (http://www.krgv.com/mobile/news/sheriff-suspects-confessed-to-killing-off-duty-agent/?test3)


RAYMONDVILLE - Willacy County Sheriff Larry Spence is working with Cameron County investigators to determine if two men accused in the murder of an off-duty federal agent are linked to other crimes.

Authorities charged the two Mexican nationals in the murder of Border Patrol Agent Javier Vega Jr.

The sheriff said deputies got a call around 8 p.m. Sunday about a shooting off FM 1420, near Santa Monica. Investigators said the shooting stemmed from an attempted robbery.
Vega, his parents, wife and children were fishing off the levee when a vehicle drove by the site. The vehicle later returned and the men inside tried to rob the family.

At some point, shots were fired. Officials said Vega had his weapon and exchanged gunfire with the suspects. He was shot at least once in the chest. His father was shot in the hip. The sheriff said Vega's mother called authorities about the shooting.

Spence said the robbery-turned-murder is the first case of its type in the county. He said anglers have been robbed in Cameron County. Now he wants to know if the suspects in Sunday's murder are linked to those crimes.
Spence said both suspects confessed to the crime after they were caught and questioned. The men admitted each had a pre-planned role in the robbery. One was supposed to fire shots as a scare tactic while the other took jewelry, cash and the family's vehicle.
"It's getting very dangerous out there. You don't know who you're going to run into or what they're up to or why they're there," Spence said.

The murder has area residents on edge.
Millie Quintanilla opened a bait and snack store in the area after she retired years ago. She said people from throughout the Valley visit her shop for fishing supplies.
Quintanilla said many of the anglers cast their lines from the levees.
Willacy County investigators worked all night to capture the suspects. Spence said they found the suspects' vehicle disabled near the scene. Crews found their footprints and tracked them to Sebastian where a homeowner flagged down a Border Patrol agent.
"He said, ‘there's two in the back of my house, in a shed back there.' They preceded to go over there and surrounded the place and they ended up surrendering," Spence said.

The men were charged with capital murder, attempted capital murder, aggravated robbery and tampering with evidence.



More upstanding illegal alien activity

[m>s]

If they want war then let them have war

[Infinite_limit]

Meanwhile in Australia

http://www.customs.gov.au/site/Translations/images/Flier_English_o_High-res.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT12WH4a92w

[pgardn]

Meanwhile in Australia

http://www.customs.gov.au/site/Translations/images/Flier_English_o_High-res.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT12WH4a92w

Fair warning.
So many die at sea.

Rio Grande is a bit narrower than the Pacific Ocean.
When the Rio Grande has water that is.

[Winehole23]

Just mount some machine guns with a credit card slot to operate. Need a sign also, with vendors not far away. The sign reads B.Y.O.B.

Bring your own bullets.Fantasizing? Joking?

Both?

[Wild Cobra]

Fantasizing? Joking?

Both?

I'll let you all wonder.

[boutons_deux]

Here's typical total craziness from the Repug hero

Dinesh D’Souza’s fever dream: Obama invented border crisis to kill America for his lefty pals

In an interview (http://usawatchdog.com/manipulation-by-obama-caused-u-s-border-crisis-dinesh-dsouza/) with USAWatchdog’s Greg Hunter, disgraced (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/23/prosecutors-cuckolded-husbands-tape-proves-dinesh-dsouza-knew-he-broke-campaign-laws/) conservative commentator Dinesh D’Souza claimed that a petty President Barack Obama created the border crisis to “manipulate the goodness of the American people.”

In the wide-ranging interview, D’Souza claimed that Obama only went to Chicago in order to work under the tutelage of conservative bogeyman and alleged — though not actual — communist Saul Alinksy. “He’s somebody Obama heard about, and that’s why Obama kept going back to Chicago. Think about it — Obama has no roots in Chicago. He comes from Hawaii. He lived part of his life in Indonesia, but he kept going to Chicago because he heard about this guy, Alinsky,” D’Souza said.

“Who was Alinsky?” he asked. “He was basically a shakedown artist. He used to hang out with the mafia, and he realized what the mafia does–they shake people down for money. Alinsky said, how do I do that politically?”

D’Souza then said that this is exactly what the president has done with the situation at the Mexican border — “taken people of good will and put them into an impossible situation.” According to D’Souza, Obama “simply put out the word on the other side of the border that we are not that serious about enforcing the immigration laws. Moreover, we are trying to get amnesty for lawbreakers already in this country. Pretty soon, half the world shows up, and Obama throws up his hands and pretends, ‘How did they all come here?’”

He was careful not lay blame for the crisis on the people who attempted to enter the United States. “I don’t blame them,” D’Souza said, “I blame the cynicism and manipulation of the Obama Administration which has manufactured, to a large degree, this crisis.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/06/dinesh-dsouzas-fever-dream-obama-invented-border-crisis-to-kill-america-for-his-commie-pals/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

:lol

[boutons_deux]

Fox News hosts suspicious that Obama is cutting short vacation they slammed him for taking

“Yeah, there’s going to be some vacation interruptus,” co-host Steve Doocy quipped. “It turns out, he’s supposed to go to Martha’s Vineyard from Aug. 9th through the 24th, but he’s going to come back to the White House on Aug. 17th through the Tuesday.”

“Could that be the big unveiling of the big executive action to amnetize all these people?” he added. “At this point, we don’t know.”

( fucking "amnetize" isn't an English word, not that Fox and its bubba viewers give a shit about language )

Co-host Anna Kooiman entertained the idea that the president could be ending his vacation to play more golf somewhere else, :lol but she decided that didn’t make sense.

(bitch, you're senseless, not that your redneck viewers give a shit)

“I think he’s going to push for [executive] action,” Kilmeade opined. “Although if you’re going to do something major, why do it before Labor Day?”

Less than a month ago, Fox News host Greta Van Susteren had complained (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/16/colbert-fox-news-obama-traveling-video_n_5591347.html) about Obama taking the Martha’s Vineyard trip as the U.S. was dealing with thousands of refugees fleeing violence in Central America.

And when a Malaysian Airlines flight went down in Ukraine, the hosts of Fox & Friends wanted to know (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/07/18/on-heels-of-tragic-plane-crash-fox-rewrites-rea/200144) why the president had not been more like Ronald Reagan, who they said cut a vacation short to deal with a downed Korean Air jet in 1983.

“What kind of message does that send to people around the globe when he doesn’t stop and get back in the office when a crisis like this occurs?” Fox & Friends host Elisabeth Hasselbeck asked Fox News host Chris Wallace.

Wallace, however, pointed out that it actually took four days for Reagan’s staff to convince him to leave his ranch in Santa Barbara and fly back to Washington, D.C. to deal with the crisis.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/07/fox-news-hosts-suspicious-that-obama-is-cutting-short-vacation-they-slammed-him-for-taking/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

:lol

The "comparatively socialist St Ronnie" as Repug/Fox TAX-raising hero! :lol

[Winehole23]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/11/article-2721991-20722B0D00000578-549_634x327.jpg


Guerilla documentarian recrosses the Rio Grande dressed as Osama Bin Laden.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2721991/The-border-fence-joke-Filmmaker-crosses-US-Mexico-dressed-Osama-bin-Laden-Border-Patrol-says-once.html

[m>s]

and this is why we're not going full retard and legalizing all the be@ners

[Winehole23]

meh. amnesty has always been unpopular with hardcore racialists on this board..

I don't think O' Keefe proved anything. it was just a dumb stunt

[m>s]

dumb stunt? proved his point i think that's all he intended to do.

[DarrinS]

Amnesty all of them and immediately send them to the most liberal cities in the US.

[Wild Cobra]

Amnesty all of them and immediately send them to the most liberal cities in the US.
I'm glad Portland isn't the closest.

[DarrinS]

It's weird that the most segregated cities are all blue.

[boutons_deux]

It's weird that the most segregated cities are all blue.

which RED cities, esp the big ones, are "integrated"?

[boutons_deux]

Report: Majority Of Americans Don’t Want To Immediately Deport Refugee Children

A Reuters/Ipsos poll (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/11/us-usa-immigration-children-idUSKBN0GB0AJ20140811)conducted from July 31-August 5 shows that 51 percent of Americans think that the unaccompanied minors shouldn’t be deported right away; 38 percent think they should be taken care of until it’s proven safe for them to go back to their home countries, 13 percent believe they should be allowed to stay in the United States, and 32 percent say that the children should be sent home immediately.

The results cut across party lines, with 48 percent of Democrats, 30 percent of Republicans, and 37 percent of Independents saying that the children should be able to stay as long as necessary.
“Overall, people are humane and they understand that no matter what our situation is with the budget, whether or not we can afford this, these are kids. No matter what the immigration system is, they are innocent,” said Lance Lee, who participated in the survey.

This attitude is in stark contrast to what politicians are saying in Washington. President Obama has sent a very clear message that children who come here illegally will get sent home. Republicans have blamed Obama for the border crisis, arguing that his 2012 executive action (http://icwclaw.org/services-available/deferred-action-for-childhood-arrivals-daca/) that gives some young immigrants a chance to apply for work authorization encouraged children to illegally come to the United States.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/report-majority-americans-dont-want-immediately-deport-refugee-children/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=NM_Master_List&utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter%20-%20August%2012%202014

Human-Americans are more humane than Politician-Americans, esp xenophobe/racist-baiting Repugs

[DarrinS]

^that word "immediately" is pretty important

[DarrinS]

"A Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted from July 31-August 5 shows that 51 percent of Americans think that the unaccompanied minors shouldn’t be deported right away; 38 percent think they should be taken care of until it’s proven safe for them to go back to their home countries, 13 percent believe they should be allowed to stay in the United States, and 32 percent say that the children should be sent home immediately."


So, 70% think they should be deported (at some point)

[DarrinS]

Good find, botox

[boutons_deux]

Good find, botox

thanks, you're weak shit spin is always informative.