world cup winner recipe

[ManuLoco]

1- Having the 1-3 best goal-keeper in the world who saves an impossible goal on at least three occasions.
2- Having at least one of the 1-3 best central defenders in the world.
3- One extraordinary lucky situation in a very close knock-out game.
4. One huge help from the refs in a very close game: crazy penalty, missed red card, no-call offside.
5. The best player over 24 years old, who shows up big time in every knock-out game.

Am I missing any ingredient? Does any team meet this recipe? Spain 2010 met this recipe, Italy 2006, Brazil 2002, France1998...

[Franklin]

remove the ref item and the Reich would meet this recipe perfectly tbh.

[Infinite_limit]

1- Having the 1-3 best goal-keeper in the world who saves an impossible goal on at least three occasions.
2- Having at least one of the 1-3 best central defenders in the world.
3- One extraordinary lucky situation in a very close knock-out game.
4. One huge help from the refs in a very close game: crazy penalty, missed red card, no-call offside.
5. The best player over 24 years old, who shows up big time in every knock-out game.

Am I missing any ingredient? Does any team meet this recipe? Spain 2010 met this recipe, Italy 2006, Brazil 2002, France1998...
2. Busquetes? I think good CDM or Back 4 works. I guess Spain was an exception because they practiced ball control
3 & 4 can be combined. Champs do need breaks
5. I don't think this applies. The 4 Champs you listed, none had this. On the contrary maybe Zidane 06, Ronaldo 98 were the Top Players.

Defense + GK + Offensive breaks seems about right. In this World Cup 'The Substitute' seems to be a large difference maker.

[Aztecfan03]

remove the ref item and the Reich would meet this recipe perfectly tbh.

He was hoping you would say Argentina, but Germany fits it better overall.

[Franklin]

argentina have one of the 1-3 best defenders in the world? :lmao

[ElNono]

there's no secret recipe... you can look back and you'll see very different formulas...

Brazil won a few with outstanding offense, and passable defense. Italy won with their usual catenaccio. Spain with tiki-taka. Argentina with solid defense and magic Diego. France also with solid defense and magic Zidane. Germany won their last one with stoic defense.

[TDMVPDPOY]

winning recipe is to match fix, use that proceeds bet on the other team ur supposed to tank...lol cameroon

[Infinite_limit]

there's no secret recipe... you can look back and you'll see very different formulas...

Brazil won a few with outstanding offense, and passable defense. Italy won with their usual catenaccio. Spain with tiki-taka. Argentina with solid defense and magic Diego. France also with solid defense and magic Zidane. Germany won their last one with stoic defense.
To me, that's the beauty of Soccer. You don't have 1 single recipe for success like
NFL: QB & Defense
MLB: Pitching
NBA: TOP 5 player

It's truly a collection of 11 guys with interchangeable roles & skills

[dfens]

1. good/great coach, great team ( 1998, 1994, 2006)

2. retardedly superior talent/system (1970, 2002, 2010)

3. good coach, good team, luck/rigging OR heart (1990, 1982, 1978)

[ManuLoco]

He was hoping you would say Argentina, but Germany fits it better overall.

Actually Argentina doesn't meet 1 and 2 and that's why I think they won't win, anyone who says they do doesn't know anything about football. I was not saying the best player on the field, just the best player of the team: Zidane 98, Ronaldo 2002 (well they have many great players), Pirlo 2006, Iniesta 2010. It's a matter of maturity. I think players like James or the Belgians will eventually fold. To me, Germany meets every ingredient. The next three games you will see how they get 3 and 4 and end up lifting the cup.
Then, I was talking about modern world cups, after 1990. World cups are much different now than back then. Much more media pressure, fans, etc. It's a different beast. I'll bump this thread when all is said and done and let's see if the champion met this recipe and the other 7 teams left didn't.

[dfens]

Actually Argentina doesn't meet 1 and 2 and that's why I think they won't win, anyone who says they do doesn't know anything about football. I was not saying the best player on the field, just the best player of the team: Zidane 98, Ronaldo 2002 (well they have many great players), Pirlo 2006, Iniesta 2010. It's a matter of maturity. I think players like James or the Belgians will eventually fold. To me, Germany meets every ingredient. The next three games you will see how they get 3 and 4 and end up lifting the cup.
Then, I was talking about modern world cups, after 1990. World cups are much different now than back then. Much more media pressure, fans, etc. It's a different beast. I'll bump this thread when all is said and done and let's see if the champion met this recipe and the other 7 teams left didn't.

I love pirlo but cannavaro was the heart and soul of that team and he would have been tournament MVP if not for zidane. He also came second for the golden ball trophy. For 2006, It isn't debatable between him and pirlo tbh.

imo for spain's world cup xavi was the important player because he dictated pace and controlled the game with his deep play making which defined the spanish system. Iniesta's runs usually come from xavi opening up space, after which exquiste talent like iniesta/villa/silva could do their damage. Since spain won with a system (besides heaps of talent) it's only natural to give it to the maestro. Many coaches said that to stop spain in 2010 they had to stop xavi.

[dfens]

as for 2002 : ronaldo/rivaldo/ronaldinho/young kaka of the bench was some of the most ridiculously creative attacking force for any team, ever. Definition of stacked. ronaldo/rivaldo/ronaldinho all dominated, it wasn't like when zidane was bringing light to the darkness of african football.

[ManuLoco]

We could argue all day which player we consider to be the most important/best player. Xavi/Iniesta are the only two I would give co-mvps. 2002 Brazil with no Ronaldo wouldn't have gotten that far. It is not the goals he scored but also the fear he created in the opposite team. Ronaldinho wasn't the Barza Ronaldinho yet. Finally, in a Spurs analogy -not the best analogy for many reasons, but you may get my point- to me Cannavaro was Duncan and Pirlo was Kawhi.

[dfens]

We could argue all day which player we consider to be the most important/best player. Xavi/Iniesta are the only two I would give co-mvps. 2002 Brazil with no Ronaldo wouldn't have gotten that far. It is not the goals he scored but also the fear he created in the opposite team. Ronaldinho wasn't the Barza Ronaldinho yet. Finally, in a Spurs analogy -not the best analogy for many reasons, but you may get my point- to me Cannavaro was Duncan and Pirlo was Kawhi.

watch the games. cannavaro was like prime duncan.