View Full Version : Diaw reaches deal with spurs - 3 years/$22mil
Juggity
07-06-2014, 05:25 PM
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More details: (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--boris-diaw-gets--22-5-million-deal-to-re-sign-with-spurs-195943153.html)
Free-agent forward Boris Diaw (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3724/) has reached agreement on a three-year, $22.5 million contract to return to the defending NBA champion San Antonio Spurs, league sources told Yahoo Sports.Diaw, 32, transformed himself into an indispensable part of the Spurs' championship fiber and his return was considered a vital part of management's plan to compete for a sixth franchise title next season.
The third year of Diaw's deal is partially guaranteed, sources said. Diaw is guaranteed $18.5 million over the first two years of the deal, sources said.
Spurs general manager R.C. Buford and Diaw's agent Doug Neustadt completed the deal Sunday, sources said.
With Diaw's return set, the Spurs will continue their pursuit of free agent Pau Gasol with an offer of their midlevel exception, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
The deal includes protections for the Spurs' salary-cap space should the organization change direction in the next few years and move toward a rebuild after the Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili era.
Diaw had a tremendous NBA Finals for the Spurs, averaging 6.2 points, 8.6 rebounds and 5.8 assists in the five-game series victory over the Miami Heat.
In his 11 NBA seasons with Atlanta, Phoenix, Charlotte and San Antonio, Diaw has averaged 9.1 points, 4.7 rebounds and 3.7 assists.
Chris
07-06-2014, 05:26 PM
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silverblackfan
07-06-2014, 05:27 PM
Yay!
rasho8
07-06-2014, 05:27 PM
Fucking excellent. Good price as well.
ducks
07-06-2014, 05:27 PM
like the partial guarantee deal in 3
Gummi Clutch
07-06-2014, 05:28 PM
great deal.
Robz4000
07-06-2014, 05:28 PM
Great deal tbh. Now that all the important pieces are re-signed, lets see if the Spurs decide to do any other moves.
DesignatedT
07-06-2014, 05:28 PM
Bobo!
ducks
07-06-2014, 05:28 PM
lol at him making less then splitter
look_at_g_shred
07-06-2014, 05:29 PM
Welcome back BoBo!!!
baseline bum
07-06-2014, 05:29 PM
Nice! Can't believe he couldn't get the third year full guaranteed though. I figured his market value would be about 3 years, $21 million guaranteed. I hope it's frontloaded too, since the Spurs are in no danger whatsoever of hitting the luxury tax level this year.
Floyd Pacquiao
07-06-2014, 05:29 PM
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TheGreatYacht
07-06-2014, 05:29 PM
Hope he doesn't get fat again now that he got paid
Juggity
07-06-2014, 05:30 PM
More details: (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--boris-diaw-gets--22-5-million-deal-to-re-sign-with-spurs-195943153.html)
Free-agent forward Boris Diaw (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3724/) has reached agreement on a three-year, $22.5 million contract to return to the defending NBA champion San Antonio Spurs, league sources told Yahoo Sports.Diaw, 32, transformed himself into an indispensable part of the Spurs' championship fiber and his return was considered a vital part of management's plan to compete for a sixth franchise title next season.
The third year of Diaw's deal is partially guaranteed, sources said. Diaw is guaranteed $18.5 million over the first two years of the deal, sources said.
Spurs general manager R.C. Buford and Diaw's agent Doug Neustadt completed the deal Sunday, sources said.
With Diaw's return set, the Spurs will continue their pursuit of free agent Pau Gasol with an offer of their midlevel exception, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
The deal includes protections for the Spurs' salary-cap space should the organization change direction in the next few years and move toward a rebuild after the Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili era.
Diaw had a tremendous NBA Finals for the Spurs, averaging 6.2 points, 8.6 rebounds and 5.8 assists in the five-game series victory over the Miami Heat.
In his 11 NBA seasons with Atlanta, Phoenix, Charlotte and San Antonio, Diaw has averaged 9.1 points, 4.7 rebounds and 3.7 assists.
benefactor
07-06-2014, 05:30 PM
Great news:tu
ducks
07-06-2014, 05:30 PM
Hope he doesn't get fat again now that he got paid
why no guarantee 3 year this partial
objective
07-06-2014, 05:30 PM
A lot of money for a back up big with a history of food-quitting teams and passivity.
But I don't mind, reward money was earned and deserved.
Texas_Ranger
07-06-2014, 05:31 PM
YEAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ducks
07-06-2014, 05:31 PM
still after gasol
My Fault
07-06-2014, 05:31 PM
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That contract
Ditty
07-06-2014, 05:31 PM
Great contract! Would be nice to get someone with the MLE now to put us over the other WC teams, but I'll be satisfied with the same team :toast
ChumpDumper
07-06-2014, 05:31 PM
Now we can sign LeBron with all that cap space!
wildcardX
07-06-2014, 05:32 PM
While other contenders are going through the chaos of fighting for big names, the Spurs are smoothly re-signing the necessary pieces to make another run for the title.
ducks
07-06-2014, 05:32 PM
A lot of money for a back up big with a history of food-quitting teams and passivity.
But I don't mind, reward money was earned and deserved.
gortot just got 60 million
MeloHype
07-06-2014, 05:32 PM
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Great bargain, hometown discount, whatever!
Biggest news yet.
Vic Petro
07-06-2014, 05:32 PM
:danceclub
aal04
07-06-2014, 05:33 PM
Bit expensive, but he earned probably more than that in the finals last year.
ducks
07-06-2014, 05:33 PM
Nice! Can't believe he couldn't get the third year full guaranteed though. I figured his market value would be about 3 years, $21 million guaranteed. I hope it's frontloaded too, since the Spurs are in no danger whatsoever of hitting the luxury tax level this year.
looks like 18.5 is guaranteed
DesignatedT
07-06-2014, 05:33 PM
A lot of money for a back up big with a history of food-quitting teams and passivity.
But I don't mind, reward money was earned and deserved.
Pretty cheap get for our best player of the entire season last year tbh
loveforthegame
07-06-2014, 05:34 PM
:tu
Mills and Diaw were the priority.
Welcome back. Looking forward to three more years of delicious passing. :whine
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 05:35 PM
The summer is already a success. Anything more is gravy.
That's exactly the money Manu is getting which is a steal tbh... I always said that Manu's salary was the floor for his new deal...
djohn2oo8
07-06-2014, 05:35 PM
The third year of Diaw's deal is partially guaranteed, sources said. Diaw is guaranteed $18.5 million over the first two years of the deal, sources said.
Mugen
07-06-2014, 05:35 PM
Great stuff, awesome contract. Spurs are set for next year and still have the ability to add another solid piece.
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 05:35 PM
The third year of Diaw's deal is partially guaranteed, sources said. Diaw is guaranteed $18.5 million over the first two years of the deal, sources said.
Why you yellin'?
Vic Petro
07-06-2014, 05:36 PM
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Trill Clinton
07-06-2014, 05:37 PM
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ducks
07-06-2014, 05:37 PM
More details: (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--boris-diaw-gets--22-5-million-deal-to-re-sign-with-spurs-195943153.html)
Free-agent forward Boris Diaw (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3724/) has reached agreement on a three-year, $22.5 million contract to return to the defending NBA champion San Antonio Spurs, league sources told Yahoo Sports.Diaw, 32, transformed himself into an indispensable part of the Spurs' championship fiber and his return was considered a vital part of management's plan to compete for a sixth franchise title next season.
The third year of Diaw's deal is partially guaranteed, sources said. Diaw is guaranteed $18.5 million over the first two years of the deal, sources said.
Spurs general manager R.C. Buford and Diaw's agent Doug Neustadt completed the deal Sunday, sources said.
With Diaw's return set, the Spurs will continue their pursuit of free agent Pau Gasol with an offer of their midlevel exception, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
The deal includes protections for the Spurs' salary-cap space should the organization change direction in the next few years and move toward a rebuild after the Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili era.
Diaw had a tremendous NBA Finals for the Spurs, averaging 6.2 points, 8.6 rebounds and 5.8 assists in the five-game series victory over the Miami Heat.
In his 11 NBA seasons with Atlanta, Phoenix, Charlotte and San Antonio, Diaw has averaged 9.1 points, 4.7 rebounds and 3.7 assists.
baseline bum
07-06-2014, 05:39 PM
Hopefully Baynes stays on the $1.115 million QO and they can land a solid rotation player with the MLE. That would put their payroll about $8 million over last year's, but still $7 million shy of the tax. I wonder if they will spend the MLE though, considering they're going to have to pay Parker, Leonard, and Green significant contracts in the Summer of 2015, and if Tim and Manu want to stay then you have to budget at least $12 million or so combined for them too. Green should easily pull $8M starting, Parker $12M, Diaw will be at $9M, Splitter $8.5M, Mills at $4M, and Leonard should be starting at $16.5M.
Jenks
07-06-2014, 05:41 PM
A lot of money for a back up big with a history of food-quitting teams and passivity.
But I don't mind, reward money was earned and deserved.
Diaw's a funny dude. The way he plays for the Spurs he's actually worth more than this contract. But this is probably higher than his market value because of the likelyhood he'll just quit on any team that isn't a winner and doesn't play unselfish offense. So this contract is really win/win - Spurs get more than they're paying for, Diaw gets more than he'd get otherwise.
Budkin
07-06-2014, 05:43 PM
FO kicking ass once again. Welcome back Bobo!
ducks
07-06-2014, 05:43 PM
Hopefully Baynes stays on the $1.115 million QO and they can land a solid rotation player with the MLE. That would put their payroll about $8 million over last year's, but still $7 million shy of the tax. I wonder if they will spend the MLE though, considering they're going to have to pay Parker, Leonard, and Green significant contracts in the Summer of 2015, and if Tim and Manu want to stay then you have to budget at least $12 million or so combined for them too. Green should easily pull $8M starting, Parker $12M, Diaw will be at $9M, Splitter $8.5M, Mills at $4M, and Leonard should be starting at $16.5M.
sources say they are after gasol with the mld but if they do not get him they may keep it to
hsxvvd
07-06-2014, 05:43 PM
:lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt2:
Chris
07-06-2014, 05:43 PM
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The GROAT
TheyCallMePro
07-06-2014, 05:44 PM
Knew it was going to happen. Not a bad deal either. I hope Diaw continues to start like he did in the Finals. He's much better than Splitter.
Budkin
07-06-2014, 05:44 PM
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:lol :tu
baseline bum
07-06-2014, 05:45 PM
I imagine the first year is as frontloaded as the CBA allows.
Knew it was going to happen. Not a bad deal either. I hope Diaw continues to start as he did in the Finals. He's much better than Splitter.
:toast Kawhi will be an All Star for sure if Boris starts...
baseline bum
07-06-2014, 05:46 PM
If the Spurs are spending the MLE then Bonner is for sure gone if he won't play for the minimum.
Ron Swanson
07-06-2014, 05:46 PM
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itzsoweezee
07-06-2014, 05:47 PM
Wow, Boris got fleeced. Especially considering that the spurs are oneofthe most profitable teams in the league .
AFBlue
07-06-2014, 05:48 PM
Fucking sweet! Any deals after this are just icing on the cake tbqh.
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 05:48 PM
I imagine the first year is as frontloaded as the CBA allows.
Something like 8.0, 7.5, 7.0 would work.
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 05:49 PM
If the Spurs are spending the MLE then Bonner is for sure gone if he won't play for the minimum.
Minimum is 1.45M for Matt.
baseline bum
07-06-2014, 05:50 PM
Really excited to get Boris back. Couldn't imagine this team without him next season.
spurraider21
07-06-2014, 05:50 PM
Nice! Can't believe he couldn't get the third year full guaranteed though. I figured his market value would be about 3 years, $21 million guaranteed. I hope it's frontloaded too, since the Spurs are in no danger whatsoever of hitting the luxury tax level this year.
yeah hopefully its structured like splitter's
baseline bum
07-06-2014, 05:50 PM
Something like 8.0, 7.5, 7.0 would work.
Woj says the first two years are $18.5M, but no way that works under the CBA if the total deal is $22.5M, right?
baseline bum
07-06-2014, 05:52 PM
yeah hopefully its structured like splitter's
Pretty much win-win to do it that way. A little more capspace next year and Diaw gets paid in today's dollar instead of tomorrow's.
Mugen
07-06-2014, 05:52 PM
:lol It really helps that every other team knows that Boris would tank it for a shitty coach and low IQ players.
Hell, he might even tank it during the reg season next year. But I'm sure as hell glad he's back tbh.
People who come up with bs like "what other players make has no influence" can now stfu, it's no coincidence he agreed to take the exact same salary as Manu.
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 05:52 PM
Woj says the first two years are $18.5M, but no way that works under the CBA if the total deal is $22.5M, right?
No it doesn't. I'm sure the 18.5M number is the total of the salaries for years 1 and 2 plus the guaranteed portion of year 3.
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 05:53 PM
People who come up with bs like "what other players make has no influence" can now stfu, it's no coincidence he got exactly the same salary as Manu.
:rolleyes
buttsR4rebounding
07-06-2014, 05:53 PM
Woj says the first two years are $18.5M, but no way that works under the CBA if the total deal is $22.5M, right?
Yeah, I bet a total of 18.5 is guaranteed.
barakz21
07-06-2014, 05:53 PM
Thank you!!! Let the defense of the title begin!!!
baseline bum
07-06-2014, 05:55 PM
I think RC made a hell of a deal here. What a difference having a great GM makes, compared to the early 90s when the front office kept fucking things up around DRob.
Something like 8.0, 7.5, 7.0 would work.
Right, and I think the $18.5mm guaranteed is over the three years not over two as some people have quoted. That means year 3 would be $3.0mm guaranteed out of $7.0mm.
timtonymanu
07-06-2014, 05:56 PM
The gang is complete again.
Welcome back, Boris. :tu
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 05:56 PM
Right, and I think the $18.5mm guaranteed is over the three years not over two as some people have quoted. That means year 3 would be $3.0mm guaranteed out of $7.0mm.
Exactly.
MeloHype
07-06-2014, 05:59 PM
The gang is complete again.
Welcome back, Boris. :tuthe +/- king hasn't re signed yet
spurraider21
07-06-2014, 06:01 PM
so basically we have the same roster from last year, but need to presumably make space or Anderson. does that mean its over for Bonner? I'd rather have kept bonner for the min than keep daye around
baseline bum
07-06-2014, 06:02 PM
No it doesn't. I'm sure the 18.5M number is the total of the salaries for years 1 and 2 plus the guaranteed portion of year 3.
Woj has great sources, but apparently isn't that strong on his cap knowledge. He laid out an impossible scenario for Phoenix to max out James and Bosh in an article this week.
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 06:02 PM
so basically we have the same roster from last year, but need to presumably make space or Anderson. does that mean its over for Bonner? I'd rather have kept bonner for the min than keep daye around
They ended the season with 15 on the roster including Damion James. They have enough roster spots to bring everyone back and add Anderson.
SpursDynasty
07-06-2014, 06:02 PM
Good, this ensures the Spurs repeat in 2015.
Mugen
07-06-2014, 06:03 PM
so basically we have the same roster from last year, but need to presumably make space or Anderson. does that mean its over for Bonner? I'd rather have kept bonner for the min than keep daye around
Ditto tbh, especially after drafting SloMo. I'm still holding out hope that we can get rid of Daye/Ayres this summer.
baseline bum
07-06-2014, 06:03 PM
so basically we have the same roster from last year, but need to presumably make space or Anderson. does that mean its over for Bonner? I'd rather have kept bonner for the min than keep daye around
I really doubt Anderson sees much time on the roster next year. He'll almost certainly be in Austin most of the year like Joseph in his rookie season.
Spursfanfromafar
07-06-2014, 06:04 PM
No it doesn't. I'm sure the 18.5M number is the total of the salaries for years 1 and 2 plus the guaranteed portion of year 3.
Kudos to Boris and the Spurs for coming up with a very good contract for both sides. Boris will play for a team where his abilities are maximised and where he feels at home. He will also be paid a substantial increase from his previous contract (an annual increase of nearly 90% per year). As for the Spurs, they maintain a degree of cap flexibility in 2016-17 while retaining a good core of Leonard, Mills, Splitter, Diaw and Parker in 2015-16. If Manu Ginobili manages to stay healthy in the 2015 playoffs and then commits to a final year for the veteran's minimum or a much lower salary and perhaps if Duncan too does so, then the Spurs would be in a decent position to get a new FA to add to the mix in 2015 itself. Correct me if I am wrong, please!
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 06:04 PM
Woj has great sources, but apparently isn't that strong on his cap knowledge. He laid out an impossible scenario for Phoenix to max out James and Bosh in an article this week.
Yeah, he's the best, but he's not perfect. He also got some things wrong in an article about Aldridge's possible extension.
I really doubt Anderson sees much time on the roster next year. He'll almost certainly be in Austin most of the year like Joseph in his rookie season.
Meh Joseph asked to spend more time in Austin. I dont see it there, especially if Boris starts...
TheGreatYacht
07-06-2014, 06:05 PM
Can y'all wait until the details come out damn. No point in predicting the obvious
spurraider21
07-06-2014, 06:05 PM
I really doubt Anderson sees much time on the roster next year. He'll almost certainly be in Austin most of the year like Joseph in his rookie season.
well, as a first round pick, iirc he's guaranteed a spot on the 15 man roster... doesn't mean he can't be in austin/inactive, but a roster spot nonetheless
Ditto tbh, especially after drafting SloMo. I'm still holding out hope that we can get rid of Daye/Ayres this summer.
:lol nba if RC pulls that shit off
They ended the season with 15 on the roster including Damion James. They have enough roster spots to bring everyone back and add Anderson.
:tu forgot about james
r0drig0lac
07-06-2014, 06:05 PM
OFFICIAL: Spurs are repeating
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 06:07 PM
Kudos to Boris and the Spurs for coming up with a very good contract for both sides. Boris will play for a team where his abilities are maximised and where he feels at home. He will also be paid a substantial increase from his previous contract (an annual increase of nearly 90% per year). As for the Spurs, they maintain a degree of cap flexibility in 2016-17 while retaining a good core of Leonard, Mills, Splitter, Diaw and Parker in 2015-16. If Manu Ginobili manages to stay healthy in the 2015 playoffs and then commits to a final year for the veteran's minimum or a much lower salary and perhaps if Duncan too does so, then the Spurs would be in a decent position to get a new FA to add to the mix in 2015 itself. Correct me if I am wrong, please!
There are various possibilities, but I think they're moving the cap space window to 2017. Watch for an extension for Parker that ends in 2017, aligning his contract with Boris, Patty, and Splitter.
TheGreatYacht
07-06-2014, 06:08 PM
OFFICIAL: Spurs are repeating
Not if Manu plays for Argentina
TampaDude
07-06-2014, 06:09 PM
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ducks
07-06-2014, 06:09 PM
so basically we have the same roster from last year, but need to presumably make space or Anderson. does that mean its over for Bonner? I'd rather have kept bonner for the min than keep daye around
spurs have the mld to use want to use on gasol
vet min also
Mugen
07-06-2014, 06:10 PM
There are various possibilities, but I think they're moving the cap space window to 2017. Watch for an extension for Parker that ends in 2017, aligning his contract with Boris, Patty, and Splitter.
:lol That's f'n nuts considering how done the Spurs looked after 2010 & 2011 tbh.
Aztecfan03
07-06-2014, 06:11 PM
If the Spurs are spending the MLE then Bonner is for sure gone if he won't play for the minimum.
I hope so(plus if we sign baynes and someone for mle, there will be no more roster spots) But wouldn't we have his bird right too? We are enough under the luxury tax to get someone for mle with planty of room to spare.
Robz4000
07-06-2014, 06:11 PM
Ditto tbh, especially after drafting SloMo. I'm still holding out hope that we can get rid of Daye/Ayres this summer.
I'd like to hold onto Daye tbh; I think he hasn't gotten a fair shake yet in the NBA and the potential to be a rotation player is there. Errors can diaf tho.
Aztecfan03
07-06-2014, 06:12 PM
Woj says the first two years are $18.5M, but no way that works under the CBA if the total deal is $22.5M, right?
that number includes the guarantee from the third year i think.
buttsR4rebounding
07-06-2014, 06:12 PM
So 8, 7/.5, 7 with 3 guaranteed? Probably the numbers.
Aztecfan03
07-06-2014, 06:14 PM
Right, and I think the $18.5mm guaranteed is over the three years not over two as some people have quoted. That means year 3 would be $3.0mm guaranteed out of $7.0mm.
They are saying 2 yrs because if he is cut after two years, he is payed 18.5 but if he plays the third year he will get the rest of his salary.
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TD 21
07-06-2014, 06:16 PM
Good contract, both money and term wise (since they can basically to cut ties after two years). When you look at comparable players, as far as fringe starer - third bigs types, Gibson, Ilyasova and Anderson, all make $8-9M on average, while Bass, Johnson and Patterson, all make $6-7M on average. Diaw now slots in between the two groups, which is about right.
Arcadian
07-06-2014, 06:18 PM
:tu Spurs are officially contenders (perhaps favorites) to repeat.
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 06:20 PM
:lol That's f'n nuts considering how done the Spurs looked after 2010 & 2011 tbh.
Look at where the Lakers and the Spurs were 4 years ago today. Even the most delusional optimist couldn't have predicted where the two franchises would be in 2014.
Hemotivo
07-06-2014, 06:21 PM
great news; now they should get Gasol
Mugen
07-06-2014, 06:22 PM
I'd like to hold onto Daye tbh; I think he hasn't gotten a fair shake yet in the NBA and the potential to be a rotation player is there. Errors can diaf tho.
Eh, I like Daye too. Will have to see what he does in the offseason.
As of what I saw from him last season, he's too slow to guard 3s and too skinny to guard 4s. He has one NBA skill and the Spurs have shown the ability in the past to bring in shooters.
elemento
07-06-2014, 06:22 PM
Decent deal
7m/year with the last season partially guaranteed. Sign me up
Welcome back Boris !
kjhip1
07-06-2014, 06:23 PM
good deal for both parties, glad to see we have the team back together. I wonder if Tim decides to stay one more year after this. Lets say hypothetically the team gets another ring and Tim comes out healthy just as he did this year while playing at the same level, does he come back? does Manu? what do youll think?
DPG21920
07-06-2014, 06:24 PM
As an aside, that is a very nice contract for Boris. He was extremely valuable, but considering his age/fit with other teams and the holes in his game, that is probably the top end of what his value was IMO.
Robz4000
07-06-2014, 06:24 PM
Eh, I like Daye too. Will have to see what he does in the offseason.
As of what I saw from him last season, he's too slow to guard 3s and too skinny to guard 4s. He has one NBA skill and the Spurs have shown the ability in the past to bring in shooters.
Yep, he's gonna have to bulk up to have a place in the NBA, but with the Spurs allowing his contract to become guaranteed they must think he can.
xmas1997
07-06-2014, 06:26 PM
Now we can sign LeBron with all that cap space!
:lmao
Sometimes you still come up with something witty.
Bravo, chump.
Brunodf
07-06-2014, 06:29 PM
Damn, Spurs overpaid him, they must be really believing that Diaw will play near the level he played this season...
ffadicted
07-06-2014, 06:32 PM
Excellent news tbh
MaineSpursFan
07-06-2014, 06:33 PM
https://anthobuzz.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/robryanfuckyeahfuckface.gif
I'm no lip reader but this fellow seems to be excited. :rollin
ElNono
07-06-2014, 06:33 PM
Great deal.. welcome back Boris "The Animal"
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 06:34 PM
Damn, Spurs overpaid him, they must be really believing that Diaw will play near the level he played this season...
The MLE is 5.7M per year. He certainly could have commanded that. Boris got 7.5M per year and the third year is only partially guaranteed.
If he's overpaid, it's not by much and it was the amount necessary to keep him off the market.
picnroll
07-06-2014, 06:36 PM
Without Mills until March hope Parker stays reall healthy.rather see them target a decent PG than Gasol.
xmas1997
07-06-2014, 06:37 PM
So I wonder how aggressively they will go after Gasol?
If they really want him badly they will have to entice him better than Miami, OKC, and the other teams offering the MLE, as well as those offering more.
Mugen
07-06-2014, 06:40 PM
Gasol is a HUUUUUUUUGE long shot. People need to give up on him coming to SA tbh.
I'll be pretty surprised if the Spurs use the MLE...good news is that if they do, they must really think that player will be a huge contributor next season considering they've kept every key player from a championship year.
DWizz007
07-06-2014, 06:41 PM
Great news! Hopefully he will help the rookie develop and pick up some pointers on the NBA game. I like our chance to make another run at it next season.
Mr.Bottomtooth
07-06-2014, 06:45 PM
Exactly.
Appears to be the case. Woj's story now says it's $15.5 million guaranteed first two years.
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 06:46 PM
Appears to be the case. Woj's story now says it's $15.5 million guaranteed first two years.
Which would fit perfectly with a descending contract of 8.0/7.5/7.0
exstatic
07-06-2014, 06:48 PM
Welcome back. Looking forward to three more years of delicious passing. :whine
Warm, soft, fluffy croissants....
manufan10
07-06-2014, 06:49 PM
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Spur|n|Austin
07-06-2014, 06:51 PM
Great news!
SilverSpur
07-06-2014, 06:51 PM
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That's great welcome back. Now get in the weight room and stay in shape. Take Timmy, Manu and Austin Daye with you.
Spurs21Fan4Ever
07-06-2014, 06:53 PM
Love it! Now he needs to spend the offseason working on his outside shot. He needs to be more consistent on his threes and be able to be a little bit more of an outside threat.
slick'81
07-06-2014, 06:54 PM
18.5 guaranteed nice Boris nice
Shastafarian
07-06-2014, 06:55 PM
"That was not difficult." - Boris Diaw
exstatic
07-06-2014, 06:56 PM
so basically we have the same roster from last year, but need to presumably make space or Anderson. does that mean its over for Bonner? I'd rather have kept bonner for the min than keep daye around
I believe Damion James has already been cut loose, freeing spot #15 for Anderson. DJ is on Detroit's summer league team, meaning he's no longer under contract with us.
ColinB
07-06-2014, 06:57 PM
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exstatic
07-06-2014, 06:59 PM
Love it! Now he needs to spend the offseason working on his outside shot. He needs to be more consistent on his threes and be able to be a little bit more of an outside threat.
Not sure what you're looking for. He shot 40% this year. That's elite for a big.
exstatic
07-06-2014, 07:01 PM
I really doubt Anderson sees much time on the roster next year. He'll almost certainly be in Austin most of the year like Joseph in his rookie season.
He'll have to be on the 15 man NBA roster at all times, no matter if he's playing here or Austin.
Emperor
07-06-2014, 07:06 PM
Gasol should now consider us more seriously since this Spurs team is primed and ready to repeat no matter where he chooses.
baseline bum
07-06-2014, 07:06 PM
He'll have to be on the 15 man NBA roster at all times, no matter if he's playing here or Austin.
OK. Thanks!
exstatic
07-06-2014, 07:09 PM
good deal for both parties, glad to see we have the team back together. I wonder if Tim decides to stay one more year after this. Lets say hypothetically the team gets another ring and Tim comes out healthy just as he did this year while playing at the same level, does he come back? does Manu? what do youll think?
You can't find out you're done until you are. I'd hate to see Timmy wind up like Hakeem, a sad shadow his last year.
Double up and punch out. If Manu and Tim roll off, that would also allow us to pitch Gasol with a 2 year MLE deal with an opt out next summer, and pay him more than OKC or Miami can.
Splits
07-06-2014, 07:09 PM
https://vine.co/v/Mgqn5VEHaVM
MANUNG-Ginobili
07-06-2014, 07:11 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f6n9pMybfkU/UWhQIgh-nlI/AAAAAAAAA9Q/1bp_Z4x4TuU/s1600/05-09-14_kim-jong-un-cries_original.jpg
SupremeGuy
07-06-2014, 07:13 PM
I'm satisfied. Good deal for both sides, tbh.
Now let's just try to keep Baynes and maybe our stretch four +/- king Bonner!
SanDiegoSpursFan
07-06-2014, 07:13 PM
Very nice
TheGreatYacht
07-06-2014, 07:17 PM
I'm satisfied. Good deal for both sides, tbh.
Now let's just try to keep Baynes
FIFY
99 Problems
07-06-2014, 07:24 PM
:lobt2:Boris Diaw
spot2180
07-06-2014, 07:24 PM
I believe Damion James has already been cut loose, freeing spot #15 for Anderson. DJ is on Detroit's summer league team, meaning he's no longer under contract with us.
I saw Damion James on a summer league roster that wasn't the Spurs. Detroit, I believe.
Taking it to the Hole
07-06-2014, 07:37 PM
Our FO got it done! I don't think any other team in the league that is a better fit for Boris so I am glad he is not going anywhere. I am not sold on the idea of targeting Gasol with the full MLE, but if we get him, so be it. Maybe being in a better culture and not having to carry a team will rejuvenate his career? Spurs are know for jump-starting veteran's careers so anything is possible.
Marcus Bryant
07-06-2014, 07:41 PM
Now get Gasol on this team.
dbreiden83080
07-06-2014, 07:44 PM
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jkid12456
07-06-2014, 07:44 PM
bobo!
tholdren
07-06-2014, 07:44 PM
So I wonder how aggressively they will go after Gasol?
If they really want him badly they will have to entice him better than Miami, OKC, and the other teams offering the MLE, as well as those offering more.
I think the mention is just FO trolling, so everyone jumps on the Gasol ship, and throws a wrench into the mess that is FA2014, while SA either does nothing and laughs or does a sneak-a-roo....
or I could be totally wrong and SA gets Pau
Either way, GOOD CONTRACT
BatManu20
07-06-2014, 07:46 PM
Excellent :tu
ChumpDumper
07-06-2014, 07:46 PM
If you can get Gasol for the MLE, you do it and figure out the rotation later.
heyheymymy
07-06-2014, 07:54 PM
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Ah, I was so close!
I'm guessing he'll get 3yr/$21M.
Anyway, this is awesome news. Anything else the FO does after this is just cherry on top tbqh.
Obi Juan Kenobi
07-06-2014, 08:09 PM
Fantastic player for what he brings to this team at fantastic price, Spurs front office does it again!!!
Uriel
07-06-2014, 08:09 PM
"That was not difficult." - Boris Diaw
:lol
ironman2886
07-06-2014, 08:10 PM
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Uriel
07-06-2014, 08:12 PM
I think Diaw's market value was 3 yrs / $21M. The fact that he got $22.5M makes him slightly overpaid. But given that only $18.5M is guaranteed, that more than makes up for it, especially if the contract is front loaded.
One thing Spurs fans should watch out for 2 years from now is Boris being dangled as a trade chip. A partially guaranteed 3rd year would make him an intriguing asset for a team looking to create cap space.
Seventyniner
07-06-2014, 08:22 PM
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ace3g
07-06-2014, 08:33 PM
lol
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Darkwaters
07-06-2014, 08:39 PM
If you can get Gasol for the MLE, you do it and figure out the rotation later.
Totally agree. We're basically bringing back the team that nearly won back-to-back championships. And we won in convincing fashion last year. Acquiring Gasol is a major addition that adds another wrinkle. Plus hes a huge boost in preserving Tim during the regular season.
If nothing else, it keeps him off a potential competitor. And that might be the biggest advantage of signing him.
Good news, now the Spurs can spend that full MLE without any worry. And they better do it. There is no excuse now not to pursue a full MLE player. The Spurs can't stay the same and still expect to repeat. The Thunder and Mavs (especially if they get Deng) look to be the greatest threats. Have to stay one step ahead of them.
letmk
07-06-2014, 08:47 PM
Good news, now the Spurs can spend that full MLE without any worry. And they better do it. There is no excuse now not to pursue a full MLE player. The Spurs can't stay the same and still expect to repeat. The Thunder and Mavs (especially if they get Deng) look to be the greatest threats. Have to stay one step ahead of them.
Other than OKC, I would put LAC and Hou ahead of Mavs.
ace3g
07-06-2014, 09:00 PM
Maximum Sports @MaxSportsSA
(https://twitter.com/MaxSportsSA)Diaw's agent Doug Neustadt talks to Max Sports about Boris re-upping, says there were 3 other teams trying to pry him away from Spurs.
Maximum Sports @MaxSportsSA
(https://twitter.com/MaxSportsSA)Boris' agent breaks it all down on Max Sports, starting at 9:30 on Fox SA
Bartleby
07-06-2014, 09:07 PM
Diaw's agent Doug Neustadt talks to Max Sports about Boris re-upping, says there were 3 other teams trying to pry him away from Spurs.
Portland, Golden State and Dallas maybe?
cd021
07-06-2014, 09:19 PM
Love how the 3rd year is partially guaranteed for only $3 million of his $7 million owed in '16-'17. Very easy to move if necessary.
The actually salary is fairly irrelevant considering the Spurs weren't going to be near the luxury tax and should still have plenty to spend next off season to retool.
cd021
07-06-2014, 09:20 PM
Other than OKC, I would put LAC and Hou ahead of Mavs.
Memphis is probably still better Dallas at the moment as well.
And the core is back together!
Now just need to add one intriguing new piece, and let's get 2014-2015 started!
boutons_deux
07-06-2014, 09:32 PM
the Championship rotation is all back, and we have the fascination of watching KA try to SPEED THE FUCK UP!
vander
07-06-2014, 09:33 PM
wow that is damn cheap compared to other FA deals so far. he was finals co-MVP as far as I'm concerned.
HI-FI
07-06-2014, 09:39 PM
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:lol
this.
great news with Diaw. Spurs taking care of their own. :tu
tmtcsc
07-06-2014, 09:41 PM
The Spurs can't stay the same and still expect to repeat.
Sure we can. Who is better?
DrunkTXLabrat
07-06-2014, 09:50 PM
love this news.
RuffnReadyOzStyle
07-06-2014, 09:51 PM
A bit of an overpay for a 32yo, but we HAD to keep him and the money is irrelevant given that we couldn't have done anything better with it. Very glad to have him back! :)
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 09:56 PM
The Spurs can't stay the same and still expect to repeat.
A year ago people were saying that the Spurs couldn't stay the same and expect to get back to the Finals. They were wrong.
Chinook
07-06-2014, 10:00 PM
A year ago people were saying that the Spurs couldn't stay the same and expect to get back to the Finals. They were wrong.
Yep. I was one of the people who believed the Spurs were good enough to make it back. I think they are good enough again. But I'll be annoyed if they waste their MLE on another Ayres.
lowdown
07-06-2014, 10:01 PM
Great deal for both Diaw and the front office! Anybody who thinks he was overpaid is living in some type of fantasy land that has nothing to do with the existing NBA market. Just because he most likely wouldn't have the success he has with the Spurs in a different system with a different coach has nothing to do with how contracts are given. There are so many bad contracts throughout the league without much thought how that player is going to fit in one's system. I don't even think most GMs were even worried about the Bobcat year or his weight. Minnesota overpaid for J.J. Barea after Dallas won a championship. I'm still not sure why they signed him - except their GM was a dumbshit. The Clippers just signed Farmar 'cause they screwed up on the Darren Collison negotiations. Farmar isn't getting much, but that seemed like a panic move.
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 10:02 PM
Yep. I was one of the people who believed the Spurs were good enough to make it back. I think they are good enough again. But I'll be annoyed if they waste their MLE on another Ayres.
You won't be the only one.
tim_duncan_fan
07-06-2014, 10:03 PM
Everybody is coming back and we'll probably be able to just play all the important people about 27 minutes and still win 50+ because the bench is so retarded. I think that Cotton dude looks like a real scorer so if we are really adding him that's fantastic.
Guys, the league will be WEAKER next year...
Kindergarten Cop
07-06-2014, 10:05 PM
Guys, the league will be WEAKER next year...
As a whole, I agree - but if Gasol goes to OKC and/or Bosh goes to Houston, two of our biggest road blocks in the West will be even stronger.
ploto
07-06-2014, 10:11 PM
A year ago people were saying that the Spurs couldn't stay the same and expect to get back to the Finals. They were wrong.
They didn't stay the same.
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 10:12 PM
They didn't stay the same.
Yeah, they replaced Neal and Blair with Belinelli and Ayres.
Kindergarten Cop
07-06-2014, 10:27 PM
Yeah, they replaced Neal and Blair with Belinelli and Ayres.
Do you think that Patty gets the opportunities that he did if Neal was still on the team?
A year ago people were saying that the Spurs couldn't stay the same and expect to get back to the Finals. They were wrong.
And in 2008, Spurs stayed the same only to be whooped in the WCF.
Using the full MLE presents no risk next year. Either the player helps or he stays at the end of the bench and the Spurs carry the same roster in the playoffs. You rather have Holt put that money in his pocket? This is Duncan's money.
Ice009
07-06-2014, 10:37 PM
I can't believe so many people think that he was overpaid.
Look at what other players are getting, doesn't make sense to me that a lot of you think he was overpaid. If he had better stats, he's probably the finals co-MVP or MVP. He had a huge impact in the finals. Splitter was huge in the earlier rounds, so I definitely agree with the people that said he was also just as important, and that's why I thought that Diaw should get close to what Splitter gets.
I thought the minimum to get him back would be 8M, but I feel like he did the Spurs a favor with this contract. I just don't see how you guys think he was overpaid.
Ice009
07-06-2014, 10:41 PM
Yeah, they replaced Neal and Blair with Belinelli and Ayres.
Belinelli was huge in helping the Spurs get the first seed, so I disagree with you there. Ayres, I have no idea why the signed him. If the Spurs need another roster spot or two, they should look at cutting Ayres outright if they can't find someone to trade him to.
And in 2008, Spurs stayed the same only to be whooped in the WCF.
Using the full MLE presents no risk next year. Either the player helps or he stays at the end of the bench and the Spurs carry the same roster in the playoffs. You rather have Holt put that money in his pocket? This is Duncan's money.
I did not want the Spurs to stand pat in the 2007 off-season. I wanted them to try and reload, but I will say that that team didn't have anywhere near as much depth as they have now.
There was also huge moves by other teams that they didn't account for when they stood pat. The Lakers pulled the bullshit trade for Gasol and with Boston trading for Garnett and Allen, it put them down a little bit, so if you take away those two moves, Spurs might have still been the best team in the NBA (even with an injured Manu). Having said that, the Spurs have a lot more depth this year than they did back then, but I think they should still try to improve the team as much as possible, even if it is a couple of smaller moves.
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 10:41 PM
And in 2008, Spurs stayed the same only to be whooped in the WCF.
Using the full MLE presents no risk next year. Either the player helps or he stays at the end of the bench and the Spurs carry the same roster in the playoffs. You rather have Holt put that money in his pocket? This is Duncan's money.
So it can go either way? I thought so.
As to the MLE. Use it if there's a player available that improves the team. No reason to use just because you have it. Plus using it does present risks for next as it will eat into available cap to get a potentially much better player.
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 10:45 PM
Belinelli was huge in helping the Spurs get the first seed, so I disagree with you there. Ayres, I have no idea why the signed him. If the Spurs need another roster spot or two, they should look at cutting Ayres outright if they can't find someone to trade him to.
I'm not going to get into the Neal/Beli thing, especially since I agree with you. If we're talking about last summer, however, the vast majority of folks would have characterized Beli/Ayres for Neal/Blair as a lateral move at best.
MaNu4Tres
07-06-2014, 10:51 PM
Yeah, they replaced Neal and Blair with Belinelli, Ayres, and playing time for Patty Mills.
FIFY. Spurs made out like bandits. 13/14 Ayres vs. 12/13 Blair was a wash. Beli + Patty >> Neal
Ice009
07-06-2014, 10:54 PM
I'm not going to get into the Neal/Beli thing, especially since I agree with you. If we're talking about last summer, however, the vast majority of folks would have characterized Beli/Ayres for Neal/Blair as a lateral move at best.
Yeah, fair enough on that point. Before the season started, I would agree with what you've said.
Some people did also say that Belinelli isn't the Neal replacement, as we had Mills on the roster that could possibly do that job with Belinelli being another roster addition rather than a replacement.
Knoxxx
07-06-2014, 10:57 PM
Maybe we can trade Ayres to the Lakers for a draft pick. :-)
Splits
07-06-2014, 11:03 PM
Maybe we can trade Ayres to the Lakers for a draft pick. :-)
:lol no, they traded em all for Nashy
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 11:03 PM
FIFY. Spurs made out like bandits. 13/14 Ayres vs. 12/13 Blair was a wash. Beli + Patty >> Neal
Yeah, fair enough on that point. Before the season started, I would agree with what you've said.
Some people did also say that Belinelli isn't the Neal replacement, as we had Mills on the roster that could possibly do that job with Belinelli being another roster addition rather than a replacement.
Mills was behind Joseph in the 2013 playoff rotation. There wasn't a single person that had the slightest clue that Patty was going dramatically improve his fitness and earn those minutes behind Parker.
Neal was functioning as the 4th wing as Jackson's minutes were gradually reduced and he was finally cut. Beli took those minutes as the 4th wing.
Mills took the minutes that were up for grabs behind Parker. Minutes that were shuffled between DeColo, Cojo, Mills, and Neal last season.
MaNu4Tres
07-06-2014, 11:17 PM
Mills was behind Joseph in the 2013 playoff rotation. There wasn't a single person that had the slightest clue that Patty was going dramatically improve his fitness and earn those minutes behind Parker.
Neal was functioning as the 4th wing as Jackson's minutes were gradually reduced and he was finally cut. Beli took those minutes as the 4th wing.
Mills took the minutes that were up for grabs behind Parker. Minutes that were shuffled between DeColo, Cojo, Mills, and Neal last season.
Mills replaced Neal.
Belinelli replaced Jackson's regular season minutes + was an extra insurance piece added.
Ayres replaced Blair. IMO
Most of Neal's playing time as a Spur was at the back up point guard slot playing with Manu. Mills replaced that.
Most of Joseph's minutes from 11/12-12/13' came from Pop pulling Neal from the game due to this defensive bone-head mishaps.
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 11:19 PM
Mills replaced Neal.
Belinelli replaced Jackson's regular season minutes + was an extra insurance piece added.
Ayres replaced Blair.
Most of Neal's playing time as a Spur was at the back up point guard slot playing with Manu. Mills replaced that. Most of Joseph's minutes came from Pop pulling Neal from the game due to this defensive bone-head mishaps.
We disagree on Neal/Mills. No big deal.
exstatic
07-06-2014, 11:20 PM
wow that is damn cheap compared to other FA deals so far. he was finals co-MVP as far as I'm concerned.
It's for the same reason Anderson fell all the way to us in the draft. Other teams can't figure out how to use players like Bobo and SlowMo.
MaNu4Tres
07-06-2014, 11:24 PM
We disagree on Neal/Mills. No big deal.
No big deal. But do you honestly think Mills didn't replace Neal's role?
Maybe at the beginning of the year, you couldn't tell if Spurs improved or not on paper.
Truth is they did improve, eternally. Thanks to hard work from Boris, Leonard, Splitter, Danny, Manu and Patty ( all of these players improved).
I just honestly think Patty was the only one out of that cluster that was essentially an added piece because he wasn't part of the rotation the previous year. Neal used to own his role and spot.
lefty
07-06-2014, 11:26 PM
Great news
Our best French player
FireMicoHalili
07-06-2014, 11:29 PM
Damn he got paid
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 11:31 PM
No big deal. But do you honestly think Mills didn't replace Neal's role?
Yes. I believe that Beli took the role that Neal occupied by the end of 2012-13 season as the 4th wing and that Mills took the minutes behind Parker that were occupied by four different players over the course of 2012-13.
It definitely doesn't matter enough to go through game logs to try and prove it, but that's how I recall the way those players were used in 2012-13.
MaNu4Tres
07-06-2014, 11:33 PM
Yes. I believe that Beli took the role that Neal occupied by the end of 2012-13 season as the 4th wing and that Mills took the minutes behind Parker that were occupied by four different players over the course of 2012-13.
It definitely doesn't matter enough to go through game logs to try and prove it, but that's how I recall the way those players were used in 2012-13.
No biggie. Just happy Spurs brought back the band for another run.
Mel_13
07-06-2014, 11:39 PM
No biggie. Just happy Spurs brought back the band for another run.
Same here. Looking forward to Opening Night.
Old School 44
07-06-2014, 11:49 PM
It's for the same reason Anderson fell all the way to us in the draft. Other teams can't figure out how to use players like Bobo and SlowMo. So true, but outside of the Spurs great system, we have an ace in the whole with Bobo. Something no other team has...and that's having his best bud in his ear. Great signing!
Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-06-2014, 11:54 PM
A bit of an overpay for a 32yo, but we HAD to keep him and the money is irrelevant given that we couldn't have done anything better with it. Very glad to have him back! :)
He deserve the same as Manu IMO. He is critical when the Spurs matchup with OKC and Miami.
RuffnReadyOzStyle
07-07-2014, 12:09 AM
He deserve the same as Manu IMO. He is critical when the Spurs matchup with OKC and Miami.
Yeah, I retract my "slight over-payment" comment, even though I was clear that I only thought it was slight and the money didn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
When I read 22/3 with 3rd year only partially guaranteed for 3mil, my mind went to "so he's getting 9.5mil/yr for first two season", which does seem like a small overpay for an old guy, but my stupid brain was wrong. Of course he's basically getting ~7mil/yr, which is what I figured he'd get (I said 15/2 in other threads). My bad.
I'm not going to get into the Neal/Beli thing, especially since I agree with you. If we're talking about last summer, however, the vast majority of folks would have characterized Beli/Ayres for Neal/Blair as a lateral move at best.
:lol I don't think a "vast majority of folks" thought Belinelli replacing Neal was a lateral move. Most everyone welcomed Belinelli replacing Neal. Spurs made changes to the bench in 2014 and it worked out. Letting Neal and Blair go opened up more time for Mills and Diaw. Belinelli contributed well in the regular season.
Spurs won't have the same intense motivation next season to reach the finals again. They played out of their minds this season. The NBA landscape is always changing. A Gasol type trade can happen at any time. Standing still is a huge risk.
So it can go either way? I thought so.
Spurs haven't managed to repeat yet, so no, it doesn't go both ways.
Mel_13
07-07-2014, 12:24 AM
Spurs haven't managed to repeat yet, so no, it doesn't go both ways.
Moving goalposts. Not gonna play.
RuffnReadyOzStyle
07-07-2014, 12:51 AM
Spurs haven't managed to repeat yet, so no, it doesn't go both ways.
That is one reason their motivation will still be high.
The second is that it's like TD/Manu/Pop's farewell tour, and everyone wants to go out on a high.
superbigtime
07-07-2014, 12:52 AM
This is awesome news. Very fair contract compared with other Spurs salaries. He's not being overpaid and for the last years as he's been resurrecting his career, he has been underpaid, so Boris got what was coming to him. What a relief! So glad Boris re-signed!!
Splits
07-07-2014, 12:52 AM
That is one reason their motivation will still be high.
The second is that it's like TD/Manu/Pop's farewell tour, and everyone wants to go out on a high.
Pop won't walk when Duncan walks. If that were the plan, Bud would've never left. I predict Tim, barring injury, plays another 3 years and Pop outlasts him by 2 or more.
mudyez
07-07-2014, 01:05 AM
Love it!
Love this fat french bastard!
Now declaring myself a dual-fav-player-fan! Manu+Diaw it is!
BG_Spurs_Fan
07-07-2014, 01:13 AM
Meeks 3/19
Diaw 3/22 with non-guaranteed 3rd
:lol NBA
Mark in Austin
07-07-2014, 01:19 AM
Meeks 3/19
Diaw 3/22 with non-guaranteed 3rd
:lol NBA
:lol
100%duncan
07-07-2014, 01:19 AM
Meeks 3/19
Diaw 3/22 with non-guaranteed 3rd
:lol NBA
:lol
Fireball
07-07-2014, 01:37 AM
Great stuff ... another great season of awesome passing and Spurs offense coming up ...
Holden_Caulfield
07-07-2014, 02:32 AM
:flag:
spurraider21
07-07-2014, 02:45 AM
i'm interested in the contract specifics tbh, anybody have a clue when that stuff gets released?
MannyIsGod
07-07-2014, 02:19 PM
I'm not going to get into the Neal/Beli thing, especially since I agree with you. If we're talking about last summer, however, the vast majority of folks would have characterized Beli/Ayres for Neal/Blair as a lateral move at best.
If you thought Manu was going to play as well as he did or that Patty would have such a breakout year then props. I didn't.
Mel_13
07-07-2014, 06:11 PM
If you thought Manu was going to play as well as he did or that Patty would have such a breakout year then props. I didn't.
See post #185
dg7md
07-07-2014, 07:59 PM
This is the best offseason news yet. That deal practically ensures Diaw will finish his career as a Spur, which he should, be became an instrumental player in our system and is one of the best roleplayers in the NBA. No way we steamroll through the Finals like we did without Diaw. Hell, I don't know if we would have beaten OKC without Diaw.
letmk
07-07-2014, 10:35 PM
Pop won't walk when Duncan walks. If that were the plan, Bud would've never left. I predict Tim, barring injury, plays another 3 years and Pop outlasts him by 2 or more.
If, big if, Tim can play another 3 more years, I doubt Pop could coach more after that. He is 65 years old, and will be 68 by then. And with the assumption of Tim continuing playing, comes that he is in good body condition. Thus the Spurs should be in contention every year, and that would make huge tolling on Pop. We all see his finally-relaxed expression after game 5.
If Tim retires after next year, the Spurs will be in rebuild mode, or at least no high expectation, and the coaching would be much "easier."
RuffnReadyOzStyle
07-08-2014, 03:17 AM
If you thought Manu was going to play as well as he did or that Patty would have such a breakout year then props. I didn't.
Before this season I predicted that Patty would come out and earn the backup slot, but then I did the same before the 2013 season and he wasn't ready. And yeah, I didn't think he'd be as good as he turned out to be, no-one saw that coming.
As for Manu, I honestly thought he was done as he looked to have lost a step last year, and he was atrocious (except game 5) in last year's Finals. As it turned out, his demise was due to leg-weariness, and no-one is gladder than I to be wrong about that! :lol
I hope Manu has one more strong season left in him, and that's a 2015 march to the Championship! ;)
Perry Mason
07-08-2014, 10:40 AM
Did anyone see the TV segment where Diaw's agent was going to elaborate on the interest of other teams and what they were offering?
Ice009
07-08-2014, 10:48 AM
Did anyone see the TV segment where Diaw's agent was going to elaborate on the interest of other teams and what they were offering?
I was waiting for info from that segment myself, but no one posted anything about it. I thought the TV segment was supposed to be the other day, unless it hasn't aired yet?
Kindergarten Cop
07-08-2014, 10:51 AM
Did anyone see the TV segment where Diaw's agent was going to elaborate on the interest of other teams and what they were offering?
I was waiting for info from that segment myself, but no one posted anything about it. I thought the TV segment was supposed to be the other day, unless it hasn't aired yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEP4dPpvOG0
xmas1997
07-08-2014, 10:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEP4dPpvOG0
I saw it and he never said which three teams, just that there were three teams.
Kineto
07-08-2014, 11:07 AM
Good interview of diaw in french media : http://sport24.lefigaro.fr/basket/nba/actualites/diaw-je-suis-a-la-fois-facile-et-tres-difficile-a-coacher-703466
Sport24.com : Vous prolongez chez les Spurs (pour trois ans et 22,5M$ selon les médias américains (http://sport24.lefigaro.fr/basket/nba/actualites/diaw-rempile-a-san-antonio-703344), Ndlr). Ce choix était-il une évidence pour vous ?
Boris Diaw : Oui et non. Forcément, c'était mon option numéro 1. Mais je ne serais pas revenu à n'importe quelle condition. Je pense qu'ils avaient aussi envie de me garder (sourire). Il fallait trouver un terrain d'entente.
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Avez-vous tout de même été approché par d'autres franchises ? On a notamment parlé de l'intérêt de Portland ou de Miami dans la presse américaine...
Oui, j'ai eu des contacts. Miami ? Non. Portland ? Oui, ils étaient intéressés. Comme ils l'étaient par d'autres joueurs. J'ai parlé à d'autres équipes, mais je n'ai eu aucune négociations très avancées. Comme je le disais, un certain nombre d'équipes attendent de savoir ce que va faire LeBron James, déjà. D'ailleurs, ce n'est pas le seul free-agent important. Chris Bosh est libre. Pau Gasol aussi... Bref, je n'ai pas eu de contact poussé.
Kindergarten Cop
07-08-2014, 11:10 AM
I saw it and he never said which three teams, just that there were three teams.
I was just posting the segment they were asking for. It's likely that we'll never know of the other 3 or 4 teams that were targeting Diaw (or honestly if there really were that many teams). I think Diaw could have drawn more interest, as his agent suggested, if he would have waited until more dominoes fell - but the mutual desire for Diaw to remain a Spur was evident and made a need to wait unnecessary.
xmas1997
07-08-2014, 11:22 AM
I was just posting the segment they were asking for. It's likely that we'll never know of the other 3 or 4 teams that were targeting Diaw (or honestly if there really were that many teams). I think Diaw could have drawn more interest, as his agent suggested, if he would have waited until more dominoes fell - but the mutual desire for Diaw to remain a Spur was evident and made a need to wait unnecessary.
We do know that one of the teams was Portland.
Kindergarten Cop
07-08-2014, 11:26 AM
We do know that one of the teams was Portland.
It was rumored considering that they were seeking a "stretch 4", but point taken.
Jordanobili2320
07-08-2014, 12:13 PM
Love Diaw.
will_spurs
07-08-2014, 03:40 PM
He didn't "get paid", he just made the Spurs a huge favor with his previous contract...
Glad to see him back.
bklynspursfan
07-08-2014, 04:22 PM
On when the team realized it could win the NBA title during the regular season:
We were so looking for perfection throughout the season it is difficult to answer. But still, towards the end of the regular season, we were back in front of Oklahoma City at the top of the Western Conference. We seemed to play more moderately, with a spate of injuries. We wondered how we could be first in these conditions. This is where we said: “Maybe the other teams are not so strong” (smiles).
http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/diaw-on-his-new-contract-with-spurs-we-found-common-ground.html
Ed Helicopter Jones
07-09-2014, 11:53 AM
I think RC made a hell of a deal here. What a difference having a great GM makes, compared to the early 90s when the front office kept fucking things up around DRob.
I was thinking the same thing. Imagine this FO group managing things around DRob all those years. We would have witnessed some epic Spurs/Bulls Finals.
Jimcs50
07-09-2014, 01:13 PM
While other contenders are going through the chaos of fighting for big names, the Spurs are smoothly re-signing the necessary pieces to make another run for the title.
Would'nt it be ironic if the Spurs repeat this next year when the other 4 championships were with a younger returning team and they all failed to repeat.
romain.star
07-09-2014, 02:00 PM
Would'nt it be ironic if the Spurs repeat this next year when the other 4 championships were with a younger returning team and they all failed to repeat.
the Big 3 is indeed quite older but isn't the rest of the roster much younger (Leonard, Mills, Green, Splitter, Bellineli, Joseph, Ayers, Baynes)?
SpursFan86
07-16-2014, 02:14 PM
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spurraider21
07-16-2014, 02:17 PM
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4/28? that's new
jhfenton
07-16-2014, 03:15 PM
4/28? that's new
So if it's a declining deal as reported that might mean something like $7,875,000; $7,284,375; $6,693,750; $6,103,125, with a partial guarantee the third year and an unguaranteed fourth year. (My numbers total $27,956,250 with 7.5% decreases.)
spurraider21
07-16-2014, 04:08 PM
So if it's a declining deal as reported that might mean something like $7,875,000; $7,284,375; $6,693,750; $6,103,125, with a partial guarantee the third year and an unguaranteed fourth year. (My numbers total $27,956,250 with 7.5% decreases.)
yep. and based on that, after the 2nd season the remaining guaranteed pay is only 2.34 mil, which if the spurs chose, could free up about 4.3 mil in cap space. the non-guaranteed pay would also make him a potential trade asset for a team looking to shed quick salary.
now of course i wouldn't want it to come to that, but its just options to be looking at with a 30+ player signing a multiyear deal.
still, this is the first im hearing of it being a 4 year deal, so i'll wait until some details come out
Aggie Hoopsfan
07-16-2014, 04:48 PM
We know Portland, my guess is Miami and probably Houston as the others. Miami because they got the front row show for Diaw's Finals, and Houston because they're punks with money and hate our front office.
Richie
07-16-2014, 06:46 PM
So if it's a declining deal as reported that might mean something like $7,875,000; $7,284,375; $6,693,750; $6,103,125, with a partial guarantee the third year and an unguaranteed fourth year. (My numbers total $27,956,250 with 7.5% decreases.)
yep. and based on that, after the 2nd season the remaining guaranteed pay is only 2.34 mil, which if the spurs chose, could free up about 4.3 mil in cap space. the non-guaranteed pay would also make him a potential trade asset for a team looking to shed quick salary.
now of course i wouldn't want it to come to that, but its just options to be looking at with a 30+ player signing a multiyear deal.
still, this is the first im hearing of it being a 4 year deal, so i'll wait until some details come out
I think, looking at the numbers, it's much more likely to be $7m per year with no increase/decrease, which would make the 3rd year 50% guaranteed. The numbers just fit a lot nicer that way.
spurraider21
07-16-2014, 06:50 PM
I think, looking at the numbers, it's much more likely to be $7m per year with no increase/decrease, which would make the 3rd year 50% guaranteed. The numbers just fit a lot nicer that way.
since the spurs weren't looking to preserve cap room this season, it would actually make more sense to frontload it. from a cap room perspective, the numbers fit a lot nicer that way
Richie
07-16-2014, 06:56 PM
since the spurs weren't looking to preserve cap room this season, it would actually make more sense to frontload it. from a cap room perspective, the numbers fit a lot nicer that way
Actually in a 4 year deal, from a cap room perspective for next season it makes sense to backload it. Considering we'll be bringing back Kawhi next year (likely at the max) we won't have cap space after the summer of 2015 so it makes little sense to try to save space for that year.
Uriel
07-17-2014, 01:07 AM
For the record, Pau Gasol's contract is 3 yrs / $22M. Given that the Spurs signed Diaw for essentially the same price, R.C. not only overpaid Diaw, he chose him over Gasol.
spurraider21
07-17-2014, 01:28 AM
For the record, Pau Gasol's contract is 3 yrs / $22M. Given that the Spurs signed Diaw for essentially the same price, R.C. not only overpaid Diaw, he chose him over Gasol.
no. the spurs signed Diaw with Bird rights. they didn't have enough cap room to sign Gasol, even for the same amount as we gave Diaw.
exstatic
07-17-2014, 06:04 AM
no. the spurs signed Diaw with Bird rights. they didn't have enough cap room to sign Gasol, even for the same amount as we gave Diaw.
This.
BG_Spurs_Fan
07-17-2014, 06:19 AM
no. the spurs signed Diaw with Bird rights. they didn't have enough cap room to sign Gasol, even for the same amount as we gave Diaw.
Theoretically they could have opened enough cap space for Gasol by renouncing Diaw and Mills.
Wonder what other part of the initial report was wrong. If they are unguaranteed years at the end, it may make sense for the spurs to have increases as opposed to decreases over time.
exstatic
07-17-2014, 06:32 AM
Wonder what other part of the initial report was wrong. If they are unguaranteed years at the end, it may make sense for the spurs to have increases as opposed to decreases over time.
It wouldn't make sense for Boris to sign that, though. He sees them sign Tiago to a decreasing deal, with all his big money up front, and the Spurs would offer him a deal with the largest year(s) unguaranteed?
I agree, just looking at it from the team's perspective. Then again, the team may like the decreasing figures (along with Tiagos deal) as it will help offset Leonard's increasing salary on his next deal.
Richie
07-17-2014, 09:46 AM
I agree, just looking at it from the team's perspective. Then again, the team may like the decreasing figures (along with Tiagos deal) as it will help offset Leonard's increasing salary on his next deal.
Once we renew Parker and extend Leonard, I doubt we'll have any cap space for years.
cd021
07-17-2014, 09:57 AM
Once we renew Parker and extend Leonard, I doubt we'll have any cap space for years.
Cap is supposed to jump to $67 million next year and projected to sky rocket to $80 million in two years. The Spurs could be swimming in cap space in two seasons.
Richie
07-17-2014, 10:13 AM
Cap is supposed to jump to $67 million next year and projected to sky rocket to $80 million in two years. The Spurs could be swimming in cap space in two seasons.
Where has that projection come from for two years time? I know the TV deals are going to be renegotiated but that will almost certainly come along with another lockout followed by a new CBA, I don't see how there can be any serious projections from 2017 onwards when there are so many variables.
With the cap jumping next summer and Kawhis cap hold only $7m, we have a chance to add a max player (assuming Timmy and Manu retire). I think that's that needs to be the priority.
mrjap2x
07-17-2014, 10:18 AM
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Is this a typo>
Chinook
07-17-2014, 10:19 AM
Even if Leonard gets maxed out, the Spurs stand to have a ton of cap space in 2017. The only player currently under contract is Diaw.
spurraider21
07-17-2014, 01:18 PM
Theoretically they could have opened enough cap space for Gasol by renouncing Diaw and Mills.
Which would have been a bad move. Plus it confirms that we didn't choose diaw over pau, but rather chose Diaw+ mills over pau. Quite different
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