true/false, Argentina can't win if Messi doesn't score

[ElNono]

midget scored on every game so far, and in all cases one goal has been the difference...

can Argentina win going forward if he doesn't score?

[Venti Quattro]

No

[lefty]

TBH it's true


Most of the team has been crap, Messi has saved the day so far

Go Argentina


Get your jizz umbrellas ready, someone is gonna check this thread soon

[hater]

Id be more worried about their Swiss Cheese defense tbqh

[Venti Quattro]

TBH it's true

Most of the team has been crap, Messi has saved the day so far

Go Argentina

Get your jizz umbrellas ready, someone is gonna check this thread soon
Antonella is patrolling Argentina-related threads, tbh

[ElNono]

I'm gonna go with true also, as long as Piputa looks fat and disinterested, and Dive Maria keeps playing like a turd...

[Relevancy]

I dont think they can, Messi will carry you guys as far as he can/is willing to.

Higuain and Di Maria are more then capable of scoring, more so Higuain, but he has not even been close to having a clear opportunity, all I remember him doing is providing that final touch to Messi so he could score against Bosnia.

your team doesnt really look like a team, your transitions from your side to an opponents side are slow as hell, gago is not really that good, his not Leo's iniesta or xavi, mascherano sometimes wants to be a cb, but all he does is send long air balls, that aint gonna cut it. Overall messi will determine how far you go if that di maria/higuain/messi/gago front line doesnt click.

[it's me]

Midget isn't playing that good tbh.... being clutch though. I'm actually looking forward to this game... if Arg starts cranking, I like their chances to at least play semis..... if they keep playing like shit and show no heart on an elimination game.... then they are doomed.

[ElNono]

It's weird, because they were all phenomenal during qualifiers. I noticed Dive Maria just shrinks in the WC... he was just as underwhelming in 2010, and it's becoming an uncomfortable trend. Without his dynamism in the middle, the offense just disappears.
Higuain was better in 2010, so in that case I wonder if his late injury is still nagging him.

Gago mixes in great games with shitty outings. It's a tossup between him and Maxi, who's also a guy that can be passive or brilliant. That's why I never understood why Banegas was cut. Ricky Alvarez could give you some offensive midfield play, but he can't defend.

There's talent there, just need to get their shit together for just 4 games.

[apalisoc_9]

The only reason argentina looks shit is because they all have to give up something for Overrated Messi..

truth be told, all the other guys would be playing better ball if they don't have to hear messi this messi that all the time..

That shit is discouraging tbh

[hater]

The only reason argentina looks shit is because they all have to give up something for Overrated Messi..

truth be told, all the other guys would be playing better ball if they don't have to hear messi this messi that all the time..

That shit is discouraging tbh

disagree tbh. Without Messi this team probably is gone fishing by now. Not to say Messi can take them much farther. Their defense is pathetic, Nigeria did whatever they wanted up in that pussy.

Real reason IMO is most of their players are average euro exports and many past their expiration date(LOL Mascerano)

This Argentina goes down to Uruguay easily tbh. Sure Messi makes them slightly competitive. But as I been saying, the Batistuta Argentina runs circles around these scrubs.

[it's me]

The only reason argentina looks shit is because they all have to give up something for Overrated Messi..

truth be told, all the other guys would be playing better ball if they don't have to hear messi this messi that all the time..

That shit is discouraging tbh

:lmao Messi overrated ........ let me guess.... you are a Cristina fan.

[ElNono]

It's just discouraging we haven't had a good crop of defenders since Samuel, tbh... Garay/Fernandez are probably an upgrade over TOSB Demichelis, but still give you no guarantees.

[hater]

seriously when has Kun Aguero or Lavezzi (:lol) done anything worth a shit? :lol

the most recent memorable move by these 2 faggots is get Maradona tattoed on their asscheeks

[lefty]

:lol

[Venti Quattro]

The only reason argentina looks shit is because they all have to give up something for Overrated Messi..

truth be told, all the other guys would be playing better ball if they don't have to hear messi this messi that all the time..

That shit is discouraging tbh

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

First, the advanced stats causing Miami to lose, and now this?

Why haven't you killed yourself, you worthless piece of shit?

[Relevancy]

It's weird, because they were all phenomenal during qualifiers. I noticed Dive Maria just shrinks in the WC... he was just as underwhelming in 2010, and it's becoming an uncomfortable trend. Without his dynamism in the middle, the offense just disappears.
Higuain was better in 2010, so in that case I wonder if his late injury is still nagging him.

Gago mixes in great games with shitty outings. It's a tossup between him and Maxi, who's also a guy that can be passive or brilliant. That's why I never understood why Banegas was cut. Ricky Alvarez could give you some offensive midfield play, but he can't defend.

There's talent there, just need to get their shit together for just 4 games.you guys can hope they waited till the later rounds

[Relevancy]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

First, the advanced stats causing Miami to lose, and now this?

Why haven't you killed yourself, you worthless piece of shit?that dude is just a troll, I know we all have our inner trolling habits, but that dude goes full retard every time. Thats why I skip his shit all the time.

[Venti Quattro]

that dude is just a troll, I know we all have our inner trolling habits, but that dude goes full retard every time. Thats why I skip his shit all the time.

Your meltdowns are infinitely more fun to read... I mean who doesn't love to see a Relevancy meltdown 'round this bend, tbh?

[lefty]

Is it possible that the rest of the team is shit because Messi is in Enrique mode :D

[Relevancy]

Your meltdowns are infinitely more fun to read... I mean who doesn't love to see a Relevancy (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=29578) meltdown 'round this bend, tbh?:married:

[ElNono]

Is it possible that the rest of the team is shit because Messi is in Enrique mode :D

If you didn't watch the games, you could think that. But Rojo/Dive Maria have the ball like 70% of the time. Which is why Dive Maria's struggles are disgusting, tbh

[Venti Quattro]

If you didn't watch the games, you could think that. But Rojo/Dive Maria have the ball like 70% of the time. Which is why Dive Maria's struggles are disgusting, tbh

I watched all Argie games and this is true. Messi just takes what di Maria gives him. He still managed to turn shit into four goals. God, tbh

[ffadicted]

False. But they def can't win if he doesn't perform

[ManuLoco]

seriously when has Kun Aguero or Lavezzi (:lol) done anything worth a shit? :lol

the most recent memorable move by these 2 faggots is get Maradona tattoed on their asscheeks

dtvP1liVtcg


Give me a call when that Gaynaldo Wannabe James scores a goal that gives his team a championship. Sorry to tell you but James is the next Hasan Sas.

And Messi will score a hat-trick tomorrow.

[Brazil]

Depends against who tbh

[hater]

Give me a call when that Gaynaldo Wannabe James scores a goal that gives his team a championship. Sorry to tell you but James is the next Hasan Sas.

And Messi will score a hat-trick tomorrow.

Messi couldn't even score a hat trick vs Iran :lol

and my nephew is a baby right now in his first world cup. How many goals did Messi score in his first WC??? :lmao

[Relevancy]

Messi couldn't even score a hat trick vs Iran :lol

and my nephew is a baby right now in his first world cup. How many goals did Messi score in his first WC??? :lmaoIran parked the bus big time, hard to score against park buses

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Messi couldn't even score a hat trick vs Iran :lol

and my nephew is a baby right now in his first world cup. How many goals did Messi score in his first WC??? :lmao

Question: if Hames misses a Penaldo vs. Brazil... what's the caliber waiting him back home?

[hater]

Iran parked the bus big time, hard to score against park buses

Uruguay did the same . We carbombed that shit :lol

[Relevancy]

Uruguay did the same . We carbombed that shit :lolYou have players with major pace and agile with the ball

easier to break defenses with fast players, aside from Di Maria and Messi, I don't think Argentina has players like Hammes or Cuadrado

[hater]

Question: if Hames misses a Penaldo vs. Brazil... what's the caliber waiting him back home?

My berracos already did their job at the WC tbh. To beat Brazil in the quarters is equivalent to winning it all after being down 1-3 in the NBA Finals tbh :cry

it would take some serious magic to beat Brazil in anything less than Semis.

[ElNono]

My berracos already did their job at the WC tbh. To beat Brazil in the quarters is equivalent to winning it all after being down 1-3 in the NBA Finals tbh :cry

it would take some serious magic to beat Brazil in anything less than Semis.

Without Falcao too... I wish Argentina would pay attention and get Pekerman back as the NT coach...

[it's me]

Without Falcao too... I wish Argentina would pay attention and get Pekerman back as the NT coach...

He'll be a TOSB in four years though.

[it's me]

Argies should hire Guardiola or Cholo tbh.

[hater]

Without Falcao too... I wish Argentina would pay attention and get Pekerman back as the NT coach...

the Popovich of futbol tbh :cry

btw I beleive Pekerman has never lost a WC match in regulation :wow

[hater]

yup just double checked

Pekerman not only qualified for the quarterfinals for the first time, but made ​​history because he has a record nine-game unbeaten run in the World Cup, tied with Italian Vittorio Pozzo, who won in 1934 and 1938. - See more at: http://www.conmebol.com/en/content/pekerman-taxi-driver-world-cup-coach#sthash.U09eUQcD.dpuf

:lmao FIFA = fucked

[hater]

"In 1981 the president of the club suggested that I take over the whole structure of training and development of players," he recalls of that period. His modesty prevents him from mentioning that during that period many star players came out of Argentinos Juniors including Fernando Redondo (ex-Real Madrid), Juan Roman Riquelme (Boca Juniors and former Barcelona), Esteban Cambiasso (Inter ex-Milan) plus Maradona.

:cry

[ElNono]

the Popovich of futbol tbh :cry

btw I beleive Pekerman has never lost a WC match in regulation :wow

Yup, he won everything with ARG as the head coach of U17/U20... a lot of ARG talent we have today can be traced back to him.

Heck, Messi first game in a WC was with him as the head coach...

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lol

Argentina has the most offensive weapons in the entire WC, followed closely by Germany, France, and Brazil..

[lefty]

If you didn't watch the games, you could think that. But Rojo/Dive Maria have the ball like 70% of the time. Which is why Dive Maria's struggles are disgusting, tbh
Ah okay

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

I'm worried about Gago. Fucker looks like a TOSB at the age of 28. Has been sucking big time since he left Real Madrid, flashes of talent, but never winning back his form. If I were Hitzfeld I'd put a lot of pressure on him, he's the one linking the defense with Messi. If they can intercept his passes and launch counter attacks against our shitty backline we're toast.

[Franklin]

dude's carrying the whole team on his 4'5 shoulders but even the Great Satan Lebron can't carry his team to a title. semi-finals would be the ceiling for argies and even that would be a breakthrough for them (knowing they haven't made the semi-finals since Maradona)

[Splits]

False. They won 4 straight in SA and he didn't score.

Heres to to hoping the Swiss put a beatdown similar to the one their northern neighbors put on Argies in 2010

[ManuLoco]

My berracos already did their job at the WC tbh. To beat Brazil in the quarters is equivalent to winning it all after being down 1-3 in the NBA Finals tbh :cry

it would take some serious magic to beat Brazil in anything less than Semis.

With that looser mentality, that's why you'll never win a WC. And trust me, Pekerman will fuck it up sooner than later, he'll pull a sub "Cruz instead of Messi" against a team that actually is playing with their best player (and not a sad Suarez-less Uruguay). Then, Colombians will be as pathetic as Chileans, being happy just because they put up a decent fight.

[ManuLoco]

My berracos already did their job at the WC tbh. To beat Brazil in the quarters is equivalent to winning it all after being down 1-3 in the NBA Finals tbh :cry

it would take some serious magic to beat Brazil in anything less than Semis.

With that looser mentality, that's why you'll never win a WC. And trust me, Pekerman will fuck it up sooner than later, he'll pull a sub "Cruz instead of Messi" against a team that actually is playing with their best player (and not a sad Suarez-less Uruguay). Then, Colombians will be as pathetic as Chileans, being happy just because they put up a decent fight.

[urunobili]

False. He can dish 4 assists

[lefty]

Lirl

[Infinite_limit]

Argentina would not qualify for the World Cup out of UEFA

[ElNono]

the false goods :toast

[DAF86]

Can they win without him getting the goal or assist?