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Mr.Bottomtooth
07-02-2014, 12:45 PM
San Antonio Spurs guard Manu Ginobili has a stress fracture in his right leg and is unlikely to represent Argentina in the FIBA Basketball World Cup in Spain this summer, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Ginobili, 36, was diagnosed with the early stages of a stress fracture in his exit physical with the Spurs. It's an injury that appears to have developed late in San Antonio's championship season, sources told Yahoo Sports.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--manu-ginobili-has-stress-fracture-in-right-leg-163704451.html

Our guys really toughened up for #5.

FvckMavs
07-02-2014, 12:46 PM
wtf?

Flawless
07-02-2014, 12:47 PM
Injured once again :depressed

RD2191
07-02-2014, 12:47 PM
Awww fuck. Get in here Nono.

MB20
07-02-2014, 12:47 PM
CIA POP

And fact check for Woj required

TheGoldStandard
07-02-2014, 12:47 PM
Blessing in disguise. Allows his body to rest while he rehabs

eDizzle20
07-02-2014, 12:48 PM
Could be a blessing in disguise.

Random5843
07-02-2014, 12:49 PM
Hey Agent, any info on this?

daslicer
07-02-2014, 12:49 PM
Just read the article and Woj stated it wasn't too bad of an injury. It takes 2 month's for recovery and he should be ready by the time training camp starts. Its kind of a blessing in disguise this injury. Manu gets to rest this summer and not play in these intl games risking further injury and wear tear on his body.

Mikeanaro
07-02-2014, 12:49 PM
Thank god.

lefty
07-02-2014, 12:49 PM
Blessure in disguise

FvckMavs
07-02-2014, 12:50 PM
CIA Pop move?

buttsR4rebounding
07-02-2014, 12:50 PM
Exactly...

Mr.Bottomtooth
07-02-2014, 12:51 PM
Blessing in disguise. Allows his body to rest while he rehabs


Could be a blessing in disguise.


Its kind of a blessing in disguise this injury.


Blessure in disguise

Good that we're all on the same page here.

FireMicoHalili
07-02-2014, 12:51 PM
"Aww yeah Manu gets to rest" vs "Aww no Manu you're injured and can't represent ARG"

it's me
07-02-2014, 12:52 PM
CIA Pop .... no questions.

Mel_13
07-02-2014, 12:52 PM
Wait a minute.

The Spurs just destroyed LeBron and the two-time defending NBA champs with critical contributions from a midget with a torn rotator cuff and a TOSB with a broken leg?

:downspin:

phxspurfan
07-02-2014, 12:53 PM
great news TBH. I wonder how the haters will spin this tho

Ron Swanson
07-02-2014, 12:53 PM
Get some rest, Manu.

Spur|n|Austin
07-02-2014, 12:53 PM
Blessing in disguise. Allows his body to rest while he rehabs


Wait a minute.

The Spurs just destroyed LeBron and the two-time defending NBA champs with critical contributions from a midget with a torn rotator cuff and a TOSB with a broken leg?

:downspin:

:toast :tu

jhfenton
07-02-2014, 12:53 PM
Blessure in disguise

:lol OK. I laughed.

FvckMavs
07-02-2014, 12:53 PM
Maybe Pop talked to Manu that he really doesn't want him to play in the summer after knowing Mills will miss 7 months.

jARS mEsH sEt
07-02-2014, 12:54 PM
This is excellent news. That selfish shitbag would've worn himself into an even worse injury had he been cleared to play in the summer. Now, he's forced to give this lingering injury that comes at the heels of a championship some much needed rest.

The ideal, of course, would've been a scenario where we win a championship without Manu injuring himself and he decides not to play summer ball, but if an injury is what it takes for him to abstain from playing for Argentina then I'll take it. Manu's too selfish for that "ideal" scenario to be plausible, so this is the next best thing.

jARS mEsH sEt
07-02-2014, 12:55 PM
CIA POP

And fact check for Woj required

What the hell does that even mean? Speak English.

loveforthegame
07-02-2014, 12:55 PM
I'm not sure I can handle any more Spurs news like this. :depressed

will_spurs
07-02-2014, 12:56 PM
What the hell does that even mean? Speak English.

Quite straightforward: it's not truth until Woj has reported it.

Gummi Clutch
07-02-2014, 12:56 PM
this is great news. Hopefully its painful and will remind Manu why he shouldn't be playing over the summer.

ducks
07-02-2014, 12:56 PM
lets get some positive news with a good deal for diaw

jARS mEsH sEt
07-02-2014, 12:57 PM
Quite straightforward: it's not truth until Woj has reported it.

Except, you know, it was originally reported by Woj, although in truth I don't agree with your faulty logic to begin with. That's straight up an argument from authority.

baseline bum
07-02-2014, 12:57 PM
Parker, Ginobili, and Mills beat to shit and yet the Spurs run off one of the most impressive postseasons in recent history, culminating in 5.

FireMicoHalili
07-02-2014, 12:58 PM
Does anyone have contact details for Ibaka's doctor

loveforthegame
07-02-2014, 12:59 PM
Now we really know why the Spurs are interested in so many guards.

NASpurs
07-02-2014, 12:59 PM
I would have taken a severe ankle sprain equivalent to knock him out of the NT...

DesignatedT
07-02-2014, 01:01 PM
This could actually be a good thing

Mr.Bottomtooth
07-02-2014, 01:01 PM
Now we really know why the Spurs are interested in so many guards.

He's expected to come back before the season starts. If he does miss any time, I assume it would be picked up by Green/Belinelli and spot minutes to Anderson.

Budkin
07-02-2014, 01:01 PM
Total blessing in disguise!

justinandimcool
07-02-2014, 01:02 PM
wow our guys giving their limbs for #5, makes it even sweeter tbh

superbigtime
07-02-2014, 01:02 PM
Wow huge news. Sorry Manu can't play, but this is the best kind of injury at this point, if you put a positive spin on it.

timtonymanu
07-02-2014, 01:02 PM
This would be such a shitty offseason if the Spurs didn't get #5. :lol

Mugen
07-02-2014, 01:03 PM
Not sure if it's been mentioned yet but this could be a blessing in disguise, right gais????

will_spurs
07-02-2014, 01:03 PM
Except, you know, it was originally reported by Woj, although in truth I don't agree with your faulty logic to begin with. That's straight up an argument from authority.

I was just translating. Don't shoot the messenger.

Aztecfan03
07-02-2014, 01:03 PM
Mills yesterday, Manu today. Who will it be tomorrow?

jARS mEsH sEt
07-02-2014, 01:03 PM
Total blessing in disguise!

Hahaha I get it because everyone else said the same thing so this is stated tongue-in-cheek right hahahaha what a knee slapper.

:rolleyes

.... :lmao when BNSFs attack

jARS mEsH sEt
07-02-2014, 01:04 PM
I was just translating. Don't shoot the messenger.

Your translation can't possibly be correct given that the article in question is written by Woj. I considered your translation for all of 5 seconds before you even made your post.

boutons_deux
07-02-2014, 01:05 PM
so AU and AR lose help from their Spurs players.

Both should be super rested for the Champonship repeat season

Aztecfan03
07-02-2014, 01:05 PM
I was just translating. Don't shoot the messenger.

I believe you mistranslated.

spursparker9
07-02-2014, 01:06 PM
Kudo to CIA Pop for faking the MRI scan or whatever

Old School 44
07-02-2014, 01:07 PM
lets get some positive news with a good deal for diaw

This just reported. Diaw played the Finals with fractures in both arms. Surgery today, out 8 weeks.

Budkin
07-02-2014, 01:07 PM
Hahaha I get it because everyone else said the same thing so this is stated tongue-in-cheek right hahahaha what a knee slapper.

:rolleyes

.... :lmao when BNSFs attack

No, I honestly think it's a blessing in disguise because it keeps him from playing this summer. Seriously.

Aztecfan03
07-02-2014, 01:09 PM
No, I honestly think it's a blessing in disguise because it keeps him from playing this summer. Seriously.

Yeah I thought yours was just agreeing. Mugen's is tongue-in-cheek though.

will_spurs
07-02-2014, 01:10 PM
Your translation can't possibly be correct given that the article in question is written by Woj. I considered your translation for all of 5 seconds before you even made your post.

For whatever reason I thought the article was by Stein. Anyway, back to square 1.

Did anybody mention this looked like a blessing in disguise?

xmas1997
07-02-2014, 01:11 PM
Luck plays such an integral part in any championship. The Spurs luck out with two injuries that are not career ending to the players yet keep those same players from leaving or playing too much.
Now.
What about Diaw?
The million dollar question.

manufan10
07-02-2014, 01:12 PM
I bet it happened on his highlight dunk. :lol

jARS mEsH sEt
07-02-2014, 01:13 PM
I'm waiting for the Manutard defense force to come in and whine about how everyone is selfish for celebrating Manu's injury :lmao

gameFACE
07-02-2014, 01:14 PM
Manu needed a break this summer....

xmas1997
07-02-2014, 01:15 PM
Luck plays such an integral part in any championship. The Spurs luck out with two injuries that are not career ending to the players yet keep those same players from leaving or playing too much.
Now.
What about Diaw?
The million dollar question.

I really hate being happy to hear bad news for two players that I really like but with injuries, yet I am, for the obvious selfish reasons. Manu won't be playing for his national team, and Patty will sign as a Spur.

jARS mEsH sEt
07-02-2014, 01:15 PM
Manu needed a break this summer....

Frd53vbCHLg

kobyz
07-02-2014, 01:16 PM
Manu can do what he wants, it's his life.

TheGreatYacht
07-02-2014, 01:19 PM
Parker, Ginobili, and Mills beat to shit and yet the Spurs run off one of the most impressive postseasons in recent history, culminating in 5. this

TheGreatYacht
07-02-2014, 01:19 PM
Manu can do what he wants, it's his life.
:lol

TheGreatYacht
07-02-2014, 01:20 PM
I'm waiting for the Manutard defense force to come in and whine about how everyone is selfish for celebrating Manu's injury :lmao

xmas1997
07-02-2014, 01:21 PM
This just reported. Diaw played the Finals with fractures in both arms. Surgery today, out 8 weeks.

:lmao
He's next.

kobyz
07-02-2014, 01:22 PM
At least they still have Messi to play...

Spur|n|Austin
07-02-2014, 01:23 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qWe64IZ1FOY/TbVcJn6jPFI/AAAAAAAAAbU/k4feuAnyJA4/s1600/blessings-in-disguise.gif

http://thebackyarden.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/A-blessing_in_disguise-490x225.jpg

http://livealivehealing.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/BlessingsInDisguise.gif

xmas1997
07-02-2014, 01:23 PM
Would it be amazing if Anderson turned out to be so good, and such a perfect fit for the Spurs, that he won rookie of the year?
Naw, too good to be true, luck only stretches so far.
:lol

Dex
07-02-2014, 01:23 PM
Wow. Shame for Manu. He may never get another chance to represent Argentina.

Already been noted, but amazing props to both him and Patty for being warriors and delivering 5.

manufan10
07-02-2014, 01:25 PM
484398631928086528

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gnsf0946
07-02-2014, 01:30 PM
am I the only one who thinks this is a blessing in disguise?

TimDunkem
07-02-2014, 01:31 PM
No.

ManuTastic
07-02-2014, 01:33 PM
Just read the article and Woj stated it wasn't too bad of an injury. It takes 2 month's for recovery and he should be ready by the time training camp starts. Its kind of a blessing in disguise this injury. Manu gets to rest this summer and not play in these intl games risking further injury and wear tear on his body.

Amen.

spurs10
07-02-2014, 01:33 PM
All I could think of was how Manu played so badass in game 5. He turned the tide....and that dunk! Get well soon Manu!

ducks
07-02-2014, 01:33 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 17m

Sources: Stress fracture will sideline Spurs' Manu Ginobili for two months, likely cost him World Championships. http://yhoo.it/1lTKKRw

Seventyniner
07-02-2014, 01:34 PM
am I the only one who thinks this is a blessing in disguise?

Yes, you're the only one.

gameFACE
07-02-2014, 01:36 PM
Frd53vbCHLg

Why, thank you

CIAPop
07-02-2014, 01:36 PM
Yes, yes blessing in disguise. Nothing to see here people. Move along.

Manudona
07-02-2014, 01:36 PM
Report: Manu Ginobili has stress fracture in leg; unlikely to play in World Championships
http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/531496

From a different source

024
07-02-2014, 01:37 PM
Unlike the Mills injury, there actually is a blessing in disguise with this injury. A good summer rest is just what Ginobili needs. Mills on the other hand, will be out until February/March of next year. I find it hard to envision Mills being ready for the playoffs. And that's if the torn rotator cuff doesn't significantly affect him in the long run.

Parker, Ginobili, and Mills all playing with debilitating injuries in the playoffs. Such warriors :cry

ThePop
07-02-2014, 01:38 PM
I've had stress facture in my right shin. It's not a huge deal and just needs some time to heal. Though I'm not 37 years old.

Mel_13
07-02-2014, 01:39 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--manu-ginobili-has-stress-fracture-in-right-leg-163704451.html

Our guys really toughened up for #5.

The most interesting line in the article:

Ginobili is seeking a second medical opinion before proceeding, sources said.

Can you imagine the meltdown here if Manu gets clearance from another doctor and plays for Argentina anyway?

Epic potential there.

tholdren
07-02-2014, 01:43 PM
Blessing in disguise. Allows his body to rest while he rehabs
yep

phxspurfan
07-02-2014, 01:43 PM
The most interesting line in the article:

Ginobili is seeking a second medical opinion before proceeding, sources said.

Can you imagine the meltdown here if Manu gets clearance from another doctor and plays for Argentina anyway?

Epic potential there.


That would be a real betrayal there. Not the "I'm healthy, playing really well, just won a ring for y'all and now I'll go rep my country for the last time 'betrayal.'"

elbamba
07-02-2014, 01:43 PM
Rest this year and play for the national team when you retire from the Spurs.

tholdren
07-02-2014, 01:43 PM
The most interesting line in the article:

Ginobili is seeking a second medical opinion before proceeding, sources said.

Can you imagine the meltdown here if Manu gets clearance from another doctor and plays for Argentina anyway?

Epic potential there.

then trade his dumb ass

ducks
07-02-2014, 01:44 PM
manu play anyhow spurs could trade his sorry injured ass

benefactor
07-02-2014, 01:44 PM
Could this be a blessing in disguise? Not sure. Need more data.

pikkiwoki
07-02-2014, 01:47 PM
Blessing in disguise. Allows his body to rest while he rehabs

Yeah I wasn't too thrilled when he said he was gonna play this summer for Argentina. Now he has no choice but to rest up. :toast

024
07-02-2014, 01:48 PM
This injury is no joke. If I recall correctly, Jrue Holiday and Javale Mcgee both had stress fractures. Their teams were "optimistic" they could return within 1-2 months but then it turned out both needed surgery, sidelining them for entire season.

davidbowie
07-02-2014, 01:49 PM
we're falling apart

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
07-02-2014, 01:50 PM
Maybe he still plays injured or gets the proceeding done and hurries his healing process to play in the World Championships, just to take a huge dump on some of the cocksuckers that live in this forum.

:cry mnau plz :cry
:cry dn't play euro :cry
:cry betrai :cry
:cry fck u italy southmerica sucks :cry

Mr. Body
07-02-2014, 01:56 PM
Take it easy. Make sure it's not worse than it is. Rest by the pool. Make some more babies.

spurraider21
07-02-2014, 02:00 PM
The most interesting line in the article:

Ginobili is seeking a second medical opinion before proceeding, sources said.

Can you imagine the meltdown here if Manu gets clearance from another doctor and plays for Argentina anyway?

Epic potential there.
:lol jARS mEsH sEt would lose his shit

ducks
07-02-2014, 02:00 PM
Maybe he still plays injured or gets the proceeding done and hurries his healing process to play in the World Championships, just to take a huge dump on some of the cocksuckers that live in this forum.

:cry mnau plz :cry
:cry dn't play euro :cry
:cry betrai :cry
:cry fck u italy southmerica sucks :cry

yeah ruin his body to show up the posters on spurstalk
that will make him great

crc21209
07-02-2014, 02:00 PM
Damn, tough break for the Spurs, but of course would be good news if he stays home and rests this Summer..

baseline bum
07-02-2014, 02:01 PM
Manu can do whatever the fuck he wants after winning this team 5.

it's me
07-02-2014, 02:02 PM
:lmao another 20 pages long thread where manutards and tonytards go at each other releasing their real life frustrations :lol

MaineSpursFan
07-02-2014, 02:08 PM
I remember someone starting a thread showing manu noticeably limping after one of the finals games.

Nathan89
07-02-2014, 02:09 PM
Probably hurt himself on that showboating dunk in game 5.

ElNono
07-02-2014, 02:10 PM
Awww fuck. Get in here Nono.

I'm here, rob... just heard about it.

get well soon, Gino

siraulo23
07-02-2014, 02:10 PM
Wtf is going on? :lol

at this point even if manu comes back from injury, theres always a risk for re injury and that he may never play at a higher level than he did in the spurs championship run at his age

oh my, im seriously not even gonna check ST if manu somehow decides to play through this :lol

Kent_in_Atlanta
07-02-2014, 02:14 PM
Manu: I'm in! See you in Spain 2014!

God: Rest.

ElNono
07-02-2014, 02:16 PM
The most interesting line in the article:

Ginobili is seeking a second medical opinion before proceeding, sources said.

Can you imagine the meltdown here if Manu gets clearance from another doctor and plays for Argentina anyway?

Epic potential there.

Argie news report that he's looking for an alternative to surgery, which is what would force him to be out two months. Will update if I read anything else from there.

siraulo23
07-02-2014, 02:16 PM
This would be such a shitty offseason if the Spurs didn't get #5. :lol

True :lol

no offseason news can ruin 5 tbh, nobody can take away 5 from td and the spurs

BG_Spurs_Fan
07-02-2014, 02:17 PM
Has anyone mentioned this might be a blessing in disguise yet?

Mel_13
07-02-2014, 02:17 PM
Argie news report that he's looking for an alternative to surgery, which is what would force him to be out two months. Will update if I read anything else from there.

Thanks.

Old School 44
07-02-2014, 02:19 PM
Probably did it right here, but it was worth it. :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqNyfbOCcAAQB9e.jpg

r0drig0lac
07-02-2014, 02:21 PM
blessing dis ... whatever

Trill Clinton
07-02-2014, 02:22 PM
:lmao another 20 pages long thread where manutards and tonytards go at each other releasing their real life frustrations :lol

MB20
07-02-2014, 02:23 PM
What the hell does that even mean? Speak English.

It said 4-times NBA All Star originally...it is correct now.

TMTTRIO
07-02-2014, 02:24 PM
now that I think about it I thought he was saying something about a foot problem during the Thunder series trying to get away from talking about it. I wonder if this is what it was.

BatManu20
07-02-2014, 02:27 PM
Hopefully a blessing in disguise. Rest up Manu.

ducks
07-02-2014, 02:27 PM
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 16m

RT @Monroe_SA: Do not believe manuginobili has ruled out playing for Argentina in World Cup but faces very tough decision he soon must make

Mel_13
07-02-2014, 02:28 PM
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 16m

RT @Monroe_SA: Do not believe manuginobili has ruled out playing for Argentina in World Cup but faces very tough decision he soon must make

Here we go...

BG_Spurs_Fan
07-02-2014, 02:29 PM
Wait a minute.

The Spurs just destroyed LeBron and the two-time defending NBA champs with critical contributions from a midget with a torn rotator cuff and a TOSB with a broken leg?

:downspin:

Manu's leg.
Patty's shoulder.
Parker's hamstring.
Duncan's knee.
Ayers's brain.
etc.

:cry Lebron's cramps.
:cry Needs more help.

TheRemix
07-02-2014, 02:31 PM
The Decision

SupremeGuy
07-02-2014, 02:44 PM
Holy shit wtf? Damn, him and Mills did some pretty fucking impressive shit. Like everyone else has said, this seems like a blessing in disguise. Now he doesn't have to play summer ball and the crazy argentinian fanatics won't cry third world country tears over it. Everyone wins. :toast

gameFACE
07-02-2014, 02:48 PM
Manu's leg.
Patty's shoulder.
Parker's hamstring.
Duncan's knee.
Ayers's brain.
etc.

:cry Lebron's cramps.
:cry Needs more help.

Team effort!

SupremeGuy
07-02-2014, 02:51 PM
Maybe he still plays injured or gets the proceeding done and hurries his healing process to play in the World Championships, just to take a huge dump on some of the cocksuckers that live in this forum.

:cry mnau plz :cry
:cry dn't play euro :cry
:cry betrai :cry
:cry fck u italy southmerica sucks :cryLook at this faggot. :lol

baseline bum
07-02-2014, 02:52 PM
Look at this faggot. :lol

He mad because we made fun of kickball yesterday tbh

RD2191
07-02-2014, 02:59 PM
He mad because we made fun of kickball yesterday tbh
:lol

xmas1997
07-02-2014, 03:03 PM
It won't matter how many opinions he gets, a stress fracture is still a significant injury and will show up every time.

313
07-02-2014, 03:07 PM
this is great news. Hopefully its painful and will remind Manu why he shouldn't be playing over the summer.

SupremeGuy
07-02-2014, 03:08 PM
It won't matter how many opinions he gets, a stress fracture is still a significant injury and will show up every time.Just wait, some crazy ass fucker from some shitty ass 3rd world country in south america will give him the green light. :lol

littlecoyotecoin
07-02-2014, 03:15 PM
Take it easy. Make sure it's not worse than it is. Rest by the pool. Make some more babies.

Great, now Manu to miss several months due to carpet burns.

silverblk mystix
07-02-2014, 03:18 PM
This is a positive factor in the Spurs chances to repeat next season...

Juggity
07-02-2014, 03:20 PM
:cry Lebron's cramps.
:cry Needs more help.

Honestly, it's impossible to play with cramps. I'm not sure why people are making fun of Lebron for that shit. You quite literally cannot support your own weight. You can at least stand and run if you have a minor stress fracture or whatever.

xmas1997
07-02-2014, 03:24 PM
Honestly, it's impossible to play with cramps. I'm not sure why people are making fun of Lebron for that shit. You quite literally cannot support your own weight. You can at least stand and run if you have a minor stress fracture or whatever.

I don't think anyone is making fun. But physical ailments are part of the game too.
Just lousy luck for James is all it is.

LongtimeSpursFan
07-02-2014, 03:26 PM
Let's hope Diaw is the next one to claim an injury.

Random5843
07-02-2014, 03:50 PM
More News: Boris Diaw with early stages of stress fracture on both feet due to overweight, out 4 months.
Baynes has refracture his rib, it is now exposed, will miss 3 months.
Tiago Splitter with a sore toe, out 7 weeks.
Kawhi with a rare x-ray imaging on both hands, doctors not sure if they're still growing, out 2 months for precaution.
Bellineli with... wait Italy didn't qualify? OK he's right.

Dizzle
07-02-2014, 05:08 PM
blessing in disguise

TMTTRIO
07-02-2014, 05:14 PM
by the way didn't Manu have this before and needed surgery to fix it. In a way I wish he would just call it a career and retire (What better way then to end it with a championship) but I understand if he wants to stick around for one more year. What better way then to end it with a championship.

Nathan89
07-02-2014, 05:21 PM
How long does it take players to recover if they need surgery after 2 months?

xmas1997
07-02-2014, 05:25 PM
KSAT-TV sports says Manu is still waiting on the outcome of his second opinion, but it isn't looking good for him to play for his national team. Should know something more definite later today.

Spurtacus
07-02-2014, 05:42 PM
Rest up and get ready for October.

Skull-1
07-02-2014, 05:44 PM
Just shows the guy can't hold up for a season even when he takes time off.

Brazil
07-02-2014, 05:49 PM
wait till Manu healing is rather quick and dude play the wc :lol

Brazil
07-02-2014, 05:50 PM
This is a positive factor in the Spurs chances to repeat next season...

:lol Spurs have no chance to repeat, Pop is scrub right ?

~O~
07-02-2014, 05:56 PM
This is wonderful news for people who didn't want him to play international ball. He'll be rested.

wildcardX
07-02-2014, 05:58 PM
Mills yesterday, Manu today. Who will it be tomorrow?

Jason Kidd wants to make a trade for Ayres to the Bucks and is willing to give the Spurs a draft pick for him?..................Ok, maybe I'm reaching too far on that one.

poeticism707
07-02-2014, 05:59 PM
Thank god.

This.

Sit down Manu,

rehab,

and learn a little wisdom.

100%duncan
07-02-2014, 06:10 PM
WTF. You can't play for FIBA anymore, stop fighting it Gino. Sheesh.

tmtcsc
07-02-2014, 06:13 PM
Your kids miss you Manu. This is a sign from God. :devil

See what I did there? He doesn't believe in God..

diego
07-02-2014, 06:14 PM
dumb asses celebrating one of their best players having a serious injury and simultaneously calling him selfish despite him playing with said injury and delivering (another) ring. and the worst part is Im not surprised.

ElNono
07-02-2014, 06:18 PM
by the way didn't Manu have this before and needed surgery to fix it.

He did have the same injury also in his right leg in 2009, but did not have surgery on it back then.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-ginobiliinjured040609

LakerHater
07-02-2014, 06:23 PM
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EVAY
07-02-2014, 06:23 PM
Good luck, Manu. Here on ST, we are (almost) all behind you!!

Maybe if his second opinion confirms that he can get by without surgery again, he could decide to just go with the Argentinian team and just not play for them?

DesignatedT
07-02-2014, 06:24 PM
:lmao at Manu.

ElNono
07-02-2014, 06:24 PM
484475808195436544

The injury exists but my participation in the Worlds will depend on how the healing progresses in the next 20+ days. I'm still optimistic.

tholdren
07-02-2014, 06:45 PM
484475808195436544

The injury exists but my participation in the Worlds will depend on how the healing progresses in the next 20+ days. I'm still optimistic.

Im optimista that if he plays we trade

TheGoldStandard
07-02-2014, 06:47 PM
I hope that his injury lingers until about September 25th where he automatically heals and is ready for next season. Honestly he needs to shut it down and he should know better and he should know his body.

SanDiegoSpursFan
07-02-2014, 06:50 PM
Hopefully all this talk about him wanting to play is just a way of not disappointing the Argentine fans and he's planning to take the summer off.

EVAY
07-02-2014, 06:53 PM
Hopefully all this talk about him wanting to play is just a way of not disappointing the Argentine fans and he's planning to take the summer off.

That's kind of what I've been hoping.

Johnny RIngo
07-02-2014, 06:54 PM
Can Argentina fuck off already and leave Manu alone? Having a 37 year old play off-season basketball is bad enough but to force the issue while he's still recovering from an injury is just shameful. Argentina's basketball federation should be fucking embarrassed - still relying on a guy near retirement to carry that corpse of a team.

RD2191
07-02-2014, 06:58 PM
Can Argentina fuck off already and leave Manu alone? Having a 37 year old play off-season basketball is bad enough but to force the issue while he's still recovering from an injury is just shameful. Argentina's basketball federation should be fucking embarrassed - still relying on a guy near retirement to carry that corpse of a team.
This is a truth nuke. I'm also kind of disappointed in Manu even saying that he'll try to give it a go. I understand the man loves his country and his fans but he also owes a lot to the Spurs. He brings in revenue with his huge fanbase but the Spurs have also taken care of him. Sure, he may of been underpaid but he has always been injury prone. Just hope he gets healthy and dedicates himself to the Spurs at least one final time.

ElNono
07-02-2014, 06:59 PM
Im optimista that if he plays we trade

I actually see disappointment in your future if he decides to play.


Can Argentina fuck off already and leave Manu alone?

I don't think ARG has a say on the decision. They will wait for him, but it's gonna be his call.

Skull-1
07-02-2014, 07:25 PM
This is a truth nuke. I'm also kind of disappointed in Manu even saying that he'll try to give it a go. I understand the man loves his country and his fans but he also owes a lot to the Spurs. He brings in revenue with his huge fanbase but the Spurs have also taken care of him. Sure, he may of been underpaid but he has always been injury prone. Just hope he gets healthy and dedicates himself to the Spurs at least one final time.


It sure was a truth nuke.

So is what you wrote. Frankly, he is so injury prone he prob can't take a wizz without spraining his nutsack.

TD 21
07-02-2014, 07:26 PM
I always found both and decision and timing of the announcement, that he was going to play in the World Cup, suspicious. I'd imagine this was known before he made the announcement, but he announced he'd play in order quell the inevitable backlash he'd have received in Argentina for not playing.

Skull-1
07-02-2014, 07:27 PM
I always found both and decision and timing of the announcement, that he was going to play in the World Cup, suspicious. I'd imagine this was known before he made the announcement, but he announced he'd play in order quell the inevitable backlash he'd have received in Argentina for not playing.

I considered that, too. Time will tell.

ElNono
07-02-2014, 07:35 PM
I suspect if there's no improvements in the next week or so, he'll go under the scalpel and that will be that.

I'll post any news from down south as they come out.

spurraider21
07-02-2014, 07:36 PM
Im optimista that if he plays we trade
trade who?

EVAY
07-02-2014, 07:36 PM
I don't think ARG has a say on the decision. They will wait for him, but it's gonna be his call.


Of course it is going to be his call. Some posters here have trashed other team members so relentlessly for playing for their national teams that they have to try to assert that a decision to do just that is being forced on Manu.

Manu has well and truly earned the right to make this decision for himself, whatever it is.

I just happen to hope, selfishly, that he decides not to risk playing until next season for the Spurs.

But given the nature of a stress fracture, it seems to me that Coach needs to be even more careful with his minutes next year because his body really doesn't seem to handle too much unrelieved work without serious consequences.

SpurPadre
07-02-2014, 07:37 PM
I still say he will be at the Summer games but...as a towel-waiver on the bench.

superbigtime
07-02-2014, 07:49 PM
Manu is nuts. He thrives on walking the thin line. If he's not in too much pain he'll play.

Cherry
07-02-2014, 07:53 PM
"Para los que se preocuparon por la noticia de hoy: la lesión existe. Mi participación en el mundial dependerá de cuánto mejore en estos 20+ días. Sigo siendo optimista."

Fuck. The fracture is real.



http://5.media.todaysbigthing.cvcdn.com/13/93/2f2b7c6cab620267270308cecd760db6.gif

tholdren
07-02-2014, 07:55 PM
trade who?
goddamn blue font man

Cherry
07-02-2014, 07:57 PM
Argie news report that he's looking for an alternative to surgery, which is what would force him to be out two months. Will update if I read anything else from there.

2008 again?

Stop Manu

ElNono
07-02-2014, 08:01 PM
Of course it is going to be his call. Some posters here have trashed other team members so relentlessly for playing for their national teams that they have to try to assert that a decision to do just that is being forced on Manu.

Manu has well and truly earned the right to make this decision for himself, whatever it is.

I just happen to hope, selfishly, that he decides not to risk playing until next season for the Spurs.

But given the nature of a stress fracture, it seems to me that Coach needs to be even more careful with his minutes next year because his body really doesn't seem to handle too much unrelieved work without serious consequences.

I'm on the record I rather he doesn't play, but that's an academic discussion at this point. I already translated a writeup he made on how he feels and his reasons for playing (before the injury). Everybody will have their own opinion (including me), and that's fine, even though it doesn't really matter.

He's actually been surprisingly healthy the last two of seasons. IIRC, he missed less games than Kawhi in both seasons. But he's older. He will take longer to heal, and certain injuries now could easily spell the end for him.

I'm thrilled and grateful for what he gave us last season. He was instrumental throughout the playoffs. Hope he has one more season in him, we can always use that kind of lift.

Skull-1
07-02-2014, 08:14 PM
He missed less games than Kawhi in both seasons.

Apples to oranges in too many ways to list.

ElNono
07-02-2014, 08:15 PM
:lol okay

ManuLoco
07-02-2014, 08:21 PM
Manu, Messi would play for Argentina on a wheel-chair! Now that we are not winning the football WC I had all my hopes we would win the basketball WC... I'm in tears man!

slick'81
07-02-2014, 08:24 PM
Just rest up for the season Manu

EVAY
07-02-2014, 09:13 PM
He's actually been surprisingly healthy the last two of seasons. IIRC, he missed less games than Kawhi in both seasons. But he's older. He will take longer to heal, and certain injuries now could easily spell the end for him.
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I agree with you. I would add, however, that some of the reason that he has been more durable over the last two years has been the extent to which Pop has managed his minutes and b2b games. My only point was that, even without playing last summer, going through the longest season possible last season, followed by a virtually longest possible season this year, he now has a (nother) stress fracture. That may be entirely coincidental, but it may also indicate that his minutes will have to be monitored and maybe even curtailed even more by the Coach this year than has been the case for the last two years. And that will be true even if he doesn't play for the NT this summer, imo.

adonis827
07-02-2014, 09:16 PM
Quite straightforward: it's not truth until Woj has reported it.

didn't woj erroneously reported jefferson's amnesty?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/spurs-amnesty-clause-jefferson-183700156--nba.html

woj is not really perfect

RuffnReadyOzStyle
07-02-2014, 09:20 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--manu-ginobili-has-stress-fracture-in-right-leg-163704451.html

Our guys really toughened up for #5.

Bad news for Manu, great news for Spurs fans. The guy needs rest!


CIA POP

Not sure he could sway a doctor's ethics, but it does make sense from the team's perspective.

ElNono
07-02-2014, 09:37 PM
I agree with you. I would add, however, that some of the reason that he has been more durable over the last two years has been the extent to which Pop has managed his minutes

No doubt. The Spurs also sent a physical trainer with him last summer and changed his diet and workouts. Hopefully they can apply some more of that magic for next season.

DOMV
07-02-2014, 09:49 PM
He would have played for ARG...but now cannot due to injury......Manu remains a national hero and preserves himself to go for a repeat. I'll say genius at work!

Ron Swanson
07-02-2014, 09:55 PM
I still say he will be at the Summer games but...as a towel-waiver on the bench.

So he'll have a torn rotator cuff soon?

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
07-02-2014, 10:07 PM
This is a truth nuke. I'm also kind of disappointed in Manu even saying that he'll try to give it a go. I understand the man loves his country and his fans but he also owes a lot to the Spurs. He brings in revenue with his huge fanbase but the Spurs have also taken care of him. Sure, he may of been underpaid but he has always been injury prone. Just hope he gets healthy and dedicates himself to the Spurs at least one final time.

I was digging your post until...


but he also owes a lot to the Spurs

:lol he doesn't owe San Antonio shit.

Floyd Pacquiao
07-02-2014, 10:10 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/applause.gif things are falling into place for our championship defense

Ice009
07-02-2014, 10:22 PM
No doubt. The Spurs also sent a physical trainer with him last summer and changed his diet and workouts. Hopefully they can apply some more of that magic for next season.

Any idea how drastic his diet change was? I asked a similar question in the thread where he said he's playing for the national team a couple of weeks ago, but no-one really answered. I truly believe if he is on a much better diet, it will make a huge difference to him in the long run, and I think that is a big reason he played so well this season. Also, a change it diet usually takes a while before you start getting the full benefits of it.

JR3
07-02-2014, 10:29 PM
This is great news in my opinion.

ElNono
07-02-2014, 10:49 PM
Any idea how drastic his diet change was? I asked a similar question in the thread where he said he's playing for the national team a couple of weeks ago, but no-one really answered. I truly believe if he is on a much better diet, it will make a huge difference to him in the long run, and I think that is a big reason he played so well this season. Also, a change it diet usually takes a while before you start getting the full benefits of it.

He talked about it at the start of the season, something about eating much more fish and proteins in general. I don't think he went into too many details though.

keepinitwill
07-02-2014, 11:05 PM
This is good news (lust like Patty). They will be fresher for the season. I know they wanted to rep their country, but hey.

mudyez
07-02-2014, 11:15 PM
Hope he still is with the team when they come to Germany in Oct. (even if he doesn't play).

littlecoyotecoin
07-03-2014, 12:47 AM
He talked about it at the start of the season, something about eating much more fish and proteins in general. I don't think he went into too many details though.

I think he needs to mix in a glass of milk.

littlecoyotecoin
07-03-2014, 12:52 AM
El Contusion collects leg injuries like this dude collects stamps.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lN3J4BHVjgM

Gervin44Silas13
07-03-2014, 07:38 AM
good fuck argentina.....

Skull-1
07-03-2014, 07:40 AM
He would have played for ARG...but now cannot due to injury......Manu remains a national hero and preserves himself to go for a repeat. I'll say genius at work!


CIA Manu ? ? ?

Skull-1
07-03-2014, 07:40 AM
I think he needs to mix in a glass of milk.
:lol :lol

diego
07-03-2014, 10:01 AM
Now all we need is for tim Tony kawhi boris tiago and danny to break something, that way everyone will be super rested for the playoffs, CIA!

littlecoyotecoin
07-03-2014, 10:16 AM
Oh, there will we real and fake injuries galore. Those two inactive roster spots seats are going to be like musical chairs.

Mel_13
07-03-2014, 10:19 AM
Mike Monroe tweeted that Manu would hold a press conference at the Buenos Aires airport tomorrow morning, 7AM central time.

Mugen
07-03-2014, 10:20 AM
Mike Monroe tweeted that Manu would hold a press conference at the Buenos Aires airport tomorrow morning, 7AM central time.

Announcing his retirement from NT competition tbh.

Mel_13
07-03-2014, 10:22 AM
Announcing his retirement from NT competition tbh.

Too much to hope for.

100%duncan
07-03-2014, 10:51 AM
Announcing his retirement from NT competition tbh.

From your lips to God's ears.

flacura
07-03-2014, 11:24 AM
http://www.clarin.com/deportes/basquet/Operacion-Manu_0_1168083304.html

Con la energía renovada luego de unas vacaciones con esa familia que construye diariamente con su esposa Marianela, mientras se viste de Superman en las canchas, Emanuel Ginóbili volvió el lunes a San Antonio para comenzar a encarar la recta final del regreso a la Argentina. Estaba todo envuelto para regalo, luego de los cuatro anillos de la NBA, el desfile en el River Walk y el festejo en el Alamodome. Tenía preparado el trofeo Larry O’Brien, la copa del campeón, que mañana traerá al país. Pero de pronto el sueño se convulsionó. “Debemos repetir unos exámenes”, le comunicaron a Manu desde los Spurs. Y el martes llegaron los resultados: “Microfractura por estrés en el peroné derecho”. Dudas. Mil dudas.
Y el comienzo de la Operación Manu para no perderse el Mundial de España.
La NBA es una estelar productora de un entretenimiento deportivo consumido en mercados tan distantes como atractivos para la cuenta bancaria. Al mismo tiempo, es una trituradora de físicos y una exprimidora de talentos, que un día pueden estar subiéndose a un micro en Chicago y al otro pueden estar acomodando los muebles nuevos en Portland, porque la franquicia los decidió traspasar.
Como emporio que es, la NBA juega su juego. Y presiona a fondo para defender lo suyo. Como presiona ahora, en una parte de la Operación Manu , para que Ginóbili no juegue en la Selección por su microfractura.
La otra pata de la Operación Manu ya comenzó, porque el zurdo quiere retirarse con la camiseta argentina en España y hará lo imposible por jugar. Así lo dejará en claro mañana, al llegar a Ezeiza. Para ello tendrá la contención de su entorno y el apoyo profesional del cuerpo médico de la Selección, mientras la salud y los tiempos le den una mano.
San Antonio Spurs filtró los detalles de la lesión de Manu en dos medios muy cercanos a la franquicia: el sitio web Yahoo Sports y el diario San Antonio Express News. No es casual que ambos hayan titulado o aclarado en las primeras líneas de sus informes que “probablemente” la presencia de Manu en el Mundial “está puesta en juego”. Y así R. C. Buford, el manager general de los Spurs, leyó lo que quiso leer desde el momento en que el diagnóstico se filtró. Y la presión de la Operación Manu largó con todo.
Ginóbili puede dar rienda suelta a su imaginación y a su improvisación en las canchas, donde quiebra la cintura de sus rivales en sus penetraciones o construye jugadas que le nacen por su carácter distinto. Por ser crack. Pero la prolijidad lo ha caracterizado en su vida profesional.
El absoluto control sobre lo que decide.
No se llega a su status sin ese don.
Prolijo como es, lo sorprendió que se filtrara esa información que él iba a comentar mañana en la Argentina. Pero con el hecho consumado, movió los hilos y actuó sin esperar a nadie. Porque no pensaba quedarse con el informe del cuerpo médico de los Spurs. Cada uno juega para su lado, inevitable recordar.
¿Qué hizo Manu ? Le envió las imágenes de la microfractura y el informe médico, vía correo electrónico, a una especialista de Chicago para contar con una segunda opinión.
Imparcial.
Porque la subjetividad existe así en la medicina como en el periodismo. Necesitaba sacarse la duda antes de consultar en la Argentina. Y así lo hizo.
Ayer mismo quiso conocer la opinión de esa médica, pero como ella estaba operando, se quedó con las ganas. Aunque la respuesta de la profesional llegó a la tarde mediante un llamado. ¿Qué dijo la especialista?
Que la lesión no es nueva, pero que no puede empeorar sino solamente mejorar.
Es por esto que Ginóbili escribió en Twitter, ayer a las 20.15: “La lesión existe, pero mi participación en el Mundial dependerá de cuánto mejore en estos 20 o más días.
Sigo siendo optimista ”.
Con este mensaje, Manu se reunirá hoy en San Antonio con Buford y con Gregg Popovich, entrenador y factótum de la construcción de la dinastía de los Spurs. En ese encuentro, con la opinión de los médicos de la franquicia y con la de la especialista, Ginóbili les recordará a los capos del condado que hace dos semanas y media que hace reposo, desde que el domingo 15 de junio ganó la NBA. Y les planteará que para el comienzo de la concentración de la Selección Nacional faltan tres semanas más, durante las cuales también estará reposando.
Y que se presentará a esa concentración.
Desde el cuerpo médico de la Selección, esperan la decisión de Manu para recibir las imágenes de su lesión. Pero la idea del jugador es no repetirse estudios hasta su incorporación a la Selección, por el simple hecho de que el tiempo cura, mientras no haya actividad de impacto.
Los Spurs, de Popovich y Buford para abajo, presionarán a Ginóbili con el recuerdo de 2008, cuando su tobillo izquierdo dijo basta en la semifinal de los Juegos Olímpicos de Beijing, tras una complicada puesta a punto (ver “Cuando la voluntad...”). Pero Manu sabe que esta vez tiene una carta incontrastable: jugó los playoffs y la final de la NBA con esta microfractura. Y si la franquicia y él se enteraron de su existencia fue sólo porque se sometió a los estudios de rutina previos a las vacaciones. Si no le duele nada...

La lesión existe y los Spurs se ocuparon de filtrarla. Pero Emanuel Ginóbili tendrá la última palabra cuando comience la concentración de la Selección Nacional.
Se viene su último torneo con la Argentina: el Mundial de España. Y él quiere estar. Comenzó la Operación Manu ...

Ice009
07-03-2014, 11:29 AM
Thanks for posting that Flacura.

Do you want to tell us a little of what it says for those of us that can't read it? Is there anything important there worth mentioning?

Baam
07-03-2014, 11:34 AM
He wants to play no matter what basically :lol

SupremeGuy
07-03-2014, 11:40 AM
He wants to play no matter what basically :lolThat fucker :lol

flacura
07-03-2014, 11:45 AM
Sorry but I do not have the best english to do that work, but I believe that ElNono maybe. This tells the story in some kind of sequence from the begining, and the pressure from SA, about the second opinion from a Chicago specialist, and what Baam says here "He wants to play no matter what basically :lol"

Sorry guys for the non translation. Leave Manu enjoy a last ride with Arg, he is leaving basketball, he is in the ned of his carrer and i believe that he wants to play a couple o minute more with Arg

flacura
07-03-2014, 11:46 AM
Sorry but I do not have the best english to do that work, but I believe that ElNono maybe. This tells the story in some kind of sequence from the begining, and the pressure from SA, about the second opinion from a Chicago specialist, and what Baam says here too "He wants to play no matter what basically :lol"

Sorry guys for the non translation. Leave Manu enjoy a last ride with Arg, he is leaving basketball, he is in the ned of his carrer and i believe that he wants to play a couple o minute more with Arg

Ice009
07-03-2014, 12:17 PM
Sorry but I do not have the best english to do that work, but I believe that ElNono maybe. This tells the story in some kind of sequence from the begining, and the pressure from SA, about the second opinion from a Chicago specialist, and what Baam says here too "He wants to play no matter what basically :lol"

Sorry guys for the non translation. Leave Manu enjoy a last ride with Arg, he is leaving basketball, he is in the ned of his carrer and i believe that he wants to play a couple o minute more with Arg

Thanks. I didn't want you to translate the whole article, just wanted to know if there was anything worth mentioning, and I think you have mentioned it.

So he still wants to play for Argentina no matter what? Even if the second opinion he gets from a specialist says that he shouldn't?

urunobili
07-03-2014, 12:19 PM
Thanks. I didn't want you to translate the whole article, just wanted to know if there was anything worth mentioning, and I think you have mentioned it.

So he still wants to play for Argentina no matter what? Even if the second opinion he gets from a specialist says that he shouldn't?
No. The article says that BEFORE he gets an opinion in Argentina that could be biased, he wanted a neutral one too.

Pound the rock
07-03-2014, 12:42 PM
This is excellent news. That selfish shitbag would've worn himself into an even worse injury had he been cleared to play in the summer. Now, he's forced to give this lingering injury that comes at the heels of a championship some much needed rest.

The ideal, of course, would've been a scenario where we win a championship without Manu injuring himself and he decides not to play summer ball, but if an injury is what it takes for him to abstain from playing for Argentina then I'll take it. Manu's too selfish for that "ideal" scenario to be plausible, so this is the next best thing.

Does your incessant hate and smack talk about Manu ever end?
So ungrateful...he is not an indentured servant to the Spurs, he is just being loyal to his country of course you wouldn't understand that ..

Marhq
07-03-2014, 03:43 PM
I've translated what I think are the main points in that last article:


Manu wants to retire from the national team in Spain and will do everything in his power to play.

San Antonio leaked Manu's injury to two media oulets close to the franchise: the Yahoo Sports website and the San Antonio Express News newspaper. It's not a coincidence that both headlined o mentioned in their report's first lines that "probably" Manu's presence in the World Cup "is at stake". And so R.C. Bufford, the Spurs General Manager, read what he wanted to read from the moment the diagnosis was leaked.

Meticulous as he is, he (Manu) was surprised by the leak of information he was going to comment on tomorrow in Argentina. Facing this fact, he pulled some strings and went ahead without waiting for anybody. [...] What did Manu do? He sent images of the microfracture to a Chicago specialist asking for a second opinion.

What did the specialist say? She said the injury is not new but it cannot get worse, it can only get better. That's why he tweeted yesterday at 20:15: "The injury is real but my participation in the World Cup depends on my improvement in the coming 20+ days. I'm still optimistic". Whith this message, Manu will meet today with Bufford and Gregg Popovich.

He (Manu) will remember them that he's been resting for two and a half weeks, since he won in the NBA in June 15th. And he will tell them that there's still three weeks until the NT training camp starts, a time in which he will be resting as well. And that he will go to that training camp.

The Spurs will put pressure on him by remembering him of 2008, when his ankle went out in the semifinals game of the Beijing Olympics. [...] but Manu knows he has an winning card: he played in the playoffs and in the NBA finals with this microfracture. If the franchise and he himself now know of its existence, it is only because he underwent rutine end of season tests. He is not in pain.

Saludos.

slick'81
07-03-2014, 03:50 PM
Ugh don't play with it anymore Manu damn

EVAY
07-03-2014, 04:02 PM
I've translated what I think are the main points in that last article:



Saludos.

Thank you very much for the translation. It sounds as though he might be tad pissed with Spurs' organization for leaking it.

Contractually, he is within his rights to do anything, and both he and the Spurs FO know that. My guess? He will play some.

Mel_13
07-03-2014, 04:03 PM
Thank you very much for the translation. It sounds as though he might be tad pissed with Spurs' organization for leaking it.

Contractually, he is within his rights to do anything, and both he and the Spurs FO know that. My guess? He will play some.

He should be.

Fpoonsie
07-03-2014, 04:05 PM
Manu can do whatever the fuck he wants after winning this team 5.

DPG21920
07-03-2014, 04:07 PM
Spurs pay the bills. Just as Manu hasn't "done anything wrong" by playing and continuing to play with the NT contractually, Spurs have done nothing wrong by reporting on the injury. It's all fair game and they each understand each other's feelings on the matter.

Mikeanaro
07-03-2014, 04:07 PM
Well... Argentina NT coach is an asshole anyway he wants Manu to play even if he is in a coma.

Mel_13
07-03-2014, 04:10 PM
Spurs pay the bills. Just as Manu hasn't "done anything wrong" by playing and continuing to play with the NT contractually, Spurs have done nothing wrong by reporting on the injury. It's all fair game and they each understand each other's feelings on the matter.

Medical information is private. Leaking that information is unambiguously wrong.

benefactor
07-03-2014, 04:12 PM
:cry I'm not fat enough feed me more trophies :cry

DPG21920
07-03-2014, 04:14 PM
I disagree. Medical information is reported on all the time. In every sport. It comes out during the season, during the draft, during free agency - basically all the time.

Spurs had nothing to gain by "leaking" it - Manu will do what he wants, he's not a FA so they weren't lowering his value/using dirty tactics and fans support Manu basically no matter what - even when it felt selfish of him to wear himself out with the NT play.

Mel_13
07-03-2014, 04:18 PM
I disagree. Medical information is reported on all the time. In every sport. It comes out during the season, during the draft, during free agency - basically all the time.

Spurs had nothing to gain by "leaking" it - Manu will do what he wants, he's not a FA so they weren't lowering his value/using dirty tactics and fans support Manu basically no matter what - even when it felt selfish of him to wear himself out with the NT play.

When it is appropriate to release medical information, teams issue a press release that is posted on the team's website. If it was the appropriate time to release this information about Manu, we would have seen it on spurs.com.

They leaked private information. That's wrong.

DPG21920
07-03-2014, 04:20 PM
When it is appropriate to release medical information, teams issue a press release that is posted on the team's website. If it was the appropriate time to release this information about Manu, we would have seen it on spurs.com.

They leaked private information. That's wrong.

If you believe that - what is the motive? Why would the Spurs who tend to handle themselves better than any organization do that? What do they have to gain?

Mel_13
07-03-2014, 04:23 PM
If you believe that - what is the motive? Why would the Spurs who tend to handle themselves better than any organization do that? What do they have to gain?

The motive is irrelevant. Leaking the information was wrong whatever the motive may have been.

As to what they have to gain, that would appear to be obvious.

DPG21920
07-03-2014, 04:24 PM
It's not to me.

ElNono
07-03-2014, 04:32 PM
Dunno if it's been mentioned already, but he'll have a press conference tomorrow morning upon arrival in Argentina.

Mel_13
07-03-2014, 04:33 PM
Dunno if it's been mentioned already, but he'll have a press conference tomorrow morning upon arrival in Argentina.

I mentioned it on the last page. 7AM central time according to Mike Monroe.

Biernutz
07-03-2014, 05:45 PM
Manu is taking the trophy with him to Argentina. I'm sure it will be at the presser. I don't think he is giving up 100%
on the world games.

Uriel
07-03-2014, 05:58 PM
I have a hard time believing that an organization as classy as the Spurs would deliberately leak medical information just to keep Manu from playing in international competition. Whoever wrote that article was probably just speculating or trying to sound dramatic.

KaiRMD1
07-03-2014, 06:12 PM
Yes, awesome news. Hope he feels better but at least he misses FIBA. Rest up ol' sport! We got a repeat to prepare

Skull-1
07-03-2014, 06:24 PM
Mike Monroe tweeted that Manu would hold a press conference at the Buenos Aires airport tomorrow morning, 7AM central time.


They eh have airports in the Third World? Are they paved?

Skull-1
07-03-2014, 06:26 PM
Does your incessant hate and smack talk about Manu ever end?

...

Nope. I pray it never ends. Takes a lot of effort to offset the homertards around here.........

xmas1997
07-03-2014, 06:29 PM
Much ado about nothing.
Yet the Argentine press is making a huge big deal about the Spurs leaking the information.
Again, it is much ado about nothing IMHO.
He really should rest that leg.

emanueldavidginobili
07-03-2014, 07:22 PM
Manu is going to play, it's the end of the road for the Argentinian legend. He wants one last time to play for his country I'm sure he's willing to take the risk.

xmas1997
07-03-2014, 07:41 PM
This national team really doesn't need him, they will most likely be out in the first round.

tony77
07-03-2014, 10:42 PM
I was just watching the news on tv, and they said Manu got a 2nd opinion, and it was an opinion Manu wanted to hear, so Manu not playing for argentina isn't set in stone yet

SouthernFried
07-03-2014, 11:01 PM
Does Tonya Harding do contract work?

CaptainLate
07-03-2014, 11:29 PM
Damn right it is a blessing. The guy was too stupid (a.k.a. patriotic) to know that at his age and with his body he should have taken off the summer. He would have been shit next year if he'd played. Hasn't past history proven that? Thank heavens.

SupremeGuy
07-03-2014, 11:47 PM
Thank you very much for the translation. It sounds as though he might be tad pissed with Spurs' organization for leaking it.

Contractually, he is within his rights to do anything, and both he and the Spurs FO know that. My guess? He will play some.But not mad at the assholes asking him to play on a broken leg? Genius.

RD2191
07-03-2014, 11:48 PM
Does Tonya Harding do contract work?
:lmao

baseline bum
07-03-2014, 11:54 PM
Manu is going to play, it's the end of the road for the Argentinian legend. He wants one last time to play for his country I'm sure he's willing to take the risk.

Most likely

Ghjkll
07-04-2014, 07:41 AM
In other news, our best big/center, Juan Gutiérrez, will miss the tournament with an injury...We are toasted and Manu is planning to play injured...Wow.

Texas_Ranger
07-04-2014, 07:47 AM
I suppored Manu for playing for Argentina but playing injured is fucking stupid.

EVAY
07-04-2014, 07:50 AM
But not mad at the assholes asking him to play on a broken leg? Genius.

Well, the 'neutral' medical opinion said that the fracture could get better but wouldn't get worse. I can't exactly figure how they came up with that conclusion, but it would certainly be a basis for an argument that says 'he can play on it for Argentina and it won't make it any worse than it already is'.

Rest assured that I would prefer that he not play on it, but I don't think Manu sees it that way.

Why would he be any more mad at people telling him he that they want him to play for their own reasons than he would be at people telling him that they don't want him to play for their own reasons.

Why are people in here imagining that Manu is going to do something that he doesn't want to do? Has he ever struck anyone as being less than confident in his own judgment about anything at all?

Manu will do what Manu wants to do. Anyone who tries to get in his way of that is likely to b the ones he considers a$$holes.

baseline bum
07-04-2014, 07:54 AM
So has this press conference happened, and is he playing FIBA? Anyone down in Mexico heard anything?

Mugen
07-04-2014, 08:02 AM
Pretty dumb if he chooses to still play.

Just let him sacrifice the ceremonial goat at halfcourt or whatever it is that they do down there tbh.

SupremeGuy
07-04-2014, 08:07 AM
Pretty dumb if he chooses to still play.

Just let him sacrifice the ceremonial goat at halfcourt or whatever it is that they do down there tbh.:lmao

Splits
07-04-2014, 08:42 AM
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SanDiegoSpursFan
07-04-2014, 08:50 AM
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Splits
07-04-2014, 08:50 AM
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BG_Spurs_Fan
07-04-2014, 08:56 AM
Of course he'll play another season at least beyond next one, save for a bad injury. Same with Duncan.

Ghjkll
07-04-2014, 09:00 AM
Manu said in the press conference that he hopes to play, and the injury it`s just a "little fracture". He will probably wait 20-25 days to announce his final decision, but he is optimistic. Let the fire begin!

DAF86
07-04-2014, 09:21 AM
He wants to play. Man, if folks were fired up before. :lmao

xmas1997
07-04-2014, 09:24 AM
That is reasonable.

carina_gino20
07-04-2014, 09:39 AM
Well, the 'neutral' medical opinion said that the fracture could get better but wouldn't get worse. I can't exactly figure how they came up with that conclusion, but it would certainly be a basis for an argument that says 'he can play on it for Argentina and it won't make it any worse than it already is'.


The thing that worries about this stress fracture is that back in 2009, they thought it would heal up as well and that it's not so serious and like a week after, announced that he would be out for the rest of the season and will require surgery. Anyway, I hope he won't end up regretting whatever decision he makes.

Mel_13
07-04-2014, 09:55 AM
The thing that worries about this stress fracture is that back in 2009, they thought it would heal up as well and that it's not so serious and like a week after, announced that he would be out for the rest of the season and will require surgery. Anyway, I hope he won't end up regretting whatever decision he makes.

The surgery was before the 2008-09 season. He did not have surgery after the stress reaction late that season. Just rest and he was ready to go for 2009-10.

ace3g
07-04-2014, 10:18 AM
Manu's plane had an emergency landing.

ElNono
07-04-2014, 10:29 AM
Manu's plane had an emergency landing.

Just read his American Airlines flight had a broken wheel (not kidding)... the irony...

I'll translate some quotes from the presser in a bit...