has no shame

[RsxPiimp]

Putting up huge posters and billboards begging for Melo while wearing Lin's jersey #

Fucking cold :lol

[Gummi Clutch]

the irony. Wheres the billboard though? All I read about was a big poster in the lockerroom.

[RsxPiimp]

realgm :lol

[StrengthAndHonor]

Classless GM. Morey loves to burn bridges with players. Last year it was Asik, this year it's Lin.

[baseline bum]

:rollin

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrjdBdqCEAA_rvZ.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bri9PVmCQAAYNym.jpg

[tmtcsc]

I personally don't care about Lin's feelings but the whole fanfare these teams go through to recruit someone is tired and old. Seriously, an image to say "picture yourself in Rocket red". So stupid. This guy wants to win and get paid. At the end of the day, I wouldn't be shocked if he stays in NY or is dealt in a sign-in-trade. I'm not convinced Phil wants Melo to begin with but he doesn't want to lose him for nothing. Trading him to Chicago might return some nice pieces.

[Clipper Nation]

:rollin

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:lol This Begging is almost as bad as the Lakers' Begging....

[Thread]

I personally don't care about Lin's feelings but the whole fanfare these teams go through to recruit someone is tired and old. Seriously, an image to say "picture yourself in Rocket red". So stupid. This guy wants to win and get paid. At the end of the day, I wouldn't be shocked if he stays in NY or is dealt in a sign-in-trade. I'm not convinced Phil wants Melo to begin with but he doesn't want to lose him for nothing. Trading him to Chicago might return some nice pieces.

Boiled down:::

Symbolism over substance.

[baseline bum]

:lol This Begging is almost as bad as the Lakers' Begging....

Difference is, people want to play with Harden instead of The Achilles. Hell, Bible Kemp left $30 million on the table to escape the snitch even with 9 mouths to feed.

[Raven]

:lol This Begging is almost as bad as the Lakers' Begging....

i wouldn't go that far tbh, the rockets never pretended to be a serious franchise to begin with

[tmtcsc]

Boiled down:::

Symbolism over substance.

Yep.

[sook]

I don't like Lin, but there is a level of professionalism that should be maintained.

[MeloHype]

:lol This Begging is almost as bad as the Lakers' Begging....
Houston isn't posting this stuff all over the city like the Lakers did.

And Chicago did this too.

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 8m

Spoke to Lin's agents, Jim Tanner/Roger Montgomery, who say that Houston did NOT inform Lin that the No. 7 would be used for Melo images.

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If 'Melo comes, Lin has to go in a trade -- which Lin's aware. Given 'Melo-Lin history, understandable why Lin would be sensitive about it.

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 19m

Houston pre-informed Jeremy Lin of the use of his No. 7 on 'Melo recruiting images, source tells Yahoo Sports.

[angrydude]

Doesn't matter. Pretty sure Lin is gone no matter what the rockets do this offseason.

[Thread]

Doesn't matter. Pretty sure Lin is gone no matter what the rockets do this offseason.

Figures, somebody who takes the game and the competition seriously would have no room on that team.

[RsxPiimp]

Houston is really goin after the wrong player tho :lol

Morey being a big analytics guy is disappointing me.

[Indazone]

Anyway you cut it, this is a bitch ass classless move for the Rockets. Imagine if the Spurs did that to Manu? Point is, the Spurs never would. Difference between Championship and an also ran organizations. Champions act like it.

[whitemamba]

484390703099691008

:lol poor lin resorting to the bible, hes salty as fuck, but i cant blame him.

[Clipper Nation]

Houston isn't posting this stuff all over the city like the Lakers did.

And Chicago did this too.
I said "almost"....

[DPG21920]

Obviously Lin is not Manu in terms of what he's done for the franchise/how he's view by fans, but the point remains.

[whitemamba]

I said "almost"....

nigga, they have him holding the LOB, and his posters all over the arena/city , you cant be that hypocritical.

[MeloHype]

nigga, they have him holding the LOB, and his posters all over the arena/city , you cant be that hypocritical.
Its only 3/4 pictures all on/in the arena

[whitemamba]

Its only 3/4 pictures all on/in the arena

meh, same shit different smell

[MeloHype]

meh, same shit different smellnot even close

[whitemamba]

not even close

i beg to differ.

[baseline bum]

Anyway you cut it, this is a bitch ass classless move for the Rockets. Imagine if the Spurs did that to Manu? Point is, the Spurs never would. Difference between Championship and an also ran organizations. Champions act like it.

It would be more like the Spurs doing that to Richard Jefferson tbh, which I would have cheered.

[MeloHype]

i beg.
Of course you do

[RsxPiimp]

Get this


Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 5s
Houston pre-informed Jeremy Lin of the use of his No. 7 on 'Melo recruiting images, source tells Yahoo Sports.

[RsxPiimp]

Next tweet from woj confirms Lin was not informed by the Rockets per his agent

Morey can't even address this shit right -:lol

[LkrFan]

That's foul. Melo ain't going there anyway.

[Indazone]

Morey has a history of how he treats his players and coaches. http://blog.chron.com/sportsupdate/2011/04/addressing-daryl-moreys-assets/


Asset is the word Kevin Martin used to describe the way Rockets’ players felt leading up to the trade deadline.
“I was telling Daryl, going into the season 90 percent of the people on the team felt like a trade asset,” Martin said.
In response, Morey wanted to clear up one thing about players being assets.
“I think they are basketball players,” Morey said. “People use the word assets, I never do. We never say that. These are people.” - LOL sure Daryl

[Thread]

Morey has a history of how he treats his players and coaches. http://blog.chron.com/sportsupdate/2011/04/addressing-daryl-moreys-assets/


Asset is the word Kevin Martin used to describe the way Rockets’ players felt leading up to the trade deadline.
“I was telling Daryl, going into the season 90 percent of the people on the team felt like a trade asset,” Martin said.
In response, Morey wanted to clear up one thing about players being assets.
“I think they are basketball players,” Morey said. “People use the word assets, I never do. We never say that. These are people.” - LOL sure Daryl

You're spoiled, Ind, your players as well, & they're soft. Your Morey seems like a straight arrow.

[djohn2oo8]

Rockets have been a shitty organization most of their existence, but not for this. So fucking what they used Melo's number? If LeBron visited and his number was 7, they'd use it too. If you put either one in a no name rookie number, no one gives a shit. People only care because it's Lin.

[djohn2oo8]

And fuck Lin. Nigga is getting paid 15 million and is asshurt because ":cry someone used my number :cry"

[DPG21920]

Rockets have been a shitty organization most of their existence, but not for this. So fucking what they used Melo's number? If LeBron visited and his number was 7, they'd use it too. If you put either one in a no name rookie number, no one gives a shit. People only care because it's Lin.

So why lie about it if you did nothing wrong? A HOU rep told Woj they discussed with Lin. Both Lin and his agent said otherwise.

[Clipper Nation]

Rockets have been a shitty organization most of their existence, but not for this. So fucking what they used Melo's number? If LeBron visited and his number was 7, they'd use it too. If you put either one in a no name rookie number, no one gives a shit. People only care because it's Lin.
It has nothing to do with Lin, they are showing disrespect to a player who is currently under contract with their organization.... that's not good no matter who the player is....

[djohn2oo8]

It has nothing to do with Lin, they are showing disrespect to a player who is currently under contract with their organization.... that's not good no matter who the player is....
It has everything to do with Lin, that's why there is so much controversy. If it was a rookie's number, no one would say a word.

[djohn2oo8]

So why lie about it if you did nothing wrong? A HOU rep told Woj they discussed with Lin. Both Lin and his agent said otherwise.
Why should they have to discuss it? Lin and his agent could be lying as well.

[DPG21920]

Why should they have to discuss it? Lin and his agent could be lying as well.

:lol

[100%duncan]

What a bitch and faggoty move all at once :lol

[djohn2oo8]

What a bitch and faggoty move all at once :lol
Why? Lin should know that regardless of who they are recruiting, he is gone anyways. It just so happened that the player they are chasing has his number. That is all.

[sook]

Why? Lin should know that regardless of who they are recruiting, he is gone anyways. It just so happened that the player they are chasing has his number. That is all.
DJ, you know how much I hate Lin..but this is a bit insensitive. Not really because of Lin's feelings in particular, but because it shows a slutty lack of professionalism from the organization. Its not the image we want to project tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

DJ, you know how much I hate Lin..but this is a bit insensitive. Not really because of Lin's feelings in particular, but because it shows a slutty lack of professionalism from the organization. Its not the image we want to project tbh.
How does this show a lack of professionalism, just curious? Lin purposely leaked it back to Wojo that he didn't approve it because his feelings were hurt. Then got on twitter. Lin got cut like 5 times, once on Christmas day, and THIS bothers him? The Rockets don't owe him anything. It's just like when a player is traded without being informed. It happens. It's a business, a cutthroat one.

[ducks]

not sure what fuss is about linn would be gone
get over yourself

[sook]

How does this show a lack of professionalism, just curious? Lin purposely leaked it back to Wojo that he didn't approve it because his feelings were hurt. Then got on twitter. Lin got cut like 5 times, once on Christmas day, and THIS bothers him? The Rockets don't owe him anything. It's just like when a player is traded without being informed. It happens.
Of course, he's stolen 25mil for a 2 week stretch of fluke play, he should be thanking the stars he even got this opportunity. My point was that we are notorious for our treatment of players/coaches and this just adds more fuel to the fire whether true or not. When it comes to such matters the organization should have played it safe, especially given the history of the two players in NY.

[djohn2oo8]

This won't affect how FA look at them. You appease stars, not shitty role players. Guys are probably laughing their asses off at Lin.

[Kool Bob Love]

hi
Holy fuck that sig is clean ass hell. Crystal clear 05 shit. Amazing.

[baseline bum]

Holy fuck that sig is clean ass hell. Crystal clear 05 shit. Amazing.

Made it in GIMP from a 720p rip of Game 7.

MAM0XFX277g

[Trill Clinton]

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[Kool Bob Love]

Made it in GIMP from a 720p rip of Game 7.

Clean my dude. :tu

[StrengthAndHonor]

Lin is not a rookie or a journeyman playing for a contract. He was an integral part of the Rockets. He underperformed and failed to reach expectations, true, but that's not enough to trash a player who's still officially with your organization, from my understanding, Lin accepted every role assigned to him. He wasn't a great soldier, but he followed orders at the end of the day.


I don't feel bad for Lin though. He's laughing his way to the bank.

[Kool Bob Love]

Lala looking G.O.O.D!!!


http://youtu.be/MUCXajc03ww

[100%duncan]

Why? Lin should know that regardless of who they are recruiting, he is gone anyways. It just so happened that the player they are chasing has his number. That is all.

In every job even if an employee is fired there are atill proper steps to be taken right. What mpre in a league that is publicly open to the whole world? Lin didnt even know what was happening. That's just a bitch move by morey and im no lin fan i think he sucks.

[djohn2oo8]

In every job even if an employee is fired there are atill proper steps to be taken right. What mpre in a league that is publicly open to the whole world? Lin didnt even know what was happening. That's just a bitch move by morey and im no lin fan i think he sucks.
Bullshit. He knew what was happening the second Asik was traded.

[Indazone]

Say what you want about Lin good or bad. It's still a clueless move and lacking in any professionalism. Spurs would never do this. Period

[djohn2oo8]

Say what you want about Lin good or bad. It's still a clueless move and lacking in any professionalism. Spurs would never do this. Period
You mean like how they did with Beverley's number with Dwight last year? Or With Scola's number with Bosh? Did they break any rules within the contract? No.

[djohn2oo8]

And you're right. The Spurs just cut players' whose feelings get hurt and become a distraction (S Jackson)

[Thread]

And you're right. The Spurs just cut players' whose feelings get hurt and become a distraction (S Jackson)

He tried to hit Pop.

[illusioNtEk]

Rockets my 2nd fav team, lets hope Melo or Lebron joins

[Bulaien999]

The whole Lin situation is so disgusting for the fact that he gets coddled because of his race. If it was some other nigga like Felton, no one would bat a eyelash seeing how he underperformed.

There is players that I miss (Sura, etc) wearing rockets red, but Lin will go down as another Kevin Cato, mfer should be thankful for the millions he got paid

[baseline bum]

Rockets my 2nd fav team, lets hope Melo or Lebron joins

I hope you get AIDS.

[HemisfairArena]

Rockets need to get rid of the bricker Harden before anything else.

[djohn2oo8]

Rockets need to get rid of the bricker Harden before anything else.
Retarded.

[100%duncan]

Bullshit. He knew what was happening the second Asik was traded.

No proof. His agent had no idea.

[Thread]

The whole Lin situation is so disgusting for the fact that he gets coddled because of his race. If it was some other nigga like Felton, no one would bat a eyelash seeing how he underperformed.

There is players that I miss (Sura, etc) wearing rockets red, but Lin will go down as another Kevin Cato, mfer should be thankful for the millions he got paid

That's right, Cato. Tell that story, 9's. I don't recall the particulars, but, it was juicy.

[angrydude]

This happens all the time in the NBA. The only reason this is a a story is because of all the butt-hurt lin only chinese fans on the internet feigning righteous indignation for their savior.

[djohn2oo8]

This happens all the time in the NBA. The only reason this is a a story is because of all the butt-hurt lin only chinese fans on the internet feigning righteous indignation for their savior.
Yeah. No one said anything last summer when Dwight changed his avatar picture on twitter to him in a rockets jersey when Beverley still had that number.

[Clipper Nation]

Retarded.
How so?

[djohn2oo8]

How so?
Harden is 24. Not 30.

[Clipper Nation]

Harden is 24. Not 30.
Is he ever going to play defense or score without flopping?

[djohn2oo8]

Is he ever going to play defense or score without flopping?
Idk. Give him a hardass coach and see. One who runs an offense.

[Red Hawk #21]

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:lol Imagine Melo's kids ending up as one of those Chiraq 600 kids...
WkfaYTa87GA

[Bulaien999]

Yeah. No one said anything last summer when Dwight changed his avatar picture on twitter to him in a rockets jersey when Beverley still had that number.

It's just business, and I'm glad some understand that

[TDMVPDPOY]

why is lin complaining? his going to be paid 15m for next season

[djohn2oo8]

why is lin complaining? his going to be paid 15m for next season
And he knew he was going to be traded before this happened, it's not like he could stay if they signed someone. He made a big deal out of nothing so he could feel like the victim.

[ambchang]

Sure Lin under perform.

Sure the Rockets doesn't have to care about how he feels.

Sure Lin is getting paid regardless.

Sure Lin will be traded soon.

But those aren't the issues. The issue is how the Rockets will have a hard time attracting integral role players from this point forward, and that anybody who is not named Harden or Dwight will be treated as disposable pieces (actually even they could be treated as such).

Keep in mind that the Rockets put in major effort to get Lin in the first place, and now that Lin is not a major star, they are treating him like trash. Future free agents will look at it, and think to themselves whether they want to play for an organization that doesn't seem to put any effort in developing a player into a real system, but rather would just throw someone in the fire and see if they pan out.

Nobody likes to be treated like trash, and there is a certain amount of pride in all of us, especially when you are talking about professional athletes.

It also sends the message that the Rockets do not look out for their players as they are simply disposable parts. It's true that most organizations are actually that way, but the Rockets just took it to another level by publicly humiliating one of their players.

So Rockets players, you better look out for your best interest instead of the teams', because the team sure isn't going to look out for you.

[djohn2oo8]

http://images.thehollywoodgossip.com/iu/t_full/v1373112850/dwight-howard-rockets.jpg

Beverley didn't complain.

[djohn2oo8]

I don't think he is coming. But this whole controversy is stupid.

[Clipper Nation]

http://images.thehollywoodgossip.com/iu/t_full/v1373112850/dwight-howard-rockets.jpg

Beverley didn't complain.
The Rockets didn't make that Photoshop....

[djohn2oo8]

The Rockets didn't make that Photoshop....

So? It was still public on Dwight's twitter. They did however make these photoshops when they presented it in the meetings last summer

http://rockets.clutchfans.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/rockets-dwight-howard-pitch-1.jpg

http://rockets.clutchfans.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/rockets-dwight-howard-pitch-2.jpg

[Clipper Nation]

So? It was still public on Dwight's twitter. They did however make these photoshops when they presented it in the meetings last summer

http://rockets.clutchfans.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/rockets-dwight-howard-pitch-1.jpg

http://rockets.clutchfans.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/rockets-dwight-howard-pitch-2.jpg
That's disrespectful too, then....

[djohn2oo8]

lol ok.

[Clipper Nation]

lol ok.
Sorry, but it is.... your franchise goes out of its way to disrespect their players and makes their players feel like disposable assets instead of valued human beings.... in fact, it reminds me of the Baylor-era Clippers....

[djohn2oo8]

Sorry, but it is.... your franchise goes out of its way to disrespect their players and makes their players feel like disposable assets instead of valued human beings.... in fact, it reminds me of the Baylor-era Clippers....
If you don't think this is how it goes when teams pitch to FA then I don't know what to tell you.

[PingPong]

484390703099691008

:lol poor lin resorting to the bible, hes salty as fuck, but i cant blame him.


Asian and Christian. He deserves it all,tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

And this whole valued human beings bit is weak. It's not how it works in the corporate world. You are paid to produce. If you don't produce, you are fired. Doesn't matter how many kids you have to feed. The successful ones get the parties when they leave.

[Fpoonsie]

djohn2oo8 as on point as his sigs.

Fuck tactfulness. It's all about the bottom line.

[RsxPiimp]

So? It was still public on Dwight's twitter. They did however make these photoshops when they presented it in the meetings last summer

http://rockets.clutchfans.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/rockets-dwight-howard-pitch-1.jpg

http://rockets.clutchfans.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/rockets-dwight-howard-pitch-2.jpg
Umm....how is the Beverly situation even remotely the same?:lol

1. Rockets sought bevs approval, which they got.
2. Bev wasn't going to be moved for Howard.

Morey trying to cover his ass and doing a terrible job yet again.

[djohn2oo8]

Umm....how is the Beverly situation even remotely the same?:lol

1. Rockets sought bevs approval, which they got.
2. Bev wasn't going to be moved for Howard.

Morey trying to cover his ass and doing a terrible job yet again.

No, he did not get Beverley's approval. He didn't change his number until after Dwight officially signed. He was still wearing the same number, and that is what this whole mess is about, but only because it's Lin.

[djohn2oo8]

Also, since we are talking about professionalism, no one brought up the time McGrady was about to be traded for Vince Carter, then Tmac hopped on twitter announcing he was going to have Microfracture knee surgery when he didn't need it so the trade wouldn't happen.

[ambchang]

http://images.thehollywoodgossip.com/iu/t_full/v1373112850/dwight-howard-rockets.jpg

Beverley didn't complain.

This is failed logic.

Just because Beverley didn't complain didn't mean it was a smart thing for Rockets management to do.

It's like saying Kobe got off scotch free after raping an unattractive hotel worker (except a $4M ring and the settlement out of court), so it's OK for NBA players to go around and start raping unattractive hotel workers.

[ambchang]

And this whole valued human beings bit is weak. It's not how it works in the corporate world. You are paid to produce. If you don't produce, you are fired. Doesn't matter how many kids you have to feed. The successful ones get the parties when they leave.

You fire them first.

[RsxPiimp]

The whole Lin situation is so disgusting for the fact that he gets coddled because of his race. If it was some other nigga like Felton, no one would bat a eyelash seeing how he underperformed.


He's being coddled because of his race, sure, but you have to understand Lin was brought in by Houston for the very same reason. His race. He was a huge marketing piece to appease the leftover Asian fan base from Yao's era. don't pretend his signing and ridiculous contract wasn't a giant Chinese-related marketing move). Ever since they got Harden, rather than the fan-favorite marketing star he was set up to be, he's been the teams scape goat.

[Splits]

This is failed logic.

Just because Beverley didn't complain didn't mean it was a smart thing for Rockets management to do.

It's like saying Kobe got off scotch free after raping an unattractive hotel worker (except a $4M ring and the settlement out of court), so it's OK for NBA players to go around and start raping unattractive hotel workers.

:lol

fyi it is "scot free"...

[djohn2oo8]

This is failed logic.

Just because Beverley didn't complain didn't mean it was a smart thing for Rockets management to do.

It's like saying Kobe got off scotch free after raping an unattractive hotel worker (except a $4M ring and the settlement out of court), so it's OK for NBA players to go around and start raping unattractive hotel workers.

They used Scola's number when they pitched to Bosh. Again, no complaints.

[ambchang]

Also, since we are talking about professionalism, no one brought up the time McGrady was about to be traded for Vince Carter, then Tmac hopped on twitter announcing he was going to have Microfracture knee surgery when he didn't need it so the trade wouldn't happen.

How is this even remotely relevant to the current situation?

T-Mac was unprofessional, so it's Ok for the Rockets management to treat their current players unprofessionally?

I don't quite see the link.

[djohn2oo8]

It is standard practice with every team in the NBA.

[djohn2oo8]

How is this even remotely relevant to the current situation?

T-Mac was unprofessional, so it's Ok for the Rockets management to treat their current players unprofessionally?

I don't quite see the link.
No, I was responding to the point that they treat their players like assets when they were more than fucking loyal to often injured McGrady and Yao. It cannot be both ways.

[ambchang]

They used Scola's number when they pitched to Bosh. Again, no complaints.

So? Still doesn't change the fact that this is unprofessional. Scola wasn't a sensitive twit, that's fine. Beverley issue wasn't even a Rockets initiative, it was done by Dwight himself. Totally different scenarios as well.

[Clipper Nation]

And this whole valued human beings bit is weak. It's not how it works in the corporate world. You are paid to produce. If you don't produce, you are fired. Doesn't matter how many kids you have to feed. The successful ones get the parties when they leave.
If you treat employees with options like shit, they will get fed up and not want to work for you anymore....

Why would any role player want to sign with Houston when they're going to be openly treated like used trash while overrated manchildren like Harden and Dwight are catered to?

[ambchang]

It is standard practice with every team in the NBA.

Every NBA team put up giant posters of free agents with jersey numbers of their current players? Could you give me one example for each and every team?

Scratch that, give me 16 teams (majority) that does this.

I have Houston, add 15 more.

[angrydude]

I'm sure Lin will crying himself to sleep every night in his pool full of 15 million dollars next year. So much disrespect.

[Clipper Nation]

It is standard practice with every team in the NBA.
If begging is standard practice, why did you make fun of the Lakers for it when the Rockets do it more than anyone (Bosh, Dwight, Melo)?

[ambchang]

No, I was responding to the point that they treat their players like assets when they were more than fucking loyal to often injured McGrady and Yao. It cannot be both ways.

What? TMac went to have surgery to botch a trade means the Rockets were loyal to their players? You really have to spell this thing out.

I will start this out for you:

The Rockets have shown that they were loyal to their players. One example was when they were planning to trade T-Mac for Carter, T-Mac announced that he was going to have surgery to botch the trade. This shows that the Rockets were loyal because .....

[Thread]

If begging is standard practice, why did you make fun of the Lakers for it when the Rockets do it more than anyone (Bosh, Dwight, Melo)?

You tell him, slope!!!

[Splits]

Why would any role player want to sign with Houston when they're going to be openly treated like used trash while overrated manchildren like Harden and Dwight are catered to?

:cry to play for Legend McHale

[Double-Up]

Lakers just did the same thing to Xavier Henry in their Carmelo presentation...:lol

[Infinite_limit]

If the Rockets were actually contenders they'd be quite unlikable.

[POPownsJackson]

these players make millions, who the fuck cares

:cry: unprofessional

stfu

[Thread]

If the Rockets were actually contenders they'd be quite unlikable.

Aside from that hump Double A I like 'em.

[Bulaien999]

Im glad we are getting rid of Lin, enough of the asian fanbase coddling. Canaan should have gotten his minutes as well as Troy Daniels

[djohn2oo8]

If begging is standard practice, why did you make fun of the Lakers for it when the Rockets do it more than anyone (Bosh, Dwight, Melo)?

The Rockets are not the Lakers. The dont have 16 titles. Houston is not LA. Lakers should just flaunt the trophies and never have to ask a player to come play there. It's not that hard to comprehend.

[djohn2oo8]

What? TMac went to have surgery to botch a trade means the Rockets were loyal to their players? You really have to spell this thing out.

I will start this out for you:

The Rockets have shown that they were loyal to their players. One example was when they were planning to trade T-Mac for Carter, T-Mac announced that he was going to have surgery to botch the trade. This shows that the Rockets were loyal because .....
No. They were loyal to both of them by signing them to dumb extensions when neither proved they could stay healthy. Then when they had opportunities to trade them, they didn't even though they were still in suits.

[djohn2oo8]

If you treat employees with options like shit, they will get fed up and not want to work for you anymore....

Why would any role player want to sign with Houston when they're going to be openly treated like used trash while overrated manchildren like Harden and Dwight are catered to?

Openly treated like trash? This isn't little league basketball. And it doesn't matter, the bottom line is whether or not one is productive.

[djohn2oo8]

Lakers just did the same thing to Xavier Henry in their Carmelo presentation...:lol
This.

[Malik Hairston]

Apparently Lin was informed that they were going to use the number in the Carmelo presentation and he OK'd it, tbh..

I don't support Houston's begging or decision making, but I'm really tired of everybody defending/riding Lin at every moment..he's a fucking 10th-15th man caliber player that has been built up because he's Asian..

[djohn2oo8]

Also, complaining about unprofessionalism in a billion dollar industry is lame as fuck.

[Clipper Nation]

The Houston Beggars were disrespectfulPERIOD

[djohn2oo8]

The Houston Beggars were disrespectfulPERIOD
Yet you defended The Decision which LeBron shitted on an entire city on live tv. Pick a side.

[Clipper Nation]

Yet you defended The Decision which LeBron shitted on an entire city on live tv. Pick a side.
Kang raised money for charity. The Beggars pissed off one of their players mid-begging.

Let us proceed....

[djohn2oo8]

Kang raised money for charity. The Beggars pissed off one of their players mid-begging.

Let us proceed....
LeBron didn't disrespect Cleveland? Since this whole topic is about disrespect, don't dodge the question.

[TDMVPDPOY]

gettin paid 15m, feels disrespected after fleecing that contract?

only wanker making it an issue are his fans....

[djohn2oo8]

Also, some of you were laughing hysterically when they gave Lin that contract. I guess they didn't respect him then either.

[RsxPiimp]

This.

Assuming that is true, it's an awful comparison. Henry is a FA, Lin is still on Houston's payroll:lol

[djohn2oo8]

Assuming that is true, it's an awful comparison. Henry is a FA, Lin is still on Houston's payroll:lol
No it is not.

[Clipper Nation]

LeBron didn't disrespect Cleveland? Since this whole topic is about disrespect, don't dodge the question.
Kang showed respect to underprivileged children by raising money for the Boys' and Girls' club.

The Rockets disrespected a current member of their roster while begging for Fatmelo.

[djohn2oo8]

Kang showed respect to underprivileged children by raising money for the Boys' and Girls' club.

The Rockets disrespected a current member of their roster while begging for Fatmelo.

Did he or Did he not disrepect Cleveland? It's a yes or no question.

[Clipper Nation]

Did he or Did he not disrepect Cleveland? Do not dodge the question.
No, Kang just switched teams while raising money for charity.... Cleveland disrespected him with The Comic Sans Letter :lol

[djohn2oo8]

No, Kang just switched teams while raising money for charity.... Cleveland disrespected him with The Comic Sans Letter :lol
You did it again. But keep making excuses. If he didn't disrespect Cleveland, then why isn't he doing another tv special "for the kids"? We all know why.

[Clipper Nation]

You did it again. But keep making excuses. If he didn't disrespect Cleveland, then why isn't he doing another tv special "for the kids"? We all know why.
Too busy vacationing, tbh :downspin:

[djohn2oo8]

Spin it as fast as you can :lol

[RsxPiimp]

This.


LeBron didn't disrespect Cleveland? Since this whole topic is about disrespect, don't dodge the question.

I don't even know why you're even defending this shitty action at this point, and citing numerous transgressions by Morey in the past somehow makes you feel it's status quo in this industry. If that we're true, we wouldn't see teams spend a dime every off season courting players left and right. They'll simply buy an ad that says "Wanted: Free Agent, Huge $$$, Apply inside"

This is not even about Lin anymore. There's always a human emotion attached in this trade, and Morey, as good as he is in analytics and numbers completely lacks this trait. You may say it doesn't matter but down the line, when all you need are a few pieces to complete your championship team, players are not going to line up to play for peanuts, when Houston is notorious for showing they don't care about you. Contrary to your belief that the bottom line for most is $$$, some of these players wanted the experience to be treated with respect that's why living conditions, quality of personnel etc are always taken into considerations.

[djohn2oo8]

I don't even know why you're even defending this shitty action at this point, and citing numerous transgressions by Morey in the past somehow makes you feel it's status quo in this industry. If that we're true, we wouldn't see teams spend a dime every off season courting players left and right. They'll simply buy an ad that says "Wanted: Free Agent, Huge $$$, Apply inside"

This is not even about Lin anymore. There's always a human emotion attached in this trade, and Morey, as good as he is in analytics and numbers completely lacks this trait. You may say it doesn't matter but down the line, when all you need are a few pieces to complete your championship team, players are not going to line up to play for peanuts, when Houston is notorious for showing they don't care about you. Contrary to your belief that the bottom line for most is $$$, some of these players wanted the experience to be treated with respect that's why living conditions, quality of personnel etc are always taken into considerations.

Players don't come for the GM. They come to play with the stars of the teams. Guys will play at a discount if it is a championship caliber team. Who else has made a big deal out of Morey "disrespecting them"? Kevin Martin? :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Spin it as fast as you can :lol
You call it spin, everyone else calls it truthbombs....

[djohn2oo8]

Human emotion gets players overpaid. (Les Alexander)

[RsxPiimp]

Players don't come for the GM. They come to play with the stars of the teams. Guys will play at a discount if it is a championship caliber team. Who else has made a big deal out of Morey "disrespecting them"? Kevin Martin? :lol

GM oversees a lot of things in your franchise. No one said players comes for a GM, but he's the voice of your team and a reflection of your business dealing. Role players would sure come to Houston but it will come with a higher price tag considering Morey is now known as a guy who treats his players like used condoms :lol

[djohn2oo8]

GM oversees a lot of things in your franchise. No one said players comes for a GM, but he's the voice of your team and a reflection of your business dealing. Role players would sure come to Houston but it will come with a higher price tag considering Morey is now known as a guy who treats his players like used condoms :lol
Yeah I'm sure they'll overlook that 15 million Lin is getting for playing like a used condom.

[Thread]

A fine debate, fellows.

[RsxPiimp]

That's precisely my point:lol The chances of attracting ring chasing players coming to play for cheap are slim. You'd have to grossly overpay average rotation players like Lin a huge amount of money to play for your team:lol

[djohn2oo8]

That's precisely my point:lol The chances of attracting ring chasing players coming to play for cheap are slim. You'd have to grossly overpay average rotation players like Lin a huge amount of money to play for your team:lol
Because Lin's number was used as part of a recruitment pitch when he was likely leaving anyway? Give me a break.

[LkrFan]

Lakers just did the same thing to Xavier Henry in their Carmelo presentation...:lol

:lmao

[RsxPiimp]

You don't still don't get it. Players can be gullible as fuck, that's why agents requests for incentives, restrictions and conditions to protect their clients. The difference between a GM like Morey and Riley is simply reputation which leads to how they conduct business. One has the ability to attract useful players at a discounted rate while the other has no ability to get the same type of pieces unless overpaying for it.

[djohn2oo8]

You don't still don't get it. Players can be gullible as fuck, that's why agents requests for incentives, restrictions and conditions to protect their clients. The difference between a GM like Morey and Riley is simply reputation which leads to how they conduct business. One has the ability to attract useful players at a discounted rate while the other has no ability to get the same type of pieces unless overpaying for it.
:lmao Those useful players must be the reason Miami got their shit pushed in against SA.

[Spursfan092120]

I don't like Lin, but there is a level of professionalism that should be maintained.
This...Rockets staff were a-holes.

[RsxPiimp]

Yeah, nevermind the fact Ray Allen essentially gave Miami a chance to win the title in 2013 :lol

[jag]

Difference is, people want to play with Harden instead of The Achilles. Hell, Bible Kemp left $30 million on the table to escape the snitch even with 9 mouths to feed.

Damn. When you put it like that...

[djohn2oo8]

Yeah, nevermind the fact Ray Allen essentially gave Miami a chance to win the title in 2013 :lol
Ray Allen. Is he the only notable role player Riley pulled in? He was ring chasing anyway.

[LkrFan]

Kang showed respect to underprivileged children by raising money for the Boys' and Girls' club.

The Rockets disrespected a current member of their roster while begging for Fatmelo.

I was with you till you posted this whackass :downspin: :lol -100 points son. Kang shat on the CavsPERI:lmaoD

[LkrFan]

No, Kang just switched teams while raising money for charity.... Cleveland disrespected him with The Comic Sans Letter :lol

Damn son. You have more excuses than your owner Sterling. :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Damn son. You have more excuses than your owner Sterling. :lol
But do I have more excuses than you do when the immigration police come calling? :lol

[LkrFan]

But do I have more excuses than you do when the immigration police come calling? :lol

:lmao

[Gummi Clutch]

why are the rockets chasing after every big name as opposed to building a solid roster? They don't need more stars. For as good a GM Morey is supposed to be, h makes some pretty stupid fucking decisions.

[Thread]

why are the rockets chasing after every big name as opposed to building a solid roster? They don't need more stars. For as good a GM Morey is supposed to be, h makes some pretty stupid fucking decisions.

They need someone to transcend Howard & what's his face (I'm drawing a fucking blank). James would be fine catalyst, but, for some reason he ain't interested.

[Gummi Clutch]

They need someone to transcend Howard & what's his face (I'm drawing a fucking blank). James would be fine catalyst, but, for some reason he ain't interested.
He who opens his legs to every defender in the league?

[Thread]

He who opens his legs to every defender in the league?

That is where James would be a tool to repair that breakdown.

[benstanfield]

I don't understand why they are such starchasers??? Dwight, Harden and 4 six million dollar players is better than Dwert, harden, Melo, and sisco Garcia. If you don't think Howard plus Harden is enough star power to build a supporting cast around why sign them for so much money?

[ambchang]

No. They were loyal to both of them by signing them to dumb extensions when neither proved they could stay healthy. Then when they had opportunities to trade them, they didn't even though they were still in suits.

Opportunities to trade them for what? What's does tmac going through a surgery have to do with anything?

As for Yao, he was pullin in crazy revenue for the team. It would be dumb to trade him.

[BlackSwordsMan]

tee,hee Lakers can't even afford to hire someone with 1 month training in photoshop to make these kind of images
Kirby took all of the money and is stuck in LA. Let us proceed

[Thread]

tee,hee Lakers can't even afford to hire someone with 1 month training in photoshop to make these kind of images
Kirby took all of the money and is stuck in LA. Let us proceed

You've changed, darling.

[BlackSwordsMan]

You've changed, darling.

Nope you can't undo whats been done. You quit and left me.

[Thread]

Nope you can't undo whats been done. You quit and left me.

Please. You disappeared like a fart in the wind.

[BlackSwordsMan]

Please. You disappeared like a fart in the wind.

You quit PERIOD

[Thread]

You quit PERIOD

Please. I searched high & low for your cute ass. Everywhere I looked you weren't there. I finally gave up.

[Gummi Clutch]

You quit PERIOD
you were majining it up on the dark side. Forgetting who you were.

[jimbo]

No proof. His agent had no idea.

:lol

Lin went to HARVARD and you think he's stupid enough to not realize what was happening?

[100%duncan]

:lol

Lin went to HARVARD and you think he's stupid enough to not realize what was happening?

Missing the point Jimbo

[jimbo]

I'm making a new point

Only a scale from 1-retard, how dumb do you think Lin really is?

[100%duncan]

It's not not knowing but how he was being treated. They disrespected the guy who they jizzed over about when he came to Houston for a pseudo-superstar that probably won't come. Imagine the Spurs doing that to players? One guy said it earlier in this thread that Rockets should know better about treating their players like trash if they really want to build a 'ship team or improve as a whole (ala spurs) because right now they are not looking too good to FA's.

[mystargtr34]

This symbolises the Rocket's franchise IMO :lol

[djohn2oo8]

It's not not knowing but how he was being treated. They disrespected the guy who they jizzed over about when he came to Houston for a pseudo-superstar that probably won't come. Imagine the Spurs doing that to players? One guy said it earlier in this thread that Rockets should know better about treating their players like trash if they really want to build a 'ship team or improve as a whole (ala spurs) because right now they are not looking too good to FA's.
About tired of this whole "treated" nonsense. The reason this is a story is because Lin and Carmelo don't have a good history. Would Lin have said anything if it was LeBron? Doubt it.

[RsxPiimp]

It's not not knowing but how he was being treated. They disrespected the guy who they jizzed over about when he came to Houston for a pseudo-superstar that probably won't come. Imagine the Spurs doing that to players? One guy said it earlier in this thread that Rockets should know better about treating their players like trash if they really want to build a 'ship team or improve as a whole (ala spurs) because right now they are not looking too good to FA's.

This is what DJohn keeps ignoring and there has been multiple posters that stated this. His comeback will always be, "Players receives a large sum of money so they should STFU because this is how they do business"


Code of ethics does not exist.

[100%duncan]

About tired of this whole "treated" nonsense. The reason this is a story is because Lin and Carmelo don't have a good history. Would Lin have said anything if it was LeBron? Doubt it.

I didn't even take it to a personal level tbh. Just the business side of things.

[HemisfairArena]

Rockets wont win shit with Harden as one of their Big 2 or Big 3,,,or whatever. Dude is a fraud.

[Clipper Nation]

About tired of this whole "treated" nonsense. The reason this is a story is because Lin and Carmelo don't have a good history. Would Lin have said anything if it was LeBron? Doubt it.
Lin's history with Melo makes this look even worse on Houston's part, though :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Rockets wont win shit with Harden as one of their Big 2 or Big 3,,,or whatever. Dude is a fraud.
He did cost the spurs one though.

[Clipper Nation]

He did cost the spurs one though.
....then cost his own team one by vanishing in the Finals.

[djohn2oo8]

I didn't even take it to a personal level tbh. Just the business side of things.
I was speaking to how the media played this up. From a business side of things, no one will pass up money because of this.

[HemisfairArena]

He did cost the spurs one though.

Dude cost the Thunder their first title also.

[djohn2oo8]

....then cost his own team one by vanishing in the Finals.
Paul vanished wayyyy before :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Dude cost the Thunder their first title also.
They were not beating LeBron.

[HemisfairArena]

Harden is Ben Gordon part 2,,,nothing more. He will be more of a problem than a solution to the Rockets winning a title.

[Clipper Nation]

Paul vanished wayyyy before :lol
Choke Paul and Harden are the same type of choker, Paul just hasn't had the luxury of ever being the third option like Harden :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Harden is Ben Gordon part 2,,,nothing more. He will be more of a problem than a solution to the Rockets winning a title.

Kevin Martin was sure attracting niggas to Houston.

[djohn2oo8]

Choke Paul and Harden are the same type of choker, Paul just hasn't had the luxury of ever being the third option like Harden :lol
Deferring to Janerro Pargo takes you to a different level of choker.

[Gummi Clutch]

Harden would be great in a Manu role. Problem with Paul is, he'll always want to be the starting PG on a team, so I think Harden deff. wins a ring before Paul.

[Clipper Nation]

Deferring to Janerro Pargo takes you to a different level of choker.
14-47 (29%) shooting in the crucial first two games is beyond the pale when it comes to choking :lol

[djohn2oo8]

14-47 (29%) shooting in the crucial first two games is beyond the pale when it comes to choking :lol
And the best PG in the game can't even take the last shot. Janerro plz.

[Clipper Nation]

And the best PG in the game can't even take the last shot. Janerro plz.
If only he had Troy Daniels to bail him out of his choking :lol

[Gummi Clutch]

For last minute shots , Harden is actually 2nd only behind KD from what I read. So he's not a choker by that metric.

[djohn2oo8]

If only he had Troy Daniels to bail him out of his choking :lol
Yet Paul did not lose the ball. He could not stomach taking that shot. 100 million for it too.

[Clipper Nation]

Yet Paul did not lose the ball. He could not stomach taking that shot. 100 million for it too.
Harden can't stomach defense, moving off the ball, or scoring without flopping and getting food stamps :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Harden can't stomach defense, moving off the ball, or scoring without flopping and getting food stamps :lol

Yet he'll take the last shot. MVP candidates should at least attempt.

[Clipper Nation]

Yet he'll take the last shot.
And brick it, which is exactly the type of shit you mock Kirby for.


MVP candidates should at least attempt.
Blake is our MVP candidate, not Choke. Let us proceed...

[djohn2oo8]

And brick it, which is exactly the type of shit you mock Kirby for.



Stats say different
http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/88049/picking-the-most-clutch-in-nba-playoffs

[Clipper Nation]

Stats say different
http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/88049/picking-the-most-clutch-in-nba-playoffs
There's stats that make Choke Paul look clutch in the regular season too, big whoop :lol

[HemisfairArena]

Rocket fans are so invested in Harden,,,,you guys need to get over that dude and realize what you got. DHoward can do damage on the court. The guy carried a scrub Magic team to the Finals. Harden wants to take the bulk of the Rockets shots and that's why they lost in the 1st round. Feed Howard and get rid of Harden,,,but if you guys insist he's great,,,we will continue to laugh when he bricks you guys out of a title.

[djohn2oo8]

Rocket fans are so invested in Harden,,,,you guys need to get over that dude and realize what you got. DHoward can do damage on the court. The guy carried a scrub Magic team to the Finals. Harden wants to take the bulk of the Rockets shots and that's why they lost in the 1st round. Feed Howard and get rid of Harden,,,but if you guys insist he's great,,,we will continue to laugh when he bricks you guys out of a title.
No, that is not why they lost. His defense, McHale's coaching, and Terrence Jones getting abused by Aldridge.

[HemisfairArena]

No, that is not why they lost. His defense, McHale's coaching, and Terrence Jones getting abused by Aldridge.


I'm sorry,,,,say what? Harden took 133 shot attempts in that 1st round loss,,,DHoward only took 96. Harden is gonna be your downfall.

[sook]

Stats say different
http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/88049/picking-the-most-clutch-in-nba-playoffs

I've been hating on the fatass plenty, but make no mistake...he's been money in clutch time.

[sook]

I'm sorry,,,,say what? Harden took 133 shot attempts in that 1st round loss,,,DHoward only took 96. Harden is gonna be your downfall.

He's right, while Harden played a part, better coaching/TJ would have easily won us that series. The point still stands that he needs to be the 3rd banana/ Ginobili of this team as previously mentioned though.

[djohn2oo8]

He's right, while Harden played a part, better coaching/TJ would have easily won us that series. The point still stands that he needs to be the 3rd banana/ Ginobili of this team as previously mentioned though.
Yeah he doesn't need to be the third banana. First he needs to show up in the playoffs, however, trading Lin is addition by subtraction.

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[sook]

Removing Lin is big, but Harden needs to play less minutes (smaller role). The guy wasn't near as bad of a defender in OKC because he didn't have to focus as much on the offensive end. I remember hearing that he's battled asthma his entire life the day he was drafted, its no secret that he just waives his arms around and doesn't shift his feet on defensive possessions. Thats just gambling and lazy D to conserve energy. If he plays with that sort of intensity on the defensive end with someone else to shoulder the load offensively, we'll rarely have moments where our lineup will be as big of a liability as it has been.

[KaiRMD1]

Rockets ain't going anywhere, something is wrong with that team in general.

[djohn2oo8]

Rockets ain't going anywhere, something is wrong with that team in general.
There are plenty of reasons they wouldn't go anywhere, a number isn't one of them.

[Bill_Brasky]

Mchale..........��