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StrengthAndHonor
07-07-2014, 05:19 PM
Mavericks pushing on an offer sheet agreement with Houston restricted free agent Chandler Parsons, league sources tell Yahoo.

Woj

jag
07-07-2014, 05:43 PM
The Rockets should forget Melo and hold on to Parsons. Morey should be looking for a new HC instead of chasing a career loser.

AaronY
07-07-2014, 05:46 PM
The Rockets should forget Melo and hold on to Parsons. Morey should be looking for a new HC instead of chasing a career loser.

troof bombs

illusioNtEk
07-07-2014, 05:50 PM
parsons is very underrated

I hope Houston wont lose him as it would be a step backwards toward a true elite team

RsxPiimp
07-07-2014, 05:54 PM
The Rockets should forget Melo and hold on to Parsons. Morey should be looking for a new HC instead of chasing a career loser.

So true. Melo is such a bad fit for the Rockets.

Clipper Nation
07-07-2014, 05:56 PM
parsons is very underrated
Parsons has been called "underrated" so much that he's cycled all the way around to being overrated.... how soon we forget how he proclaimed himself as "the best small forward in the series" these playoffs only for Batum to take a sloppy wet shit on him :lol

Floyd Pacquiao
07-07-2014, 05:58 PM
If he signs with dallas this moves them to a 5th seed imo

illusioNtEk
07-07-2014, 06:01 PM
If he signs with dallas this moves them to a 5th seed imo


did you forget how much trouble we had vs DALLAS in first round?

Id say... Dallas is top 5 right now in my book

RsxPiimp
07-07-2014, 06:08 PM
Cubes trolling Morey tho:lol

Leon Black
07-07-2014, 06:10 PM
lol Cuban knows he has no shot here....... he just wants to fuck morey over.

lil_penny
07-07-2014, 06:16 PM
Good signing for the Mavs if they are able

Chinook
07-07-2014, 06:24 PM
Dallas should go for Thomas over Parsons -- more attainable and a better fit. They really need a defensive specialist on the perimeter. Tyson alone does not make Dallas' defense elite.

spurraider21
07-07-2014, 06:33 PM
If Dallas gets him on an offer sheet quickly it gives Houston limited time to get deals done before Parsons' cap number spikes. Houston was stupid to not exercise his option... All to save a tiny bit of cap space which they probably won't be able to use anyway

RsxPiimp
07-07-2014, 06:39 PM
If Dallas gets him on an offer sheet quickly it gives Houston limited time to get deals done before Parsons' cap number spikes. Houston was stupid to not exercise his option... All to save a tiny bit of cap space which they probably won't be able to use anyway

This is Cubes way of giving Morey the big FU when Morey went after Dirk :lol

djohn2oo8
07-07-2014, 06:40 PM
This is Cubes way of giving Morey the big FU after Morey went after Dirk :lol
Morey will match. Cuban could only fuck himself over on this one.

ElNono
07-07-2014, 06:43 PM
Would Parsons signing the offer sheet change the cap situation for Houston at all?

RsxPiimp
07-07-2014, 06:43 PM
Morey will match. Cuban could only fuck himself over on this one.

He would do course and Cuban knows this but it couldn't happen at a more critical time with Lin's salary still on board and Morey going after Bosh or Melo for the max, Cubes is just being a mischievous SOB .:lol

djohn2oo8
07-07-2014, 06:44 PM
Would Parsons signing the offer sheet change the cap situation for Houston at all?
Yes. Which is why he needs to wait until they use their max money elsewhereand THEN sign a sheet, or he could really fuck them over.

djohn2oo8
07-07-2014, 06:45 PM
He would do course and Cuban knows this but it couldn't happen at a more critical time with Lin's salary still on board and Morey going after Bosh or Melo for the max, Cubes is just being a mischievous SOB .:lol
Which is why Parsons probably won't sign anything before they make a move. Probably a wink wink deal between him and Morey.

Chinook
07-07-2014, 06:45 PM
If Dallas gets him on an offer sheet quickly it gives Houston limited time to get deals done before Parsons' cap number spikes. Houston was stupid to not exercise his option... All to save a tiny bit of cap space which they probably won't be able to use anyway

We've talkef about this, but it makes decent long-term success to givr give Parsons a new deal now rather than waiting a year or extending him. It allows them to make his cap hits more manageable down the line.

ElNono
07-07-2014, 06:48 PM
Yes. Which is why he needs to wait until they use their max money elsewhereand THEN sign a sheet, or he could really fuck them over.

I wonder how much that's worth... it's not like Parsons owes anything to Houston, they didn't pick up his option and he has an offer he likes from the Mavs...

djohn2oo8
07-07-2014, 06:49 PM
I wonder how much that's worth... it's not like Parsons owes anything to Houston, they didn't pick up his option and he has an offer he likes from the Mavs...
They are paying him a year earlier when they didn't have to. He does owe them in a way.

spurraider21
07-07-2014, 06:50 PM
We've talkef about this, but it makes decent long-term success to givr give Parsons a new deal now rather than waiting a year or extending him. It allows them to make his cap hits more manageable down the line.
Makes the hits smaller down the line but much larger than it otherwise would be this year, although if he waits before signing an offer sheet it could offset that. But it's ultimately one less year of potential control

Mugen
07-07-2014, 06:51 PM
Yeah, honestly a Mavs team with Parsons is better than a HOU team with Parson (assuming) they stay pat tbh.

If he likes the contract and the organization then I don't see why he waits to sign an offer sheet. Maybe he's pressured to wait by Dwight or something, but I say sign it if Cubes is willing to fork over the cash.

djohn2oo8
07-07-2014, 06:51 PM
Yeah, honestly a Mavs team with Parsons is better than a HOU team with Parson (assuming) they stay pat tbh.

If he likes the contract and the organization then I don't see why he waits to sign an offer sheet. Maybe he's pressured to wait by Dwight or something, but I say sign it if Cubes is willing to fork over the cash.

No.

ElNono
07-07-2014, 06:51 PM
They are paying him a year earlier when they didn't have to. He does owe them in a way.

That's the Rockets decision due to trying to clear capspace... has nothing to do with Parsons.

ElNono
07-07-2014, 06:52 PM
Yeah, honestly a Mavs team with Parsons is better than a HOU team with Parson (assuming) they stay pat tbh.

If he likes the contract and the organization then I don't see why he waits to sign an offer sheet. Maybe he's pressured to wait by Dwight or something, but I say sign it if Cubes is willing to fork over the cash.

Agreed. Mavs biggest issue right now is a competitive SF... but you put Parsons and back him up with Marion, and they have that solved.

Mugen
07-07-2014, 06:53 PM
No.

Felton/Ellis/Parsons/Dirk/Chandler plus Vince/Marion off the bench with Carlisle coaching

>

Beverly/Harden/Parson/Jones/Howard plus Lin/Daniesls off the bench with McFail coaching

tbh.

djohn2oo8
07-07-2014, 06:55 PM
That's the Rockets decision due to trying to clear capspace... has nothing to do with Parsons.
Parsons asked to be paid a year early. It had nothing to do with trying to clear space.

DMX7
07-07-2014, 06:55 PM
Parsons is good. The kind of guy that the Spurs typically pickup and make a stud.

ElNono
07-07-2014, 06:55 PM
I think if the Mavs roll with Felton, they're making a huge mistake. They need to trade him for a steady hand. Nothing shinny or special, just a guy that can distribute the ball and play some defense.

Mugen
07-07-2014, 06:59 PM
Yeah, if I were Cuban, I'd plant a couple of glocks in Felton's car and tip off his probation officer tbh.

ElNono
07-07-2014, 07:00 PM
Parsons asked to be paid a year early. It had nothing to do with trying to clear space.

:lol of course it has everything to do with clearing capspace and chasing stars. They're not going to give him a raise if they don't have to.

Parsons had zero say on the team declining picking up his option. It's a gamble Houston took all on it's own. I'm just wondering what the bonus is going to be so he doesn't sign off that sheet of paper.

spurraider21
07-07-2014, 07:02 PM
Parsons asked
oh.

he should ask for a max and a new yacht too if its that easy

Mugen
07-07-2014, 07:07 PM
Parsons pulling a Boozer on Morey would be hilarious tbh.

Chinook
07-07-2014, 07:12 PM
Makes the hits smaller down the line but much larger than it otherwise would be this year, although if he waits before signing an offer sheet it could offset that. But it's ultimately one less year of potential control

If they give him a declining contract, it could help offset the increasing contracts of Harden, Howard and Melo. That's a big deal. They'll have plenty of time to address his contract before a team can even give him an offer sheet.

Mel_13
07-07-2014, 07:15 PM
:lol of course it has everything to do with clearing capspace and chasing stars.

Declining the option resulted in less cap space.

ElNono
07-07-2014, 07:17 PM
Declining the option resulted in less cap space.

I thought that let's them offer a bigger deal to the Bosh/Melo of the world?

Malik Hairston
07-07-2014, 07:18 PM
Wouldn't be a bad signing, but Parsons is really soft, tbh..typical White player hype, though..

Mel_13
07-07-2014, 07:19 PM
I thought that let's them offer a bigger deal to the Bosh/Melo of the world?

No, the opposite. His current cap hold is considerably higher than his former salary.

ElNono
07-07-2014, 07:21 PM
No, Not he opposite. His current cap hold is considerably higher than his former salary.

Woj had it wrong then?

For the Rockets, there are two distinct advantages to letting Parsons into restricted free agency now. First, Houston is determined to clear the necessary salary cap space this summer to chase a third maximum contract free agent to join Dwight Howard and James Harden, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

Houston plans to pursue the major stars who could be available upon opting out of deals, including Miami's LeBron James and Chris Bosh, and New York's Carmelo Anthony, league sources said. Dallas' Dirk Nowitzki is expected to be a target too.

The Rockets are pursuing Minnesota's Kevin Love in trade talks too, and Parsons could hold sign-and-trade possibilities.

In one scenario, Houston could secure three max-out players – including Howard, Harden and a potential star free agent – and then re-sign Parsons to an extension below the max-level range. Parsons could command in the $12 million to $13 million annual range, league executives tell Yahoo Sports.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--rockets-will-decline-chandler-parsons--option-making-him-a-restricted-free-agent-022721563-nba.html

ElNono
07-07-2014, 07:23 PM
Hmmm... this one mentions he doesn't matter for cap-space considerations:

Declining Parsons' option would not have an impact on the Rockets' plans to chase another high-profile player this summer. The Rockets are expected to be active in the trade market, looking either to acquire a star -- they have high interest in Kevin Love if the Minnesota Timberwolves decide to trade him -- or to clear salary-cap space to sign one.

Sources told ESPN.com that the Rockets believe they may be able to trade Jeremy Lin and/or Omer Asik in potential deals for a star player or to offload their contracts for salary-cap space.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11029301/houston-rockets-decline-chandler-parsons-option

ElNono
07-07-2014, 07:24 PM
Also, couldn't the Rockets just offer an extension to Parsons earlier? And the only reason they wouldn't do that is so that new salary doesn't count towards the cap?

Mel_13
07-07-2014, 07:29 PM
Also, couldn't the Rockets just offer an extension to Parsons earlier? And the only reason they wouldn't do that is so that new salary doesn't count towards the cap?

Not yet eligible for an extension. Woj makes mistakes on salary cap stuff. This was about preserving Parsons as an asset by avoiding unrestricted free agency next summer.

ElNono
07-07-2014, 07:30 PM
Not yet eligible for an extension. Woj makes mistakes on salary cap stuff. This was about preserving Parsons as an asset by avoiding unrestricted free agency next summer.

ok, I see he's a $1.7m cap hold on Sham. Only $960k if they picked up the option. djohn2oo8 was right it's not capspace related.

Still don't see how Parsons owes the Rockets anything, tbh. If anything, this is the Rockets trying to avoid him becoming a free agent next summer.

djohn2oo8
07-07-2014, 07:33 PM
ok, I see he's a $1.7m cap hold on Sham. Only $960k if they picked up the option. djohn2oo8 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870) was right it's not capspace related.

Still don't see how Parsons owes the Rockets anything, tbh. If anything, this is the Rockets trying to avoid him becoming a free agent next summer.
I think it has to do with Parsons, last summer signed with Dwight's agent, Dan Fegan, which included a wink wink deal. And which got Dwight to the Rockets as well.

Mel_13
07-07-2014, 07:33 PM
Still don't see how Parsons owes the Rockets anything, tbh. If anything, this is the Rockets trying to avoid him becoming a free agent next summer.

Exactly

Clipper Nation
07-27-2014, 07:04 PM
Which is why Parsons probably won't sign anything before they make a move. Probably a wink wink deal between him and Morey.

:lol Funny how quickly you've gone from being desperate to keep Parsons to shitting on him since he joined the Mavs....

djohn2oo8
07-27-2014, 07:05 PM
:lol Funny how quickly you've gone from being desperate to keep Parsons to shitting on him since he joined the Mavs....
Yeah I wanted him back. Not after Ariza signed for half the price.

spurraider21
07-27-2014, 07:17 PM
as i've said before, Ariza at 8 mil is better than Parsons at 15, but you've been shitting on parsons relentlessly since the singings to the point where its just your fanhood talking

djohn2oo8
07-27-2014, 07:26 PM
as i've said before, Ariza at 8 mil is better than Parsons at 15, but you've been shitting on parsons relentlessly since the singings to the point where its just your fanhood talking
Not at all. I post stats to back up what I say about thriving off Dwight and Harden double team and why he isn't worth 15 mill. That's facts, has nothing to do with fanhood. The way he handled the situation, with the tweets and his brother's tweets etc, You can argue it, I just do not like people in general addressing problems at all through social media. Nor running your mouth if you can't back it up.

Bulaien999
07-27-2014, 11:55 PM
Can't wait until the season begins.

hater
07-28-2014, 12:17 AM
Chanandler is obviously an upgrade over their shitbags but he ain't no alltar or even a 3rd banana of a contender.