Gordon Hayward Agrees to "Major" Offer Sheet with Hornets

[BatManu20]

Any chance the Jazz don't match it? Also, what is MJ's affinity with white players tbh.

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[ElNono]

what's the pricetag? IIRC, he was looking for near-max

[Thread]

The Suns lose another one waiting on James. LMAO!!!

Good day tomorrow on the old radio.

[ezau]

lol overpaying for a white boy

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lol overpaying for a white boy

As long as they don't overpay for him here.

Buh, bye.

Ya snooze---Ya lose.

[BatManu20]

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[Chinook]

I called that early last year. It just makes too much sense. The Hornets' moves haven't been perfect, but they should be the third-best team in the East next year.

[spurraider21]

i actually like Hayward... but he's not worth anywhere near the max. i think Hayward is sorta what spurfan is hoping Kyle Anderson becomes tbh

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Charlotte is back!

[Franklin]

Adam Morrison 2.0, imho :lmao

[BatManu20]

I called that early last year. It just makes too much sense. The Hornets' moves haven't been perfect, but they should be the third-best team in the East next year.

If Utah doesn't match, that is. I think they do unless it's some ridiculously lucrative offer, which it may very well be.

[BatManu20]

Adam Morrison 2.0, imho :lmao

Hayward may be overrated but he's 10x the player Morrison ever was in the pros tbh.

[spurraider21]

Adam Morrison 2.0, imho :lmao
what? i don't get it. morrison was a terrible nba player. hayward is a good nba player

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Adam Morrison 2.0, imho :lmao

??

[Chinook]

If Utah doesn't match, that is. I think they do unless it's some ridiculously lucrative offer, which it may very well be.

Yeah. If Utah matches, they've gone full Denver/Memphis from a few years ago. They'll be a mediocre team with financial issues before they know it. They should try to squeeze an asset or two out of Charlotte, but they should still let him go.

[Franklin]

Both soft white bigs without post game. Hayward may be slightly better but still he ain't worth nothing close to the Max

[TE]

I called that early last year. It just makes too much sense. The Hornets' moves haven't been perfect, but they should be the third-best team in the East next year.
Definitely. They'll be battling Washington, Chicago (w/D'Rose) and Toronto for that third spot imo

[djohn2oo8]

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[TheGoldStandard]

He's a nice piece for Charlotte but Utah will probably overpay to keep him

[TE]

Damn :wow lol

[BatManu20]

Almost $16 mil/per for Hayward. Utah would be dumb to match that.

[BatManu20]

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[Leon Black]

Poor Michael...... greatest NBA player ever but can't make a good personnel decision to save his fucking life.

[Chinook]

Oh, and no way det boi Lance is going to take $44M/5 now.

[TheGoldStandard]

Oh, and no way det boi Lance is going to take $44M/5 now.

Lakers will overpay him

[spurraider21]

he's actually a good fit for Charlotte, but the price tag was a bit high. I wouldn't have given much more than 4/52-56 or something like that, and even that is pushing it

[m>s]

lol overpaying for a white boy
You're probably more overpaid at your $10/hr day labor job, shitskin.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

:lol over paying for a white player

[m>s]

:lol over paying for a white player
:lol being a shitskin

[ezau]

You're probably more overpaid at your $10/hr day labor job, shitskin.

So salty:lol

[ElNono]

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smh... white guard that can't shoot... but once Meeks got that deal, you could tell desperate teams would throw stupid money per par...

[m>s]

So salty:lol

so shitty

on the day of the rope will you take it like a man or start begging and crying?

[ElNono]

Yeah. If Utah matches, they've gone full Denver/Memphis from a few years ago. They'll be a mediocre team with financial issues before they know it. They should try to squeeze an asset or two out of Charlotte, but they should still let him go.

They will match. Then we're going to keep hearing about det core for the next 3-4 years...

[ezau]

so shitty

your life? of course. :lol

[m>s]

your life? of course. :lol
Your wife? Dead of course

[m>s]

Oh and Hayward sucks he's terribly inefficient. Deserves about 8 mil per year IMHO

[ezau]

Your wife? Dead of course

:lmao 2014 non-champion trying to be cute. You could fuck my wife's dead corpse anytime, son:toast

[m>s]

No thanks faggot i come from a first world country where this sort of thing is degenerate. You'd probably resort to cannibalizing her if a drought destroyed the bean crop this year though.

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They will match. Then we're going to keep hearing about det core for the next 3-4 years...

They're compelled. They've nary other choice.

[ezau]

No thanks faggot i come from a first world country where this sort of thing is degenerate. You'd probably resort to cannibalizing her if a drought destroyed the bean crop this year though.

:lmao So angry. Are you ok bro? You should smell the roses and see the sunshine next time.

[m>s]

Do you still bring your wife roses or are you too poor?

you know I never found the wife shtick to be in good taste but you're a literal piece of brown fucking doo doo. Ain't no amount of roses going to cover that smell up.

[BatManu20]

There you have it. Hayward staying in Utah. Really dumb move imo.

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[Franklin]

:lmao

[Franklin]

offering Max just to keep an upgraded Luke Walton :lmao it makes sense for Utah though, that's a racist state where whites normally get overpaid.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Lmao dumbass mormons over paying for a soft white pussie

[Franklin]

Hayward gets overpaid, yes, but still overpaying a white pussy ain't as bad as paying anything at all for a black dick covered by shitskin tbh.

[m>s]

Lmao dumbass mormons over paying for a soft white pussie
N!gg3r

[IrisHockey]

Do you still bring your wife roses or are you too poor?

you know I never found the wife shtick to be in good taste but you're a literal piece of brown fucking doo doo. Ain't no amount of roses going to cover that smell up.

Damn, you're one mean mofo.. :lol noooooo mercy

[ezau]

Do you still bring your wife roses or are you too poor?

you know I never found the wife shtick to be in good taste but you're a literal piece of brown fucking doo doo. Ain't no amount of roses going to cover that smell up.

You could still fuck her corpse if you want to. Just PM me, brah and we could arrange something. :lol

[100%duncan]

Wow wow wow. All that for a scrub.

[TDMVPDPOY]

1 of the worse decisions jordan has ever made, wheres that pic of the fat girl?

[8FOR!3]

Got to be a great day for Gordon Hayward lol, above average but not great player getting fought over for the max contract.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Do you still bring your wife roses or are you too poor?

you know I never found the wife shtick to be in good taste but you're a literal piece of brown fucking doo doo. Ain't no amount of roses going to cover that smell up.
Nothing against ezau, but this is just too freaking cold. :lol

[ezau]

Nothing against ezau (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=15121), but this is just too freaking cold. :lol

Cold as my dead wife's corpse, tbh. :lol

[Chinook]

Max, trade kicker (I imagine for the full 15 percent) and a player option. The Hornets bent over for Hayward. Good fit or not, it's actually kind of disturbing.

If Gordon signs this deal and gets traded in his first season (like Nene was by Denver a few years ago), his contract would jump to $72M/4. For Gordon Freakin' Hayward. Spurs better have Kawhi locked up before he gets to speak with anyone else.

[spurraider21]

Max, trade kicker (I imagine for the full 15 percent) and a player option. The Hornets bent over for Hayward. Good fit or not, it's actually kind of disturbing.

If Gordon signs this deal and gets traded in his first season (like Nene was by Denver a few years ago), his contract would jump to $72M/4. For Gordon Freakin' Hayward. Spurs better have Kawhi locked up before he gets to speak with anyone else.
if you're charlotte's GM, whats the most you would have offered for hayward (ignoring that utah would match anyway)

[whitemamba]

i really like this guys game tbh, but i wouldnt give him that kind of cash.

[spurraider21]

i really like this guys game tbh, but i wouldnt give him that kind of cash.
agreed. that kind of money says they think he can be their #1 or #2 player... i hope they're not planning on competing :lol

[whitemamba]

agreed. that kind of money says they think he can be their #1 or #2 player... i hope they're not planning on competing :lol

well i can see him being a number 2 on a first round playoff team, but nothing more. Even still is a 2nd banana worth that cash?

[spurraider21]

well i can see him being a number 2 on a first round playoff team, but nothing more. Even still is a 2nd banana worth that cash?
a 2nd banana getting 15-16 mil isn't preposterous, but he better be a damn good 2nd banana. you figure your top 2 guys combine for about 35 or so, and use the remaining roughly 30 mil to fill out the rest

[Chinook]

if you're charlotte's GM, whats the most you would have offered for hayward (ignoring that utah would match anyway)

$50M/4. Maybe add another $5 Million in incentives.

[whitemamba]

a 2nd banana getting 15-16 mil isn't preposterous, but he better be a damn good 2nd banana. you figure your top 2 guys combine for about 35 or so, and use the remaining roughly 30 mil to fill out the rest

if he goes there, i actually like that roster tbh, big al, kemba, MKG, and Nealwithit, they could make some noise in the east.

[KL2]

I don't think I've ever seen this guy play well against the Spurs EVER, in fact I've never seen him play well at all. Seems like he's only getting the attention because he's white, pretty sure it was just Phoenix and Utah that wanted him, no? Perfect cities to market him.

[Chinook]

Max, trade kicker (I imagine for the full 15 percent) and a player option. The Hornets bent over for Hayward. Good fit or not, it's actually kind of disturbing.

If Gordon signs this deal and gets traded in his first season (like Nene was by Denver a few years ago), his contract would jump to $72M/4. For Gordon Freakin' Hayward. Spurs better have Kawhi locked up before he gets to speak with anyone else.

Well, I guess the kicker wouldn't be that bad, since his salary can't go above his max bracket. That means he'd see no increase his first season, at best a minute one in his second and small to moderate increases in his final two years (at best). Unless the cap jumps up wildly, in which case, yeah, Gordon's getting stacks on stacks.

[spurraider21]

Well, I guess the kicker wouldn't be that bad, since his salary can't go above his max bracket. That means he'd see no increase his first season, at best a minute one in his second and small to moderate increases in his final two years (at best). Unless the cap jumps up wildly, in which case, yeah, Gordon's getting stacks on stacks.
if Hayward performs well, Charlotte wouldn't look to trade him anyway, and if he disappoints, he'd be difficult to unload given the contract. i wouldn't sweat it too much

[Chinook]

if Hayward performs well, Charlotte wouldn't look to trade him anyway, and if he disappoints, he'd be difficult to unload given the contract. i wouldn't sweat it too much

It's more if the Jazz try to trade after matching. Hayward would have a de-facto no-trade clause for next season, but with his consent, they could move him after January 15. But you're right, it's nothing to worry about.

[Raven]

very good power move from charlotte.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

The Spurs have Diaw, Green and Mills for the same price as Hayward. That's 3 NBA championship level role players vs a player whose career playoff stats read as: FG% .182, 3P% .083.

[Mel_13]

very good power move from charlotte.

How so? What have they accomplished except for making 15M of cap space unusable for 72 hours?

[Mal]

Charlotte is desperate, Hayward is being overpaid, but it`s good move from Charlotte. 4 yrs isnt that long time, and Charlotte needs something more than sweep in 1st round.

It was him, overpaid Lance Stephenson or trade for some washed up, overpaid SG/SF like Evans or Gordon.

[Chinook]

I'd take Evans for $32M/3 rather than Hayward on the max. I wouldn't even think about it.

[Raven]

How so? What have they accomplished except for making 15M of cap space unusable for 72 hours?

making teams overpay for their players is always a sound tactic tbh.

[Mel_13]

making teams overpay for their players is always a sound tactic tbh.

Maybe if you're talking Dallas and San Antonio, not when you're talking Charlotte and Utah. At best, this is a tactic to make the fan base believe that you're trying.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

making teams overpay for their players is always a sound tactic tbh.

Why would Charlotte care about Utah? Ping balls competition perhaps?

The most stupid part of all this is that Utah will match and will regret it halfway through the first season. This is so Eric Gordon style stupid.

[Chinook]

Why would Charlotte care about Utah? Ping balls competition perhaps?

Jordan punking the Jazz once more.

[Raven]

Why would Charlotte care about Utah? Ping balls competition perhaps?

The most stupid part of all this is that Utah will match and will regret it halfway through the first season. This is so Eric Gordon style stupid.

Why not? utah has 10 players and under 30M in cap used, so as a gm i don't see a reason to allow cheap resignings from other teams

[Raven]

Maybe if you're talking Dallas and San Antonio, not when you're talking Charlotte and Utah. At best, this is a tactic to make the fan base believe that you're trying.

dallas has more in common with utah than with the spurs

[Mel_13]

dallas has more in common with utah than with the spurs

And how does that help your "Charlotte made a power move by making Utah overpay" argument?

[Purch]

Please don't match it

[~O~]

This was a essay prediction since it was already gathered that soeone would overpay him mid way through the season.

[baseline bum]

Shouldn't a max offer be 4 years, $68 million?

[baseline bum]

LOL at people upstairs thinking it won't take a max contract to sign Leonard next summer.

[Killakobe81]

LOL at people upstairs thinking it won't take a max contract to sign Leonard next summer.

Who cares? everyone else on team below market value ...pay him whatever it takes overpay if need be.

[djohn2oo8]

Parsons gon get PAID

[Killakobe81]

Parsons gon get PAID

Him too. Hayward is the better defender, but I would rather have chandler.

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LOL at people upstairs thinking it won't take a max contract to sign Leonard next summer.

Though he does have some tard in him. Lucky bastards. Could make the difference.

[DPG21920]

Well, I guess the kicker wouldn't be that bad, since his salary can't go above his max bracket. That means he'd see no increase his first season, at best a minute one in his second and small to moderate increases in his final two years (at best). Unless the cap jumps up wildly, in which case, yeah, Gordon's getting stacks on stacks.

Well, like Kawhi, unless he is willing to take less than max from his current team, letting him sign a 4 year max deal with 4.5% raises elsewhere is still cheaper than a 5 year deal with 7.5% raises with his current team.

[Trill Clinton]

wow

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[Raven]

And how does that help your "Charlotte made a power move by making Utah overpay" argument?

it doesn't, i just like to talk shit on dem ponies tbh

[TDMVPDPOY]

the charlotte hornets are under the cap right?

i see what mj is doing here, t hrowing max offers at teams who are close or already close to the cap with FA forcing them to overpay to re-sign players...so it pushes the team over the lux tax to pay more tax revenue

while mj collects them

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Maybe if you're talking Dallas and San Antonio, not when you're talking Charlotte and Utah. At best, this is a tactic to make the fan base believe that you're trying.

Don't blame the Hornets for doing so. If I were a gm 10-12 mil would be the top range I would pay Hayward. But considering his age and his production and the lack of quality young wing player this FA, its no surprise he got this contract.

I already said Parson was going to get a 15mil a year deal from someone as well. His stats are almost the same as Hayward's. This is what happens when when a team doesn't draft well or develop players. They're left overpaying to get quality players.

As Spurs fans, where so use to players being paid their actual or below their value, it would seem like heresy to offer a player this sort of contract. RJ anyone.

[hooperflash]

Adam Morrison 2.0, imho :lmao

GH is a solid starter on a poor team and a nice back up on a contender.

[DPG21920]

Lance Stephenson's agent should fire Lance. What an idiot this guy was to do what he did. He will make some money, but it seems like a great possibility he cost himself millions for being a dummy.

[Mel_13]

Don't blame the Hornets for doing so.

I didn't. I took issue with characterizing the offer as a power move.

[Mel_13]

Lance Stephenson's agent should fire Lance.

:lol

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I didn't. I took issue with characterizing the offer as a power move.

I know, but its a desperate move, not a power move. Agreeing with you on that point.

[Jodelo]

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[DPG21920]

Saving CHA from themselves.

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Saving CHA from themselves.

He ain't herePERIOD

[ElNono]

:lol jazz