Spurs contact Pau Gasol reportedly

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

http://www.slamonline.com/nba/free-agent-pau-gasol-contacted-heat-spurs/


The cost for Gasol could still be prohibitive for the Heat, but there’s little doubt he could be an intriguing part to a supporting cast in Miami. So far, Gasol is still pushing for a $10 million-$12 million annual salary, league sources said.
The NBA champion San Antonio Spurs have inquired with Gasol’s agent Arn Tellem, expressing an interest, sources said, but the Spurs can’t become a legitimate suitor unless Gasol significantly drops his asking price.

Gasol met with Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak in Los Angeles on Tuesday, and ultimately they could become his best chance to get his asking price, if only on a one-year contract.

[smaka]

He wants 10-12 million per year. Story over.

[phxspurfan]

That would be beyond awesome if we got him. He would let Duncan rest for the entire season

[xmas1997]

Gasol stays in L.A. IMHO.

[spursparker9]

He wants 10-12 million per year. Story over.

This~~~~

[superbigtime]

No way can Spurs afford this dude.

[spursparker9]

Pau is 32,33 years old right?

No way he is taking MLE.

[FvckMavs]

Pau is 32,33 years old right?

No way he is taking MLE.

He is 34

[Mr. Body]

If he wants the MLE and vastly reduced playing time and a deeply supporting role, then sure, but in no universe is that happening.

[baseline bum]

I bet he ends up in Chicago. I wonder if Houston is interested, given how awful the pairing between he and Howard was in 2013.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm sure the Spurs just said if he doesn't get a big payday, they'll have the full MLE laying around.

[tholdren]

I bet he ends up in Chicago. I wonder if Houston is interested, given how awful the pairing between he and Howard was in 2013.
yep, dumb-asses will get rid of boozer, only to take on a shittier contract

[xmas1997]

Yeah, just tell him if nothing else develops the Spurs have the MLE stashed somewhere in the office, just give them a few minutes to find it.
:lol

[Budkin]

Would fit perfectly here. Too bad we don't have the money.

[Emperor]

Who knows he may not get that $10mil elsewhere and just may take what we got, since this is probably the best chance he has to winning another title.

[baseline bum]

yep, dumb-asses will get rid of boozer, only to take on a shittier contract

Gasol for $12 million is way better than Boozer for $17 million. :lmao

[DesignatedT]

Miami bound.

[baseline bum]

Who knows he may not get that $10mil elsewhere and just may take what we got, since this is probably the best chance he has to winning another title.

He'll get it in Chicago. They can't open up enough capspace to land Carmelo, so they'll go with Plan B.

[Mel_13]

He'll get it in Chicago. They can't open up enough capspace to land Carmelo, so they'll go with Plan B.

Or he'll take the MLE from Miami and ST will explode.

[dunkman]

The MLE may be around 6M and the Spurs could offer an extra year, to offset some difference and he could save a lot in taxes. The Spurs wont dismantle the championship roster in a S&T. IE, 3 years at 10M in LA vs 4 years at 6M in SA shouldn't be so different. Still, fact is the Spurs seldom attract the best FA's. Hope it turns out to be different this time.

[tholdren]

Gasol for $12 million is way better than Boozer for $17 million. :lmao
Why? both are equally incapable of taking their team to the promised land, so why waste the money?

[xmas1997]

There is no state income tax in Texas too. Florida the same if I'm not mistaken.

[baseline bum]

Why? both are equally incapable of taking their team to the promised land, so why waste the money?

Gasol > Boozer
$12 million < $17 million

It's honestly not that hard to see.

[baseline bum]

Or he'll take the MLE from Miami and ST will explode.

It would be shocking

[Ocotillo]

The Spurs are doing due diligence, they need to let him know, if you want to come here, we want you. Odds are stacked waaaaaay against the Spurs but that is the responsible thing to do. He likely will land with whoever doesn't get Carmelo or back to LA.

[Emperor]

We were able to win the Finley sweepstakes in '06. We can sure as hell win the Gasol one in '14. Ya never know

[spurspokesman]

Miami bound.

[BatManu20]

Convince Pau to sign here for the MLE this season and then tell him you'll sign his brother next summer when Timmy retires so they can dominate together :hat

[siraulo23]

If he's gonna take a paycut, it would be to go to miami, not san antonio lol

[tholdren]

Gasol > Boozer
$12 million < $17 million

It's honestly not that hard to see.

You're right =
Titles with 2014-17/18 Pau Gasol leading the way = 0
Titles with Boozer leading the way = 0

Why swap shit for shit?

[CGD]

Not only would he have to take less, but the spurs need to sell him on being a backup next year

[FireMicoHalili]

Reminds me of last year when Spurs were interested in Monta Ellis armed with only the MLE. People actually thought there was a chance. I mean I know Gasol's washed up but there are loaded teams ready to throw $8M or more at him.

[Big Empty]

would you give up tiago in a sign and trade if this was an option?

[BatManu20]

Gasol will either stay in LA or go to HOU, DAL, or CHI tbh. Kobe WANs him back though so there's a good chance he stays out.

[tmtcsc]

would you give up tiago in a sign and trade if this was an option?

Absolutely not.

[Dizzle]

You're right =
Titles with 2014-17/18 Pau Gasol leading the way = 0
Titles with Boozer leading the way = 0

Why swap shit for shit?

dude Gasol is 10x the player Boozer is.... smarten up, ass.

[tmtcsc]

Gasol has been irrelevant on the Lakers for 2 years now. At his age, he should go East to get another title shot. Chicago would be good. The Miami experiment is over.

[DPG21920]

People are severely underrating Gasol IMO. Sure, the situation in LA was awful (playing with Kobe, then not playing with him and having Kobe heckle you from the bench/twitter). But when Gasol was engaged he was still doing impressive things.

[Nathan89]

If Ben Gordon can get 4.5 mil there is still the possibility of working out a s&t with Bonner plus others.

[ChumpDumper]

People are severely underrating Gasol IMO. Sure, the situation in LA was awful (playing with Kobe, then not playing with him and having Kobe heckle you from the bench/twitter). But when Gasol was engaged he was still doing impressive things.No shit. Dude sleepwalked to 17 ppg and 10 rpg last season.

Spurs aren't going to get him, but it's good form to check in.

[ChumpDumper]

If Ben Gordon can get 4.5 mil there is still the possibility of working out a s&t with Bonner plus others.Probably not. Such a deal wouldn't net much more than the MLE and they wouldn't want the players involved anyway.

[Mal]

Only if badly wants a ring.

[poeticism707]

Would love to have Gasol,

for 8-10m per,

for 3 years.

Gasol is very underrated,

good finisher,

solid defender,

and most importantly,

one of the best

passing big men in the game.

If the Spurs landed him,

and resigned Patty and Boris,

the Spurs would be

INSTANT title favorites next year.

It would be a

unimaginable coup!!!

DO IT FO! ALL IN!

[Nathan89]

Probably not. Such a deal wouldn't net much more than the MLE and they wouldn't want the players involved anyway.

First year mle is 5.3 mil. If we package 5mil in salaries we can take in 7.6mil. We would need someone to take Bonner at 3.2mil, Ayres 1.8, 1rd pick, and a prospect like Bertans.

Very unlikely though.

[Mr. Body]

If playing time (rather than total money) is an issue, I'd consider trading Splitter for assets (and or cap space). Gasol is still very, very good, one of the tops at his position. Start Gasol/Duncan, bring Diaw off the bench after resigning. Too bad he's highly likely to go to one of our major competitors. Best case would be Chicago.

[ChumpDumper]

First year mle is 5.3 mil. If we package 5mil in salaries we can take in 7.6mil. We would need someone to take Bonner at 3.2mil, Ayres 1.8, 1rd pick, and a prospect like Bertans.

Very unlikely though.Super duper unlikely.

[EVAY]

He wants 10-12 million per year. Story over.

[100%duncan]

Why? both are equally incapable of taking their team to the promised land, so why waste the money?

He did it twice with LA smartass.

[100%duncan]

Also, can't give up Splitter for Gasol, our interior D would be shit and the 1-2 punch of him and Manu coming from the bench will be gone.

[Ron Swanson]

@SportsCenter (https://twitter.com/SportsCenter)Thunder have emerged as a leading contender for Pau Gasol, who also has meeting w/ Bulls scheduled. (via @ESPNSteinLine (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine) & @ramonashelburne (https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne))

[Spurtacus]

@SportsCenter (https://twitter.com/SportsCenter)Thunder have emerged as a leading contender for Pau Gasol, who also has meeting w/ Bulls scheduled. (via @ESPNSteinLine (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine) & @ramonashelburne (https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne))

I hope he stays in LA or goes East to the Bulls. I'd hate to see him make the Heat or Thunder better.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You're right =
Titles with 2014-17/18 Pau Gasol leading the way = 0
Titles with Boozer leading the way = 0

Why swap shit for shit?

I have to to agree that you have the shittiest takes rivaling Hopps Czar in ignorance and a requirement for things to be dumbed down.

[DWizz007]

12 million for a declining center. No thanks! He will stay in LA. They can afford that shitty contract.

[szkorhetz]

@SportsCenter (https://twitter.com/SportsCenter)Thunder have emerged as a leading contender for Pau Gasol, who also has meeting w/ Bulls scheduled. (via @ESPNSteinLine (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine) & @ramonashelburne (https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne))
I am pretty sure OKC doesn't have more money to spend than us. Then why would he go to a team which always fell short?

[Baam]

Gasol to OKc would be scary as fuck, they'd be the number one threat to prevent a repeat by such a margin...

[Baam]

I am pretty sure OKC doesn't have more money to spend than us. Then why would he go to a team which always fell short?

He can start there.

[ducks]

be interesting if thunder and lakers work a sign and trade and get gasol more money

[Mnky]

Replacing perkins with Gasol..would be ridiculous. OKC would be the easy favorite in the west. Gasol would kill us in a matchup with OKC too because they'd pull all our size away from the rim with the mid range of gasol and Ibaka. Westbrook and durant would have free reign to the rim every time down....man that would be beastly. They'd still need a bench though to make a deep playoff run.

[ducks]

gasol likes outside shots
Durant does

they still do not have a o coach

[BatManu20]

While Gasol is not the player he used to be, he would still make OKC instantly better., which would obviously be bad news for us.

[baseline bum]

Gasol has been irrelevant on the Lakers for 2 years now. At his age, he should go East to get another title shot. Chicago would be good. The Miami experiment is over.

Miami will almost certainly be back in the Finals next year.

[BatManu20]

Miami will definitely be in the Finals again next year. Indiana is going to get worse this offseason if/when they lose Stephenson. They'd lose to them again even if he was retained.

[tholdren]

dude Gasol is 10x the player Boozer is.... smarten up, ass.

Maybe 5 years ago. Pau has had 3 of his worst seasons in a row, contribution (Win shares) and shooting. His playoff performance has been going south too. Hes 33 and in his 14th year? Again, hes not the piece that's pushing anybody over the edge at this stage, especially chicago. So, again, why get rid of boozer and give you someone who is not that much better, at the end of a career? 10 times better? jesus

[tholdren]

Miami will definitely be in the Finals again next year. Indiana is going to get worse this offseason if/when they lose Stephenson. They'd lose to them again even if he was retained.
stevenson is trash. ghetto baller from NY who has absolutely no concept of the game. Indiana will be fine on the court and financially without him.

[Johnny RIngo]

Too expensive and I'm not sure he'd be the greatest fit. For the MLE, it'd be fantastic value but 10-12 mil would probably make him the 2nd highest paid player on the team.

[G-Dawgg]

I think if the Spurs can sign Gasol they will let Diaw go to another team. They drafted Kyle Anderson to replace Diaw for this exact reason.. Bring in Gasol!!

[Russ]

@SportsCenter (https://twitter.com/SportsCenter)Thunder have emerged as a leading contender for Pau Gasol, who also has meeting w/ Bulls scheduled. (via @ESPNSteinLine (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine) & @ramonashelburne (https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne))

Heard this on ESPN radio LA a few minutes ago. Apparently, it's based on a statement from Pao's agent.

[superbigtime]

Who would you choose at around 10 mill per? Boris or Gasol.

[Spurs Brazil]

‏@ramonashelburne
To follow up @ESPNSteinLine addendums on Pau: Pop's expert minutes regulation & Spurs international roster definitely part appeal.

[TD 21]

Not that I ever bought for a second that he was going to, but had Duncan retired, there's no question in my mind Gasol would have signed with the Spurs. Deep down, I think he'd probably like to anyway, but the money isn't there, the minutes aren't and the fit (defensively) isn't, either.

If Anthony spurs the Bulls, I suspect he ends up with them. If not, I wouldn't be surprised if he re-signed with the Lakers.

[Spurs Brazil]

@ESPNSteinLine
Pau Gasol Addendum No. 2: Hearing Pau, as with OKC, indeed giving legit consideration to San Antonio if he looks at places where $ is scarce

[Captivus]

@SportsCenter (https://twitter.com/SportsCenter)Thunder have emerged as a leading contender for Pau Gasol, who also has meeting w/ Bulls scheduled. (via @ESPNSteinLine (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine) & @ramonashelburne (https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne))

Knowing the thunder they are probably offering a trade for Durant.

[tholdren]

Who would you choose at around 10 mill per? Boris or Gasol.
boris, no brainer.

[benefactor]

484502074496126976

[jhfenton]

484502074496126976

Well that rules out NYK and LAL. :lol

[Nathan89]

I'd be fine with him staying with LA.

[tmtcsc]

Miami will almost certainly be back in the Finals next year.

No sir, don't agree. 5 straight trips to the Finals? Not going to happen. Wade is a shell of his younger, pre-injured self. Chicago will be better with or without Melo.

[SilverSpur]

What if Gasol comes down to 8 million, we don't resign Bonner or Baynes and Diaw takes one for the team. Could we get Gasol?

SHOOTING FOR SIX. :lobt2::flag:

[DMX7]

I'm sure the Spurs just said if he doesn't get a big payday, they'll have the full MLE laying around.

Something like this, probably. We're not stupid enough to give him more than Tim makes.

[Jimcs50]

Would love to have Gasol,

for 8-10m per,

for 3 years.

Gasol is very underrated,

good finisher,

solid defender,

and most importantly,

one of the best

passing big men in the game.

If the Spurs landed him,

and resigned Patty and Boris,

the Spurs would be

INSTANT title favorites next year.

It would be a

unimaginable coup!!!

DO IT FO! ALL IN!


This

[ElNono]

The Bonner replacement? I mean, if he will take the MLE, you gotta take a flier there...

[slick'81]

Spurs have a title locked up if gasol comes in

[Ron Swanson]

Every time I see this thread, I think the title is "Spurs contact Pau Gasol repeatedly". Then I think of this:

http://www.top10films.co.uk/img/swingers_1996_film_mike_leaves_a_phone_message.jpg

[TheGoldStandard]

Every time I see this thread, I think the title is "Spurs contact Pau Gasol repeatedly". Then I think of this:

http://www.top10films.co.uk/img/swingers_1996_film_mike_leaves_a_phone_message.jpg


Great movie

[Jdspur20]

Don't see how OKC can offer anymore than the spurs can, in fact, even after signing mills, spurs still have more cap room than OKC right?

[jhfenton]

Don't see how OKC can offer anymore than the spurs can, in fact, even after signing mills, spurs still have more cap room than OKC right?

The Spurs have no cap room. They have the MLE and biannual exceptions.

Edited to add: OKC also has no cap room, so the MLE is the most they can offer in a straight deal. They might be able to swing something with their trade exception, though for a bit more.

[dbestpro]

Gasol options -
OKC - would never see the ball, too many chuckers
LAL, - see OKC
CHI - Would never see the bench and would breakdown by mid-season,
NYK - See Chi
MIA - would be the best option, unless he finds a team with a coach who knows how to manage minutes, has a share the ball mentality, and is use to international players.

[mkurts]

Lets spread the floor with another jumpshooting big with no defense and a limited post game at the end of his career ........

[murpjf88]

The Spurs have no cap room. They have the MLE and biannual exceptions.

Edited to add: OKC also has no cap room, so the MLE is the most they can offer in a straight deal. They might be able to swing something with their trade exception, though for a bit more.

They could trade or amnesty Perkins and clear a lot of cap space.

[rayray2k8]

Doubt he comes the San Antonio. I see him going more to Chicago if Melo decides to go there. That would be interesting.

[FvckMavs]

Isn't Gasol good friend of Tony?

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 36m
ESPN has learned that Thunder stars Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook made a come-to-OKC pitch directly to Pau Gasol today in Los Angeles

[Spurs9]

:lol at them always listing almost every team as being "frontrunners". They never get it right until he signs.

[baseline bum]

No sir, don't agree. 5 straight trips to the Finals? Not going to happen. Wade is a shell of his younger, pre-injured self. Chicago will be better with or without Melo.

How does that work?

[jhfenton]

They could trade or amnesty Perkins and clear a lot of cap space.

That's true. They do have trade options, and Perkins is one of the few remaining amnesty candidates.

[tmtcsc]

How does that work?

Which part? I see Chicago adding some offensive firepower from a FA (Gasol, Stephenson) and getting Rose back. That alone will put them over the top of an old and depleted Miami team. Lebron is the key to them contending but he isn't getting any additional help in Miami. I have a feeling he just might not be back next year. I have no idea where he would go but it may not be Miami.

[Russ]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 36m
ESPN has learned that Thunder stars Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook made a come-to-OKC pitch directly to Pau Gasol today in Los Angeles

Were they wearing those funny glasses and clothes?

[baseline bum]

They could trade or amnesty Perkins and clear a lot of cap space.

Amnestying Perkins only gets their cap figure to $60 million. Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka alone make $48 million.

[spursparker9]

I be fine with Pau as long as he don't go to OKC or Miami.

But seriously, Pau rather play for Scott Brook than Pop ?

[TheGoldStandard]

I bet Westbrooks pitch was just stand there and give me the ball and let me go to work you won't have to do anything.

[tmtcsc]

Isn't Gasol good friend of Tony?

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 36m
ESPN has learned that Thunder stars Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook made a come-to-OKC pitch directly to Pau Gasol today in Los Angeles

OKC needs Gasol, the Spurs don't. We pick up the phone and say "look at the scoreboard". Our system will give you an opportunity to compete for a championship, extend your career and relieve you of the pressure of being relied on so much.

[baseline bum]

Which part? I see Chicago adding some offensive firepower from a FA (Gasol, Stephenson) and getting Rose back. That alone will put them over the top of an old and depleted Miami team. Lebron is the key to them contending but he isn't getting any additional help in Miami. I have a feeling he just might not be back next year. I have no idea where he would go but it may not be Miami.

Rose looks way more done than Wade. If you put LeBron's Cleveland team around him I'd say he still comes out of the east. That conference is such shit. There's no one even close to the 09 Magic behind Miami in the East.

[tmtcsc]

Were they wearing those funny glasses and clothes?

:lol

[xmas1997]

I bet Westbrooks pitch was just stand there and give me the ball and let me go to work you won't have to do anything.

Spurs would never do this. The Admiral was the last one who did and it was to TD.

[Ron Swanson]

Isn't Gasol good friend of Tony?

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 36m
ESPN has learned that Thunder stars Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook made a come-to-OKC pitch directly to Pau Gasol today in Los Angeles

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/52043141.jpg

[th3answ3r]

If he's gonna take a paycut, it would be to go to miami, not san antonio lol

You sure? lebron might not stay

[Russ]

Rose looks way more done than Wade.

Despite his young age, Rose is a huge question-mark at this point.

Like a pint-sized Oden.

[tmtcsc]

Rose looks way more done than Wade. If you put LeBron's Cleveland team around him I'd say he still comes out of the east. That conference is such shit. There's no one even close to the 09 Magic behind Miami in the East.

Rose has looked great when he's been able to stay on the floor. His injuries can be repaired. Wade's issues are chronic and not getting better. He can't play an entire 82 game schedule anymore. - Much like Manu.

[TheGoldStandard]

Spurs would never do this. The Admiral was the last one who did and it was to TD.

Very true.

[tmtcsc]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/52043141.jpg
:lol

[baseline bum]

Despite his young age, Rose is a huge question-mark at this point.

Like a pint-sized Oden.

I don't think he's a question mark at all. Kobe was better last year than Rose.

[baseline bum]

Rose has looked great when he's been able to stay on the floor. His injuries can be repaired. Wade's issues are chronic and not getting better. He can't play an entire 82 game schedule anymore. - Much like Manu.

Where are you getting this shit? :lol

Rose shot 35% and had a PER of 9.82.

[tmtcsc]

Where are you getting this shit? :lol

Rose shot 35% and had a PER of 9.82.

I'm not judging his capabilities on a 10 game sample size. I wasn't expecting him to be MVP Rose when he returned after missing an entire year of competitive basketball. It will take at least a few months to get his stride back but he'll be fine. He may not be the same explosive player, but he'll be very good.

[Russ]

Rose may well recover.

But I wonder about injured guys who take huge sums of money seemingly without contrition.

I don't think that's a good sign.

It was the first tip-off on who Oden was.

Then there was Kobe's demanding attitude when he contributed nothing except constricting the Lakers' ability to rebuild.

Rose refusing to "recruit" Melo ("it's not my job") fits right in.

Not a good sign if I'm a Bulls fan.

[cd021]

That's true. They do have trade options, and Perkins is one of the few remaining amnesty candidates.

Probably wouldn't make sense to amnesty Perkins at this point, they'd drop to $59.5 million and have only 4+ million to spend.They would need to probably move Collision and Roberson ($3.4 million combined to give them about $7.5 million to spend. They can just stay over the cap and use the MLE. The problem is that if they give that MLE to Gasol it leaves them with 12 players on $75.2 million, and add one more player on the minimum.

They still need some depth on the bench Jackson, Lamb, Adams, Collision/ Perkins unless Pau comes off the bench. With a hole at SF with Butler and Sef probably gone.

They would have a very full front court with Perkins, Ibaka, Gasol, Adams, Colison, & McGary

[baseline bum]

I'm not judging his capabilities on a 10 game sample size. I wasn't expecting him to be MVP Rose when he returned after missing an entire year of competitive basketball. It will take at least a few months to get his stride back but he'll be fine. He may not be the same explosive player, but he'll be very good.

:lmao

His entire game is his athleticism. You were fine using that sample size until I posted his shitty stats. Even if he gets to 2011 form that's still nowhere close to LeBron's current form. But Rose ever being an all-star again? I doubt it. I don't think he has the work ethic to even be Phoenix Penny Hardaway.

[jhfenton]

Probably wouldn't make sense to amnesty Perkins at this point, they'd drop to $59.5 million and have only 4+ million to spend.They would need to probably move Collision and Roberson ($3.4 million combined to give them about $7.5 million to spend. They can just stay over the cap and use the MLE. The problem is that if they give that MLE to Gasol it leaves them with 12 players on $75.2 million, and add one more player on the minimum.

They still need some depth on the bench Jackson, Lamb, Adams, Collision/ Perkins unless Pau comes off the bench. With a hole at SF with Butler and Sef probably gone.

They would have a very full front court with Perkins, Ibaka, Gasol, Adams, Colison, & McGary

Sounds right. I haven't done the math on OKC's salary cap options.

[tmtcsc]

Rose refusing to "recruit" Melo ("it's not my job") fits right in.
Not a good sign if I'm a Bulls fan.

He cared enough to be there with his teammates when Melo showed up. He worked out to show Melo that he's feeling good. I think he's got some friends on that team that may be traded to make the Melo thing work and he doesn't want to be a part of that. If Melo comes in and is not part of a S&T then that would be ideal.

[baseline bum]

Rose may well recover.

But I wonder about injured guys who take huge sums of money seemingly without contrition.

I don't think that's a good sign.

It was the first tip-off on who Oden was.

Then there was Kobe's demanding attitude when he contributed nothing except constricting the Lakers' ability to rebuild.

Rose refusing to "recruit" Melo ("it's not my job") fits right in.

Not a good sign if I'm a Bulls fan.

I'd honestly give Kobe a better chance of regaining some of his previous form. Kobe is way less reliant on athleticism than is Gangster Disciple.

[lefty]

Why would he go to shithole San Antonio if he can stay in Cali with the right contract ?

[baseline bum]

Why would he go to shithole San Antonio if he can stay in Cali with the right contract ?

Why did Howard go to shithole Houston when LA2 was offering him $30 million more?

[lefty]

Why did Howard go to shithole Houston when LA2 was offering him $30 million more?
Kirby, tbh

[cd021]

OKC, apparently, doesn't want to give out deals beyond 2 years in length (ripped from hoophype.com/rumors) because of Durants FA.

If MLE is really in play, Gasol would be the 4th big on a championship team. Duncan at 28 mpg, Splitter at 20 mpg and Diaw at 24 mpg (last year) he could carve out 20-24 minutes a game (not including rest games) Not to mention playing with Duncan, Parker, Ginobili and Diaw would allow him for some of the easy baskets in his career.

Ibaka is going to be around 33 mpg with Adams at 20mpg and Perkins/ Collison 20mpg not to mention OKC going small with KD at the 4. It would probably be less minutes for Paul

[tholdren]

lets get perkins

[313]

We were able to win the Finley sweepstakes in '06. We can sure as hell win the Gasol one in '14. Ya never know

[Ron Swanson]

lets get perkins

Fuck no.

[baseline bum]

OKC, apparently, doesn't want to give out deals beyond 2 years in length (ripped from hoophype.com/rumors) because of Durants FA.

If MLE is really in play, Gasol would be the 4th big on a championship team. Duncan at 28 mpg, Splitter at 20 mpg and Diaw at 24 mpg (last year) he could carve out 20-24 minutes a game (not including rest games) Not to mention playing with Duncan, Parker, Ginobili and Diaw would allow him for some of the easy baskets in his career.

Ibaka is going to be around 33 mpg with Adams at 20mpg and Perkins/ Collison 20mpg not to mention OKC going small with KD at the 4. It would probably be less minutes for Paul

I can't picture Gasol wanting to be the fourth big though.

[tmtcsc]

:lmao
You were fine using that sample size until I posted his shitty stats.

I said "Rose has looked great when he's been able to stay on the floor." That means when he's stayed on the floor, not just when he came back from injury. Both his injuries were on different knees and unrelated. He's going to have to get through the rust again but I think he'll be back to form. He felt great physically when he came back the first time. Be fair and look at his entire career. His crappy stats over those 10 games had nothing to do with being a gimp on the floor.

[RD2191]

Fuck no.
:lol

[007nites]

MVPau asking for 12 mil a year :lol

[letmk]

Who would you choose at around 10 mill per? Boris or Gasol.

For another team, Gasol; for the Spurs already having Timmy and Tiago, Diaw.

[baseline bum]

I said "Rose has looked great when he's been able to stay on the floor." That means when he's stayed on the floor, not just when he came back from injury. Both his injuries were on different knees and unrelated. He's going to have to get through the rust again but I think he'll be back to form. He felt great physically when he came back the first time. Be fair and look at his entire career. His crappy stats over those 10 games had nothing to do with being a gimp on the floor.

Why would I look at his stats from before his injuries when that was a completely different player? He has lost of lot of his athleticism. I don't buy the rust argument, as he had a full year of rehab and a training camp to get ready last season.

[murpjf88]

With Boozer amnestied, Chicago could make a play for both Melo and Gasol.

[T Park]

Rose has looked great when he's been able to stay on the floor. His injuries can be repaired. Wade's issues are chronic and not getting better. He can't play an entire 82 game schedule anymore. - Much like Manu.

If they can, why haven't they?

[letmk]

Rose has looked great when he's been able to stay on the floor. His injuries can be repaired. Wade's issues are chronic and not getting better. He can't play an entire 82 game schedule anymore. - Much like Manu.

In theory, agreed with the analysis. Still, if I were a NBA manager or Vegas bookkeeper, I'd have zero confidence in Rose. Maybe he is not "done" done, but he was not good at all last season even before the second injury.

[tholdren]

Fuck no.
Oh, I was really thinking that would be a possibility.

[BatManu20]

Bunch of teams will likely be interested in Boozer. I could see him in Miami next season.

[rjv]

Perkins is going to kick durant and westbrook's asses now

[tholdren]

Perkins is going to kick durant and westbrook's asses now
yep, I cant wait to watch out-of-control-brook drive against perkins. will be nice.

[Reck]

What is the max Spurs can offer him and keep all the pieces we do have intact?

[Kindergarten Cop]

What is the max Spurs can offer him and keep all the pieces we do have intact?

The full MLE.

[Russ]

The full MLE.

What is that in dollars? 4.5 million?

[Reck]

The full MLE.

Damn, that's too bad.

Gasol would have been a sweet pick up. No way he's taking half of what he is currently asking though.

[tholdren]

The full MLE.
I would offer Pau 1/2 the MLE, but before I did that, I would make sure I couldnt get Parsons. (no blue font)

[letmk]

What is the max Spurs can offer him and keep all the pieces we do have intact?

I was wondering how much OKC can pay him without sign-and-trade. It should not be more than what the Spurs can pay, right?

[Kindergarten Cop]

What is that in dollars? 4.5 million?

~$5.3M

[Kindergarten Cop]

Damn, that's too bad.

Gasol would have been a sweet pick up. No way he's taking half of what he is currently asking though.

There's a lot of discussion in another thread with reports that he is actually considering the MLE from teams like OKC and San Antonio.

[DPG21920]

I was wondering how much OKC can pay him without sign-and-trade. It should not be more than what the Spurs can pay, right?

Correct. Without the S&T, they have the MLE just like the Spurs.

[Kindergarten Cop]

I was wondering how much OKC can pay him without sign-and-trade. It should not be more than what the Spurs can pay, right?

Basically they can spend a bit more than the Spurs, but that would push them over the tax threshold (which they have never shown a willingness to pay before). Considering the savings due to no state income tax in Texas, money would be a "push" between OKC and SA.

EDIT: I guess the "bit more" that I mentioned would come via a S/T using their trade exception, right?

[TheGoldStandard]

What are the limitations to the amount of years we can get him for and restrictions for pay during those years. If he's looking for 10-12 that can't be for more than 2 seasons at his age

[Marcus Bryant]

Sure, for what the Spurs have in cap flexibility, which is unlikely.

Anyways, Spurs need to use the MLE on backcourt depth with the Mills and Ginobili injuries.

[xmas1997]

I would be very surprised if Gasol becomes a Spur, very very surprised.

[DesignatedT]

I would be very surprised if Gasol becomes a Spur, very very surprised.

All things considered, everyone should be surprised if it were to happen. It's unlikely. Everyone seems to realize that. We can dream though!

[AFBlue]

The Spurs would be crazy not to consider Pau for MLE, but I seriously question the fit alongside Duncan and/or Splitter.

[Marcus Bryant]

Would be great fit plus you have nice 4 man 4/5 rotation with Diaw that would keep everyone's minutes manageable during the regular season.

[DPG21920]

Basically they can spend a bit more than the Spurs, but that would push them over the tax threshold (which they have never shown a willingness to pay before). Considering the savings due to no state income tax in Texas, money would be a "push" between OKC and SA.

EDIT: I guess the "bit more" that I mentioned would come via a S/T using their trade exception, right?

Correct - the only tool OKC has (as currently constructed) to offer more than Pau is the Trade Exception. Unless they shed salary, then using that TE puts them in the luxury tax. However, it might not be that difficult for them to shed that salary..

[DPG21920]

Crazy that people are questioning the fit of Pau. It's even crazier they are questioning the fit given the fact that if he is a Spurs it would be for the MLE most likely so who cares.

[baseline bum]

Sure, for what the Spurs have in cap flexibility, which is unlikely.

Anyways, Spurs need to use the MLE on backcourt depth with the Mills and Ginobili injuries.

Mike Miller or Steve Blake would be nice, and while I think MLE is their price range, I'm not sure they'd want to come here for limited minutes. I fucking hate Carter and wouldn't want him here. Marion could be interesting.

[cd021]

What is that in dollars? 4.5 million?

$5.3 million over 3 (about $16 million)

[cd021]

lets get perkins

worst big man in the NBA just awful

[BadOne]

What's the cap situation now that Mills is re-signed? I assume Diaw would get the rest at which point the MLE become available, is that right? I would definitely offer the full MLE to Pau. Wonder what we could do to shed Ayer's contract.

[Mr. Body]

If Pau comes I can see Splitter getting traded. I don't know how you keep so many big men happy with PT. But hey, stranger things have happened.

[DPG21920]

$5.3 million over 3 (about $16 million)

You can do a 4th year as well.

[DesignatedT]

You can do a 4th year as well.

What's the rule on possibly front loading an MLE contract and adding a player option at the end of it?

[TheGoldStandard]

You can do a 4th year as well.

That's a little bit of insurance for an aging player.

[TheGoldStandard]

If Pau comes I can see Splitter getting traded. I don't know how you keep so many big men happy with PT. But hey, stranger things have happened.

splitter is passive and wouldn't complain.

[DPG21920]

What's the cap situation now that Mills is re-signed? I assume Diaw would get the rest at which point the MLE become available, is that right? I would definitely offer the full MLE to Pau. Wonder what we could do to shed Ayer's contract.

Without knowing Patty's exact contract details, it's really difficult to be 100% accurate, but the cap is really not that relevant. Even assuming Patty's contract is a flat 4M a year, that puts the Spurs at 57.5M in true salary (not including cap holds).

Spurs don't really need "cap space" to sign Boris, but they can sign him to really whatever he wants (assuming a realistic estimate). At that point, assuming that Boris's deal doesn't put the team over the Luxury Tax (no chance), MLE comes into play.

Shedding Ayres really doesn't do anything for the Spurs in reality since they don't appear to be pursuing cap space. However, if they do want cap space, then moving Ayres/CoJo/Daye become more important. As does renouncing Boris and Matt Bonner. and retracting the qualifying offer to Baynes. Then delaying signing Mills until they use their cap space.

[DPG21920]

If Pau comes I can see Splitter getting traded. I don't know how you keep so many big men happy with PT. But hey, stranger things have happened.

Well, putting our best guessing hats on and speaking anecdotally, one would assume a positive factor in Pau choosing the Spurs would be minutes being managed. Most everyone seems to enjoy it as it keeps you fresh and prolongs your career. On top of that, Tim's future is not clear and a lot of minutes may open up in year 2 or 3 or 4.

[DesignatedT]

If Pau comes I can see Splitter getting traded. I don't know how you keep so many big men happy with PT. But hey, stranger things have happened.
Well it could only be crowded for one year depending on what Tim decides but he indicated he seriously thought about calling it a career this off season and I personally think this will probably be his last year.

[ducks]

that is why I am not sold on gasol coming unless they promise gasol will play more next season with Duncan gone

[TheGoldStandard]

Our medical crew aside from Phoenix is also top notch. I doubt Pop cares but given the opportunity there is much that Pau could provide off the bench.

[BadOne]

Without knowing Patty's exact contract details, it's really difficult to be 100% accurate, but the cap is really not that relevant. Even assuming Patty's contract is a flat 4M a year, that puts the Spurs at 57.5M in true salary (not including cap holds).

Spurs don't really need "cap space" to sign Boris, but they can sign him to really whatever he wants (assuming a realistic estimate). At that point, assuming that Boris's deal doesn't put the team over the Luxury Tax (no chance), MLE comes into play.

Shedding Ayres really doesn't do anything for the Spurs in reality since they don't appear to be pursuing cap space. However, if they do want cap space, then moving Ayres/CoJo/Daye become more important. As does renouncing Boris and Matt Bonner. and retracting the qualifying offer to Baynes. Then delaying signing Mills until they use their cap space.

DPG wit that goodz indeed. Thx man. Perhaps I'd prefer them cut Ayres for the sake of clearing that roster spot, on the off chance Pau would take the full MLE. With the signing of Cotton, that leaves only 1 spot. If Baynes accepts the offer rendered, getting Gasol wouldn't be a possibility unless they cut someone else.

[DesignatedT]

The spurs won't promise anything.

[Russ]

Splitter > Pao

[DPG21920]

What's the rule on possibly front loading an MLE contract and adding a player option at the end of it?

You can't really front load the deal. The first year can be up to 5.305M, then you can have up to 4.5% raises.

[DesignatedT]

Gotcha.

[hommeaetage]

pau is going to be 34 next week, he knows he doesn't want to play any big minutes and want to be as fresh as possible. Splitter doesn't seem like the type who complains about minutes, on top of that Duncan may call it quit next year anyways. If The Spurs were to acquire Pau (long shot anyways), minutes would be the least of my worries

[DPG21920]

DPG wit that goodz indeed. Thx man. Perhaps I'd prefer them cut Ayres for the sake of clearing that roster spot, on the off chance Pau would take the full MLE. With the signing of Cotton, that leaves only 1 spot. If Baynes accepts the offer rendered, getting Gasol wouldn't be a possibility unless they cut someone else.

Spurs would probably end up retracting the qualifying offer to Baynes instead of moving Ayres to deal with that issue if that was the case.

[Ice009]

Reminds me of last year when Spurs were interested in Monta Ellis armed with only the MLE. People actually thought there was a chance. I mean I know Gasol's washed up but there are loaded teams ready to throw $8M or more at him.

I was one of the ones that wanted Monte last off season, and if I'm not mistaken, the only option wasn't with the MLE. I think it was mainly on Manu signing for a little less so that the Spurs could offer him a bit more money over the MLE.

Not many people even wanted him in that scenario either. They didn't think he'd be a good fit or player. Seeing the way that he played in Dallas, I think he would have been even better here. I watched him quite a bit with Goldenstate and I thought he could be really good on a great team like the Spurs and being coached by Pop.

A lot of people said he was a chucker, sucked on D and just wasn't worth it. I disagreed then, still disagree with them now.

[Johnny RIngo]

I'm not judging his capabilities on a 10 game sample size. I wasn't expecting him to be MVP Rose when he returned after missing an entire year of competitive basketball. It will take at least a few months to get his stride back but he'll be fine. He may not be the same explosive player, but he'll be very good.

MVP Rose was massively overrated. 2013 Tony Parker was just as good, if not better than 2011 Rose. People thinking Rose is going to come back from multiple injuries and make the Bulls a contender have to wake the fuck up already. Heat don't even need a healthy Wade to beat Chicago. Lebron and Bosh is still more than enough.

[letmk]

If Pau comes I can see Splitter getting traded. I don't know how you keep so many big men happy with PT. But hey, stranger things have happened.

Splitter is 4-1/2 years younger than Gasol. It's unwise to trade him away even if Gasol comes.

[Mel_13]

If the Lakers realize that they can't get much better through free agency, they may just kick the can down the road to next summer. In that scenario, OKC is much better partner than the Spurs for a Gasol S&T. Better for the Lakers and better for Gasol.

[Knoxxx]

We need to try for Gasol if only to try to keep him off OKC and Heat our two chief rivals.

[Malik Hairston]

Gasol really doesn't realistically fit with the Spurs at the moment IMO..he would be phenomenal as a bench big with the Spurs, but why would he accept a bench role?..

Chicago is his best option, tbh..

[ThePop]

I don't want him there but OKC is a really good fit for him. If I'm Gasol I would choose OKC over SA since their championship window extends beyond next season.

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

I don't want him there but OKC is a really good fit for him. If I'm Gasol I would choose OKC over SA since their championship window extends beyond next season.

Or Pau could help extend the Spurs championship window by being a very capable replacement for Tim when he retires...

[TheGreatYacht]

Pau would start over Splitter, easily.

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

We need to try for Gasol if only to try to keep him off OKC and Heat our two chief rivals.

[Malik Hairston]

Pau would start over Splitter, easily.

Pau and Duncan wouldn't be able to guard anybody in today's NBA, tbh:lol..

[TheGreatYacht]

Pau and Duncan wouldn't be able to guard anybody in today's NBA, tbh:lol..
Roy Hibbert :lol

[Ice009]

Or Pau could help extend the Spurs championship window by being a very capable replacement for Tim when he retires...

He could also help to get Marc Gasol here too if the Spurs are interested in him when they've got the cap room.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Pau would start over Splitter, easily.

Then the Spurs get PnR'd to death. Bad fit.

[Uriel]

Gasol also has to consider the cultural implications of being in certain locker rooms. He would be the lone Spanish-speaking Hispanic in a locker full of African American men in OKC and Miami. But in San Antonio, there are two other Spanish-speaking Latin American men, as well as a breadth of international diversity.

He would also end up in a system that manages his minutes and thrives on passing. San Antonio is the best fit for him.

[Thebesteva]

Gasol has been awful since 2011. He's not worth the price and the amount of minutes he wants.

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Gasol also has to consider the cultural implications of being in certain locker rooms. He would be the lone Spanish-speaking Hispanic in a locker full of African American men in OKC and Miami. But in San Antonio, there are two other Spanish-speaking Latin American men, as well as a breadth of international diversity.

He would also end up in a system that manages his minutes and thrives on passing. San Antonio is the best fit for him.

Absolutely agree with this, on a related note not sure if the city demographics would play a role in Gasol's decision but the San Antonio demographics are very similar to the demographics of Los Angeles with both cities possessing a very heavy Hispanic influence...

[hsxvvd]

Gasol also has to consider the cultural implications of being in certain locker rooms. He would be the lone Spanish-speaking Hispanic in a locker full of African American men in OKC and Miami. But in San Antonio, there are two other Spanish-speaking Latin American men, as well as a breadth of international diversity.

He would also end up in a system that manages his minutes and thrives on passing. San Antonio is the best fit for him.

Isn't Ibaka Spanish? Sefolosha is also Swiss and Adams is a Kiwi.

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Isn't Ibaka Spanish? Sefolosha is also Swiss and Adams is a Kiwi.

Good point Ibaka does speak Spanish and is on the Spanish national team...

[100%duncan]

Roy Hibbert :lol

So you want to suck like Indiana? Good for you.

[99 Problems]

I bet Westbrooks pitch was just stand there and give me the ball and let me go to work you won't have to do anything.

Yep, Pau down with Spurs with real point guards, wow, nice.

[spursparker9]

Gasol expressed admiration for the Spurs in an interview with Spanish web site Marca.com in May.

“The Spurs’ players maybe don’t rack up statistics, but the team and the coach they have, to me, seems like a very good option,” he said then. “In the end, I’m more interested in a team than an individual player and how I would adjust and be worked into the system.”


Wouldn't Pau contradict himself if he choose Westbrook over SA ?

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Wouldn't Pau contradict himself if he choose Westbrook over SA ?

Yes

[spursparker9]

OKC sent KD and Westbrook to talk to Pau.

Does SA ever sent their players to help make a pitch to free agents before?

[superbigtime]

For another team, Gasol; for the Spurs already having Timmy and Tiago, Diaw.
Yes, Boris is just such an outstanding fit. I hope Boris takes less, like 7-8

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Yes, Boris is just such an outstanding fit. But for 10 mill I would rather have Gasol. I hope Boris takes less, like 7-8

You'd rather have 3 centers and 0 PFs?

[superbigtime]

You'd rather have 3 centers and 0 PFs?
Well, I think Pau can do a few things Boris can't but Boris has so much more X factor. I also would hate to see Pau go to a division rival. I thought Tim is 'best PF of all time' etc. I just hope Boris gets signed soon.

[exstatic]

The thing is, if SA structures a deal as 2 years with an opt out in 2015, I think they could actually pay Gasol a decent contract next summer, not MAX, but maybe 9-10M. If Tim and Manu roll off as expected next summer, that's $17M, and Kawhi has a very low cap hold, about $4M, if they wait and don't extent him, but offer him a NEW contract next summer.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Well, I think Pau can do a few things Boris can't but Boris has so much more X factor. I also would hate to see Pau go to a division rival. I thought Tim is 'best PF of all time' etc. I just hope Boris gets signed soon.

Pau is the better overall player but Boris is a much better fit with the current Spurs team and system. The Spurs have had a lot of trouble finding minutes for Duncan and Splitter together for a while now and the only reason why this has worked against certain teams is because Splitter is an elite PnR defender ( also they're both intelligent players with high IQ ). With a playoff rotation 3 of Duncan, Pau and Tiago OKC and Miami would destroy the Spurs playing small. Duncan hasn't been a PF for a good few years now.

[cd98]

While it's unlikely that Gasol goes to the Spurs, i do think Euro players respect the Spurs and Pop more than American players. The Spurs have a good rep for appreciating Euro talents and implementing them in a system rather than trying to make them play like American players. Problem is Gasol has to give up minutes, touches, and money and would be no more of a contender than if he played for Miami or OKC with more money and more of a role.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

worst big man in the NBA just awful

Offensively yes, but defensively Perk is a top 5 one-on-one defender in the post. Without him, OKC doesn't get past Memphis. Look at Duncan posting up Ibaka and Perk. That's tells you all you need to know whose the best one-on-one post defender on OKC is.

[AFBlue]

Crazy that people are questioning the fit of Pau. It's even crazier they are questioning the fit given the fact that if he is a Spurs it would be for the MLE most likely so who cares.

I think you'd get killed defensively if you had Duncan and Gasol on the floor together, both are Centers defensively at this point in their careers. So, is one exclusively backing up the other? If so, who gets the majority minutes? And then there's Splitter. How many minutes does he get and what are the rotation sets that make sense with him in them? And then there's Diaw. Unless we're saying Gasol/Diaw is an either/or discussion, you now have four legit bigs (three of them Centers) and 96 minutes to allocate.

I'm not saying Pop can't do it. And I even said if it's for the MLE you have to do it. I'm just saying it's not the best fit assuming the roster stays as it was constructed last year.

[coachmac87]

People sayin Pau wouldn't be a good fit are fucking retarded..Spurs obviously think he'd fit in just fine....and they're thoughts are the only one that matters. Getting Gasol is a steal with the MLE. Spurs may not be going hard at him like other teams..but he'd fit fine.


So shit the hell up and let the FO do their job

[tholdren]

People sayin Pau wouldn't be a good fit are fucking retarded..Spurs obviously think he'd fit in just fine....and they're thoughts are the only one that matters. Getting Gasol is a steal with the MLE. Spurs may not be going hard at him like other teams..but he'd fit fine.


So shit the hell up and let the FO do their job

MELTDOWN LEADS TO SPELLING ERRORS!!!!!

[cd98]

Pau can score on the block or the perimeter. He can pass. He'd fit great in the system and would protect us against any big getting injured. Yes, we'd lose some defense in small ball, but would destroy teams down low.

[PingPong]

Isn't Ibaka Spanish? Sefolosha is also Swiss and Adams is a Kiwi.

Being in same NT doesn't means they are friends or even like each other. Some spaniards are xenophobe and don't like black people who they call 'monkeys'.

[spot2180]

lets get perkins

Baynes is better than Perkins right now.

[cd98]

From all accounts, Spurs have the best locker rom atmosphere in the league. After sharing a locker room with Kobe, that may be reason enough to come. I still doubt he goes to SA, but if we didn't have Splitter, I'd bet he'd sign here.

[cd98]

After playing with Kobe, do you think Gasol wants to play with Westbrook?

[Seventyniner]

If Gasol is willing to take the MLE and the Thunder only want to offer two years, the Spurs can easily trump that by going all the way to four years. If Duncan really does retire after this season, Gasol can slide right into the starting lineup beside Splitter.

[ceperez]

If Gasol is willing to take the MLE and the Thunder only want to offer two years, the Spurs can easily trump that by going all the way to four years. If Duncan really does retire after this season, Gasol can slide right into the starting lineup beside Splitter.

This is Duncan's last year, so if the Spurs can figure out how to structure a contract with Pau Gasol covering center for the post-Duncan/post-Manu years, then I'm sure he'll be interested.

[spursfan4ever]

OKC sent KD and Westbrook to talk to Pau.

Does SA ever sent their players to help make a pitch to free agents before?

As I recall, when POP convinced Finley to come to the Spurs, reports back then where saying POP walked in, said hello and put the rings and the championship DVD on the table in front of Finley and that's all it took to convince Finley to be a Spur. Of course, I don't know how true this story is or how it really played out but POP should do the same with Gasol. That story stuck in my head on how smooth POP can be.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Spurs fans are dumb. Debating whether or not Pau would fit in here. We might average 140 a game with him here, ball would never touch the floor.

[ducks]

Zach Lowe ZachLowe_NBA · 15h

If Spurs sign Pau, the ball might never touch the floor on offense for them all season

[siraulo23]

scenario: Pau takes a paycut and decides to go to a contender, guess which team he's not going to? :lol

[PingPong]

Zach Lowe Zach (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11982)Lowe_NBA · 15h

If Spurs sign Pau, the ball might never touch the floor on offense for them all season


Spurs still have Parker... and Leonard, wich can't pass.

[BatManu20]

Still think he takes the money and signs with a team like Chicago or Houston. Pau's a proud guy and I don't think he wants to be a bench player. That plus the MLE just doesn't sound appealing to him IMO, even if it is his best shot at winning. He'd be a perfect fit here though, no doubt.

[Russo21]

Pau would get plenty enough minutes here. Consider Duncan, Splitter, Diaw and Gasol split big man duties that's apx 24 minutes each. Splitter is bound to miss a few games with injury and Gasol could get at least 10+ more minutes a game with Tiago out. Tim will get some random DNP-OLD where Gasol could get an extra 10+ minutes a game also. Tim and Tiago could get in foul trouble where Gasol would need to play extra. Pop's a smart dude, he can fit someone of Paus talents in if he wants to. He only played 31 minutes per game last year so it's not like 7 minutes less is horrible. And he missed 22 games, chances are he misses 22 games this year and then our other bigs can get more burn. Also Ayres played 13mpg in 73 games and Boner played 11 minutes in 61 games and Baynes played 9mpg in 53 games. Give Gasol all their minutes. I never want to see Ayres play for San Antonio again. If we want Gasol and he wants us we will get him and he will be a luxury not a necessity. If we don't get him then chances are we'll be just fine without him.

[Mr. Body]

This is reminiscent of 2003-2004 when we barely missed out on Karl Malone. He instead went to Los Angeles and was instrumental in keeping us from a repeat.

I hate the idea of Gasol to OKC. I'd sign him just to keep him away, but obviously he'd be incredible for us. I'm not sure Brooks can figure out how to create an offense that uses him well - it will still be iso, iso, iso. But giving Westbrook and Durant another player that can actually score will be a superheadache for us.

[spursparker9]

TBH, I think Pau will take the money and the playing time in Chicago.

East is very weak and the only team standing in their Chicago's way will be a weaken Miami Heat.

[Kindergarten Cop]

I know it sounds weird, but am I the only one that is actually a bit MORE optimistic that Gasol signs with us considering that we are not listed as the favorites to land him? Considering how many times we've been "the leading candidate" or "favorite" for signing so many key FAs over the last decade during either free agency or after players clear waivers, I find it oddly refreshing that we are one of the top choices but not necessarily the front runners - even if it is due to limiting my own expectations.

[100%duncan]

Cmon Pau. Do it.

[jag]

Gasol has been awful since 2011. He's not worth the price and the amount of minutes he wants.

Well the Spurs don't have the money or the minutes he wants so if they were to get him (not happening) it would be under favorable terms.

[xmas1997]

On ESPN TV the Spurs are not even in the mix anymore for Gasol, it's between Chicago, L.A., OKC, Houston, Miami, and N.Y.

[ducks]

On ESPN TV the Spurs are not even in the mix anymore for Gasol, it's between Chicago, L.A., OKC, Houston, Miami, and N.Y.

makes it more likely to happen

[tmtcsc]

Here's how you sell it: Pau, join us this year and you'll be playing alongside your brother next year. That's right, I said it. Spurs target Marc Gasol next year to replace Duncan.

[100%duncan]

Here's how you sell it: Pau, join us this year and you'll be playing alongside your brother next year. That's right, I said it. Spurs target Marc Gasol next year to replace Duncan.

Pretty much. Still makes us a legit contender with that but clearly beaten by OKC with TD, Manu, Pop probably gone.

[BatManu20]

Here's how you sell it: Pau, join us this year and you'll be playing alongside your brother next year. That's right, I said it. Spurs target Marc Gasol next year to replace Duncan.

Yea that's exactly what I said too a couple pages back. It'd be a perfect fit and transition for both parties. Unfortunately it's highly unlikely.

[King]

On ESPN TV the Spurs are not even in the mix anymore for Gasol, it's between Chicago, L.A., OKC, Houston, Miami, and N.Y.

I can't think Houston is in consideration at all considering how much of a disaster it was with Pau/Howard in LA.

[Mel_13]

On ESPN TV the Spurs are not even in the mix anymore for Gasol, it's between Chicago, L.A., OKC, Houston, Miami, and N.Y.

They're guessing just as much as we are.

[tmtcsc]

Yea that's exactly what I said too a couple pages back. It'd be a perfect fit and transition for both parties. Unfortunately it's highly unlikely.

Doh! Sorry, I missed that. I kept hearing how 2015 was going to be a great FA year and looked at who was available. Marc Gasol would be fantastic on our team. I like him more than Pau I think.

Realistically, Pau should go to Chicago. He can bring the most value to that team, get paid more money and compete for a Ring. He's not a fan of cold weather though. He's needed in OKC but they would still have to battle through a tougher Western conference. If he stayed in the West and wanted a chance at another Ring, San Antonio is the right fit for his talents. Best team, best coach, best system.

As for Pop, I don't see him retiring after next year. I think Timmy does but I'm not sold on Manu leaving either. As we can see by Manu's insistence on playing for Argentina again, the dude can't seem to just walk away. It's in his blood. I'd love for Tim to keep playing but I just don't think its going to happen.

[Malik Hairston]

Spurs fans are dumb. Debating whether or not Pau would fit in here. We might average 140 a game with him here, ball would never touch the floor.

Gasol as a starter is absolutely a poor fit, tbh, I don't think there's much of an argument against it..

If he accepts a 25 MPG bench role, he would be an amazing fit, but I don't see why he would accept it when he could get a starting job with OKC or Miami, and a job as a focal point with Chicago..hopefully he's willing to take a bench role with the Spurs, though..

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Gasol as a starter is absolutely a poor fit, tbh, I don't think there's much of an argument against it..

Problem is, that's really the only fit he has on this team. Gasol isn't going to accept a role to be the fourth big off the bench.. and he probably wouldn't like coming on after Diaw too.. he's the better player than Diaw right now, but the Spurs system isn't like other teams roster.

I wouldn't mind Gasol to get good minutes, and even start in certain matches.

[Mugen]

Pau in Miami would be fun as hell to watch tbh. They wouldn't be better than the Spurs but that's a monster squad regardless of what else they do in the offseason.

[xmas1997]

I don't see how he fits in San Antonio, plus he is already 34 or will be on the 6th.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

I don't see how he fits in San Antonio, plus he is already 34 or will be on the 6th.

So what?

[Ice009]

Here's how you sell it: Pau, join us this year and you'll be playing alongside your brother next year. That's right, I said it. Spurs target Marc Gasol next year to replace Duncan.

I already mentioned that earlier in the thread. If they are interested in Marc, then they should say that to him, but they can only take that approach if they really are interested in Marc.

Also, I'd tell him that he wouldn't be on the bench his whole time here. I'd try and sell him on being seamless fit for whenever Tim decides to retire. There will be minutes for him in that case.

[xmas1997]

Now ESPN has it down to L.A. if the Lakers can get Melo who Kobe has cut short his vacation to come and persuade, OKC, Chicago, New York, and a long shot Miami.
Houston and San Antonio are no longer in the discussions for Gasol.

[Jimcs50]

Now ESPN has it down to L.A. if the Lakers can get Melo who Kobe has cut short his vacation to come and persuade, OKC, Chicago, New York, and a long shot Miami.
Houston and San Antonio are no longer in the discussions for Gasol.


BS

[tmtcsc]

Unless Woj says it, I wouldn't believe what ESPN reports. Not even from Pau. :lol

[spursfan4ever]

makes it more likely to happen

Is there something you know that you would like to share with us.....?

:meeting:

[Dverde]

I think the Spurs are somewhat interested, but I think they are really just trying to drive up Pau's price.

[tholdren]

I think the Spurs are somewhat interested, but I think they are really just trying to drive up Pau's price.
yes